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  • Actually, Subaru's symetrical AWD is a better balanced 4 wheel drive system than the Audi Quattro system. I have had 5 Subaru's of varying degree's of 'hotness' - all were fantastic for the money. But... Scoobies are not as sexy as Audi's. Group B was awesome in the flesh (nothing on the planet sounds as good as a Sport Quattro at full chat) and way better than what came after it. Grp B was F1 on dirt.... Check the video of Walter Rorhl driving the Sport Quattro... now THAT is rally driving.

  • group b was the best rally cars all rally after that just sucks

  • audi won and audi is the best audi was the first to make awd in rally

  • I drive a subaru and il stick to my subaru rather then a mexican piece of shit.. Since nowadays most "german" made cars are made in Mexico..

  • Holy cow. People are entitled to their opinions!

  • i own a subaru legacy '95, 2.0 flat, awd of course and i went off-road a lil bit.

    together with some friends. a honda c-rv and a audi 100 quattro '94, 2.x .

    and mine subaru was the best 4x4. c-rv was the weakest.

  • @damireagle audi should give you a medal. you have to understand that there are people who like subaru and people who don't :)). get a life, would you? audi is a good car, but the price is too high. why spend money on lamborgini,porsche , ferrari, r8 when with a 1/5 amount(or less) of money you can buy a subaru and do the same thing. but you have 4 doors/seats and the trunk.

  • @cecenoo ok so you really are fucking retarded arent you. You try to say why buy a lamborghini or ferrari when you can get a subaru for 1/5 the price that does the same thing? Am I the only sane person here? SINCE WHEN THE FUCK does a subaru do ANYTHING even fucking CLOSE to what a lamborghini can. What the fuck is wrong with you lol. Unplug your fucking modem and go huff some more gas moron

  • @bharvey2010 you have to search impreza vs ferrari, impreza vs lamborghini, impreza vs r8 and you will notice that on drag (1/4 mile) impreza rocks! and i also whant to share with you that i whant to make you my women and to burn all your family and friends! this are discutions, you dont have to swear, watch your behavior punk!

  • @cecenoo You are right, i dont have to swear. But i was so taken back by the stupidity of your comment, I couldnt help myself =]

    You can say impreza's rock all they want, but dont try to put them in the same catagory as real cars.. Come on now, lets be resonable 

  • @bharvey2010 ok, if you are talking about being resonable, can you afford a "real car"? i don't really know, becouse i dont know you, if a knew you, you couldn't type anymore. it's shame to spend 150 k on a "real car", who doesn't go rally(a bit of off-road), becose is 7 cm/3 inch high (overrated). that real car "eat" 30 litters on k, impreza only 15 (~4 gallons). and impreza does 285 hp stock. i mean is a good piece of car for how much costs!!

  • @bharvey2010 do you know that subaru has probably the best AWD? and that they have boxer engines? and the gravity center is very low. and every single model has AWD. Symetrical awd (see here what i mean /watch?v=ooQRxlChvMw). do some digging/research!

  • @cecenoo I would really disagree with you saying subaru has better awd. Quattro is used in super cars and LMP1 race cars (Audi R15). The credentials behind it is a little more prestigious if you ask me. As for ride height, if you knew my style, you would know I like audi's on coil overs. LOW coilovers. If you are familiar with Euro look, you'll kno what i mean, so dont try to tell me subaru's are low haha. Anyway, im not trying to be an asshole here. I was just commenting on the vid

  • There may have been other AWD cars to hit the market before Audi's. But there were not Rally Racing cars with AWD before them, they pioneered it. and as the leone may have been awd, its not the awd they market today. where as audi, hasnt changed, only improved. jus like mazda got banned for the 787b, audi was "asked nicely" to resign because of their performances. and it wasnt only in rally. look at the IMSA GTO Audi90, Displayed in a segment of Secrets of Speed. They absolutely dominated.

  • SUBARU ROCKS!!!!

  • omg subaru .... :-DDDDD

  • subaru kik audis ass man

  • SUBARU WILL KICK AUDIS GAY EURO ASS ANYDAY LOL, WRX IS WORLD CHAMPION MATE!!!!!!!!

  • I honestly don't know why they drag Subaru's, corners are what they do best, and in the real world they do it better than anything else I've seen.

    Audi does make a nice car, but who can afford it? My My96 sold for $19,990AUD came with AWD, Aircon, and used 7L/100km, They are seriously a different class of car, they are an Audi for those who cannot afford an Audi.

  • japan tuning > all

  • shit subaru got a late start and ate the lead just like taht

  • That scoobie is squeezin' that bottle nasty..

  • subaru had nitro,, if you listen carefully you can hear it

  • Nah, new Quattro is the best. The new sport diff is way better than the previous Quattro systems, which were already damn good.

    And for quallity, the 01E will hold 600+ whp all day. Only weak links seem to be rear diff mounts and drive shafts. But both are fixable, and should be expected when more than trippleing factory out put.

  • as it stands now subaru has the best awd system cause of the wheel bias and power delivery not cause of the quality. ive seen MANY sti's snap drive shafts pushing 500hp for quality(as in what they can handle) i think subaru gets the worst rating.

  • You are extremely intelligent, both of you..

  • well, if i have to chose btw WRX or RS4, im go for RS4. Subaru looks so cheap inside. Both cars are good, but Audi gonna be my opinion.

  • Stop fighting already. Both are nice cars. Both tuned. And if you compare secondhand prices you will see that they cost about the same if the wrx is a couple (2-3) years yonger. Tuning the Audi would be less costly compared to the wrx (or even the STi) to get 500hp I think...Lets be nice to each other :)

  • i find your concept somewhat questionable but i understand what your saying and i think its very ignorant. that same person that bought the s6 could go buy a wrx for 25,000 and spend the rest of the 50,000 to build it up. and guess what, nobody would complain about him doing it because he has the same car that everyone else has. stop hating cars that you cant have or afford. period. ignorance is bliss.

  • lol your right I cant afford it but my dad whose an endodontist could....so if I wanted it I could get it but I'd rather have a performance car that I personally built rather than sound cocky because my dad bought me an overpriced Audi. This vid is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I find it funny how you Audi guys talk shit on a vid where it gets its ass handed to it. Maybe if it were the other way around then I'd be wrong but wrong vid to talk shit on lol I luv u guys

  • thats true. but for one i don't own a audi so i can't speak on behalf of audi owners. but i do own a vw mkv jetta for my daily and a 325es as my project car which is getting a s52 m3 engine swap soon. i can't afford to pay for a expensive audi, bmw, or mercedes but i don't understand why people always bring up the price of the car. its like pulling the racial card or comparing turbo to NA.

  • idk i watched the vid and i did not see the audi getting its ass handed to it lol drop a couple gt28rs turbos in an s4 and it'll beat most sti's and evos that cost way more cuz they need new trannies while the audi keeps on truckin

  • @conor2479

    The audi ko4's (STG 3+) is all you need to whup on the rice. GT28RS....Now your fkn with vipers and lambos and ferraris

  • 03 exactly...with just a little 2.0 engine lol

  • 16year old Audi S/RS2 eat your WRX shit no problem..

  • youre a lost little girl, pathetic idiot.

    you dont even know what cars are, why talk about it? jap crap noob

  • that looks like a 2005 wrx? that audi is a 2000 RS4 (b5) lol

  • THE FUCKING WRX IS DONE UP!

    GET A STOCK WRX VS STOCK RS4

    then we see who wins, fucking jap crap shit

  • amen

  • get a stock lotus and let it race a stock corvette...

    ofc the corvette would win -.-'

  • Stock for stock of course the RS4 wins! At the same time it costs so much more so your argument doesn't add up. The new TT which is at 265 hp costs 40,000 and is the same in HP as the 09 WRX which costs 25,000.....What a joke!

  • sorry you must be fucked in the head now.

    there is a difference in what you are buying,with your stupid comment it just shows how dumb people are,you might be right about the power BUT your buying AN AUDI DUDE!!! the quality the everything...!!! against a piece of shit subaru??? subarus interior has so many faults its not funny. in the end its what you got and how it looks, german vs jap? german wins you idiot fuck,a 2 year old knows that. audi rs6 vs best subaru? lol subaru should quit

  • @damireagle

    Lol your a ignorant fool....lol Subaru's are very reliable.... The STI's interior is not that great but thats for a reason... When you buy a Forester,Legacy,Outback,ect. you get the luxary.... STI is for racing there dude... So shuv that Audi up your ass.

  • @damireagle again with the nonsense remark, i own an s5, beautiful, incredibly stable, but aswell i own an 07 sti, and let me tell you how wrong you are, subarus interior "has so many faults its not funny" youve never been inside an impreza i imagine, much less an sti, their materials and i know, are not even close to the "cheapest you can get" they are quality fabrics, and interior styling, and ever been inside an audi, s5 specifically... WOW thats a big difference -__- diff. styling is ALL.

  • @damireagle ur comment made u look arogant as fuck. the interior has alot of faults. i think last time i checked, the motor runs the fucking car not the interior. and piece of shit subaru...those thing hold better resale and meant for racing. its drag also no shit audi is going to pull. and actually if u knew anything about audis u would know that theres abs module failures all the time with the s4 and guage clusters break.

  • @damireagle also when u blow out the turbo it costs around $6000 to fix it. HIGH MAINTENCE might i add. and subaru sti is a basic turbo. s4...well thats a twin turbo. theres not to mention bypass valve failure, TBB failure, and the F hose is the cheapest material used. cheap ass rubber. theres MAF failure, 1st and 2nd gear failure or problems i should say, intercooler leakage, and i think thats about it. sooo you were saying something about quality.

  • @damireagle i work in a garage i see these problems all the time. only time i see an sti in here is when water injection is messed up or people use cheap gas and blow a motor(but thats rare seen it twice). there are some problems with the ringlands and when people want to mod....they fuck something up by adding different brands which ur not suppose to do.

  • @damireagle SUBARUS SMOKE AUDI, germans r gay too, like hitler (hitlers hair doo was ultra gay)

  • @damireagle i agree, audi owns, scooby sucks dick. Plastic peice of shit.

  • @damireagle Since when Audi has been doing AWD systems in their cars ?

  • Audi used to be in Rally, but they got asked to quit because of the AWD system (QUATTRO) they won everything and were the best.

    then subaru made an awd and ppl think subaru is best awd lol, fucking dicks.(Audi) quattro is the best awd system in the world and the first!

  • nice finally somebody i am on the same page with... audi is the best handling and racing car ever.. I mean mine is beatiful and no other evo or dumbshit 350z crap can stand up to it.

  • u dont get it, mofo, Its stock vs stock he is talking about. Put $5k into the audi,and then.

    I hate people like you.

  • you're a fucking retard... there are tons of stock audi drivelines handling 800+ hp... You really need to get your facts straight. Evo's Awd.... complete shit. the only thing that saves it is the 100,000 control units wired up to it. as for the subaru AWD... It's extremely similar to Quattro... in fact most things subaru does has more in common with VW/Audi/Porsche in my Opinion. But Quattro is definitely better than subaru AWD... even my friends that drive subrarus agree.

  • you know nothing about the cars. "tons of STOCK audi 800+ hp"... omg, go on fuck horses as you used to do it all your shitty life. Audi`s quatro is for day to day life, not for extreme sport as EVO`s and STi`s are. stupid dick :)

  • without Audi Quattro, cars like the EVO and STI never would've existed. Think on that, faggot. And again, Audi Quattro is better than any jap awd shit.

  • but we DO NOT argue about WHO was the first putting AWD in sedan, we argue about whose awd is better NOWerdays. I think it`s EVO`s trany and Acura`s SH_AWD. IMHO.... so dont stop and go on fuck horses. peace :D

  • Lol now I know you're trolling because EVO trannies are complete shit and blow up all the time.

  • if you believe that horseshit, then explain how they are putting 800 horsepower to ALL 4 WHEELS in S4's with STOCK STOCK STOCK STOCK TRANSMISSIONS AND DRIVELINES don't believe me?

    watch?v=zPbBTBqffYA & watch?v=XUuhbFbBElA & watch?v=QQ83qHhXXL0&feature=re­lated

    all you evo and sti fanboys, count your days because quattro was the king and it's retaking it's throne in the AWD world, with a VW engine. go cry and play and traffic elitist, the world needs less elitist pricks anyway

  • yeah you shouldnt talk any more. audi was the first to develope their awd system which was for rally driving then was put into there production cars.

  • ummm? do you know anything about subarus awd or audis awd? the systems are completely different even right down to the wheel bias in the system.

  • @damireagle HAHAHAHA what a piece of shit "Audi used to be in Rally, but they got asked to quit because of the AWD system (QUATTRO) they won everything and were the best." i hate it when gay fanboys like you make piece of shit stories up, just cause your a fanboy, true though audis awd system is incredible, one of the best IF not the best, why am i talking? cause i own an s5 and an 07 sti, PLUS i know about rally history, instead of you making a gay ass story up

  • @willwork4superpowazz

    he didn't make that up. search on youtube "truth behind the blacklist"

  • @damireagle subaru made AWD ....so idk what the hell your talking about. audi won like 4 times. and its actaully not the best. forester has the best drivetrain in the market right now. look in the west. that proves it right there. you see more subarus than audis....y? because mountains, snow, rocks, etc. think before you speak.

  • @damireagle LOL, yeah audi did have the best AWD system........about 20 years ago, things have moved on. Honestly, some people have their heads rammed way too far up their audis tailpipe

  • @damireagle not really, the Quattro didn't come out until 1980, Subaru had the Leone in 1972 with AWD. They weren't even the first, The Jensen FF was the first commercial AWD car, and they made less than 10 of that specific model. There have been many awd cars in motor racing since the early 1900's.

  • @damireagle That is absolutely NOT why they were "asked" to quit. No one was "asked" to quit, Group B was SHUT DOWN due to so many people dying. Everyone was using AWD at that point. Ever hear of the Lancia Delta Integrale? No, I didn't think you would have.

    Who cares if quattro is the best, half the Audi's out of the factory are Haldex now anyway.

  • @damireagle

    it's first but not the best at the moment...nissans ATTESA and mitsubishi's awd system are more advanced. quattro is more left for comfort now...

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  • @damireagle Lets take them both now to a rally circuit and you'll see audi has nothing on the STI and EVO so get over yourself and shut the fuck up. I'll smoke you with my STI all day long bitch

  • first of all that is not an audi tt and second the tt woudl when its half the wheight and space craft alluminim frame u get what u pay for

  • wrx

  • EWG + High RPM + Flat 4 = New pair of pants.

  • AUDI RS4 Kicks ass!

  • I share your enthusiasm but i feel it didnt really 'kick as' on this occasion.

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