Xemnas/Roxas Comparison to Terra/Ven

[MrTgusta]

he's talking about both Sora and Ven. just my opinion

[0scipio089]

Just realized that since terranort became a nobody of someone with two hearts, xemnas isn't entierly certain about who he is, so he's pursuing the goals of both terra and xehanort (finding ven & aqua, & claiming kh).

[TheFlurryOfLight]

I think 1:27 - 1:56 are some where in KH3 since their in kh2 Radiant Garden,not the one in BBS. After all,Sora has to save all the main characters from death and darkness and what not.

[damax1243]

ive never seen this part with terra and Ventus

[LOLHIYA00]

Sephirothrikusora I am answering you question

It a freaking trailer

[noxus158]

@sephirothrikusora its actuly froma scene they took out in bbs durring first poduction sorry c4rc4r your wrong

[sephirothrikusora]

OMG, i played birth by sleep. I unveiled all the secrets........I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS SCENE! What is this scene? How come i didnt see this scene? 

[c4rc4r]

@sephirothrikusora this is 382/2 days

[TheAnimefreak1122]

He mouthed ventus soo many bbs references GRRR!!

[LinkofTimeX]

Ve - n - tu - su

Xemnas called Roxas Ventus.

[babybull955]

it looks like he mouthed the word Ven, check it out n see if im right

[coolaken]

what did xemnas whisper to roxas

[Midflame222]

the translations suck i compared it to my US version alot of sentances messed up

[Axadn]

@Midflame222 Anyone who knows anything about localizing a game would understand that companies do NOT translate the speech directly. They change the sentences and words around so that it matches the way the lips move. Also, many things normal to say in Japanese would sound awkward or stange in English. Fansubs are usually more acurate then dubs, since dubs change the speech to match the lips.

[Jaegar19Ultima]

@Axadn You're forgetting that by comparision in localized games these days the popular ones that get international english releases are tweaked so the lip movements directly match the language. That aside you're right about the shift from japanese speech quirks . I never could understand this supposed popular notion of wanting to listen to country of origin audio rather than being creative about bringing foriegn content into other cultures. And the whole deal with duel audio tracks gamers want

[F3ll0wR3j3ct]

@TheRPGPlayer lol yeah

[Bowsakirby]

0.0 OH yea! the shoulder thing! Nice find! =D

[Takeristhebest]

SPOILER:

Here is the thing. If Xemnas doesn't at least contain more Terra than his Heartless, why did he pat Roxas on the shoulder? If he was only Xehanort he would not have acted as friendly.

[ethan120494]

@Takeristhebest i agree.. terra has some influence on xemnas

[Takeristhebest]

@ethan120494 He also mentions Roxas having sleep take him away before in Days. When he goes in a coma because of Sora going to sleep for a year. Xemnas is in his room and says that.

[soraandven]

xemnas is terra xemnas took terra's form its the same as ven being roxas

[Darkgears]

@soraandven Nope Xenhornot Took terras body thts why xemnas is A badass Cmon Son Have you Seen the terra Boss and i knoe this cause i beat Birth by sleep :D

[sk8terbeginner91]

@Darkgears i did idoitas

[Darkgears]

@sk8terbeginner91 yeah know need to call me A Idoitas W.e that may be

[sk8terbeginner91]

@soraandven sora is ven =roxas is ven master xehanort - terras heart = xehanort

xehanort dies = ansem=xemnas

terras heart put in the engnatimic wat ever soldier or lingering sediment

ven gave his heart to sora at the end of bbs=sora is ven=roxas is ven

and ven is asleep inside castle oblivion in bbs

[Midflame222]

@sk8terbeginner91 ROXAS ISINT VEN NOOB he took on his appearance when *SPOILER*........ VEN CAME INTO SORA...... then 10 years later sora sacrificed himself for kairi and thus roxas was created with the appearance of Ventus

[Alightwithin09]

this is one if my fave parts in 358/2 days^^

[blacklight324337]

I think Xemnas was trying to use the artificial Kingdom-Hearts to recreate a world with him and his past friends Aqua and Ven.

He just didnt want his Heart. Xemnas is truley Terra's nobody. But like Roxas and Namine he may have had a part of his Heart with him due to his encounter with Aqua's armor. Terra's heartless Ansem Seeker of Darkness was being controlled by Master of Xahanort. Xemnas was the closest thing to the true Terra.

[kirenriren5411]

Well terra THINKS hes xehanort cuz he lost his memory. 2 look at the hairstyle..

and i think Ven kinda created nobodys by losing his heart to sora

D: dont scream at my theory

im just thinking

[TwilightChaser37]

that part of BBS was totally scrapped cuz they added Land of Departure.

THANK GOODNESS!!! *phew* ^^;

[GarnetsSinfulMelody]

Terra turned into xenmas

and ven is a part of roxas

since he went into sleep inside sora's heart

[yugi304]

It's obvious he had feelings he even had some when he recognized his old friend Aqua's armour lol............

[MrSuperTeenGohan]

also, in 358/2, when roxas goes into a coma, xemnas says, "it would seem sleep has taken you yet again my friend". i think that ven is sleeping in something like "the room of awakening" (i think thats the name) just like aqua. so maybe

after the fight ,with master xehanort terra ,put ven there to sleep and when roxas went to coma its the same thing

[Hampsome]

but when he said that wouldnt that mean like since roxas is a vise versa of ven and xemnas is a vise versa of terra/xehanort and ven went to sleep wouldnt he be referring back to when he was the terra/xehanort since nobdies remember their former selves lives but how is there is ansem and xemnas who is who these are questions that need to answered cuz i have many theories and they are all confusing

[namine54321]

Eeee so many therories! Thier all so good too :DDD

But i doubt any are right...Namora wouldnt make it that obvious right? He never does.

[Emericaskaterx]

This scene occurs when roxas is in coma... Im for that master xehanort/terra  theory ... I think this is the last bit of terra speaking to ven his old friend .

[masterchiefspartan17]

if xemnas is terra/xehanort's nobody, wouldn't he be able to summon a keyblade like roxas did because of sora?

[Emericaskaterx]

@masterchiefspartan17

You can forget how to weild a keyblade.

When roxas was in Digital twilight town Roxas was'nt able to summon the keyblade at will cause he forgot how.

[masterchiefspartan17]

but later he did by instinct, wouldn't xemnas be able to summon it by instinct instead of summoning those two swords

[Emericaskaterx]

@masterchiefspartan17

I really don't know.

If xemnas is really Terra he dos'nt remember who he was fully just listen to him

"an empty shell... No maybe this is my original apperance?"

Ansem seeker of darkness (xehanorts heartless) has the same clothes as Master xehanort.

Xemnas (ansems nobody) has Terras apperance... Imo this scene is whats left of Terra inside of xemnas Reaching out to Roxas/Ven Xemnas seems kind and diffrent the usual in this scene

[dragonssmith]

@mastercheifspartan17 no he wouldent because those who submit to darkness are not allowd to weild the keyblade. the keyblade is a vessel of light

[Insignia]

the keyblade itself is an instrument of the heart. Whether it be used for light or darkness is up to the wielder. A wielder could bring prosperity using the strength of the keyblade or bring ruin with the power of the keyblade. But, orientation defines perspective and perspective is reality. It was the lure of the light that opened the gates of darkness in the hearts of man.

[F3ll0wR3j3ct]

@Insignia Have you been taking kh shrooms? that was brilliant

[Insignia]

@F3ll0wR3j3ct Not really, I just really..."get" KH :D

[F3ll0wR3j3ct]

@Insignia Then you must be yen sid XD

[P0tatoPotato]

@Insignia I also get it, I have to explain it to people all the time O.O lol it's fairly easy once you know everything about KH. I have read almost every single article on KH Wiki, it takes a long time but to understand the new games, you have to understand the old games and their characters.

[F3liX75]

0.0

Maybe Ven was "erased" (he said he wanted to be in one of the trailers) to Sora's heart so whenever Sora loses his heart will reborn Ven with the name Roxas??

Ugh soo confusing, cant wait for BBS

[kexim08]

i think terra somehow combines with master xehanort and forms the apprentice xehanort,

[AyuSora]

Woah, dude, theory. Is Terra the Xehanort we know? He could have stolen Master Xehanort's name, similar to him stealing Ansem's name! :O

Dude!

[amitamaru]

in KH2's Ansem Reports, DiZ said Xehanort couldn't remember his past, only his name. It could be that a fight with Master Xehanort cost him his memory, only remembering the name of his enemy.

[AyuSora]

That makes sense

[justintime0185]

Wow. That must be true, actually. If it wasn't the case then it wouldn't of been so dramatically done. Plus it wouldn't of censored out the name. I mean, everyone knows that Roxas is Sora's nobody. Its no secret. So, when ever he said, 'he looks a lot like you' He was implying about Ven seeing as roxas and sora don't really look all that simalure. Only a little bit.

[shitpickleX]

I would't really say there is much of a connection.

the only thing they do is giving a clap on the shoulder which is a very commen thing :(

yea yea i know i'm gonna get a lot of downs for this, I just think i doesn't make sense

[project0omega]

you didnt get downed at all

[kevina56]

lol,I was wrong ven isnt roxas,roxas just took over ven's body when he got controled

[truepandatm]

Thank you so much. I finally have something to help prove my theory.

You noticed something that I overlooked.

[dreamkey2446]

dude,xemnas just said sora

when he touched his shoulder

[ryanownyou202]

VEN COULD BE SORA'S UNBIRTH

[Adventuredeath1]

How did you come up with that theory ryanownynou202?

[ryanownyou202]

well i heard a lot of theories about BBS and i they had a lot of facts that supported their theories so after hours and days doing research and look at theories and facts and time line of the story i came up with a couple of theories and still look for updates and facts but in the end i came up with a theory and theirs some facts and detail behind it to support it

First I'll show you a detail look at this video and the begging of the

KINGDOM HEARTS BIRTH BY SLEEP - JUMP FESTA 2008 TRAILER

[SekaiNoMu]

lol, Axel's Nobody is named Lea. This was proven in 358/2 Days--Saix called him that.

[Spazzboy911]

Axel is a Nobody, his Other was named Lea

[SekaiNoMu]

Oh, yeah, I know that, lol. I got it backwards xD I suck.

[Videogamefreak44]

lol I know that was cool to finally figure out, he pronounced it like (Lee) right? ^^

[SonGoku7788]

what is an unbirth exactly?

[AyuSora]

Unversed. They are those that don't do well with existence, sometimes created from negative emotions

[SonGoku7788]

You mean like demons?

[AyuSora]

What do you mean "like demons"?

[Hampsome]

i thought  they were created when vanitas was created

[caiomelow]

Btw, who makes Terra and Ven's voices?

[caiomelow]

Wow! Just now I realized that xemnas is ansem's nobody: emnas nemas menas manes names samen seman senam sanem mesan masen nasem nesam ansem!!

[DaisukeKenSama]

He's actually Xehanort's Nobody. He just took Ansem's name to use as his anagram.

[MegaKirb17]

also xemnas if you change it around its

Mansex

[izzazalexander]

not mansex

SEXMAN

XD

[MegaKirb17]

that works too i guess

[izzazalexander]

we found that out years ago

[TobiusMcKenzie]

O.O

My heart just dropped...

Xemnas has HIDDEN FEELINGS (well, most probably memories of feelings...as he is a nobody)

[RoxasRocksXIII]

hahahahahaaa :D

this was funny, i thought Xemnas said "call me" to roxas when he said sora XD

[stabbyku]

lol I can totally see that.

Xemnas: Call me, babeh!

[PACMANnot]

OMFG 8D they're twins who knew!? lol jk

[Zakuru12]

thanks!

[hyro016]

omg

now ill never no!!!!!!!!!

[DChiuch]

Hey Olivia, nice video. Just so you know, I was planning to render this is much higher quality once I've completed the playthrough.

[Zakuru12]

what did Xemnas say...?

[200160090]

I think he said Sora....not Thanx Ven

[Leekaara]

That's a cool idea and connection, but I think that gesture is just a common thing to do.

[bokwa11t12]

i dont think itmeans anything. they just did something anyone would do.

[Zakuru12]

that was so cool....

*hugs Xemnas*

[Lulexiaa]

MY GOD!!!!!! THATS FREAKING AMAZINGG!!!!!!!

And.. if Terra's hair was like 5 inches longer.. it can look like Xemnas's... (im no sure bout that..) i fail that theories..

[pokemongivesseizures]

I believe that Terra is Ansem's assistant AKA Xemnas cos apparently at the end of BBS the only thing he remembers is the name Xehanort. So I think he took that name and became Ansem's assistant and bada bing bada boom! XD

[Lulexiaa]

end of BBS?? the game didnt come out yet... xD

[pokemongivesseizures]

Yeah but I heard rumors and stuff in magazine scans XDD

[Narutohi65]

alsome what did he whisoer

[L4t1nPr1d3]

nomura wouldnt've put that for no reason it must mean

something

ansem=terra

or vice versa

[xxjeezlouisxx]

its funny when the Comparison starts it slows down...

weird right?...

[ZehZebraZach]

What did Xemnas whisper?

[b4ngk0k]

I KNEW IT!! BSAKFNA!!

[b4ngk0k]

How crazy would it be if he said "Thank you, ven" at the end of the first clip...