actually chaku. she does know what shes talking about. from obama's own lips. he said that his new health care plan WILL indeed make it mandatory for you to purchase health care insurance or you WILL be fined by the government. try and pay more attention.
Its not mandatory, you ignorant cunt. Didn't you hear? Its an option to take up the gov't sponsored healthcare, should you be unable to afford one or don't want the other available ones. Medicare and medicaid are for seniors and for those with low income.
End of life care? Where do you get your propaganda?
no, coming from obamas own lips. it WILL be mandatory border hopper. you will either buy health insurance or be FINED (not taxed) by the government if you don't. and yeah. i did hear you idiot. i heard from obama's mouth. so, no going around that. you should really try and educate yourself more.
Dude, you totally misinterpreted what I said. I said that it is not mandatory for you to take the GOVERNMENT SPONSERED HEALTHCARE. I didn't say you could go without health insurance. An OPTION SHOULD YOU BE UNABLE TO AFFORD ONE OR DON'T WANT THE OTHER AVAILABLE ONES. Medicare is there for those with low income, those with middle class income can afford other insurances, and upper class get the best coverage because they can afford it. I didn't say you wouldn't be fined for not having HCI.
Unconstitutional? Do these people even think or have a brain? Most states require you to have auto insurance? What is the difference? Fine don't have health care insurance. Cut a finger off and bleed to death cause you don't have health care. See if the rest of us care. One less moron that we have to worry about. Think people!
That's not the point. With auto insurance, when you operate a vehicle and you get into an accident, you hurt yourself as well as the driver/passengers in the other car. When you decide not to have health coverage, you end up with a big bill that you have to pay for or your credit gets wrecked. By law hospitals and clinics cannot refuse to treat anyone regardless of coverage (or not).
smh..rome wasn't built in a day..so y rush on things that are bigger than what we really think they are..Obama is trying..that is what he's suppose to do..he's not here to snap his fingers and shit is ok..nah..it's gonna be a long process b4 things really start changing. it would help alot if the people in America started changing too and no..you wont be labeled as "sheep" just for really wanting to do the right thing
Any day know? You mean now? I am fucking sick of the ill educated bastards trying to debate rationally and civilly. The same bastards that every educated wealthy man makes their money off of by keeping ignorant. Get a fucking education you red neck.
God I hate Obama, he can't even keep the promises he made during his campaign, he has already failed multiple times to fulfill those promises. In the constitution it says that if the government stops serving the people that we are to revolt against the government. Well with Obama in office the revolting should be happening any day know.
Any day know? You mean now? I am fucking sick of the ill educated bastards trying to debate rationally and civilly. The same bastards that every educated wealthy man makes their money off of by keeping ignorant. Get a fucking education you red neck.
It is never "too late" for anything good ... anything that is of real value ... to know who you are and just be yourself ...and thats what this is all about ...Americans being Americans!
I chuckled, she went on to say "it's unconstitutional to the government to step in and take over our medicare..er health insurance..."
If this is true, then lets just take away medicare, see how much shit that stirs, anyway.
Universal healthcare is actually a good idea, if people had gone on to read the bill, they'd realize that you're allowed to have private healthcare also; which basically means that f you feel like you're getting fucked over cuz now ...word limit.
Anyone who is still confused about the public option may find the information in the comment section of my profile helpful. I have several resources including a link to the ez to read version of the bill and so much more. You will also find several ways in which you can become more involved. Thank you.
please make the government stop taking my tax dollars for fire, police, paramedics and water dilivery and protection - this women should be able to afford her own insurance for those services.
We don't need the government in there we can negotiate with private fire, police, ambulance insurance companies and their departments ourselves or with our lawyers -
If her house burns down why should I have to pay for guys to put ir out? Let the market decide.
If there is no government tax dollars to fuel police, fire department, and paramedics, many more would be dead, much more property destroyed, and crime would be a horrendous problem.
As for insurance, if no government steps in, insurance companies can make insurance cost however much they want, and no matter what, people will pay for it. There are no private fire fighting companies, and there never will be...
Sort of. We all know that private healthcare prices are basically whatever the company wants them to be, and if these government ran jobs become private, they'll have to be ran with someones money. That money will come from the people paying for the service. Since the government wont control it, the company would be free to charge whatever huge price they want. With government control, the price never moves. because it's always coming out of your taxes.
you're sort of right and your sort of wrong and I'm guessing you didn't get that my first post was actually sarcasm
BTW- We are the government - we decide the prices because we are also reguklator thought the power of our elected officials - just right now corporations are holding court in the Obama admin and congress with bribes - it might not be as bad as the GOP and Bush, but pretty darn close
my reaction was to this plumpish women who wants the Gov to stay out of her beeswax - I want her to pay for her own fire, police, et al protection and keep completely government out
that said, as a private insurance company I wouldn't cover this women, but if I did I would certainly charge her more than she looks like she can afford - too old and fat and those glasses scream bad DNA - I'd lock her kids out too.
Really? So even if 90+% opposed the stimulus plan, it became law nevertheless ..and that too after the bill was defeated once in Congress ...
and then that bald treasury guy had to threaten us publicly "Pass this bill or else ..." resembling a mafia boss ... and yet we think we are the government?!
We the people are only part of a circus show now!
But we need to take that back ... America is a republic!
It should bank bailout plan and not the stimulus plan ... it was more than 55 for stimulus plan...actually thanks for raising this up because this helps prove my current point even further
My senator Dianne Feinstein(BTW a Dem) spoke in the House that she received 91K phone calls last Sep over stimulus plan of which 85+ K were agianst the stimulus plan...and that is more than 90% against the bank bailout plan
The plan was defeated in the first voting in Congress ..then the baldy treasury mafia boss had to threaten publicly the whole country "Pass this or else ..." and Cngress had to meet "secretively" for the 3rd time in Us history ..God only knows what happened there! ..and voila! it passed the second time
The point of discussion is that are the ppl in govt really representing us ...the way I see it they are NOT!
Actually that is a very good idea ... seriously...
the market place will be give us a much better service ...and at the end of the year we can negotiate with a provider who just can take away 25% off my bill ... hmmm ..ain't that a good idea?!
10% off on water bill ...good
25% off on fire and police.. super
Not to pay state tax and deal with corrupt politicians ... priceless!
you forgot all those pre-existing conditions before your house went up in flames and the fact that your daughter was raped because you were late with your police protection payment because you were too busy in court tracing the source of the toxins in your water that poisoned your mother.
not to mention all the fine print in the contracts you'll have to pay a lawyer to explain where you went wrong, but you won't be able to afford the lawyer because
you'll be in court all day hoping the judge hasn't been paid off by the guys who poisoned your water and at night you won't have a place to sleep because you failed to report that you had a bbq in your backyard a few weeks back and you'll be grieving over your daughters suicide because you couldn't afford insurance to cover the therapy and hospital bills after she was brutally raped
Hope you enjoy your government free and tax free society
There you go again ... fighting just creates enemies ... not sure we will go anywhere creating enemies out of each other
There is a big difference in fighting vs protecting ... I (and the majority of Americans on this isue) are just protecting the essential nature of US ... keeping the govt. out of our private lives ...
History, time and again, has shown that govt is not the most efficient entity in managing stuff (e.g. Medicare, Soc sec,etc)
So what you are telling me lady? You want Medicare to go away" -- since you don't want any gov in healthcare. Why are you so against the government to providing healthcare to Vets? since that is completely run by the gov. What part of O-P-T-I-O-N do you not understand? Somebody needs a dictionary. What rock are you living under? How many times have these half wits got to be told?
Yeah ... an option ..but only for the first 5 years...after that if the private insutrance does not match the highly subsidized/deficit finaced/heavily taxed "public" option they are out the door ... thats not an option ...
Obama is a vile anti-capitalist marxist, intent on destroying free enterprise. He should be thrown in jail.
notbestfriends 2 years ago
Obama sucks
TrueSouthernPride 2 years ago
lady, u dont know whatya talking abt!, sorry!
chakuwamba 2 years ago
actually chaku. she does know what shes talking about. from obama's own lips. he said that his new health care plan WILL indeed make it mandatory for you to purchase health care insurance or you WILL be fined by the government. try and pay more attention.
epicent 2 years ago
I am sorry dear lady, you did not hear (or understand??) anything that was said. I urge u to listen once more.
chakuwamba 2 years ago
Its not mandatory, you ignorant cunt. Didn't you hear? Its an option to take up the gov't sponsored healthcare, should you be unable to afford one or don't want the other available ones. Medicare and medicaid are for seniors and for those with low income.
End of life care? Where do you get your propaganda?
borderhopper827 2 years ago
Actually health insurance will be mandatory under penalty of extra tax. You should listen to what president Obama said.
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
no, coming from obamas own lips. it WILL be mandatory border hopper. you will either buy health insurance or be FINED (not taxed) by the government if you don't. and yeah. i did hear you idiot. i heard from obama's mouth. so, no going around that. you should really try and educate yourself more.
epicent 2 years ago
Dude, you totally misinterpreted what I said. I said that it is not mandatory for you to take the GOVERNMENT SPONSERED HEALTHCARE. I didn't say you could go without health insurance. An OPTION SHOULD YOU BE UNABLE TO AFFORD ONE OR DON'T WANT THE OTHER AVAILABLE ONES. Medicare is there for those with low income, those with middle class income can afford other insurances, and upper class get the best coverage because they can afford it. I didn't say you wouldn't be fined for not having HCI.
borderhopper827 2 years ago
yes, you should too.
the GOP plan also pushed for those fines and bigger ones, too. The fines won't start for years and years and even then, they're minor.
m2cmstudios 2 years ago
Unconstitutional? Do these people even think or have a brain? Most states require you to have auto insurance? What is the difference? Fine don't have health care insurance. Cut a finger off and bleed to death cause you don't have health care. See if the rest of us care. One less moron that we have to worry about. Think people!
MajikMyst1 2 years ago
That's not the point. With auto insurance, when you operate a vehicle and you get into an accident, you hurt yourself as well as the driver/passengers in the other car. When you decide not to have health coverage, you end up with a big bill that you have to pay for or your credit gets wrecked. By law hospitals and clinics cannot refuse to treat anyone regardless of coverage (or not).
tmf1977 2 years ago
smh..rome wasn't built in a day..so y rush on things that are bigger than what we really think they are..Obama is trying..that is what he's suppose to do..he's not here to snap his fingers and shit is ok..nah..it's gonna be a long process b4 things really start changing. it would help alot if the people in America started changing too and no..you wont be labeled as "sheep" just for really wanting to do the right thing
dwright0228 2 years ago
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Any day know? You mean now? I am fucking sick of the ill educated bastards trying to debate rationally and civilly. The same bastards that every educated wealthy man makes their money off of by keeping ignorant. Get a fucking education you red neck.
6enlighten9 2 years ago
God I hate Obama, he can't even keep the promises he made during his campaign, he has already failed multiple times to fulfill those promises. In the constitution it says that if the government stops serving the people that we are to revolt against the government. Well with Obama in office the revolting should be happening any day know.
grim967 2 years ago
Any day know? You mean now? I am fucking sick of the ill educated bastards trying to debate rationally and civilly. The same bastards that every educated wealthy man makes their money off of by keeping ignorant. Get a fucking education you red neck.
6enlighten9 2 years ago
lmao , okay buddy . its alot better then bush .
stop whining .
elizabeth12313 2 years ago
What is better? What is different?
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
her question is the first answer that Obama offers when the issue comes up.
sr038 2 years ago
It is never "too late" for anything good ... anything that is of real value ... to know who you are and just be yourself ...and thats what this is all about ...Americans being Americans!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
I chuckled, she went on to say "it's unconstitutional to the government to step in and take over our medicare..er health insurance..."
If this is true, then lets just take away medicare, see how much shit that stirs, anyway.
Universal healthcare is actually a good idea, if people had gone on to read the bill, they'd realize that you're allowed to have private healthcare also; which basically means that f you feel like you're getting fucked over cuz now ...word limit.
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louis12346 2 years ago
please make the government stop taking my tax dollars for fire, police, paramedics and water dilivery and protection - this women should be able to afford her own insurance for those services.
We don't need the government in there we can negotiate with private fire, police, ambulance insurance companies and their departments ourselves or with our lawyers -
If her house burns down why should I have to pay for guys to put ir out? Let the market decide.
marniespeaks 2 years ago
If there is no government tax dollars to fuel police, fire department, and paramedics, many more would be dead, much more property destroyed, and crime would be a horrendous problem.
As for insurance, if no government steps in, insurance companies can make insurance cost however much they want, and no matter what, people will pay for it. There are no private fire fighting companies, and there never will be...
Rpkist77 2 years ago
are you saying these services the government provides through tax payer money wold end up kinda like private health care?
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Sort of. We all know that private healthcare prices are basically whatever the company wants them to be, and if these government ran jobs become private, they'll have to be ran with someones money. That money will come from the people paying for the service. Since the government wont control it, the company would be free to charge whatever huge price they want. With government control, the price never moves. because it's always coming out of your taxes.
Rpkist77 2 years ago
you're sort of right and your sort of wrong and I'm guessing you didn't get that my first post was actually sarcasm
BTW- We are the government - we decide the prices because we are also reguklator thought the power of our elected officials - just right now corporations are holding court in the Obama admin and congress with bribes - it might not be as bad as the GOP and Bush, but pretty darn close
marniespeaks 2 years ago
my reaction was to this plumpish women who wants the Gov to stay out of her beeswax - I want her to pay for her own fire, police, et al protection and keep completely government out
that said, as a private insurance company I wouldn't cover this women, but if I did I would certainly charge her more than she looks like she can afford - too old and fat and those glasses scream bad DNA - I'd lock her kids out too.
marniespeaks 2 years ago
"We are the government"
Really? So even if 90+% opposed the stimulus plan, it became law nevertheless ..and that too after the bill was defeated once in Congress ...
and then that bald treasury guy had to threaten us publicly "Pass this bill or else ..." resembling a mafia boss ... and yet we think we are the government?!
We the people are only part of a circus show now!
But we need to take that back ... America is a republic!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
90% didn't oppose it, though?
Leoncharlesblanc 2 years ago
It should bank bailout plan and not the stimulus plan ... it was more than 55 for stimulus plan...actually thanks for raising this up because this helps prove my current point even further
My senator Dianne Feinstein(BTW a Dem) spoke in the House that she received 91K phone calls last Sep over stimulus plan of which 85+ K were agianst the stimulus plan...and that is more than 90% against the bank bailout plan
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
Gratz. THat's one senator out of 100.
Leoncharlesblanc 2 years ago
The plan was defeated in the first voting in Congress ..then the baldy treasury mafia boss had to threaten publicly the whole country "Pass this or else ..." and Cngress had to meet "secretively" for the 3rd time in Us history ..God only knows what happened there! ..and voila! it passed the second time
The point of discussion is that are the ppl in govt really representing us ...the way I see it they are NOT!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
It's obvious you don't even know what a republic is.
StewieSwan 2 years ago
Only if you knew and your ilk could!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
What are you even talking about?
StewieSwan 2 years ago
Actually that is a very good idea ... seriously...
the market place will be give us a much better service ...and at the end of the year we can negotiate with a provider who just can take away 25% off my bill ... hmmm ..ain't that a good idea?!
10% off on water bill ...good
25% off on fire and police.. super
Not to pay state tax and deal with corrupt politicians ... priceless!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
you forgot all those pre-existing conditions before your house went up in flames and the fact that your daughter was raped because you were late with your police protection payment because you were too busy in court tracing the source of the toxins in your water that poisoned your mother.
not to mention all the fine print in the contracts you'll have to pay a lawyer to explain where you went wrong, but you won't be able to afford the lawyer because
marniespeaks 2 years ago
you'll be in court all day hoping the judge hasn't been paid off by the guys who poisoned your water and at night you won't have a place to sleep because you failed to report that you had a bbq in your backyard a few weeks back and you'll be grieving over your daughters suicide because you couldn't afford insurance to cover the therapy and hospital bills after she was brutally raped
Hope you enjoy your government free and tax free society
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Are you sure you live in US?
yes, we are not a perfect society yet ... but apparently we are the best country in the world ...
Not that weird stuff do not happen but we have been blessed enough
You get what you speak!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
no, you get what you fight for when you practice your civic duty
marniespeaks 2 years ago
"you get what you fight for"
There you go again ... fighting just creates enemies ... not sure we will go anywhere creating enemies out of each other
There is a big difference in fighting vs protecting ... I (and the majority of Americans on this isue) are just protecting the essential nature of US ... keeping the govt. out of our private lives ...
History, time and again, has shown that govt is not the most efficient entity in managing stuff (e.g. Medicare, Soc sec,etc)
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
too late
marniespeaks 2 years ago
So what you are telling me lady? You want Medicare to go away" -- since you don't want any gov in healthcare. Why are you so against the government to providing healthcare to Vets? since that is completely run by the gov. What part of O-P-T-I-O-N do you not understand? Somebody needs a dictionary. What rock are you living under? How many times have these half wits got to be told?
HowAbout1000 2 years ago
Spare the hyperbole!
Medicare is broke and will not be there for long ... so why kill something that is already dead?!
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago 2
It is a option not mandatory
imaginepeace63 2 years ago
Yeah ... an option ..but only for the first 5 years...after that if the private insutrance does not match the highly subsidized/deficit finaced/heavily taxed "public" option they are out the door ... thats not an option ...
LORDOFWARS8 2 years ago
You keep showing the questions or concerns.... but where is the information to address these concerns.
IcyKitty 2 years ago
CSPAN never offers views but has the bills and other information on their front page.
Boomer1949 2 years ago