Gracie Insider - Gracie Combatives for Law Enforcement

[chizokage]

Taking a fight to the ground is not a good idea in a real world scenario though let alone the fact that the world outside in not an arena with a referee. Put a kimura on a guy and have him stick a knife in your ribs see how well that goes, or grapple with a guy who is not above biting you. Unless police are only keeping nice clean suburban areas safe, oh wait...

[mtyd05]

@onetao8 that's only if the dude knows what he's doing. Most thugs don't know what the hell to do on the ground but keep striking.

[onetao8]

Skinny dude is wrong if your skinny striking will give you more of a chance of defending yourself before a big dude gets a hold of you. Grappling or wrestling with someone bigger and stronger than you sucks, you get dominated. In other words a small guy CAN knock out a big dude but you will rarely see a tiny dude out wrestle a big guy unless there is a HUGE skill difference . I understand cops are not supposed to strike.

PS. i do bjj myself and i love it

[AceofDlamonds]

@onetao8

r u insane? you don't trade blows with a much larger/stronger opponent....you will likely get pummeled unless you're insanely special. grappling and clinching with a larger opponent is safer as long as you know your next move......with BJJ, you don't need a huge skill difference like you see in wrestling/boxing,...etc.

[MrMZaccone]

@onetao8 You're nuts. By the way, that Skinny Dude ... is a chick.

[Cab0408]

(cont) Also, what about weapon retention on the ground, multiple attackers, rolling with an armed attacker? Too many variables. Not knocking the system, im genuinely curious if these things are covered. Sometime it's necessasary to strike with the hands, and striking is taught in police academies. Can anyone who's been through the program tell me if they cover some of the things i've mentioned?

[aalberto3750]

Hey Cab, I enjoyed reading your comments. If you haven't gone to the class, then go. I did and I'm better for it. I'm a big man and I have no problems w/ the techniques. Nothing is perfect, but out of the several schools I've attended for LE, this is the best. It's for everyone. Yes, big/small/short/tall.

[jerseyassasin1975]

you ask some questions that I am waiting to hear answers for since I fight in competition but I do not use bjj in "real fight" situations. I mean no one will bite me, grab 2 of my fingers or use any small joint manipulation, kick me in the nuts, have a weapon, or even grab the inside of my gi certain ways, but on the street if your a cop anything can happen. I am not a cop but I am interested to hear if any of the cops have an opinion on these things.

[UTBaller22]

Gracie Jiu Jitsu covers striking, it also covers multiple attackers... Do you forget law enforcement has weapons for multiple attackers. They have a club and a gun.

[Cab0408]

Use of closed guard, sweeps, mount escape shrimping etc. can work for law enforcement; RNC, standing armlocks, as well. But is it really smart to go for double leg takedowns and subs from the bottom? Police wear a lot of equipment on their belts. Are triangles recommended? What if you arent flexible enough?

[deemon16]

@Cab0408

The triangle relies on flexibility as much as any other technique which is basically saying that anyone can do it...

it's more of if you want a cramp or not while rolling and the extra flexibility makes it so much easier.

When I first learned the triangle I NEVER stretched on my own but I was able to pull it off.

Now, that I stretch like 10 times a day everyday the Triangle is one of my best submission and I can transition to another personal favorite, omoplata, if i wanted too.

[basedeal]

Awsome keep up the good work, hats off to law enforcement, military etc...