@hojima national socialism is still socialism considering that the nazi government completely nationalized everything from businesses to healthcare and schools.
@hojima Hitler hated COMMUNISM. Hitler, or at least National Socialism, rejected class conflict-based socialism which was the primary ideology of communism. National Socialism believes in racial/national solidarity. Class is irrelevant. Private property is allowed but it should advance the nation's economic goals rather than self-interest. Everything's still centralized which is the main idea of socialism.
@hojima Genocide is an issue which is entirely different from a political belief/ideology. social welfare is associated with socialism, yes, which is what the nazi germans did during their tenure. they advocated a welfare state for the Aryan people (Germans)
@andrewsanders1984 ........... There is right-wing Socialism, you know? The Nazis allowed right-wing practices such as the private ownership of land and businesses. They were as any Nationalist country has ever been (in the most classic, Greek sense of the word) and practiced enough social control over the economy to prevent corporations from infringing upon the private sector, e.g., Wal-Mart running mom-and-pop stores out of town.
ATTENTION IDIOTS: I merely wanted to point out that Walter was talking about Nazism not socialism in this scene, it's not an invitation to start discussing with me the similarities and differences, fuck off because I don't give a shit about that ok?
@horsedoctorman SO in other words you have regional standpoint on socialism, since you wish not to discuss it on any level. You are like an fundamentalist Christian. Fucking great :).
@markkuwerkko Poor lonely sad fucker, wants to discuss politics on Youtube with his poor grasp of English ("regional standpoint on socialism" isn't an expression in English, I'd stick to speaking your subhuman goblin language). If it wasn't for Marxism-Leninism overthrowing the Tsars Finland would not have won independence, how does that make you feel? P.S. FUCK OFF
@horsedoctorman And here you go, fucking imperialist American asswipe, being all socialist while living in the most capitalist piece of shit county in existence. The computer you are using to spew that garbage is MADE by capitalists.
How does it feel to resort in racism this soon? Huh? You should be the liberal one, and here you go all apeshit because i invented one word. I'd like to see you write Finnish.
P.S Go and at least try to live in Marxist society assclown.
@markkuwerkko lmao I'm not American and I wasn't motivated by anything more than wanting to write something that I KNEW would make you mad and flip out. Have a great day.
@horsedoctorman You insinuate i was mad at some point. I'd like to remind that it was you who resorted to racism :). So stop having sex with those birds you are filming, and take it easy!
@markkuwerkko Remember when I made you mad and you made a berzerk irrational reply calling me an "American imperialist" and a "socialist" and a "racist" all at the same time? That was pretty cool
@horsedoctorman As i told to OiOlli few pages back, "True, and thus i'd like to point out that i was talking from theoretical basis e.g what is Nazism in Hegelian context. But what you are saying is true."
Yet you haven't posted your own perception, nor given any valid counter-arguments. Your first reply was even "shut the fuck up". That's the problem, no poignant discussion.
@markkuwerkko What the hell are you talking about? All I have done is brought attention to an objective fact: that Walter is speaking of Nazism, not "socialism". Why is it required that I should I post my "own perception" or "counter arguments"? Because you demand it? How many times must I make it clear I am not interested in a completely irrelevant discussion (that I am quite sure neither of us will learn anything from)? Are you insane? Are you ever going to let this go?
@horsedoctorman Yeah you have brought an irrelevant shit, which no one was claiming, into discussion. I said Nazism is socialism, which it IS on theoretical, and also on some degree actual basis. You commented on this "shut the fuck up" which can only be understood as disagreement of some sort. Plus your defamation of Finnish language and Finnish people has let to suggest that you have something to prove. If that's not the case, ill stop this madness. You should calm down and post rationally!
@markkuwerkko "Shut the fuck up" in English means go away, I don't care what you have to say. Hostility was due to your failure to understand this. I have no particular interest in Nazis, Finns, or socialists of whatever kind. To be charitable I will put this whole misunderstanding down to English not being your first language. However I still believe my request (post beginning ATTENTION IDIOTS) was perfectly reasonable. Happy now?
@horsedoctorman Ah, so it's my fault now. How clever. You could have avoided this whole mess by saying " Would you be quiet/shut up, i have no interest to discuss this trivial matter" rather than resorting to vulgarity and racism.
But very well, i am subhuman who cant speak English and you have an anger management issues. Yes, i'm happy.
@markkuwerkko That is exactly what I did say at the start. Here is what I posted "ATTENTION IDIOTS: I merely wanted to point out that Walter was talking about Nazism not socialism in this scene, it's not an invitation to start discussing with me the similarities and differences, fuck off because I don't give a shit about that ok?". How can that be any more clear? You are an extremely stupid person. FUCK OFF
@horsedoctorman Yeah it was, considering i did it AFTER you called my mothertongue "subhuman goblin language" and called me an lonely sad fucker. Yeah, you are an epitome of political correctness.
@horsedoctorman I wasn't discussing how truth your insults were, they just clearly implied that it was you who started the defamation, and thus will make you the original "Berzerk irrational". I was merely adapting.
@markkuwerkko You utter fucking moron. YOU started this by attempting to start a discussion I have no interest in. I told you to go away, but - and this is the part which demonstrated you are worthy of nobody's respect - you persisted. WHY can't you understand this? Why can't you understand what an obnoxious piece of shit you are?
@markkuwerkko It's not even true that it was I who started the defamation, you likened me to a "fundamentalist Christian" before anything else. Fuck off and stop harrassing me you imbecile
@horsedoctorman And yet you keep posting :D. Has it even occurred to you that you can just quit with the racist crap, riddled with swearing and other bullshit? That way, both of us can move on. But no, fucking moron, you just have to show yourself being just as "worthless" as i am by staying here and throwing shit.
@markkuwerkko That's just trolling - that doesn't bother me and is easy to ignore. What is bothersome is that you operate from a disturbing delusion that anyone who doesn't want to have a discussion with you is like a "fundamentalist Christian" - this is why I want you to face up to your behaviour and not inflict it on any other people in the future
@horsedoctorman No, i operate from the fact that since the beginning of our little conversation, you said "shut the fuck up" instead of offering any kind of proof or argument. That makes you an fundamentalist on this part, at least.
I once took a class called the "Origins and Development of Fascism." When the professor described the Nazi philosophy one really rooted in primal fears rather than a coherent philosophy, I used this line. After he refuted my point I said "Yeah..well thats just like...your opinion man..." I was then thrown out of the class. Very undude.
@conraddoavil no difference which is why Hitler espoused eugenics and racial purity (something no socialist believes in), constantly railed against "the Jewish swindle" of Marxism/communism etc etc.
@horsedoctorman Well national socialism IS socialism, it adds racial subject onto dialectical materialism, still retaining fundamental similarities to socialism. Fascism is completely different though.
Die nenne ich dir aber nur in Deutsch. 1. Die Privatwirtschaft blieb erhalten selbst die Rüstungsindustrie blieb in den meisten Fällen in privater Hand. Selbst jüdische Firmen wurden in den seltensten Fällen verstaatlicht. 2. Auch der Privatbesitz blieb erhalten. 3. Keine bzw kaum Planwirtschaft.
@OiOlli83 True, Keynesian politics were implemented on some degree. I do not understand German that well, but i assume you meant that Nazi economics were different from socialist ones.
True, and thus i'd like to point out that i was talking from theoretical basis e.g what is Nazism in Hegelian context. But what you are saying is true.
The final word on Nihilism, in my book.
neosoc 4 days ago
They were threatening castration, Donny!
HammarHeart 1 week ago
They were Nazi's Walter?
tlv156 1 week ago
National socialism or socialism. Either way, its very undude.
texasB666 2 weeks ago
i think walter's character is kinda based on like a MIchael Savage.
AwWDesignZ 2 months ago
something tells me the people who "get this' are like me when I "got it" about say takemitsu and "a way a lone". Delicious
EMPERORMIKI 4 months ago
In Soviet Russia, Donnie shuts the fuck up!
LHP201 4 months ago
Nazi is short for national socialist. National socialism is not socialism, it is a form of facism masquerading as a populist type of socialism.
hojima 4 months ago 8
@hojima national socialism is still socialism considering that the nazi government completely nationalized everything from businesses to healthcare and schools.
marcsman229 1 week ago
@marcsman229 Except that fascism and socialism are incompatible. Hitler hated the socialists.
hojima 1 week ago
@hojima Hitler hated COMMUNISM. Hitler, or at least National Socialism, rejected class conflict-based socialism which was the primary ideology of communism. National Socialism believes in racial/national solidarity. Class is irrelevant. Private property is allowed but it should advance the nation's economic goals rather than self-interest. Everything's still centralized which is the main idea of socialism.
marcsman229 1 week ago
@marcsman229 Wasnt the main idea of socialism social welfare? Hurp de durp. Genocide is incompatible with socialism.
hojima 1 week ago
@hojima Genocide is an issue which is entirely different from a political belief/ideology. social welfare is associated with socialism, yes, which is what the nazi germans did during their tenure. they advocated a welfare state for the Aryan people (Germans)
marcsman229 1 week ago
This video really tied the room together.
gazzwa 4 months ago
Oh my god you people are so stupid. National socialism is naziism. How fucking uneducated are you americans?
hojima 4 months ago
@hojima you are sort of missing the point of the whole video
ajgolfer1 4 months ago
@ajgolfer1 I was replying to the people who didnt get that they were making a joke about naziism.... jesus christ. reading comprehension, get it.
hojima 4 months ago
@hojima Uh.....aren't you American?
CoolerKing37 4 months ago
@CoolerKing37 Obviously not? People speak english outside of america.
hojima 4 months ago
@hojima Then why did you lie on your YouTube profile?
CoolerKing37 4 months ago
@CoolerKing37 I honestly dont remember setting it as that, and I probably just left it as default when I signed up.
hojima 4 months ago
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shulizim 5 months ago
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shulizim 5 months ago
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shulizim 5 months ago
also let not forget ..dude ..that keeping wildlife...um... an amphibious rodent..for domestic..or...wirthin the city limits...that aint legal either
bamboneski 5 months ago 2
@bamboneski What are you, a fucking park ranger now?!
texasB666 2 weeks ago
National Socialism = Nazism via Adolf Hitler
Socialism = The step before Communism via Karl Marx
Are you stupid?
andrewsanders1984 5 months ago 48
@andrewsanders1984 its socialism with nationalist goals, right?
sniperquasi 5 months ago
@sniperquasi a very fascist/authoritarian form of socialism
mrBMB01 4 months ago
@andrewsanders1984
You have different types of socialism.
CollectivePreference 1 month ago
@andrewsanders1984 ........... There is right-wing Socialism, you know? The Nazis allowed right-wing practices such as the private ownership of land and businesses. They were as any Nationalist country has ever been (in the most classic, Greek sense of the word) and practiced enough social control over the economy to prevent corporations from infringing upon the private sector, e.g., Wal-Mart running mom-and-pop stores out of town.
Nationalist828 1 month ago
ATTENTION IDIOTS: I merely wanted to point out that Walter was talking about Nazism not socialism in this scene, it's not an invitation to start discussing with me the similarities and differences, fuck off because I don't give a shit about that ok?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman SO in other words you have regional standpoint on socialism, since you wish not to discuss it on any level. You are like an fundamentalist Christian. Fucking great :).
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko maybe I'm just not interested in discussing it on a Big Lebowski on Youtube you fucking retard
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman If i am an retard and still can discuss my ideals, what the hell are you? Lol
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko how many ways can I say "fuck off" before you understand it?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Try 72 times.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Under what political ideology is it a good thing to obsessively harrass people?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Marxism-Leninism.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Nazism isn't the same as Socialism you stupid piece of shit
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Enough similarities horsecock.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Poor lonely sad fucker, wants to discuss politics on Youtube with his poor grasp of English ("regional standpoint on socialism" isn't an expression in English, I'd stick to speaking your subhuman goblin language). If it wasn't for Marxism-Leninism overthrowing the Tsars Finland would not have won independence, how does that make you feel? P.S. FUCK OFF
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman And here you go, fucking imperialist American asswipe, being all socialist while living in the most capitalist piece of shit county in existence. The computer you are using to spew that garbage is MADE by capitalists.
How does it feel to resort in racism this soon? Huh? You should be the liberal one, and here you go all apeshit because i invented one word. I'd like to see you write Finnish.
P.S Go and at least try to live in Marxist society assclown.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko lmao I'm not American and I wasn't motivated by anything more than wanting to write something that I KNEW would make you mad and flip out. Have a great day.
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman You insinuate i was mad at some point. I'd like to remind that it was you who resorted to racism :). So stop having sex with those birds you are filming, and take it easy!
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko looooooooooooooooooool
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Finnish people are basically 100% negroid.
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Mr.Racist strikes again :D.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Please help, I am being Racisted against. Mods???
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Yeah yeah let the butthurt flow through you.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Go away you Marxist-Leninist stalker weirdo. Jesus Christ
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Christ wont help you if you keep fucking those ducks :). BESTIALITY.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Remember when I made you mad and you made a berzerk irrational reply calling me an "American imperialist" and a "socialist" and a "racist" all at the same time? That was pretty cool
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman As i told to OiOlli few pages back, "True, and thus i'd like to point out that i was talking from theoretical basis e.g what is Nazism in Hegelian context. But what you are saying is true."
Yet you haven't posted your own perception, nor given any valid counter-arguments. Your first reply was even "shut the fuck up". That's the problem, no poignant discussion.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko What the hell are you talking about? All I have done is brought attention to an objective fact: that Walter is speaking of Nazism, not "socialism". Why is it required that I should I post my "own perception" or "counter arguments"? Because you demand it? How many times must I make it clear I am not interested in a completely irrelevant discussion (that I am quite sure neither of us will learn anything from)? Are you insane? Are you ever going to let this go?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Yeah you have brought an irrelevant shit, which no one was claiming, into discussion. I said Nazism is socialism, which it IS on theoretical, and also on some degree actual basis. You commented on this "shut the fuck up" which can only be understood as disagreement of some sort. Plus your defamation of Finnish language and Finnish people has let to suggest that you have something to prove. If that's not the case, ill stop this madness. You should calm down and post rationally!
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko "Shut the fuck up" in English means go away, I don't care what you have to say. Hostility was due to your failure to understand this. I have no particular interest in Nazis, Finns, or socialists of whatever kind. To be charitable I will put this whole misunderstanding down to English not being your first language. However I still believe my request (post beginning ATTENTION IDIOTS) was perfectly reasonable. Happy now?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Ah, so it's my fault now. How clever. You could have avoided this whole mess by saying " Would you be quiet/shut up, i have no interest to discuss this trivial matter" rather than resorting to vulgarity and racism.
But very well, i am subhuman who cant speak English and you have an anger management issues. Yes, i'm happy.
markkuwerkko 5 months ago
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@markkuwerkko That is exactly what I did say at the start. Here is what I posted "ATTENTION IDIOTS: I merely wanted to point out that Walter was talking about Nazism not socialism in this scene, it's not an invitation to start discussing with me the similarities and differences, fuck off because I don't give a shit about that ok?". How can that be any more clear? You are an extremely stupid person. FUCK OFF
horsedoctorman 5 months ago
@horsedoctorman Yeah it was, considering i did it AFTER you called my mothertongue "subhuman goblin language" and called me an lonely sad fucker. Yeah, you are an epitome of political correctness.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko Both of those are true though? I don't get what you're driving at
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman I wasn't discussing how truth your insults were, they just clearly implied that it was you who started the defamation, and thus will make you the original "Berzerk irrational". I was merely adapting.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko You utter fucking moron. YOU started this by attempting to start a discussion I have no interest in. I told you to go away, but - and this is the part which demonstrated you are worthy of nobody's respect - you persisted. WHY can't you understand this? Why can't you understand what an obnoxious piece of shit you are?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
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horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko It's not even true that it was I who started the defamation, you likened me to a "fundamentalist Christian" before anything else. Fuck off and stop harrassing me you imbecile
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman And yet you keep posting :D. Has it even occurred to you that you can just quit with the racist crap, riddled with swearing and other bullshit? That way, both of us can move on. But no, fucking moron, you just have to show yourself being just as "worthless" as i am by staying here and throwing shit.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko What you are doing is harrassment. I want you to stop doing this kind of thing, not only for my sake, but for the rest of the world.
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman It's harassment, not "harrassment" lol :D.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko That's just trolling - that doesn't bother me and is easy to ignore. What is bothersome is that you operate from a disturbing delusion that anyone who doesn't want to have a discussion with you is like a "fundamentalist Christian" - this is why I want you to face up to your behaviour and not inflict it on any other people in the future
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman No, i operate from the fact that since the beginning of our little conversation, you said "shut the fuck up" instead of offering any kind of proof or argument. That makes you an fundamentalist on this part, at least.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko No, it doesn't. Walter is specifically talking about Nazism - end of story. No "proof or argument" required.
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman National Socialism=Nazism. What are you implying?
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko That?
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
I once took a class called the "Origins and Development of Fascism." When the professor described the Nazi philosophy one really rooted in primal fears rather than a coherent philosophy, I used this line. After he refuted my point I said "Yeah..well thats just like...your opinion man..." I was then thrown out of the class. Very undude.
jkfp2004 6 months ago 81
@jkfp2004 8 year olds, dude.
bobdy9988 4 months ago
@3ohfive there not you fool!
conraddoavil 7 months ago
Dude's reaction cracks me up.
b00mhauer 7 months ago
Say what you want about the tenets Radical Islam dude, at least it's an ethos.
haydencantact 7 months ago
At least it's an ethos...
NihilSubSole 7 months ago
clearly the one person who disliked this is a nihilist
LHSjl89 7 months ago
@LHSjl89 Yeah, what a coward.
funktapus 6 months ago
At least its what ?
14Srb88 7 months ago
just look at donny the whole time
kinetik44 8 months ago
I love this scene.
92RedRevolver 9 months ago
what? :L
RodionRUSDUB 10 months ago
Best line in the movie.
Azakhiel 11 months ago
No, on NATIONAL socialism i.e. nazionalsozialismus, NAZI for short.
poisonandantidote 1 year ago
he's talking about national socialism not socialism...
horsedoctorman 1 year ago 31
@horsedoctorman ...and exactly what are the differences? write a five page essay.
henessyalan 9 months ago
@henessyalan it's a clip from the big lebowski dude. fuck off eh
horsedoctorman 9 months ago
@henessyalan One's right-wing, the other's left.
CoolerKing37 8 months ago 2
@henessyalan you've obviously failed basic world history, national socialism is nazism. immensely more radical than socialism. read a book.
rockbigmoney2 8 months ago
@henessyalan History fail.
Azakhiel 8 months ago
@henessyalan #EPIC history fail
ionutthedog 8 months ago
@horsedoctorman we'll thats just like your opinion man
wmarcus1203 7 months ago
@horsedoctorman yea cuz theres a HUGE difference!
conraddoavil 7 months ago
@conraddoavil please tell me more, I'm sure someone who subscribes to the Alex Jones channel is very educated on history and politics lololololol
horsedoctorman 7 months ago
@horsedoctorman well i will give you that, the man is an absolute fool, but theres no fucking difference
conraddoavil 7 months ago
@conraddoavil no difference which is why Hitler espoused eugenics and racial purity (something no socialist believes in), constantly railed against "the Jewish swindle" of Marxism/communism etc etc.
horsedoctorman 7 months ago
@horsedoctorman well they both believe you should spread your wealth, any socialist can belive in that stupid bullshit the nazis believed in
conraddoavil 7 months ago
@conraddoavil ...except they don't
horsedoctorman 7 months ago
@horsedoctorman Well national socialism IS socialism, it adds racial subject onto dialectical materialism, still retaining fundamental similarities to socialism. Fascism is completely different though.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko shut the fuck up
horsedoctorman 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko
No it isn´t.
Or said in german: Wenn man keine Ahnung hat Fresse halten.
OiOlli83 6 months ago
@OiOlli83 And arguments?
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko
Here are my Arguments. In German.
Die nenne ich dir aber nur in Deutsch. 1. Die Privatwirtschaft blieb erhalten selbst die Rüstungsindustrie blieb in den meisten Fällen in privater Hand. Selbst jüdische Firmen wurden in den seltensten Fällen verstaatlicht. 2. Auch der Privatbesitz blieb erhalten. 3. Keine bzw kaum Planwirtschaft.
OiOlli83 6 months ago
@OiOlli83 True, Keynesian politics were implemented on some degree. I do not understand German that well, but i assume you meant that Nazi economics were different from socialist ones.
True, and thus i'd like to point out that i was talking from theoretical basis e.g what is Nazism in Hegelian context. But what you are saying is true.
markkuwerkko 6 months ago
@markkuwerkko
Ok tjhan it was a missunderstanding. My bad.
OiOlli83 6 months ago
@horsedoctorman Same sh!t, different day.
SloterMFmeyer 4 months ago
This has to be my favorite line.
HappyHappyCultists 3 years ago 14