Cosmology: twinkle twinkle little cepheid variable... young earth?

[winterstellar]

I'm listening to music on another headset now, but based on the comments I read here I'm guessing that the tard talking in the video is an american hick. Personally I live in on of the very most secular countries on the planet(and according to wiki the best country in the world to live in), and in my country I think the last fundies died decades ago. Even the two percent church-goers we have(again according to wiki) in my country accept modern science.But how the fuck did I get here, anyway?Bye!

[winterstellar]

@winterstellar I was watching a serious science video on cepheid variables. That was how I accidentally ended up here. Damn, I must learn to be careful with what I click on! Because this was almost like accidentally hitting an animal abuse video or "2 girls, one cup" or something. Seriously, Winter! : (

[perfacetus]

@winterstellar

Best not to comment if you can't hear the person talking. I am most definitely not a hick, neither am I American. I am British.

I accept modern science, if I didn't, I wouldn't be using it to disprove certain accepted concepts.

[winterstellar]

@perfacetus Okay. Sorry for being a bit prejudiced there. I had encountered a few anti-scientific christians on YouTube that day. Cheers.

[perfacetus]

@winterstellar

No worries, we all have bad days!

God bless.

[hermanoguzman]

Great job man! thanks for the promotion too, subscribe to my channel i got plenty more videos coming. We can break down the myths, and show the world reality.

[APDurrant]

I'm assuming this was in the context of a young earth hypothesis? Even with just the visible eye, objects 2.5 million light years away (And therefore, assuming light speed is a universal constant, 2.5 million years old), can be observed, and their distance calculated.

If there is a third category of Cepheids we don't know about, science will do what it always does, adapt it's understanding to reality.

Find that 3rd class, heck, come up with a better explanation for our current knowledge.

[perfacetus]

But my point is how can they tell that what they think is 2.5million light years away is that distance? They can't use parallax that is for sure.

While theory can adapt, that doesn't help in a religious context. What if in 50 years evo-ists 'discover' there is a God? Great... but not so great for the millions who have died in the mean time who were told to ignore Him.

[APDurrant]

@perfacetus

Why not, It's visible with the Naked Eye, with the equipment we have now we should be able to measure the tiniest of distances, which would allow us to measure the parallax.

The Estimation of distances of stars is done with the best of our knowledge, to the best of our ability, with the information we have available to us, and it changes based on new evidence, constantly adjusted and re calibrated so as to more accurately fit reality. That's the rational way to operate.

[perfacetus]

Apparently the distances are too small for us to measure, visible light or not! Sorry I don't make the rules!

[APDurrant]

@perfacetus

Fair enough, I await improvements in technology to allow us to do so.

[APDurrant]

@perfacetus

In your 2nd paragraph, essentially, you are making pascal's wager. Which is bollocks. Without any evidence you can know nothing of god or gods, which god or gods you should pick, or what they want you to do or not do, so why should be have any basis for belief?

What on earth do you mean by a religious context? The Mythology of my desert Dwelling ancestors? The search for philosophical truth's? an Avoidance of reality?

[perfacetus]

Well shall we put it this way:

the evidence I have for Christianity was written 2000 years ago (the Judeo part even longer than that) at it is still valid to me today.

Science, while respectable, admiable and generally desirable changes its mind every five minutes, so I know why one seems more logical as a basis for things eternal.

[APDurrant]

@perfacetus

Because humanity foolishly values false certainty over honest doubt?

Admitting you don't know is a major problem for the religious and PhD's :) And, If I'm honest, most everyone dosn't like to admit that they don't know, and probably won't in our life time.