good god that all happened so fast. I watched it again after you explained what you tried to do - esp.the bit on using the R.rear riser and opp. toggle to flare - I just would never have thought on nearly that quick but I guess that comes from years and hundreds of jumps! Thanks for sharing this vid Danny - I remember seeing it quite a while back when I started, but didn't realise it was you! :)
That's what comes of having done a canopy piloting course, without the skills I'd learned on the course I'd be dead. I shouldn't really have gotten into that situation having done the course, but we all make mistakes....
its good that you put the text up tho in slow motion - when you watch it at normal speed you can really see how fast you have to think - the point where I was thinking 'errrrk!' was the point you had already done something about it to minimise! The point where I realised would have been way too late and I'd be dead. I'm happy with my L1 safe flight school stuff for the time being lol!
I jumped at Langar today - There have been 3 bad hook turn accidents sice Ive started jumping there. Dont know why people do it so much when its clearly so dangerous
You've answered your own question there, people are drawn to danger unfortunately. Hence people, including you, skydiving. All I can say is, stay safe! It hurts bad when you get it wrong :o) I was extremely lucky and I learned a valuable lesson!!!!
True to an extent. Personally I dont think I`ll be trying them soon but you never know I guess. I`ll tell you what though, Rich Wheatley is amazing at them isnt he!!
I didn't have any through the toggle that I dropped! hence the accident. I could explain why, but that's history. Suffice to say it wasn't and still isn't the norm. I always have my fingers through at ALL times before that jump and now. I totally agree with your comment :o)
Man, I'm ready for a canopy control course... to avoid this stuff. Thanks for posting the video WITH the comments edited in there explaining what's going on. It's a BIG help for me to know what's going through your head and what's happening in the actual shots.
Ta :o) I'd done a canopy course previous to the accident. If I hadn't I'd be dead, it gave me the tools I needed to make a fatal situation survivable :o)
Why is it that most skydiving fatalities these days occur with a fully open and flying canopy? Maybe we need to take a look at the direction the sport is going. IMO canopies are becoming too small and wingloading too high.
Perhaps. In any case, controlled flight into the ground seems to be killing a lot of people. What is driving the need for canopy performance? What is the point of wingloading >2.0 to 1? I'm not saying there is a need for regulation but maybe its time for the manufacturers to step back and take look at their product.
Dude, we live in a 'Nanny State' already. There's enough regulation as it is. I say, Live and Let Live. I agree that it's tragic, but I think we need education, not legislation :o) If you you ask any manufacturer they'll say it's nothing to do with them, it's the pilot that kills the pilot, not the canopy. The most recent accident of this type I personally saw was a lad on a Sabre 150 (Not fatal, but very nasty). Proving that it isn't the canopy size or type, just the way it's flown.
I certainly agree with your "Nanny State" analysis as I ride and race sportbikes and I'm certainly NOT calling for legislation or regulation. So, I guess to wrap this up, I completely agree that it should be the right of the individual to risk life and limb any way they see fit. HOWEVER, if I decide to start jumping a heavily wingloaded canopy, its my responsibility to myself and the sport to get as much training/coaching as possible and fly the thing responsibly. Agreed? --- BASE 18 Cheers!
dude.. I think you need to slow down. your velo 96 swoop video.. you were in the corner fairly bad, especially for a velo.. and you got all hurt up on this landing. be careful man.
Good advice :o) I did, that's how come I ain't dead now cos I was heading that way! and not just the one course. I highly recommend Brian Vacher's Safe Flight School, Chris Lynch's Wingtips course and Alex Wilson's Canopy Piloting roadshow all of which I have attended (hopefully making me a safer pilot):o). Sometimes bad things happen though dude....
Always trust your rears.
wells0321 3 months ago
good god that all happened so fast. I watched it again after you explained what you tried to do - esp.the bit on using the R.rear riser and opp. toggle to flare - I just would never have thought on nearly that quick but I guess that comes from years and hundreds of jumps! Thanks for sharing this vid Danny - I remember seeing it quite a while back when I started, but didn't realise it was you! :)
anthonymcgrath 2 years ago
That's what comes of having done a canopy piloting course, without the skills I'd learned on the course I'd be dead. I shouldn't really have gotten into that situation having done the course, but we all make mistakes....
dannyrowlands 2 years ago
its good that you put the text up tho in slow motion - when you watch it at normal speed you can really see how fast you have to think - the point where I was thinking 'errrrk!' was the point you had already done something about it to minimise! The point where I realised would have been way too late and I'd be dead. I'm happy with my L1 safe flight school stuff for the time being lol!
see yer at the DZ!!
ant (curls!)
anthonymcgrath 2 years ago
I jumped at Langar today - There have been 3 bad hook turn accidents sice Ive started jumping there. Dont know why people do it so much when its clearly so dangerous
Quacktacular 2 years ago
You've answered your own question there, people are drawn to danger unfortunately. Hence people, including you, skydiving. All I can say is, stay safe! It hurts bad when you get it wrong :o) I was extremely lucky and I learned a valuable lesson!!!!
dannyrowlands 2 years ago
True to an extent. Personally I dont think I`ll be trying them soon but you never know I guess. I`ll tell you what though, Rich Wheatley is amazing at them isnt he!!
Quacktacular 2 years ago
Thats why you dont just hold your toggles with a couple of fingers.
houseofherbie 3 years ago
I didn't have any through the toggle that I dropped! hence the accident. I could explain why, but that's history. Suffice to say it wasn't and still isn't the norm. I always have my fingers through at ALL times before that jump and now. I totally agree with your comment :o)
dannyrowlands 3 years ago
Pleased you made it out alive dude :)
houseofherbie 3 years ago
YOUCH
Man, I'm ready for a canopy control course... to avoid this stuff. Thanks for posting the video WITH the comments edited in there explaining what's going on. It's a BIG help for me to know what's going through your head and what's happening in the actual shots.
Rock on and glad you're still here!
carpetfactory 3 years ago
Ta :o) I'd done a canopy course previous to the accident. If I hadn't I'd be dead, it gave me the tools I needed to make a fatal situation survivable :o)
dannyrowlands 3 years ago
dint know you before the "crunch" but know you now. you totally are the best danny (ann berry)
dykevandyke 3 years ago
its fucking stupid!!!!
but its hella funny
RMEPs 3 years ago
Why is it that most skydiving fatalities these days occur with a fully open and flying canopy? Maybe we need to take a look at the direction the sport is going. IMO canopies are becoming too small and wingloading too high.
velocitude 4 years ago
With your opinion in mind your username is a little hypocritical.....maybe?
dannyrowlands 4 years ago
Perhaps. In any case, controlled flight into the ground seems to be killing a lot of people. What is driving the need for canopy performance? What is the point of wingloading >2.0 to 1? I'm not saying there is a need for regulation but maybe its time for the manufacturers to step back and take look at their product.
velocitude 4 years ago
Dude, we live in a 'Nanny State' already. There's enough regulation as it is. I say, Live and Let Live. I agree that it's tragic, but I think we need education, not legislation :o) If you you ask any manufacturer they'll say it's nothing to do with them, it's the pilot that kills the pilot, not the canopy. The most recent accident of this type I personally saw was a lad on a Sabre 150 (Not fatal, but very nasty). Proving that it isn't the canopy size or type, just the way it's flown.
dannyrowlands 4 years ago
I certainly agree with your "Nanny State" analysis as I ride and race sportbikes and I'm certainly NOT calling for legislation or regulation. So, I guess to wrap this up, I completely agree that it should be the right of the individual to risk life and limb any way they see fit. HOWEVER, if I decide to start jumping a heavily wingloaded canopy, its my responsibility to myself and the sport to get as much training/coaching as possible and fly the thing responsibly. Agreed? --- BASE 18 Cheers!
velocitude 4 years ago
Agreed :o)
dannyrowlands 4 years ago
dude.. I think you need to slow down. your velo 96 swoop video.. you were in the corner fairly bad, especially for a velo.. and you got all hurt up on this landing. be careful man.
closeupcorey 4 years ago
nice-well done mate
jumpmaestro 4 years ago
Good advice :o) I did, that's how come I ain't dead now cos I was heading that way! and not just the one course. I highly recommend Brian Vacher's Safe Flight School, Chris Lynch's Wingtips course and Alex Wilson's Canopy Piloting roadshow all of which I have attended (hopefully making me a safer pilot):o). Sometimes bad things happen though dude....
dannyrowlands 4 years ago
get some proffesional canopy coaching
lowpullproductions 4 years ago
wow..looks..fun?
69blair69 4 years ago
Sure he broke some bones, listen to them shatter.
Klinge2303 4 years ago
I know the feeling I broke my back like that in January, silly me though stood up and walked to my car with a burst lumbar sbine and drove 100 miles
wdwmike 4 years ago
Tit
flipper084 4 years ago
Nice one
skydivr009 5 years ago
Langar? Good work fella..
bencope82 5 years ago
did u break any bones?
Chris81292 5 years ago