But I am glad you can admit that the sexuality of the pedo isnt based on something other than homosexual (inc Bi-sexual or Straight), because that proves that men who may be married to a woman yet molest boys are infact GAY not straight. Hehehe. We are winning this agrument, yay for the straight guys.
Due to 98% of societies males being hetro a higher incidence of pedophilia is expected, but statistically a faggot is 7.5 times more likely to be a pedophile than a hetro, as pedophilia is a part of the gay culture and history and literature. Of all pedophiles 40% actually identify as Homosexuals. And offend at a higher frequency than hetro pedo's.
it's been awhile since I have commented on this page. And after a year it's still the same ole arguments. You got the Christians waving their bibles and the pro homosexual marriage trying to pull the prejudice card to win an argument.
@AverageRidesAgain According to the World Health Organization, AIDS is primarily a heterosexual disease worldwide, with 80-90 percent of infections being due to heterosexual disgusting sex!
@patssoxity - LOL! look at these cretinous morons arguing it is a 'rights' issue. A) Marriage is not in the Bill Of Rights. B) The Loving court was not talking about gay marriage when it declared marriage as a right since it dismissed Baker. C) Even the EU court found no violation of human rights
I suspect they cannot 'think-outside-the-box' or they're just willfully ignorant of how world govt's operate.
@SmashtheCmachine - And it wouldn't matter if that were the objective for someone to get married; it's there perogative. But I understand the point and agree.
I don't understand how this is still an issue. Civil Unions give same sex couples the rights of Married couples. However marriage was an institution created by the church, it is in no way a right. It was intended and written down to be between a man and a woman.
Give equality. Gay couples should have the same rights and benefits as married couples, they should be in a civil union, but they don't have the right to have the title of marriage.
before you know it, people will be demanding their "right" to marry their mothers and sisters. People will be demanding their "right" to marry children. And anyone against them will be called a bigot. Once one sexual perversion has been accepted, any can become accepted by using the same logic. don't believe me? the APA is now considering re defining pedophiles as "minor attracted people". And that its a sexual orientation. This is where were heading to..
Can we please note that Elisabeth has evolved SOOOO MUCH since the time this aired? She actually supports equal rights. We all make mistakes - but she learned from gay people. She deserves respect.
There's a difference between debate and pushing your opinion on others. You will never convert someone on this subject. I was just making a point, you said two gays can't physically have children so they should NEVER get married..what if a woman isn't able to have children with a man? Should she NEVER married?
@Love2Lovemusic1 - The government cannot take fertility tests before marriage. it'd be illegal since it'd violate privacy laws. hence, it is ASSUMED. See standhardt v Arizona ("inquire about that subject before issuing a license, thereby implicating constitutionally rooted privacy concerns")
@zztstenglish - Also, the government steps in when a person is assumed to be marrying simply to receive a green card. Does the government invade privacy? Or, do you not care to include that?
@Love2Lovemusic1 - it's like love before marriage. The gov't cannot legislate or enforce love before marriage. yet, we have arranged marriages going on where the couple hasn't even met. Again, it is ASSUMED
@zztstenglish Interesting. So in other words... you're suggesting gay people pay for straight people's marriage rights, and should just bend over and take it (because they can't produce kids).
That seems like quite the gyp to gay couples who pay their own fair share of taxes *frowns*
@SmashtheCmachine - Tell me the reason why the govt subsidizes marriage? Can u give me a reason with evidence please? We've talked about this before and I invited u to ask any reputable economist at any university / college since u seem to think I'm lying. Give me counter evidence
@SmashtheCmachine - ask el stupid if he called me out as pats....I don't recall such an incident. If you are calling me pats, then knock yourself out...
@SmashtheCmachine - oh, yeah...one more thing. "Visitation rights in the hospital" is NOT a government subsidy. Now, I'm waiting for your counter evidence since u think I'm lying...
@SmashtheCmachine - "time and time again, why you think there's such"
It is NOT an assumption. I've submitted articles, a study, and yes, court rulings (which I know u don't like). yet, u seem to think I'm lying with no counter evidence. It is YOU who've not been convincing and frankly, ignorant as to how govt works.
@zztstenglish We can provide as much "evidence" as we like, but without a GOOD reason, we're just appealing to tradition.
I've heard NO good arguments that justify treating the gay community as second class citizens, no matter how much "evidence" you pull out of your ass.
But since you want evidence, and keep squealing "children!", there is an abundance of "evidence" that suggests gay people are more then able to raise children to be productive members of society.
@zztstenglish - I don't think anyone denies that you submit evidence. I think people are judging you based on the evidence submitted.
I ask, what would it take to convince you otherwise? I assert, with confidence, even if same sex was legal, you would still not agree with it based on subjective conviction...
@AverageRidesAgain using Youtube indirectly means you support marriage equality. Google owns Youtube, and has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in support of equality for gays. Also, you might give up your computer altogether, because IBM, Microsoft, Apple and Dell also support it. And, stop driving your car, because so does Chevron, Shell, oh, how could I forget Macys, Starbucks, Nike, Air Jordon, Old Navy and Chase bank, Bank of America, and Citi group?
@lisztnut Please don't bring the country someone is born in, into an argument like this, it makes you seem just as biased and idiot as the person you are arguing against.
@AverageRidesAgain no amount of crying will change the fact that you're not married, but you live with your Thai whore, and pay her a weekly "allowance." Meanwhile, I'm happily married now for four years!
@AverageRidesAgain - "MARRIAGE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT DESIGNED" Indeed, it is...and the question is why does the govt subsidize marriage? what is the logical reasoning behind it? People don't understand how world governments operate since they subsidize marriage for economic reasons like yielding kids from marriage who'll be the state's future workforce (part 1)
@zztstenglish - Why does the government do 'many' things for married couples? It's not always for the petty 'hope' that children will be raised. Many of the benefits and priveleges of marriage are based on the protections of those involved. It seems you focus on one facet of marriage while pretending the others do not exist. Intellectually dishonest in my opinion...
@aquatix I thought the obvious should be spoken, in this instance, since this is a case where straight people and gay people both pay in taxes, yet only the straight couples get to milk the bennies from their hard earned tax dollars at work.
@AverageRidesAgain - (part 2) Take for example china's one-child-policy. Here's a wiki quote: "[One child policy] officially restricts MARRIED, urban couples..." and "original intent of the one child policy was economic...maintaining a steady labor rate, reducing unemployment..." For more evidence, google EU nations offer incentives to have kids or russia's campaign to increase its birthrate
@averageridesagain secondly, is it your opinion that anyone who gets married should get married to have children? Cuz I'm straight and I want to get married someday, but don't want kids. People get married cuz they love each other. everyone should have the right to marry the person they love.
@averageridesagain well that's your arrogant opinion. I happen to know people who were adopted by gays and they love their parents very much and have nothing but good things to say about them. My best friend was raised by two men and guess what..she's a doctor. So they must have done something right.
The RIGHT to get married in America has nothing to do with religion. We're from the US, which is supposed to be the land of the free..to deny two people who LOVE each other the RIGHT of getting married, well that doesn't sound really free to me.
@Love2Lovemusic1 Marriage is to provide a stable enviroment to raise children intended to result from that union. Faggots cannot make children, so no need for them to EVER marry.
I agree with Whoopi and the other lady (sorry I've never seen this show before). How does it hurt you? If gays marry and call it marriage, how does it take something away from your marriage? Maybe if everyone focuses on themselves it would be a better would.
For all you people who speak of different subjects in the bible or religion. God does and never did condone any of them. instead he tolerated them. somr more than others. yes he did give free will to people. but there were things that he did tolerate and then there were things that he did not tolerate. homo sexuality being 1 of the things that was not tolerable.
@Pacethemace9 "For all you people who speak of different subjects in the bible or religion. God does and never did condone any of them. instead he tolerated them"
BUT...! "ALL sins are equal before god". You mean to tell me that god could tolerate and forgive almost beating a slave to death... but he puts his foot down at gay LOVE?
@smashthecmachine. and that has to do with homosexuality how? that's the problem with you people you always have to change the subject. slavery is a totally different subject. and has nothing to do with homosexuality
@Pacethemace9 "and that has to do with homosexuality how?"
Religion is attacking gays. Undermine religion, and that leaves your argument that "So in terms of religion the case rests..." without much of a leg to stand on.
"Christianity hates gays, and is the moral guide to go by" tends to take a hefty blow when faced with it's endorsement of slavery.
@Pacethemace9 I also don't see how appeal to tradition of religious intolerance of gay people makes such intolerance RIGHT.
In fact: "appeal to tradition" is known as a logical fallacy, because "it's always been that way" isn't a logical reason for why it SHOULD be that way.
Religion sort of goes hand in hand with tradition, in many instances.
And yes, I am perfectly aware christianity isn't the only religion. I simply used that as "most notable example".
I dont like religion. Religion is like being in a fricken club. The church I grew up in was a soap opera & i ended up leaving. However I believe in god & jesus. Ya know, we're tight lol I pray every night. I was taught to believe that if I believed in god & that Jesus died for our sins, I would go to heaven. God loves straights, gays, etc..THATS what I was taught.
People those who follow gods laws or least those who try to. Understand that homosexuality is wrong and against god. But if your for homosexuality then your against god and instead follow his supreme fallen angel lucifer. Well I for one do believe in a all powerful creator.. Better that then Nothing!!!
@AverageRidesAgain Being attracted to children and being attracted to other, consenting adults of the same sex have never been related. Not by psychologists, psychiatrists or any other form of doctor.
Paedophilia is considered a mental illness, Homosexuality is not. BY PROFESSIONALS, then again, I guess you have a lot of expertise in the field of neuroscience, right?
I will never have respect for California again. How could 52% of the people actually vote against gay marriage? IF GAY PEOPLE WANT TO MARRY, HOW THE FLYING FUCK DOES IT EVEN AFFECT YOU? It's simple homophobia, that's all it is.
@SystemEquation lol You know that anything besides missionary is un-natural? lol Also, because something is or an idea has a hold of the majority of a population doesn't mean it's right. Moron. ;)
The night is darkest before the dawn. 2010-2015, from my perspective, is the bigots final push, their last political affront. If the likes of Santorum don't take office, this is it. Here and now. The third act of the play, the last round, the final battle.
After this, there will be no credence for what an overwhelming majority will see as blatant prejudice. But a quiet smoldering bigotry will burn on, dying a century-long death out in the suburbs and sticks and church halls...
@Y2Krashman I don't think they'll get office. My greatest fear was Bachmann, for awhile. Yet I honestly doubt that idiot will make it too far, if she hasn't already dropped out of the running.
I'm kind of ruling Obama out for reelection, despite the fact he hired an openly gay person to white house staff.
I can only think of one MLK quote. So I googled it;
"Put yourself in a state of mind where you say to yourself, 'Here is an opportunity for me to celebrate like never before, my own power, my own ability to get myself to do whatever is necessary.”
So you do what you feel is right; your contribution to that which is necessary.
@SmashtheCmachine u give head right back faggot fucking douchebag. like r2d2, u never been in a fight. i dont ask if yer a faggot, i already know u r. try me on 4 size faggot.
Those against SSM are likely aware of the parallels to history's great acts of oppression. They want to sustain the inequality so that they have a class to which they are superior to. It's blatantly akin to racism of the 60's and is also directly comparable to the sexism of that time also.
Wise words, succinct and memorable phrases, go a long way in any fight for equal rights. The time has come where silence is a betrayal...
Jeeze Charlie is a fucken Cad, arguing over the definition of a specific word, and not noting the historic parallels that concern himself in regard to equality! He's a tool. Gr8 show btw!
@Y2Krashman I loved when they ask him if he thinks "majority rule" lol And I cracked up laughing when they muted his voice while telling him to shut up :D
Normally, I don't follow his movements, but stumbled upon that by accident. I'm glad I did, that made my day.
Elizabeth, dear, if equality was voted on state-by-state, blacks would still be second-class citizens in the South. Why do you feel that gays don't deserve the same equality that you have? Call gay marriage something else? Why? If it's equal, why call it by another name? Marriage is a legal institution with specific rights. Just because something was a certain way in the past does not make it right. If marriage were a religious thing, there would be no divorce...til death do you part.....
@nbkcq28 I agree with your conclusions, but it's also true that under our federal system, changes at the national level are normally preceded by incremental steps in what has been called "the laboratory of the states." Gay marriage is actually proceeding fairly quickly in historical terms. I also agree with you when you say "If it's equal, why call it by another name?" If the legal provisions are conceded, what is the state interest in restricting a two-syllable word to heteros only?
@Y2Krashman Thank you. I've never understood why people have to fight for the equality that they, as Americans, should have. I don't understand the hatred that supposed Christians show towards gay people. Hate is a sin, as is judging others. I think it's just that gays are the last group that people can openly hate and feel justified. When gays get equality, where will that hatred turn? Those judgmental, hate-filled people will eat each other alive.
@nbkcq28 NAW. The federal government shouldn't be in the business of marriage, just like they shouldn't be the ones pointing out "discrimination" or whatever. The whole issue of the civil rights act was that inbred RETARDS created state LAWS that enforced segregation. Civil rights act repealed those laws because those f**king Democrat KKK failures weren't obeying the 14th Amendment.
@1337wafflezz I haven't noticed the 14th Amendment helping repeal any anti-gay marriage laws lately. Inbred retards are still creating laws that segregate gays from the right to marry another consenting adult. I guess the f**king Republican KKK failures are doing it now. They want to change the Constitution to prevent gay marriage.
@1337wafflezz "The federal government shouldn't be in the business of marriage" Well, okay, if that's how you want it; of course, that means giving up all of the legal and financial advantages, privileges and protections that come with marriage as a state institution.....I think a lot of people would prefer not to lose those, however they feel about marriage equality.
@booker1959 You mean financial "advantages" like having less taxes? Lol everyone should have less taxes, not just married people.
You want bureaucrats and politicians in DC to have power over our individual lives and decisions. If marriage is a financial incentive and gay marriage is made a LAW, then you are actively encouraging that behavior which is wrong. We'll end up like that Adam Sandler movie which is total BS.
Don't understand taxes any more then the marriage contract, apparently...
Taxes are what pay for road repair, schools, public services/aid... I know it's fun to cry about taxes, but when you consider the services they give us, you might change your mind.
Secondly: the OTHER legalities: like visiting your dying loved one, having property in both your names so family can't seize property... and many more.
@1337wafflezz And I'm not disagreeing with you--I'm not married and have no plans for it (and if I did, hopefully it would be for something more than a tax break!), my point was just that when some people (not you) talk about getting government "out of the marriage business" they're not thinking about the benefits they'd be giving up (which I'm sure many of them would NOT want to lose)
@bresophil I think it's because "suffrage" sounds like suffering right? yet women's suffrage refers to their right to vote. I use to get confused all the time by it too
Marriage seems like it would be more of a burden anyway. If people want to get married it should be their choice even though it might not be a very smart one. I always think back to the old "ball n chain" scenario and know that if I ever get tied down, it's going to be close to that in both the literal and figurative sense. Besides, what defines love? It's not some piece of paper legally binding two individuals, it's matters of the heart that it ultimately comes down to.
If Elizabeth's so worried about protecting the institution of marriage, what is she doing about the fact that 50% of marriages end in divorce? Is she campaigning against that? These people aren't worried about protecting the sanctity of marriage.They're ok with gay people as long as they're not at the same level of straight people. Isn't that what they used to do to african americans?
Straight people commenting on gay rights as if they have a clue (especially Elizabeth) please these women have no idea what they're talking about. Do some research on the topic before you think you have even the slightest of rights to comment on it.
@ehandkz I'm straight, and deliberately advocate for it ;)
What can I say, I'm tired of the assholes thinking they have a free reign. For far too long, I've had to deal with groups of them asking if I'm a "faggot" because I apparently seemed effeminate to them.
So now I decided it was time they got knocked down a peg.
Call me r2d2 or Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker is just fucken weird. Calling *me* a pedo doesn't make sense. I fuck men. Big 200lbs plus men.
Children and teens just aren't tough enough.
But to you, you like their weakness. Their soft feminity, and their delicate vulnerability. That's why you *are* a pedo. And I'll quote you "yeah, but can't you see their potential?"
No Stalkerfag. Just no.
SSM won't let u fuck kids Stalkerfag, so u oppose!
Those who support the lgbt community should realize that arguing with people who only present distorted facts & express mindless hate is a waste of good energy. However, disputing misguided religious zealots, or those who try to intellectualize their hate toward the gay community serves as useful targeting. Meanwhile, I suggest, just let the haters spout their childish garbage, as in the long term their words have actually served to bring more people to our side.
Only when I hear a VERY excellent argument that undeniably proves that denying gay people marriage rights is not only logically sound, but justifies going against the constitutional rights, and merits treating gay people like second class citizens, when they pay an equal measure in taxes.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only ever raise straight children.
8) Same sex marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion.
@Shari3012000 Are you stupid? "Gay parents will obviously raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children"...... If thats true where the hell did the gay individuals come from? The sky? "We have only one religion"....... No, we have a dominant religon but "not" one religion.
@Shari3012000 Are you stupid? "Gay parents will obviously raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children"...... If thats true where the hell did the gay individuals come from? The sky? "We have only one religion"....... No, we have a dominant religon but "not" one religion.
@Shari3012000 Are you stupid? "Gay parents will obviously raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children"...... If thats true where the hell did the gay individuals come from? The sky? "We have only one religion"....... No, we have a dominant religon but "not" one religion.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Same sex marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans...
there's no doubt jerry sandusky conducted in homo acts and yet, many try to paint him as a hetero just because he was married. Evidently, he was living a lie
But I am glad you can admit that the sexuality of the pedo isnt based on something other than homosexual (inc Bi-sexual or Straight), because that proves that men who may be married to a woman yet molest boys are infact GAY not straight. Hehehe. We are winning this agrument, yay for the straight guys.
AverageRidesAgain 3 minutes ago
Due to 98% of societies males being hetro a higher incidence of pedophilia is expected, but statistically a faggot is 7.5 times more likely to be a pedophile than a hetro, as pedophilia is a part of the gay culture and history and literature. Of all pedophiles 40% actually identify as Homosexuals. And offend at a higher frequency than hetro pedo's.
AverageRidesAgain 3 minutes ago
I couldn't get past the first few seconds sufferage=the right to vote, not anything to do with lynching.
Carolinepleasee 1 hour ago
Gooo Whoopie!
TheAlexKiernan 2 hours ago
it's been awhile since I have commented on this page. And after a year it's still the same ole arguments. You got the Christians waving their bibles and the pro homosexual marriage trying to pull the prejudice card to win an argument.
CatholicusxRomanus 2 hours ago
@CatholicusxRomanus I am neither gay nor christian, hehehe.
AverageRidesAgain 1 hour ago
@AverageRidesAgain According to the World Health Organization, AIDS is primarily a heterosexual disease worldwide, with 80-90 percent of infections being due to heterosexual disgusting sex!
lisztnut 23 minutes ago
@AverageRidesAgain One in four women in America is abused by a straight male, and one in five is raped. CDC
lisztnut 22 minutes ago
@AverageRidesAgain 90 percent of all child molesters are heterosexual males. CDC
lisztnut 22 minutes ago
suffrage is the right to vote...
mattman1214 5 hours ago
@mattman1214 Yes yes; if you glance over the comments thread, that's been covered about 500 times.
booker1959 4 hours ago
Homosexuality is a sin. Rebuke the sin, not the sinner.
MsGreatescape89 8 hours ago
@patssoxity - LOL! look at these cretinous morons arguing it is a 'rights' issue. A) Marriage is not in the Bill Of Rights. B) The Loving court was not talking about gay marriage when it declared marriage as a right since it dismissed Baker. C) Even the EU court found no violation of human rights
I suspect they cannot 'think-outside-the-box' or they're just willfully ignorant of how world govt's operate.
Their 'rights' argument is BASELESS
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
(Oh, I know... the benefits shouldn't be the reason for marriage. But the point remains.)
SmashtheCmachine 9 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - And it wouldn't matter if that were the objective for someone to get married; it's there perogative. But I understand the point and agree.
aquatix 9 hours ago
I don't understand how this is still an issue. Civil Unions give same sex couples the rights of Married couples. However marriage was an institution created by the church, it is in no way a right. It was intended and written down to be between a man and a woman.
Give equality. Gay couples should have the same rights and benefits as married couples, they should be in a civil union, but they don't have the right to have the title of marriage.
colinpetersofficial 11 hours ago
@colinpetersofficial That is called "separate but equal". It was a ploy used during segregation! Great idea, there!
If it were developed by the church, then I suggest that your people petition against having legal benefits granted married couples.
Oh, hey! That would also discourage ATHEIST marriage!
And ending with more "segregation-style" "separate but equal"...
To drop the sarcasm, that never was very equal...
SmashtheCmachine 10 hours ago
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@SmashtheCmachine Hey Cindercheth. How you doing?
patssoxity 10 hours ago
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zztstenglish 8 hours ago
That's how the supreme court works... regardless of the issue.
chica476 12 hours ago
suffragism is the right to vote Whoopi...
jesus christ...
chica476 12 hours ago
Whoopie, clearly all of you don't know what "black suffrage" means. Because it does not mean "suffering", it means "the right to vote"
julesbr 22 hours ago 6
@julesbr She has a good heart, but dumb as bricks.
IBJ57 21 hours ago
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before you know it, people will be demanding their "right" to marry their mothers and sisters. People will be demanding their "right" to marry children. And anyone against them will be called a bigot. Once one sexual perversion has been accepted, any can become accepted by using the same logic. don't believe me? the APA is now considering re defining pedophiles as "minor attracted people". And that its a sexual orientation. This is where were heading to..
TheAsooma101 23 hours ago
Can we please note that Elisabeth has evolved SOOOO MUCH since the time this aired? She actually supports equal rights. We all make mistakes - but she learned from gay people. She deserves respect.
202bigbrother 1 day ago
There's a difference between debate and pushing your opinion on others. You will never convert someone on this subject. I was just making a point, you said two gays can't physically have children so they should NEVER get married..what if a woman isn't able to have children with a man? Should she NEVER married?
Love2Lovemusic1 1 day ago
@Love2Lovemusic1 - The government cannot take fertility tests before marriage. it'd be illegal since it'd violate privacy laws. hence, it is ASSUMED. See standhardt v Arizona ("inquire about that subject before issuing a license, thereby implicating constitutionally rooted privacy concerns")
zztstenglish 14 hours ago
@zztstenglish - Also, the government steps in when a person is assumed to be marrying simply to receive a green card. Does the government invade privacy? Or, do you not care to include that?
aquatix 9 hours ago
@Love2Lovemusic1 - it's like love before marriage. The gov't cannot legislate or enforce love before marriage. yet, we have arranged marriages going on where the couple hasn't even met. Again, it is ASSUMED
zztstenglish 14 hours ago
@zztstenglish - And whether it is assumed or not, people are not denied marriage rights based on their inability to satisfy assumptions...
Do you care about your convictions; it appears not.
aquatix 10 hours ago
@zztstenglish Interesting. So in other words... you're suggesting gay people pay for straight people's marriage rights, and should just bend over and take it (because they can't produce kids).
That seems like quite the gyp to gay couples who pay their own fair share of taxes *frowns*
SmashtheCmachine 9 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine well we as gay people are good at bending over and taking it hahaha
menmenau 9 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - Tell me the reason why the govt subsidizes marriage? Can u give me a reason with evidence please? We've talked about this before and I invited u to ask any reputable economist at any university / college since u seem to think I'm lying. Give me counter evidence
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
@zztstenglish Okay, pats. I did a search for why government subsidizes it... and I found no good evidence supporting YOU. You care to try again?
Now LOGIC would denote for protections. Such as... your partner not having their property taken when you die. Visitation rights in the hospital.
Etcetera.
But of course you lack logic, or are simply trying to justify being a bigot. Either/or.
SmashtheCmachine 8 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - Ummm...I'm not Pats?! Pats was talking to u and it was flagged as spam???
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
@zztstenglish Oh, he was? Didn't really look like he was addressing me, so I simply ignored him lol
SmashtheCmachine 8 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - Hmmm....take a look at pats post yourself.
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
@zztstenglish And by the way, I think it was you Elseedy outed as pats. If not, then I'll admit when I'm mistaken.
So I was calling YOU pats.
It's cute, you even replied to yourself!
SmashtheCmachine 8 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - ask el stupid if he called me out as pats....I don't recall such an incident. If you are calling me pats, then knock yourself out...
Anyway, doorbell is ringing....be right back
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - oh, yeah...one more thing. "Visitation rights in the hospital" is NOT a government subsidy. Now, I'm waiting for your counter evidence since u think I'm lying...
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
@zztstenglish You've covered that time and time again, why you think there's such a great reason for marriage subsidy.
And you have not been convincing.
My claim: you're appealing to tradition, in a way.
Try coming up with a logical reason WHY it should be denied gay folk, then we'll talk.
SmashtheCmachine 8 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - "time and time again, why you think there's such"
It is NOT an assumption. I've submitted articles, a study, and yes, court rulings (which I know u don't like). yet, u seem to think I'm lying with no counter evidence. It is YOU who've not been convincing and frankly, ignorant as to how govt works.
zztstenglish 8 hours ago
@zztstenglish We can provide as much "evidence" as we like, but without a GOOD reason, we're just appealing to tradition.
I've heard NO good arguments that justify treating the gay community as second class citizens, no matter how much "evidence" you pull out of your ass.
But since you want evidence, and keep squealing "children!", there is an abundance of "evidence" that suggests gay people are more then able to raise children to be productive members of society.
Look it up.
SmashtheCmachine 8 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - Ah, but that evidence is not acceptable, to zz's. He has stated that it is not conclusive and more research needs to be done.
It's odd that this is something he considers for the opposition but never feels the same should be applied to his 'evidence'.
aquatix 4 hours ago
@zztstenglish - I don't think anyone denies that you submit evidence. I think people are judging you based on the evidence submitted.
I ask, what would it take to convince you otherwise? I assert, with confidence, even if same sex was legal, you would still not agree with it based on subjective conviction...
aquatix 5 hours ago
ADOPTION, SO YOU AGREE FAGGOTS CAN NEVER HAVE THEIR OWN CHILDREN, FAGISM IS UNNATURAL AND SICK.
AverageRidesAgain 1 day ago
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@AverageRidesAgain using Youtube indirectly means you support marriage equality. Google owns Youtube, and has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in support of equality for gays. Also, you might give up your computer altogether, because IBM, Microsoft, Apple and Dell also support it. And, stop driving your car, because so does Chevron, Shell, oh, how could I forget Macys, Starbucks, Nike, Air Jordon, Old Navy and Chase bank, Bank of America, and Citi group?
lisztnut 1 day ago
@AverageRidesAgain wardawk, thousands of gays have BIOLOGICAL children, you dumbass Aussie. How is gay marriage going in Canberra?
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut Please don't bring the country someone is born in, into an argument like this, it makes you seem just as biased and idiot as the person you are arguing against.
angrynutrients 20 hours ago
@AverageRidesAgain I oppose the heterosexual lifestyle. It leads to:
1 abortion
2 teen pregnancy
3 child molestation (98 percent of molesters are heterosexual males)
4 violent crime
5 abandoned and unwanted children
6 abuse of women (one in four women in America is abused by a straight male and one in five is raped!)
7 AIDS (80-90 percent of AIDS cases worldwide are caused by heterosexual sex)
lisztnut 1 day ago 21
@lisztnut Any proof? Didnt think so. HIV is predominantly a GAY disease, spread mostly by GAYS and GAYS mostly getting infected. CDC.
AverageRidesAgain 1 hour ago
@AverageRidesAgain no amount of crying will change the fact that you're not married, but you live with your Thai whore, and pay her a weekly "allowance." Meanwhile, I'm happily married now for four years!
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut
1. Average AKA Stalkerfag couldn't afford a thai whore even if he was straight.
2. Average AKA Stalkerfag couldn't afford a male thai MAN whore if someone paid his air fare and accommodation. And thai whores be fucken cheap!
Y2Krashman 23 hours ago
@Y2Krashman LOL! Good one.
lisztnut 22 hours ago
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@Y2Krashman "1. Average AKA Stalkerfag couldn't afford a thai whore even if he was straight.
2. Average AKA Stalkerfag couldn't afford a male thai MAN whore if someone paid his air fare and accommodation. And thai whores be fucken cheap!"
Touche'!
I guess he just fantasizes about 'em.
SmashtheCmachine 19 hours ago
@AverageRidesAgain And... STUPIDITY IS natural. No less sick...
...and unfortunately, as much as I cry and lobby, it wont make YOU go away :D
SmashtheCmachine 19 hours ago
MARRIAGE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT DESIGNED FOR WHAT i JUST OUTLINED, NO AMOUNT OF CRYING OR LOBBYING WILL CHANGE THAT.
AverageRidesAgain 1 day ago
@AverageRidesAgain - "MARRIAGE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT DESIGNED" Indeed, it is...and the question is why does the govt subsidize marriage? what is the logical reasoning behind it? People don't understand how world governments operate since they subsidize marriage for economic reasons like yielding kids from marriage who'll be the state's future workforce (part 1)
zztstenglish 14 hours ago
@zztstenglish - Why does the government do 'many' things for married couples? It's not always for the petty 'hope' that children will be raised. Many of the benefits and priveleges of marriage are based on the protections of those involved. It seems you focus on one facet of marriage while pretending the others do not exist. Intellectually dishonest in my opinion...
aquatix 10 hours ago
@aquatix "Many of the benefits and priveleges of marriage are based on the protections of those involved"
Which people pay for in taxes to obtain.
SmashtheCmachine 10 hours ago
@SmashtheCmachine - Quite true.
aquatix 9 hours ago
@aquatix I thought the obvious should be spoken, in this instance, since this is a case where straight people and gay people both pay in taxes, yet only the straight couples get to milk the bennies from their hard earned tax dollars at work.
SmashtheCmachine 9 hours ago
@AverageRidesAgain - (part 2) Take for example china's one-child-policy. Here's a wiki quote: "[One child policy] officially restricts MARRIED, urban couples..." and "original intent of the one child policy was economic...maintaining a steady labor rate, reducing unemployment..." For more evidence, google EU nations offer incentives to have kids or russia's campaign to increase its birthrate
zztstenglish 14 hours ago
@averageridesagain secondly, is it your opinion that anyone who gets married should get married to have children? Cuz I'm straight and I want to get married someday, but don't want kids. People get married cuz they love each other. everyone should have the right to marry the person they love.
Love2Lovemusic1 1 day ago
@averageridesagain well that's your arrogant opinion. I happen to know people who were adopted by gays and they love their parents very much and have nothing but good things to say about them. My best friend was raised by two men and guess what..she's a doctor. So they must have done something right.
Love2Lovemusic1 1 day ago
@smashthecmachine. God will forgive any sin.
Pacethemace9 1 day ago
@aquatix. And? billions of people that feel what way?
Pacethemace9 1 day ago
The RIGHT to get married in America has nothing to do with religion. We're from the US, which is supposed to be the land of the free..to deny two people who LOVE each other the RIGHT of getting married, well that doesn't sound really free to me.
Love2Lovemusic1 1 day ago
@Love2Lovemusic1 Marriage is to provide a stable enviroment to raise children intended to result from that union. Faggots cannot make children, so no need for them to EVER marry.
AverageRidesAgain 1 day ago
Cluck Cluck cluckah!
Darius135gease 1 day ago
I agree with Whoopi and the other lady (sorry I've never seen this show before). How does it hurt you? If gays marry and call it marriage, how does it take something away from your marriage? Maybe if everyone focuses on themselves it would be a better would.
KayRose111 1 day ago
@KayRose111 ***world.
KayRose111 1 day ago
@KayRose111 I'm not sure "focusing on themselves" is the answer, either. That could turn into apathetic selfishness.
But people definitely need to have realistic priorities, and learn to distinguish what IS their concern or not.
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
For all you people who speak of different subjects in the bible or religion. God does and never did condone any of them. instead he tolerated them. somr more than others. yes he did give free will to people. but there were things that he did tolerate and then there were things that he did not tolerate. homo sexuality being 1 of the things that was not tolerable.
Pacethemace9 1 day ago
@Pacethemace9 Your ignorance concerning Christianity and the Bible has what to do with the civil contract of marriage?
ElSeedyMinotaur 1 day ago
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@ElSeedyMinotaur "Your ignorance concerning Christianity and the Bible has what to do with the civil contract of marriage?"
It IS quite amazing that the people using the bible as argument against gay marriage are tremendously ignorant of it.
These are the very people who find only the quotes that suit them, while neglecting to consider anything that doesn't.
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
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@ElSeedyMinotaur Do you believe all of the Bible or none of the Bible?
Either prove I'm babes or shut up (better yet, grow up).
patssoxity 1 day ago
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@Pacethemace9 "For all you people who speak of different subjects in the bible or religion. God does and never did condone any of them. instead he tolerated them"
BUT...! "ALL sins are equal before god". You mean to tell me that god could tolerate and forgive almost beating a slave to death... but he puts his foot down at gay LOVE?
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
@Pacethemace9 - Wonderful; you know the mind of god. You may have been legit...If only there weren't billions others who felt the same way.
aquatix 1 day ago
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@aquatix The mind of God is in His Word. He's made that known to us for quite some time.
patssoxity 1 day ago
@smashthecmachine. and that has to do with homosexuality how? that's the problem with you people you always have to change the subject. slavery is a totally different subject. and has nothing to do with homosexuality
Pacethemace9 1 day ago
@Pacethemace9 "and that has to do with homosexuality how?"
Religion is attacking gays. Undermine religion, and that leaves your argument that "So in terms of religion the case rests..." without much of a leg to stand on.
"Christianity hates gays, and is the moral guide to go by" tends to take a hefty blow when faced with it's endorsement of slavery.
Come on... that should have been OBVIOUS.
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
@Pacethemace9 I also don't see how appeal to tradition of religious intolerance of gay people makes such intolerance RIGHT.
In fact: "appeal to tradition" is known as a logical fallacy, because "it's always been that way" isn't a logical reason for why it SHOULD be that way.
Religion sort of goes hand in hand with tradition, in many instances.
And yes, I am perfectly aware christianity isn't the only religion. I simply used that as "most notable example".
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
I dont like religion. Religion is like being in a fricken club. The church I grew up in was a soap opera & i ended up leaving. However I believe in god & jesus. Ya know, we're tight lol I pray every night. I was taught to believe that if I believed in god & that Jesus died for our sins, I would go to heaven. God loves straights, gays, etc..THATS what I was taught.
Love2Lovemusic1 1 day ago
@richiemayne "verbal diarrhea in my life"
Come on this forum daily. You will see lots of it
pdynamics1 1 day ago
So in terms of religion the case rests .homosexuality is wrong gay marriage is wrong. And those who support it are wrong.
Pacethemace9 1 day ago
@Pacethemace9 Your 'understanding' of religion seems about as deep as your understanding of the English language...
ElSeedyMinotaur 1 day ago
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@ElSeedyMinotaur Pace has it right. You're a Christian disgrace.
patssoxity 1 day ago
@patssoxity No, babecursenomo.
Pace doesn't.
Would you like to discuss WHY Pace is wrong now?
ElSeedyMinotaur 1 day ago
@Pacethemace9 In terms of religion, it is also wrong to beat your slaves to death... but ONLY so long as they don't die right away.
Considering all the weird crap religion sees as "right" or "wrong"... I really don't think you should rely on their standards ;)
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
People those who follow gods laws or least those who try to. Understand that homosexuality is wrong and against god. But if your for homosexuality then your against god and instead follow his supreme fallen angel lucifer. Well I for one do believe in a all powerful creator.. Better that then Nothing!!!
Pacethemace9 1 day ago
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What about the link between pedophilia and homosexuality, that needs to be considered too.
AverageRidesAgain 1 day ago
@AverageRidesAgain Being attracted to children and being attracted to other, consenting adults of the same sex have never been related. Not by psychologists, psychiatrists or any other form of doctor.
Paedophilia is considered a mental illness, Homosexuality is not. BY PROFESSIONALS, then again, I guess you have a lot of expertise in the field of neuroscience, right?
angrynutrients 20 hours ago
I will never have respect for California again. How could 52% of the people actually vote against gay marriage? IF GAY PEOPLE WANT TO MARRY, HOW THE FLYING FUCK DOES IT EVEN AFFECT YOU? It's simple homophobia, that's all it is.
warlordgorgutz1 2 days ago
hasslecunt is an idiot
phildirt3 2 days ago 6
Stopped watching this after less than a minute. I've never heard so much verbal diarrhea in my life.
richiemayne 2 days ago
Homosexuality is sexual deviancy. It has never been the majority of people or anywhere even close.
SystemEquation 2 days ago
@SystemEquation Funny, I always heard it said that the only unnatural sex is NO sex at all...
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
@SystemEquation lol You know that anything besides missionary is un-natural? lol Also, because something is or an idea has a hold of the majority of a population doesn't mean it's right. Moron. ;)
TheEK50 2 days ago
@SystemEquation Deviancy? Lol nice try troll
itachi000797 2 days ago
@SystemEquation Wow. It kind of sounds like you're saying anything that isn't the majority is automatically wrong. Is that what you're saying..?
GuacamoleKun 1 day ago
@SystemEquation
left-handedness is a handed deviancy, it had never been the majority of people or anywhere even close.
ourorboros2 1 day ago
@SmashtheCmachine
The night is darkest before the dawn. 2010-2015, from my perspective, is the bigots final push, their last political affront. If the likes of Santorum don't take office, this is it. Here and now. The third act of the play, the last round, the final battle.
After this, there will be no credence for what an overwhelming majority will see as blatant prejudice. But a quiet smoldering bigotry will burn on, dying a century-long death out in the suburbs and sticks and church halls...
Y2Krashman 2 days ago
@Y2Krashman I don't think they'll get office. My greatest fear was Bachmann, for awhile. Yet I honestly doubt that idiot will make it too far, if she hasn't already dropped out of the running.
I'm kind of ruling Obama out for reelection, despite the fact he hired an openly gay person to white house staff.
So we'll see.
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
@SmashtheCmachine
I can only think of one MLK quote. So I googled it;
"Put yourself in a state of mind where you say to yourself, 'Here is an opportunity for me to celebrate like never before, my own power, my own ability to get myself to do whatever is necessary.”
So you do what you feel is right; your contribution to that which is necessary.
Y2Krashman 2 days ago
@Y2Krashman Those too.
Truth be known, I find that inspiring a sense of vindictiveness inside myself helps me keep up the fight for what's right.
Some days, I'd rather hide from the crazy world, when I've seen user names like "Bodybags4filthyfags".
But hiding never accomplishes anything.
So I remind myself how much I put up with those cowardly douchebags outnumbering me while asking if I'm a faggot... and I give them hell right back.
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
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@SmashtheCmachine u give head right back faggot fucking douchebag. like r2d2, u never been in a fight. i dont ask if yer a faggot, i already know u r. try me on 4 size faggot.
odyoday 2 days ago
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Colour and faggotry arent the same, race is fine, gay isnt.
AverageRidesAgain 2 days ago
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Happy Ozzie day u poo eating faggots.
AverageRidesAgain 2 days ago
@SmashtheCmachine
Despite his misguided beliefs, Charlie clearly doesn't know what his stance is in regard to SSM, or why he holds that view. Only that he does.
Ironically, the same Iew would have him in chains, unable to marry, or unable to marry outside of his ethnic group...
Y2Krashman 2 days ago
@Y2Krashman Exactly. He's basically supporting all the people who previously kept HIM under their heels.
I agree, he is a tool.
It's sad that he can't even see it.
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
@Y2Krashman Alternatively, I've been called a tool before for being straight but supporting gay people...
Just to state that up front.
But I'd rather be a tool for humanitarianism and equality then all this "I hate fags" nonsense.
Shit, dude... I find GOOD reasons to base my hatred of others on.
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
@nbkcq28
Those against SSM are likely aware of the parallels to history's great acts of oppression. They want to sustain the inequality so that they have a class to which they are superior to. It's blatantly akin to racism of the 60's and is also directly comparable to the sexism of that time also.
Wise words, succinct and memorable phrases, go a long way in any fight for equal rights. The time has come where silence is a betrayal...
Y2Krashman 2 days ago
@SmashtheCmachine
Jeeze Charlie is a fucken Cad, arguing over the definition of a specific word, and not noting the historic parallels that concern himself in regard to equality! He's a tool. Gr8 show btw!
Y2Krashman 2 days ago
@Y2Krashman I loved when they ask him if he thinks "majority rule" lol And I cracked up laughing when they muted his voice while telling him to shut up :D
Normally, I don't follow his movements, but stumbled upon that by accident. I'm glad I did, that made my day.
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
@SmashtheCmachine
Let's have a look. Gimme 2 mins.
Y2Krashman 2 days ago
democracy- the will of the majority rules but cannot deny the rights of the minority
^^^
we don't technicly have a democracy anymore -_-
TheSadandalone 3 days ago
suffrage is the right to VOTE, they make no sense!
barbaric37 3 days ago 3
Elizabeth, dear, if equality was voted on state-by-state, blacks would still be second-class citizens in the South. Why do you feel that gays don't deserve the same equality that you have? Call gay marriage something else? Why? If it's equal, why call it by another name? Marriage is a legal institution with specific rights. Just because something was a certain way in the past does not make it right. If marriage were a religious thing, there would be no divorce...til death do you part.....
nbkcq28 3 days ago 25
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@nbkcq28 I agree with your conclusions, but it's also true that under our federal system, changes at the national level are normally preceded by incremental steps in what has been called "the laboratory of the states." Gay marriage is actually proceeding fairly quickly in historical terms. I also agree with you when you say "If it's equal, why call it by another name?" If the legal provisions are conceded, what is the state interest in restricting a two-syllable word to heteros only?
booker1959 3 days ago
@nbkcq28
You present the most direct and concise argument for either side of the ssm debate that I have seen yet.
"If it's equal, why call it by another name?" "If Marriage were a religious thing, there would be no divorce... till death do you part...."
Direct. Simple. Brilliant.
Y2Krashman 2 days ago 2
@Y2Krashman Thank you. I've never understood why people have to fight for the equality that they, as Americans, should have. I don't understand the hatred that supposed Christians show towards gay people. Hate is a sin, as is judging others. I think it's just that gays are the last group that people can openly hate and feel justified. When gays get equality, where will that hatred turn? Those judgmental, hate-filled people will eat each other alive.
nbkcq28 2 days ago 5
@Y2Krashman Wow. I agree.
That vid I sent still never came through?
SmashtheCmachine 2 days ago
@nbkcq28 NAW. The federal government shouldn't be in the business of marriage, just like they shouldn't be the ones pointing out "discrimination" or whatever. The whole issue of the civil rights act was that inbred RETARDS created state LAWS that enforced segregation. Civil rights act repealed those laws because those f**king Democrat KKK failures weren't obeying the 14th Amendment.
1337wafflezz 2 days ago
@1337wafflezz I haven't noticed the 14th Amendment helping repeal any anti-gay marriage laws lately. Inbred retards are still creating laws that segregate gays from the right to marry another consenting adult. I guess the f**king Republican KKK failures are doing it now. They want to change the Constitution to prevent gay marriage.
nbkcq28 2 days ago
@1337wafflezz "The federal government shouldn't be in the business of marriage" Well, okay, if that's how you want it; of course, that means giving up all of the legal and financial advantages, privileges and protections that come with marriage as a state institution.....I think a lot of people would prefer not to lose those, however they feel about marriage equality.
booker1959 1 day ago
@booker1959 You mean financial "advantages" like having less taxes? Lol everyone should have less taxes, not just married people.
You want bureaucrats and politicians in DC to have power over our individual lives and decisions. If marriage is a financial incentive and gay marriage is made a LAW, then you are actively encouraging that behavior which is wrong. We'll end up like that Adam Sandler movie which is total BS.
1337wafflezz 1 day ago
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@1337wafflezz "everyone should have less taxes"
Don't understand taxes any more then the marriage contract, apparently...
Taxes are what pay for road repair, schools, public services/aid... I know it's fun to cry about taxes, but when you consider the services they give us, you might change your mind.
Secondly: the OTHER legalities: like visiting your dying loved one, having property in both your names so family can't seize property... and many more.
SmashtheCmachine 1 day ago
@1337wafflezz And I'm not disagreeing with you--I'm not married and have no plans for it (and if I did, hopefully it would be for something more than a tax break!), my point was just that when some people (not you) talk about getting government "out of the marriage business" they're not thinking about the benefits they'd be giving up (which I'm sure many of them would NOT want to lose)
booker1959 1 day ago
@nbkcq28 Separate but equal right? ;)
shadywolf91 1 day ago
@shadywolf91 lol. So they say. However, what I've read of civil unions, they don't give equal rights, just partial ones...lol
nbkcq28 1 day ago
It's funny how these people don't know what the term "sufferage" means...
bresophil 3 days ago 14
@bresophil I think it's because "suffrage" sounds like suffering right? yet women's suffrage refers to their right to vote. I use to get confused all the time by it too
jlovessin 1 day ago
Marriage seems like it would be more of a burden anyway. If people want to get married it should be their choice even though it might not be a very smart one. I always think back to the old "ball n chain" scenario and know that if I ever get tied down, it's going to be close to that in both the literal and figurative sense. Besides, what defines love? It's not some piece of paper legally binding two individuals, it's matters of the heart that it ultimately comes down to.
DatSlowpoke 3 days ago
@jonscreen I totally concur. Many do not do their homework on this subject.
pdynamics1 3 days ago
If Elizabeth's so worried about protecting the institution of marriage, what is she doing about the fact that 50% of marriages end in divorce? Is she campaigning against that? These people aren't worried about protecting the sanctity of marriage.They're ok with gay people as long as they're not at the same level of straight people. Isn't that what they used to do to african americans?
Adolfo78207 3 days ago
Straight people commenting on gay rights as if they have a clue (especially Elizabeth) please these women have no idea what they're talking about. Do some research on the topic before you think you have even the slightest of rights to comment on it.
jonscreen 3 days ago
@jonscreen I'm straight and I'm fine with gay marriage, but I guess my opinion doesn't matter does it?
ehandkz 3 days ago
@ehandkz I'm straight, and deliberately advocate for it ;)
What can I say, I'm tired of the assholes thinking they have a free reign. For far too long, I've had to deal with groups of them asking if I'm a "faggot" because I apparently seemed effeminate to them.
So now I decided it was time they got knocked down a peg.
SmashtheCmachine 3 days ago
The word "suffrage" has to do with voting rights...not suffering!
orange9016 3 days ago
Ellizabeth is ridiculous. Fight for the right not the word marriage? Separate but equal? Please. If it's not called marriage, it's not marriage.
cooolness3 3 days ago
@stalkerfag
Still upset that I know you're a pedo?
Call me r2d2 or Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker is just fucken weird. Calling *me* a pedo doesn't make sense. I fuck men. Big 200lbs plus men.
Children and teens just aren't tough enough.
But to you, you like their weakness. Their soft feminity, and their delicate vulnerability. That's why you *are* a pedo. And I'll quote you "yeah, but can't you see their potential?"
No Stalkerfag. Just no.
SSM won't let u fuck kids Stalkerfag, so u oppose!
Y2Krashman 4 days ago
@Y2Krashman You still around? Am wondering what you thought of that video I sent you.
SmashtheCmachine 3 days ago
@Y2Krashman Holy crap, he really asked that? ("yeah, but can't you see their potential?")
Stalkerfag is so whacked... I hope someone turns him into the authorities before he hurts any more kids.
Now I'm not fond of kids... but they don't deserve to be abused by creeps like Average...
SmashtheCmachine 3 days ago
@SmashtheCmachine
Holy crap, he really asked that? ("yeah, but can't you see their potential?")
Yes. I also busted him peeping through a fence into some random backyard because it had "play equipment." Disgraceful sonofawhore.
Wouldn't have a clue what else his done, but I'd be the first to report it if I knew!
As for your vid, nothing's come through.
Did you send the link as a "shared with you"?
Y2Krashman 3 days ago
@Y2Krashman I tried that, now. Let me know if it came through.
SmashtheCmachine 3 days ago
Those who support the lgbt community should realize that arguing with people who only present distorted facts & express mindless hate is a waste of good energy. However, disputing misguided religious zealots, or those who try to intellectualize their hate toward the gay community serves as useful targeting. Meanwhile, I suggest, just let the haters spout their childish garbage, as in the long term their words have actually served to bring more people to our side.
paulsboroman 4 days ago
Thank you for posting this, RandomClips2008.
writersblock26 4 days ago
No to homosexual marriage.
SystemEquation 4 days ago
@SystemEquation - Pure curiousity, what is your reasoning for assisting in the denial of marriage rights to homosexuals?
aquatix 4 days ago
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@SystemEquation "No to homosexual marriage."
Only when I hear a VERY excellent argument that undeniably proves that denying gay people marriage rights is not only logically sound, but justifies going against the constitutional rights, and merits treating gay people like second class citizens, when they pay an equal measure in taxes.
SmashtheCmachine 4 days ago
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7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only ever raise straight children.
8) Same sex marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion.
Shari3012000 4 days ago
@Shari3012000 Are you stupid? "Gay parents will obviously raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children"...... If thats true where the hell did the gay individuals come from? The sky? "We have only one religion"....... No, we have a dominant religon but "not" one religion.
hawaiianguy2991 4 days ago
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@Shari3012000 Are you stupid? "Gay parents will obviously raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children"...... If thats true where the hell did the gay individuals come from? The sky? "We have only one religion"....... No, we have a dominant religon but "not" one religion.
hawaiianguy2991 4 days ago
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@Shari3012000 Are you stupid? "Gay parents will obviously raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children"...... If thats true where the hell did the gay individuals come from? The sky? "We have only one religion"....... No, we have a dominant religon but "not" one religion.
hawaiianguy2991 4 days ago
@Shari3012000 Yeah of course! Straight parents only raise straight children, so I ask you, where did the first gay come from?
Check mate.
Also, we do not have one religion, we have many, and all of the are wrong, and you shouldn't make everyone follow the same religion.
IF you are being sarcastic than I am sorry.
partyxday 4 days ago
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9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Same sex marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans...
Shari3012000 4 days ago
Personally, I find Average's and Ody's (same person, I bet)'s obsession with child molestation absolutely disgusting.
We're discussing grown adults who love each other, who haven to have the same... "junk in the trunk".
Leave it to the disgusting perverts to mention pedophilia at every opportunity.
SmashtheCmachine 4 days ago
@AverageRidesAgain ya kiddie fuckers...
there's no doubt jerry sandusky conducted in homo acts and yet, many try to paint him as a hetero just because he was married. Evidently, he was living a lie
pdynamics1 4 days ago
@pdynamics1 I think people call him 'hetero' because that is how he, himself, identified.
What would you call him? He had sex with women as well...
ElSeedyMinotaur 4 days ago
@AverageRidesAgain there's lots and lots of sock puppets on here...
pdynamics1 4 days ago
Y2K is filth alright, thats not in dispute.
AverageRidesAgain 4 days ago
@AverageRidesAgain y2d2 is a sick pedo, been chasing babies since he was 10. he'll tell u he was "born that way" just like the rest of the faggots.
odyoday 4 days ago
@AverageRidesAgain that's the worst of it, Average, keeping the faggots clean and orderly. they all needy
odyoday 4 days ago
I am not suprised Ody, we have em chasing their tails and barking at shadows. We are that good.
AverageRidesAgain 4 days ago
@AverageRidesAgain yeah we are. and y2 has been a pedo from the first time he got wood
odyoday 4 days ago
@odyoday Oh, liar... do you lie about everyone?
Why the lies about killing Americans, slime?
ElSeedyMinotaur 4 days ago
@ElSeedyMinotaur pitiful faggot, always need me to say "good faggot" hehe
odyoday 4 days ago
@odyoday No, I need you to stand behind your own words, coward.
You can't.
ElSeedyMinotaur 4 days ago
@ElSeedyMinotaur "U're a good faggot". now go fuck yerself
odyoday 4 days ago