@sk8erfreak9242 What did you not understand about his speech? As he explains, it is the duty of all soldiers who swore an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America to refuse all illegal an unconstitutional orders. The order to serve in Iraq is an illegal and illegitimate order which was justified by knowing lies and manipulation to serve the interests of a privileged few. Any soldier who has made it through basic training has sworn the same oath to uphold the constitution.
@sk8erfreak9242 so then following ur logic about follow order, if your superior said rape ur mother!! u rape ur mother right!!! just clearify to us please!!!
@sk8erfreak9242 hows knows!! if an autority request u something u must obey the autority even if seems ilogical to u after all who are you to question the autority?? u just must shut up and follow superior orders!!!
This man is a National hero and a true patriot for the constitution. What he does should be written in the constitution, that is, expose anyone who illegally abuses the constitution.
If they are willing to lie about the necessity of war perhaps they are willing to lie about 9-11 as well. How can we trust their "story" that it was Osama bin Laden?
They are untrustworthy. Therefore, we need investigation of 9-11. How can anyone object given the history of their lies before us? Liars lie. It's what they do.
Hilarious they manipulate inteligence, then say that they have to go to war beacuse of the inteligence they manipulated- they get the war. Then say they didn't know the inteligence was false and believed it so it's not their fault.
Question, How many did know the inteligence was false and lied and today pretend they didnt know, it was false? Besides that whatever answer they give how can you trust them? You can not!
Wash Dc is the military hq of the NWO Khazar Jews, they use US soldiers for their interest profits. They make enemies around the world then send US troops to fight innocent nations who were probably victims of false flag operations. History of US false flag ops. Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48, Spanish-American war, 1898. World War I, 1914-1918: World War 2, 1939-1945. Korean War, 1950-1953. Granada Invasion. War on Drugs. Panama invasion: US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
Well said, Israel is the only reason America is in the region.
Israel's rule is: lets force America to destroy the whole region so we can dominate it.
Let's never forget about the Zionist bombing of USS Liberty and the mass-murder of American sailors by Israel because they wanted to trick America into invading Egypt for them.
This just proves that Israel has no qualms at all about sending countless Americans to die in their wars.
@karlkarlkarl1234 There is no point with this fundamentalist, he has publicly stated on youtube that any people killed by Hamas are "of no consequence" (he also believes Hamas have not killed more than 15 people), he has also publicly stated on youtube that Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime is "something to be admired" and this is a statement made even though he knows what that regime has done to the Iranian people after it lost the election, now you understand his hate.
@dj999dominator One of the Legislature's specific powers is to declare war. War has not been declared since 1942. The "war powers resolution" of 1973 is, itself, unconstitutional. The war is also illegal, immoral, and unjust. Must I really spell it all out for you? I am really not surprised that the war is still ongoing when most kids can't name the three branches of the federal government or any supreme court justices but can give you sports details and name the all the judges on American Idol.
what ehren watada had done is something that is far more brave than any other soldier. many people would claim that he has broken a promise, but how could a man keep a promise to a country who has not held their end of the bargain? the answer is simple, he should not. it is against human right to put a life at risk PERIOD.
He is not betraying his country, but serving it by standing for the US Constitution against a war of aggression. He is a very brave and noble man. He...is the hero that you should praise.
Whether or not some people in Iraq want US soldiers there are not, the war is a war of aggression and is an illegal act.
Lt. Ehren Watada does not represent the ENTIRE Asian American community.
I'm Asian American and I would rather go off to fight the war and come home in a box then abandon my men and my country. He is a coward and is NO HERO! When you raised your right hand and vowed to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, you better damn well keep that promise.
He broke the promise and he failed to do so. Damn war deserter.
Thanks for setting the record straight. You are right. If we join the military we need to know that we are serving our country. What Lt. Watada did was dishonorable for our nation and God.
except the little coward was never in iraq or afghanistan so he doesnt know the truth about what goes on. Media lies about what goes on. We dont shoot civilians unless they shoot as us in which case they are now armed combatants. Accidents happen just as they do in every conflict in populated areas. The Iraqi people are happy were there. Ive gone on many patrols and had diner with families and they thank us for our help to make their country safe and their's once again.
hey 44 no worries mate I know you blokes are doing a fine job. My nephew is in Afghanistan at the moment. It's not you blokes that are the problem. You need to look to history and all the games that countries like the UK, USA and other european countries have been playing. You will then see how everything fits together. The facts of history not emotions on either side of the argument need to be looked at to get to the real truth. So 44 stay safe and keep fighting the good fight.
...yeah, im pretty sure their gratefull that you guys are torturing them and smashing little kids testicles infront of their parents. Go fuck yourself.
The Iraqi's are not happy with US troops being in their country dude. Malnutrition rates have gone up to 28% (19% post-war) theres 5 million kids with no parents, cholera outbreaks from the water, and acts of ethnic cleansings of the sunny islams. All cause of American intervention. Trust me, they're pretty fucking pissed off over there.
That is a wide and way too hasty statement dude. Those percentages and stats are very flawed considering it varies year by year, there were many other events that happened when the US came(along with the UN), so you really don't know why those stats are that way, and it's all speculating as to why those stats are that way.
I doubt the US affected their water...and again, you are assuming that the US did all this(though it is a war zone...it's not going to get nicer...)
They're also pissed that they're not allowed a democracy as well. You obviously haven't been to Iraq, or you would know that the general consensus of the people is to have the American troops present to help establish security and democracy. Quit talking out of your ass about a topic you know nothing about.
I got my references from wikipedia (which the references from the site even have their own references), (look up war in iraq/afghanistan) so where are your facts at? Seems like your head is stuck so far up your own ass you can see through your mouth.
First of all, this conversation wasn't directed towards you. Second, the previous facts that I've stated are common knowledge. If you don't know them to be facts then you're more dim witted than you're ignorant comments portray you to be. Third, anyone can post information on wikipedia, I could post an article about your life and your gay escapades, just because that's my opinion doesn't make it to be true. Although I'm sure you are gay.
Ehren Watada you have guts mate well done. Stand up and be counted and all of you who condem him you need to listen to what he is saying. Those who have no knowedge attack the person and can't debunk the information I challenge you to do it, if you can, I will shut up and acknowledge your facts if you have them.
kelric he is obeying international law and I am sure he is more than willing to defend your country but not to fight a war of aggression and profit. for the powerful few.
If I where to join the army and realize what is really going on in the army I would quit too. My little brother joined and is in Afganistan. He tells me of all the horrible things the Army does over there. Afghans have absolutely no rights there. You can go up to any Afghan and punk him around if your wearing a Uniform. Lets not forget that 911 was an inside job. Look it up, youll be surprised.
9/11 has everything to do with the war. It was the start of the chain reactions that have led us to Iraq, and now eventually to Pakistan. And we're not in Afghanistan to liberate those people as much as we didnt go to Iraq to free them from Saddam.
...why are people so ignorant? We were going to go to war before 911, because the UN was going to move in because Iraq wasn't following UN rules, and broke UN resolution 1441...so 911 really had little to do with the war.
Pakistan got itself into the war, 911 had little to do with that.
Why are we in Afghanistan then? I also want evidance to prove what you say...not some crap you thought up, just because it's a possibility...
Again...i got facts, i doubt you do...prove me wrong...
If you have facts then you have references right? Post'm. Taliban's (whom associated with Al-Qaeda) foothold was in Afghanistan. They had several training camps located in the country as well as the central leadership of the group. Al-Qaeda (Backed by Taliban) is allegedly responsible of 9/11 which gave America the best incentive to pursue invasion of the country. Wikipedia "Iraq War and Afghanistan War", legit references are all there.
I do have references...look up UN resolution 1441, you could even look it up on wikapedia if you want. Since they broke the resolution, the UN was voting for war already,so the beggining phases were under way already. The attack may of added incentive, but the US was going in anyway, hence why 911 happened. The terrorists tried to scare us out of supporting the war, just as they did similar things to other countries, only France germany and a couple others pulled support cause of the bombs.
jus dumb going 2 these countrys we r createing more enemies than we already have we kill there kidz and 4 oil WTF and if were fighting terror we got alot more countrys 2 go 2 korea iran nigeria russia china this is not clear 2 u ?
Have you ever heard of Desert Storm? Our troops have been present in the middle east way before the hapennings of 9/11. Once again, quit talking about a topic you know nothing about.
Dude the only proof you need is the video footage. Just look at the picture of the pentagon and tell me where you think the plane hit it. You would have to be really blind to say a plane hit that after looking at the damage. The Twin Towers themselves don't fall like that naturally, there was not pancake effect going on since everything was falling on its side. So if the weight of the buildings didn't make it fall down, then what did. The evidence speaks for itself.
Why? You obviously don't kow what would happen if that plane hit? How do you know how much damage it would take? I mean...how do you even know all the details?
Twin towers...you mean besides the obvious plane in it's side? Yea...i really wonder what made it fall...since i'm such an ignorant bigot i'll just assume it's an inside job with no motive whatsoever just because i got no proof on anything...i can't even prove it's an inside job but...(guess who i'm talking as...you...)
When the planet fosil will end up, there will be no more arab terrorists. Coincidence or justification to steal other nations ressources?
Wait and see.
And then they will turn to other planet ressources ( as wather ) and they will try to buy theses nations ressources and if they do not cooperate a new kind of terror propaganda will started up to wash the brain of all nations in the world to get support. And then the same pattern will be repeated as in Iraq.
The US is nearly bankrupt and we still have troops stationed around the world. Hopefully the Chinese will stop lending the US money en masse and the WAR MACHINE will start slowing down. There is one good sign of that: The Chinese recently starting buying more short-term(10-year bonds) and SLOWED the buying of the long-term(30-year bonds). They didnt slow their buying because they are bothered by our governments warmongering, they did so because the US is NO LONGER a good long-term investment.
We have troops in Germany from a war that ended 64 years ago, in Korea from a war that ended 56 years ago. We have troops in something like 165 countries. And now we are spending $4 billion a month on fighting the Taliban, which had nothing to do with 9/11.
But I am glad to hear that you are against this Congress's deficit spending.
beaver7216: Wow, $4 billion per month, nuts. The US military industrial complex has turned into a virus that won't stop spreading unless it runs out of money. Scary shit.
An other reason why the Gouv makes illegal war crimes and makes a lot of corruption is to get some extra money to maintain that presure and control over the other nations ressources.
I love how some call all IRAQI CIVILIANS bearing arms, terrorists. Let's see, if Iraq invaded the US to "bring democracy" and during their stay here murdered thousands of civilians, you're telling me American CIVILIANS wouldn't GRAB THEIR GUNS AND TAKE TO THE STREETS, IN MILITIAS NO LESS. Who are you kidding??
And who was doing the killing in Iraq? I was reading about Shiites killing Sunnis, Sunnis killing Kurds, etc. It was a civil war with the multinational forces saving lives. The media made it sound like the US was killing Iraqi civilians. Didn't you read stuff like "Sunni Mosque Bombed-48 killed". You think the US did the bombing?
I knew Bush was a little off on his values, but I didn't think he was so corrupt as to start a war of aggression and sell it to us as... I can't even think of words to describe the contrast between what he sold us and what really happened.
By God what admirable sentiments, i have every respect for what this man did, it just makes me so incredibly angry given what has been done to the world over the last ten years by the puppetmasters, the parasitical Imperialistic scum who have turned America into a land of greed and hypocrisy. The sooner the elite are exterminated the better!
Let's recap. The Pres goes to Congress, as required by the War Powers Clause, and gets permission to go to war in Iraq. Iraq is invaded in Feb, 2003. Watada joins the Army. Gets officer pay. In July, 2003, the UN passes the first of many resolutions authorizing military forces in Iraq, as the international community must help stop a civil war. The internationally illegal invasion is over but the UN sponsored security mission remains. THEN Watada. after 3 years, wants out. What?
Apples and Oranges. The invasion of Iraq in the spring of 2003 was illegal and based on lies. In May, 2003, that invasion was announced "mission accomplished".
In July 2003, the UN realized that Iraq had no government and there was a potential for civil war-Iraqis against Iraqis. And the UN authorized forces to prevent or limit this civil war. This is the war that Watada refused to do, the UN authorized military action. Apples and Oranges. 2003 is not 2006.
Of course, Watada's explanation was that this was an illegal occupation and this is patently false. You can certainly argue that the US should not be involved. However, contrary to logic and the media, the death rate in Iraq actually went down during the occupation, compared to the Saddam years. The US saved lives there. And there is an obligation in the international community to save lives when it can. We did not in Rwanda, Cambodia, Congo, etc. But we did in Iraq.
This man deserves all American's respect for having the balls to stand up and do what all the American people SHOULD have done, which is NOT support an illegal war. I often wonder why the majority of Americans are so willing to spend the life and blood of their soldiers to further enrich corporate america and the military industrial complex. It benefits no-one else but them. Much respect to Mr. Watada.
He's not a traitor, nor a coward. He my friends is a true patriot. To go to Iraq would be the easy way out. As a former US Army soldier, I salute this man.
@undefied going to iraq is the easy way out? i think you got it backwards. this fucker swore an oath to his country and to the army. this punk joined the military knowing a war was going on, but as soon as he is deployed he refuses to do his duty. once you give your self to the army you arent the one who decides whether its a good idea to deploy or not or whether you should go or not. this guy is a pussy and a discrace
@paulinotou Read the wikipedia article about the "US soldiers creed", pay attention to the previous version and compare it to the current version instituted in 2003. We hanged a lot of people at Nuremberg for following their orders; we expected them to say no to something which was clearly abhorrent. I hope you'll realise that you're being a hypocrite. A wise man once said "There are times, sir, when men of good conscience cannot blindly follow orders."
@jacksawild dude we hung people who commited genocide. the americans arent doing that in iraq. most of the deaths are by ieds and suicide bombers. when you see civilians die, thats called war. its nothing new. just new to this generation who really hasnt seen shit.
@paulinotou Read the article on wiki about "Ben Griffin". A UK special forces soldier who resigned after serving with American soldiers in Baghdad. You'll probably come back here and call him a liar but bear in mind he was allowed to leave with the highest commendation from his CO. This isn't a war, it's gone way beyond that and that article tells you why we have lost. The governments now will find a way of getting out without losing face, but the fact is that we've lost. This is vietnam 2.0.
The Americans I believe have killed about 200,000 innocent people as direct casualties of the war, and committed such acts as deliberately bombing a whole hospital to the ground because "informants were in there", not to mention every soldier is under the "if one shot is fired kill everyone in sight" command.
Wake the fuck up you braindead ewok.
As a "patriot" you have are obliged to stand up and say NO when your "government" pisses on international law and commits genocide.
@paulinotou so say you! i hadn't heard that god died and left you in charge, you dirty fascist right-wing nut american! go soak your head. no one else in the world except for the ReThuglican party and ignorant right-wing "americans" want to pay attention to you. go back to school and learn something; MY TAXES PAID FOR YOUR EDUCATION, and you wasted it, fool!
A soldier is under no obligation what-so-ever to be nothing other than a hired thug assassin who kills the few Iraqis who are fighting for their homeland, but moreover to butcher the countless civilians.
Look at the Wikileaks combat footage! Shooting little kids on their way to school for fucks sake!
Do you know what D.U is and the countless dying from that?
he's a little bitch, he signed up for the army, he doesn't make the decisions. id fucking murder this guy in my sight. if u came in my house id fuck u up too. i defect from kommunist regime, u know that? fucking head hippy
@Tomacomo am sure that you was in one or several wars otherwaise u are just another mooron that think that knows eveything about war and political power!!
@Tomacomo You have absolutely NO clue what is going on in this world. This man is a hero, standing up against his government because of the truth...... corruption, power and globalisation. Wake up you dumbass
yes im a chemistry grad student u fucktard. asking me if i got an education, do you just imbibe all that shit they teach in the education system? we need to pull a pol pot on our education system, at least in america. the teachers, in the hundreds of thousands, need to be massacred even if it puts our system 20 years behind in order to purify it. filthy filthy dumb educatiors, always whining. we also need to flood australia with 20,000,000 more immigrants
@Tomacomo I'm confused, if you despise the education system, why have you pursued an education?
The manor is which you speak implies that an education has eluded you. To say that teachers need to be massacred is insane, are you a crazy person? The only way to achieve real change is through a campaign of passive resistance and using intelligent argument to expose corrupt organizations.
@nikolayzou "I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
Traitor and coward hmm? Are you in the Middle East, fighting in these wars sir? No? Well you must be a coward then, by your logic. Choosing not to fight in an unjust war is not cowardice sir, it could actually be said that is an act of bravery. I would assume that you would also say that any dissenters or any who don't support the war are unpatriotic, don't support the troops, etc. Know that dissent is one of the highest forms of patriotism.
The bottom line here is that he voluntarily joined our armed forces and was well aware of the possibility of going to war. He was probably willing to accept the monetary bonuses, housing allowances, etc. but when it was his time to show his appreciation to our Government he was unwilling to do so. It is such ashame to see someone who comes from Honolulu (as I do) be such a coward and disgrace.
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watada is one of those self-serving, whiny, politically correct wussies, who wants his 15 minutes of fame. Why did he join the VOLUNTEER Army. Did he even serve in Iraq? He goes with whatever way the popular politically correct wind is blowing. I respect those who have sincere convictions against the war, but not who just get on the "whatever's popular bandwagon" so they can toot their horn with the rest of the herd.
You are so full of shit kymystic. When he refused deployment to Iraq the political climate was supportive of the invasion. He is taking a courageous stand against a criminal invasion, and a criminal government. It takes far more strength to go against the herd which is the military's command structure.
i live in hilo hawaii. the next island over from honolulu. my family and i watched this speech of his. ive never been so dissapointed of our government.
ANyone for the Iraq war go and read the Charter of the UN and that charter states that the war in Iraq is Illegal internationally because 1)the UN didn't vote the war through. and 2) It was not in self defence. So therefore it is against UN policy! USA is making its own laws up and those laws are ignorant and foolish. And they will plant seeds for the future failure of the plan of the founding fathers of united states and the ruin of many parts of the world. IT was a country not an empire
the anti war people come from canada because we're not greedy for oil we have our own, we don't need nobody elses. And does america stand for anything besides corruption, war, and idiot presidents (father and son) named bush? you are a representative for your own country try to act whether you like it or not - act like one and show respect, oh yeah I forgot a lack of respect is what you as a person stand for; dont disrespect my country ours is not in debt like yours is fool
CAnada doesn't have a housing problem like the USA for starters. You have a market that is in deep trouble. Ours follows yours and is linked to yours and in that respect yes, it is in debt because of your own governments foolishness. And yes I am correct to call someone a fool if they start disrespecting my country which is truly not as ignorant as yours has been in the last 8 years. Blind leading the blind thats what I call your government. wolves leading sheep.
This site is sponsored by communist organizations. World Can't Wait and Code Pink! Do not donate or fall into their cult. They hate all things American. They have paid proctors on this site who try to undermine America. Look up Medea Benjamin and Government sellout Scott Ritter!
AMERICANS RISE UP!!! YOUR COUNTRIES AUTHORITIES ARE USING YOUR COUNTRIES NAME AND TAX DOLLARS TO WAGE A SELFISH WAR OF PAIN AND SUFFERING ALL FOR GAIN. So much killing went on there, so much blood has been spilled. How can "peace" be worth all those lives? To my mind and in my opinion, its not worth it.
talk to a woman with respect even if you don't agree with her. Your language reflects your countries attitudes to the world. Learn to be respectful and you will gain respect for yourself and from others.
animefreakfrmkg, You sound like Japanese soldiers from WW2 (dieing with honor) when they would die for the empire in kamakaze attacks. Your concept of honor seems a little out of joint, my friend. How is it honorable to die in an unjust war? That seems less honorable to me, than refusing to be a part of it.
first: the slimy bitch the was directed at him, second i had no idea u were a woman, i know of like 3 guys named aaron spelled the same way
second: if he thought it was such an unjust war he should never have signed up for the army, but then i guess thats his biggest fault right there, as much as they might bitch about it you would never see a real soldier (USMC) disobey a standing order, he signed up to fight, he should man up and go do it
I don't know where you got it in your head I'm of the female gender/sex.....you may have misread things there. I thought you were talking to a woman on the youtube and calling her a slimy B@#$%. I'm a guy, and my names Aaron. You have a point about the soldier - but he may have joined before the war started. I don't know. if he started after it started, I'd say that was a big mistake seeing the action he took. But I believe the wars wrong now (not before) so I kind of support what he did.
CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR - is an individual who, on religious, moral or ethical grounds, refuses to comply with a legal obligation. The more conspicuous case is the refusal to participate as a combatant in war or, in some cases, to take any role that would support a combatant organization armed forces. This man was a conscientious objector, and I think more people should have stood up to this war, but it takes guts to stand against the STATUS QUO.
aaron, differences between Europe and the US? I arrived 4th of Sept 2008 so still learning. I feel much safer here. I went to the "ghetto" here to compare it to what I saw in Philadelphia ghetto's and there is no comparison. In Philly it was terrible, shootings every week, drugs, fights, aggression,deterroirating housing. In Saint Denis just outside of Paris there was none of this. In fact, I enjoyed my experience there. Everyone was respectful. Also, 11 national holidays and 5 weeks vacation.
Can I message you on your account? Also, 5 weeks vacations? That is sweet. What country did you say you were in again? That sounds nice wherever it is.
aaron, policitcal discussion is much more varied here. I live on a street where there is a Communist Information Office. Have you ever seen that in the US? They criticize "capitalism" and the US much more. I really feel like I am intellectually much more satsified here because of the greater choices which is more democractic.
CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR - is an individual who, on religious, moral or ethical grounds, refuses to comply with a legal obligation. The more conspicuous case is the refusal to participate as a combatant in war or, in some cases, to take any role that would support a combatant organization armed forces. This man was a conscientious objector, and I think more people should have stood up to this war, but it takes guts to stand against the STATUS QUO.
you're indoctrinated if you think the Iraq war was a just war. Your country is not under attack, and did not respond directly in self defense. Neither did the United Nations accept this war, but did not condone it and called it illegal. If you think this guy is a bastard, or a commy, you better look at your own stance which is closer to Nazism.
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What the fuck kind of jackass is this. While men who joined the Army with him went to war and left their families and possibly died, he fuckin sat here bitching and whining about how war is illegal. NO SHIT, People get shot left and right in war, its not a fucking happy legal game?Are you retarded???It wasnt meant to be. Killing millions with A-Bombs in WWII is illegal but we had to do it to win, establish ourselves as a military power, and maintain peace, by putting down crazyass japan
Every country is the same. If one country acquires power over the others, it will exploit that power in its own interests. Even the most 'justified' of countrys commit war crimes. I agree that this guy is a dumbass, but I think he became a soldier and then rebel against the military to make a point and an example. What the US has done in Iraq is actually illegal under the Geneva convention. The US has committed many war crimes in the past whether for selfless or for selfish interests. my 2c.
you're crazy - you're a product of a mindless war machine. I can't believe how war crazy the people of the United States are. The A bombs were not necessary, and were actually crimes against humanity. And all the illegality of the USA points straight towards one thing: The united states does not follow International law. How is that different from Nazi Germany or communist Russia? There really is no excuse to be so blind and ignorant. But keep your head in the sand if you want to.
brilliant, respect to this young man, may more be aware and outspoken.
7/7 was an inside job. the official storey , had thebombers on the 7:20 train from Luton , which was cancelled, so the bombers would not have made it to London. Visor consultants, was having terror drills at those exact stations and times. Peter Powers was interviewd, live on 5 live radio that day. check LUDICRIOUS DIVERSIONS .. peace
A good man to say the least. If the majority of Americans were to think like this gentlman then ther would probably be no war. To bad we are all so easily programmed.
Respect. That was a brave decision and brilliant speech.
On the one hand, people demand that the army's highest goal is to protect their state, constitution, stand up against crime and that they should disobey orders that are against humanity ... On the other hand people demand that a leutenant is just loyal and does everything he's told to do and not question it at all.
That's hypocritical ! Ehren Watada was a brave man as he stood up and said it like it is and made his decision.
Ehren Watada is a brave man with a conscience. We would be a much more noble country if we had more thoughtful, decent people like him...in the millitary, in politics, and in the corporate arena. Keep fighting the good fight, Mr. Watada. You have our gratitude.
ARABS and ISLAMIC FANATICS were used by USA. Those Islamic fanatics and ARABS are too emotional to understand fact. Those fanatics and Arabs were used by USA to kill secular and Communist Muslims to prevent Russian influence. Now, those Islamic fanatics and Arabs are fighting with USA. USA has brain and easily introduced Muslim and ARABS as terrorists. Islamic fanatics and ARABS are as STUPID as DONKEY and can be easily used. IRANIANS ARE NOW BEING USED BY RUSSIA. Now, Shia and Sunni hate!!!
hello aaron, sorry, i don't remember posting that I see civil war coming to the US. I do see reasons for it however the average american doesn't get objective information from the press to be able to understand those reasons.
aaron, personally, i see many reasons for it but the average american doesn't understand economics and how manipulated they are into accepting their elitist economic system.
Britain's six-year occupation of south Iraq will begin drawing to a close in March,and the last troops will leave Basra by June. The British will be replaced at their Basra airport base by US troops. 115 billion barrels of world's known oil reserves beneath Iraqi sands needs to remain under NWO control.
Politics is amoral. Try to understand the real world.
America was won by erasing some 6 million or more of plain Red Indians and removing the rest one way or another. The world cld be next.
CommanderUsuck, The real world? My standard of living and that of my future children, which I can't afford because of a lack of morality in America, has deteriorated because of the imperialist corporate policies of the elites in the USA who have disiminated fear across america while the elites have become richier and richier.The US is ranked lowest in most measures of quality of life and standards of living in the industrialized world while the rich have gotten richer. REALITY YOUR DISLUSSIONAL!
Commandercody, I am sorry, didn't realize you were so young, 8 maybe 9, please keep studying the subjects you are studying because as you grow up you will realize that what you are being taught are fantasties that that adults in power use to manipulate you for their own gain and that adults eventually discredit. Think independantly. For example, the statement that politicals is amoral is a control techinque used by people attempt to acquire control of a children's views on social values.
The real world can be chosen if enough people challenge the status quo. Government knows how to manipulate the many faucets of the public arena to gain their own agenda. I see your point, but it seems resigned. Don't give up hope on the good in the world! There still is hope, even if the world is not as it should be. There are still decent human beings who realize what is right.
aaron, you are right, I am a very disenchanted with the possibility of "change" (americans actually believe Obama will change the economic struture - clueless) in the US anytime soon because of this controlling nature of elites in the US. I actually left to live in Europe partly because of that however I would return if it changed.
Marly61, where in europe do you live? How is it different there from the US? I frankly don't see a lot changing in the USA regarding the basic system or the way the powers that be want things operating. Why do you think a civil war could possibly happen in the USA? Do you think the civilian population will rise in rage because of the economy? I wish they would - more would be done for less in other less wealthy countries. There would be less tolerance in some places for corruption.
Don't worry about the way politicians and power hungry people go about things in the world. Its important to keep our eyes open, but also just as important to find peace and go about life, not letting these political moves, war, and all the rest influence our lives so much. We may not have power like politicians but that doesn't mean we're powerless.
aaron, thanks your for ideas however I believe, if the american people wanted to stop the Iraq war they could have. There were many ways to do this: work stoppages, sabotage, etc..... But In such a materistical culture as the US ecomonics and profit are absolutes and therefore always above man. Not everyone is that way off course however that is the dominate approach to life that leads to attack then ask.Therefore, sorry to say, i believe americans must pay for this complacency and complicity.
Its sad that the establishment (government, stock market, etc...)has taken more precedence than the people as a whole. When will people wake up and start thinking for themselves? Your country is breaking down economically - forget about Iraq, you have a fire in your own backyard!
aaron: "foget about iraq because of US breaking down economically." I view iraq and the US economic problems as one in the same. That is elites have gained control over our tax dollars and how they are spent in a way that allows them to go into Iraq to steal oil using those tax dollars and at the same time reducee the amount of tax dollars that goes into social programs that maintain decent consumption levels and standards of living that would have supported the economy for average people.
Marly61 - "Amen" is all I can say. Those people who support that kind of spending over the average ordinary citizens welfare love their own interests more. Its not about communism, as philosopher wolffy, below says: Its about common sense, wolffy. And for wolffy, if you think the "commys" are trying to undermine America, look again! Its already been undermined by those whose monetary gain is more important than people and their welfare.
arron thanks again however, how can one find peace in a country, job or military where one knows that their taxes dollars are being used to fund the Iraq operation and many more immoral endeavors without doing something about it? A Cconscientious Objector is less immoral than a blind follower however an active antagonist and demonstrator is even less immoral.
I agree, even though the mainstream tide of opinion probably doesn't. Its a travesty the actions supported by this country of the "free" world. I'm so glad we(canadians) didn't go to war with the USA against Iraqis. What a waste of time, energy, resources, lives, and a country and its reputation.
hmmm, so you must spend all your time on youtube and none of it on real news and events cause im pretty sure a few years back you guys were in the war befor one of your own plains killed some of your people, but then again the canadian thing explains alot about your views, you have to much french blood in your people all you do is run away the words canada and war havent been used in the same sentence since 1920's when your people were getting killed by mustard gas
A hundred years ago,the electric telegraph made possible - indeed,inevitable - the United States of America. The communications satellite will make equally inevitable a United Nations of Earth;let us hope that the transition period will not be equally bloody. (Arthur C. Clarke)
The building of the NWO needs energy resources and oil must be central to the world conquest equation.
If NIBIRU comes,the country best in position to survive the cosmic holocaust will stand a chance to realize the NWO.
CommanderUsuck, Ok than,hypothetically,you have lost your family and children after they were rapped and tortured as the people in the World Trade Center have to your base value system. It is possible to allow the world's resources to be used for the benefit of all after the NWO sets up institutions and power structures that criminalize and condemn people, like the US neo-con's, for their murderous aggression allowing more civilized people to distribute the world's resources democratically.
If not wanting American kids to die for Israel means im a Hippie, then FLOWER POWER!!!!! Free Palestine, Free Sullivan County, Free us all !!!!!!
svennbreng 1 month ago
what did he not understand when he went to basic training about following orders?
sk8erfreak9242 7 months ago
@sk8erfreak9242 What did you not understand about his speech? As he explains, it is the duty of all soldiers who swore an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America to refuse all illegal an unconstitutional orders. The order to serve in Iraq is an illegal and illegitimate order which was justified by knowing lies and manipulation to serve the interests of a privileged few. Any soldier who has made it through basic training has sworn the same oath to uphold the constitution.
gifool 2 months ago
@sk8erfreak9242 so then following ur logic about follow order, if your superior said rape ur mother!! u rape ur mother right!!! just clearify to us please!!!
stjimy 2 months ago
@stjimy those are illogical orders.
sk8erfreak9242 2 months ago
@sk8erfreak9242 hows knows!! if an autority request u something u must obey the autority even if seems ilogical to u after all who are you to question the autority?? u just must shut up and follow superior orders!!!
stjimy 2 months ago
@stjimy im not even going to reply.i cant stand you fucking hippies all you do is talk bullshit
sk8erfreak9242 2 months ago
@sk8erfreak9242 hoep that this was ur own words and not just word from other put in ur mouth!!
stjimy 2 months ago
lol he used "self-interest" incorrectly
mtksbctk 8 months ago
This man is a National hero and a true patriot for the constitution. What he does should be written in the constitution, that is, expose anyone who illegally abuses the constitution.
nikolayzou 8 months ago
A TRUE PATRIOT WHO ACTUALLY STANDS UP FOR FREEDOM AND THE CONSTITUTION RATHER THAN THESE SHEEP!!!!!
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago 3
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@karlkarlkarl1234 Any people killed by Hamas are 'of no consequence'
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con2477 1 year ago
If they are willing to lie about the necessity of war perhaps they are willing to lie about 9-11 as well. How can we trust their "story" that it was Osama bin Laden?
They are untrustworthy. Therefore, we need investigation of 9-11. How can anyone object given the history of their lies before us? Liars lie. It's what they do.
nodesnetwork 1 year ago
Hilarious they manipulate inteligence, then say that they have to go to war beacuse of the inteligence they manipulated- they get the war. Then say they didn't know the inteligence was false and believed it so it's not their fault.
Question, How many did know the inteligence was false and lied and today pretend they didnt know, it was false? Besides that whatever answer they give how can you trust them? You can not!
099749 1 year ago
Wow. This gave me chills because it is so on point!
mandaJt 1 year ago
Wash Dc is the military hq of the NWO Khazar Jews, they use US soldiers for their interest profits. They make enemies around the world then send US troops to fight innocent nations who were probably victims of false flag operations. History of US false flag ops. Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48, Spanish-American war, 1898. World War I, 1914-1918: World War 2, 1939-1945. Korean War, 1950-1953. Granada Invasion. War on Drugs. Panama invasion: US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
fu66 1 year ago
@fu66
Well said, Israel is the only reason America is in the region.
Israel's rule is: lets force America to destroy the whole region so we can dominate it.
Let's never forget about the Zionist bombing of USS Liberty and the mass-murder of American sailors by Israel because they wanted to trick America into invading Egypt for them.
This just proves that Israel has no qualms at all about sending countless Americans to die in their wars.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
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@karlkarlkarl1234 There is no point with this fundamentalist, he has publicly stated on youtube that any people killed by Hamas are "of no consequence" (he also believes Hamas have not killed more than 15 people), he has also publicly stated on youtube that Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime is "something to be admired" and this is a statement made even though he knows what that regime has done to the Iranian people after it lost the election, now you understand his hate.
con2477 1 year ago
Not surprising that you never read and have no understanding of the Constitution. Article I, Section 8.
zoetic12 1 year ago
@zoetic12 I'm sorry can you be more specific. I have read the constitution and I'm a bit confused.
dj999dominator 1 year ago
@dj999dominator One of the Legislature's specific powers is to declare war. War has not been declared since 1942. The "war powers resolution" of 1973 is, itself, unconstitutional. The war is also illegal, immoral, and unjust. Must I really spell it all out for you? I am really not surprised that the war is still ongoing when most kids can't name the three branches of the federal government or any supreme court justices but can give you sports details and name the all the judges on American Idol.
zoetic12 1 year ago
Lt. Watada seems like a very honorable man.
BuxomBabeXOXO 1 year ago
what ehren watada had done is something that is far more brave than any other soldier. many people would claim that he has broken a promise, but how could a man keep a promise to a country who has not held their end of the bargain? the answer is simple, he should not. it is against human right to put a life at risk PERIOD.
hulaelephant 1 year ago
Its a shame that we have come to this! Fighting for a worthless cause at the behest of greedy and foolish men.
hanson666999 1 year ago
@hanson666999 YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!
jamescotelli123 1 year ago
@jamescotelli123 YEAH YOUR A TOTAL CUNT!!!!!! HOW ABOUT I PUNCH YOU IN YOUR FUCKING THROAT.
hanson666999 1 year ago
He is not betraying his country, but serving it by standing for the US Constitution against a war of aggression. He is a very brave and noble man. He...is the hero that you should praise.
Whether or not some people in Iraq want US soldiers there are not, the war is a war of aggression and is an illegal act.
Pax00Imperium 2 years ago 7
Lt. Ehren Watada does not represent the ENTIRE Asian American community.
I'm Asian American and I would rather go off to fight the war and come home in a box then abandon my men and my country. He is a coward and is NO HERO! When you raised your right hand and vowed to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, you better damn well keep that promise.
He broke the promise and he failed to do so. Damn war deserter.
BroadCastTuber 2 years ago
broadcastercochink u will be a perfect sopldier in thje army of the next empire of this world "China" yeah China, USA is over!!!
stjimy 1 year ago
Thanks for setting the record straight. You are right. If we join the military we need to know that we are serving our country. What Lt. Watada did was dishonorable for our nation and God.
rmrooster01 1 year ago
@BroadCastTuber The war is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. That's the point. He is keeping his vow to the Constitution not to the government.
zoetic12 1 year ago
@zoetic12 Ok, Tell me what amendment it breaks?
sgtSqeegee119 1 year ago
he's hot.
cepacol06 2 years ago
except the little coward was never in iraq or afghanistan so he doesnt know the truth about what goes on. Media lies about what goes on. We dont shoot civilians unless they shoot as us in which case they are now armed combatants. Accidents happen just as they do in every conflict in populated areas. The Iraqi people are happy were there. Ive gone on many patrols and had diner with families and they thank us for our help to make their country safe and their's once again.
44hulkster 2 years ago
hey 44 no worries mate I know you blokes are doing a fine job. My nephew is in Afghanistan at the moment. It's not you blokes that are the problem. You need to look to history and all the games that countries like the UK, USA and other european countries have been playing. You will then see how everything fits together. The facts of history not emotions on either side of the argument need to be looked at to get to the real truth. So 44 stay safe and keep fighting the good fight.
acoyrazorback 2 years ago
...yeah, im pretty sure their gratefull that you guys are torturing them and smashing little kids testicles infront of their parents. Go fuck yourself.
israelgaribaldi 2 years ago
The Iraqi's are not happy with US troops being in their country dude. Malnutrition rates have gone up to 28% (19% post-war) theres 5 million kids with no parents, cholera outbreaks from the water, and acts of ethnic cleansings of the sunny islams. All cause of American intervention. Trust me, they're pretty fucking pissed off over there.
RobToLP 2 years ago
That is a wide and way too hasty statement dude. Those percentages and stats are very flawed considering it varies year by year, there were many other events that happened when the US came(along with the UN), so you really don't know why those stats are that way, and it's all speculating as to why those stats are that way.
I doubt the US affected their water...and again, you are assuming that the US did all this(though it is a war zone...it's not going to get nicer...)
kelric6 2 years ago
They're also pissed that they're not allowed a democracy as well. You obviously haven't been to Iraq, or you would know that the general consensus of the people is to have the American troops present to help establish security and democracy. Quit talking out of your ass about a topic you know nothing about.
mikeyadigone 2 years ago
I got my references from wikipedia (which the references from the site even have their own references), (look up war in iraq/afghanistan) so where are your facts at? Seems like your head is stuck so far up your own ass you can see through your mouth.
weenah 2 years ago
First of all, this conversation wasn't directed towards you. Second, the previous facts that I've stated are common knowledge. If you don't know them to be facts then you're more dim witted than you're ignorant comments portray you to be. Third, anyone can post information on wikipedia, I could post an article about your life and your gay escapades, just because that's my opinion doesn't make it to be true. Although I'm sure you are gay.
mikeyadigone 2 years ago
Ehren Watada you have guts mate well done. Stand up and be counted and all of you who condem him you need to listen to what he is saying. Those who have no knowedge attack the person and can't debunk the information I challenge you to do it, if you can, I will shut up and acknowledge your facts if you have them.
acoyrazorback 2 years ago
kelric he is obeying international law and I am sure he is more than willing to defend your country but not to fight a war of aggression and profit. for the powerful few.
acoyrazorback 2 years ago
Ehren Watada was a douche and made a mockery of the army...you don't join the army unless you are willing to fight and defend the country...
kelric6 2 years ago
If I where to join the army and realize what is really going on in the army I would quit too. My little brother joined and is in Afganistan. He tells me of all the horrible things the Army does over there. Afghans have absolutely no rights there. You can go up to any Afghan and punk him around if your wearing a Uniform. Lets not forget that 911 was an inside job. Look it up, youll be surprised.
israelgaribaldi 2 years ago
Hmmm...why are the all idiots conspiracy theorists...?
First...you can't just quit, you signed a contract.
Secon, if your stupid enough to join the army without knowing what goes on in the army...do america a favor, don't reproduce...
Afgans have no rights...yea...thats partially why we were in there.
911 is so not an inside job...you've got no proof whatsoever...you just assume...thats it.
Also...911 has little-nothing to do with the war...
kelric6 2 years ago
9/11 has everything to do with the war. It was the start of the chain reactions that have led us to Iraq, and now eventually to Pakistan. And we're not in Afghanistan to liberate those people as much as we didnt go to Iraq to free them from Saddam.
RobToLP 2 years ago
...why are people so ignorant? We were going to go to war before 911, because the UN was going to move in because Iraq wasn't following UN rules, and broke UN resolution 1441...so 911 really had little to do with the war.
Pakistan got itself into the war, 911 had little to do with that.
Why are we in Afghanistan then? I also want evidance to prove what you say...not some crap you thought up, just because it's a possibility...
Again...i got facts, i doubt you do...prove me wrong...
kelric6 2 years ago
If you have facts then you have references right? Post'm. Taliban's (whom associated with Al-Qaeda) foothold was in Afghanistan. They had several training camps located in the country as well as the central leadership of the group. Al-Qaeda (Backed by Taliban) is allegedly responsible of 9/11 which gave America the best incentive to pursue invasion of the country. Wikipedia "Iraq War and Afghanistan War", legit references are all there.
RobToLP 2 years ago
I do have references...look up UN resolution 1441, you could even look it up on wikapedia if you want. Since they broke the resolution, the UN was voting for war already,so the beggining phases were under way already. The attack may of added incentive, but the US was going in anyway, hence why 911 happened. The terrorists tried to scare us out of supporting the war, just as they did similar things to other countries, only France germany and a couple others pulled support cause of the bombs.
kelric6 2 years ago
jus dumb going 2 these countrys we r createing more enemies than we already have we kill there kidz and 4 oil WTF and if were fighting terror we got alot more countrys 2 go 2 korea iran nigeria russia china this is not clear 2 u ?
theamazingethann 2 years ago
Have you ever heard of Desert Storm? Our troops have been present in the middle east way before the hapennings of 9/11. Once again, quit talking about a topic you know nothing about.
mikeyadigone 2 years ago
Dude the only proof you need is the video footage. Just look at the picture of the pentagon and tell me where you think the plane hit it. You would have to be really blind to say a plane hit that after looking at the damage. The Twin Towers themselves don't fall like that naturally, there was not pancake effect going on since everything was falling on its side. So if the weight of the buildings didn't make it fall down, then what did. The evidence speaks for itself.
israelgaribaldi 2 years ago
Why? You obviously don't kow what would happen if that plane hit? How do you know how much damage it would take? I mean...how do you even know all the details?
Twin towers...you mean besides the obvious plane in it's side? Yea...i really wonder what made it fall...since i'm such an ignorant bigot i'll just assume it's an inside job with no motive whatsoever just because i got no proof on anything...i can't even prove it's an inside job but...(guess who i'm talking as...you...)
kelric6 2 years ago
he was scarred i hearded, my cous in the army tolded me
rubent100 2 years ago
When the planet fosil will end up, there will be no more arab terrorists. Coincidence or justification to steal other nations ressources?
Wait and see.
And then they will turn to other planet ressources ( as wather ) and they will try to buy theses nations ressources and if they do not cooperate a new kind of terror propaganda will started up to wash the brain of all nations in the world to get support. And then the same pattern will be repeated as in Iraq.
Poor Iraqi people.
tatoforever 2 years ago
wellllllll, it says on the paper when you sign you cannot refuse war or you are encarcerated why this douche signed up then.
rubent100 2 years ago
The US is nearly bankrupt and we still have troops stationed around the world. Hopefully the Chinese will stop lending the US money en masse and the WAR MACHINE will start slowing down. There is one good sign of that: The Chinese recently starting buying more short-term(10-year bonds) and SLOWED the buying of the long-term(30-year bonds). They didnt slow their buying because they are bothered by our governments warmongering, they did so because the US is NO LONGER a good long-term investment.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
We have troops in Germany from a war that ended 64 years ago, in Korea from a war that ended 56 years ago. We have troops in something like 165 countries. And now we are spending $4 billion a month on fighting the Taliban, which had nothing to do with 9/11.
But I am glad to hear that you are against this Congress's deficit spending.
beaver7216 2 years ago 4
beaver7216: Wow, $4 billion per month, nuts. The US military industrial complex has turned into a virus that won't stop spreading unless it runs out of money. Scary shit.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
An other reason why the Gouv makes illegal war crimes and makes a lot of corruption is to get some extra money to maintain that presure and control over the other nations ressources.
Its a viral cycle that seems to never end.
tatoforever 2 years ago
Heh, Code Pinko?
BargainBinLaden 2 years ago
I love how some call all IRAQI CIVILIANS bearing arms, terrorists. Let's see, if Iraq invaded the US to "bring democracy" and during their stay here murdered thousands of civilians, you're telling me American CIVILIANS wouldn't GRAB THEIR GUNS AND TAKE TO THE STREETS, IN MILITIAS NO LESS. Who are you kidding??
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
And who was doing the killing in Iraq? I was reading about Shiites killing Sunnis, Sunnis killing Kurds, etc. It was a civil war with the multinational forces saving lives. The media made it sound like the US was killing Iraqi civilians. Didn't you read stuff like "Sunni Mosque Bombed-48 killed". You think the US did the bombing?
beaver7216 2 years ago
this should be called the "PINKO" show.
crenshawboy2 2 years ago
I knew Bush was a little off on his values, but I didn't think he was so corrupt as to start a war of aggression and sell it to us as... I can't even think of words to describe the contrast between what he sold us and what really happened.
PerianArdocyl 2 years ago
By God what admirable sentiments, i have every respect for what this man did, it just makes me so incredibly angry given what has been done to the world over the last ten years by the puppetmasters, the parasitical Imperialistic scum who have turned America into a land of greed and hypocrisy. The sooner the elite are exterminated the better!
hanson666999 2 years ago
Let's recap. The Pres goes to Congress, as required by the War Powers Clause, and gets permission to go to war in Iraq. Iraq is invaded in Feb, 2003. Watada joins the Army. Gets officer pay. In July, 2003, the UN passes the first of many resolutions authorizing military forces in Iraq, as the international community must help stop a civil war. The internationally illegal invasion is over but the UN sponsored security mission remains. THEN Watada. after 3 years, wants out. What?
beaver7216 2 years ago
Regarding the Iraqi invasion, YouTube: George Galloway vs. U.S Senate
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
Apples and Oranges. The invasion of Iraq in the spring of 2003 was illegal and based on lies. In May, 2003, that invasion was announced "mission accomplished".
In July 2003, the UN realized that Iraq had no government and there was a potential for civil war-Iraqis against Iraqis. And the UN authorized forces to prevent or limit this civil war. This is the war that Watada refused to do, the UN authorized military action. Apples and Oranges. 2003 is not 2006.
beaver7216 2 years ago 2
As he well should have. The US should not have been involved in either the legal or illegal occupation of Iraq.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
Of course, Watada's explanation was that this was an illegal occupation and this is patently false. You can certainly argue that the US should not be involved. However, contrary to logic and the media, the death rate in Iraq actually went down during the occupation, compared to the Saddam years. The US saved lives there. And there is an obligation in the international community to save lives when it can. We did not in Rwanda, Cambodia, Congo, etc. But we did in Iraq.
beaver7216 2 years ago
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Watada should be tortured and killed t. He is obviously a traitor.
crutmauler 2 years ago
only choice for america is CIVIL WAR PEOPLE STAND UP AND DO IT
TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA 2 years ago 4
This man deserves all American's respect for having the balls to stand up and do what all the American people SHOULD have done, which is NOT support an illegal war. I often wonder why the majority of Americans are so willing to spend the life and blood of their soldiers to further enrich corporate america and the military industrial complex. It benefits no-one else but them. Much respect to Mr. Watada.
000deadcalm000 2 years ago 10
yeah he had alot of mexican friends who told him to do it, i know him.
rubent100 2 years ago
He's not a traitor, nor a coward. He my friends is a true patriot. To go to Iraq would be the easy way out. As a former US Army soldier, I salute this man.
undefied 2 years ago 29
@undefied going to iraq is the easy way out? i think you got it backwards. this fucker swore an oath to his country and to the army. this punk joined the military knowing a war was going on, but as soon as he is deployed he refuses to do his duty. once you give your self to the army you arent the one who decides whether its a good idea to deploy or not or whether you should go or not. this guy is a pussy and a discrace
paulinotou 1 year ago
@paulinotou Read the wikipedia article about the "US soldiers creed", pay attention to the previous version and compare it to the current version instituted in 2003. We hanged a lot of people at Nuremberg for following their orders; we expected them to say no to something which was clearly abhorrent. I hope you'll realise that you're being a hypocrite. A wise man once said "There are times, sir, when men of good conscience cannot blindly follow orders."
jacksawild 1 year ago
@jacksawild dude we hung people who commited genocide. the americans arent doing that in iraq. most of the deaths are by ieds and suicide bombers. when you see civilians die, thats called war. its nothing new. just new to this generation who really hasnt seen shit.
paulinotou 1 year ago
@paulinotou Read the article on wiki about "Ben Griffin". A UK special forces soldier who resigned after serving with American soldiers in Baghdad. You'll probably come back here and call him a liar but bear in mind he was allowed to leave with the highest commendation from his CO. This isn't a war, it's gone way beyond that and that article tells you why we have lost. The governments now will find a way of getting out without losing face, but the fact is that we've lost. This is vietnam 2.0.
jacksawild 1 year ago
@jacksawild
It won't reach the level of public activism as that of Vietnam because it doesn't involve conscription.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@paulinotou
The Americans I believe have killed about 200,000 innocent people as direct casualties of the war, and committed such acts as deliberately bombing a whole hospital to the ground because "informants were in there", not to mention every soldier is under the "if one shot is fired kill everyone in sight" command.
Wake the fuck up you braindead ewok.
As a "patriot" you have are obliged to stand up and say NO when your "government" pisses on international law and commits genocide.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
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con2477 1 year ago
@paulinotou so say you! i hadn't heard that god died and left you in charge, you dirty fascist right-wing nut american! go soak your head. no one else in the world except for the ReThuglican party and ignorant right-wing "americans" want to pay attention to you. go back to school and learn something; MY TAXES PAID FOR YOUR EDUCATION, and you wasted it, fool!
eriqkk 1 year ago
@eriqkk its easy to say someones stupid. it take a bit more time to put down facts
paulinotou 1 year ago
@paulinotou Okay... you're boring, stupid, and lazy. There, that took a bit more time.
Hope you're happy now, you little American fascist!
eriqkk 1 year ago
"joined the military knowing a war was going on"
Actually, no war has ever been declared at all.
A soldier is under no obligation what-so-ever to be nothing other than a hired thug assassin who kills the few Iraqis who are fighting for their homeland, but moreover to butcher the countless civilians.
Look at the Wikileaks combat footage! Shooting little kids on their way to school for fucks sake!
Do you know what D.U is and the countless dying from that?
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@undefied
he's a little bitch, he signed up for the army, he doesn't make the decisions. id fucking murder this guy in my sight. if u came in my house id fuck u up too. i defect from kommunist regime, u know that? fucking head hippy
Tomacomo 11 months ago
@Tomacomo am sure that you was in one or several wars otherwaise u are just another mooron that think that knows eveything about war and political power!!
stjimy 11 months ago
@stjimy You first need to learn how to construct a sentence, this is the foundation of communication, dumbass.
nikolayzou 8 months ago
@Tomacomo You have absolutely NO clue what is going on in this world. This man is a hero, standing up against his government because of the truth...... corruption, power and globalisation. Wake up you dumbass
sswemmer 10 months ago
@Tomacomo I am interested, did you ever get an education?
nikolayzou 8 months ago
@nikolayzou
yes im a chemistry grad student u fucktard. asking me if i got an education, do you just imbibe all that shit they teach in the education system? we need to pull a pol pot on our education system, at least in america. the teachers, in the hundreds of thousands, need to be massacred even if it puts our system 20 years behind in order to purify it. filthy filthy dumb educatiors, always whining. we also need to flood australia with 20,000,000 more immigrants
Tomacomo 8 months ago
@Tomacomo I'm confused, if you despise the education system, why have you pursued an education?
The manor is which you speak implies that an education has eluded you. To say that teachers need to be massacred is insane, are you a crazy person? The only way to achieve real change is through a campaign of passive resistance and using intelligent argument to expose corrupt organizations.
nikolayzou 8 months ago
@nikolayzou "I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
— Thomas Jefferson
PurposeOnEarth 8 months ago
At least Canada is not hated. American need to close foreign bases over 700 of them. Why do American need 700 bases.
shootthedevil 2 years ago 3
US is the most powerful country in the world. Only its people can stop the US tyranny abroad. US government and the elite are evil and racist.
shootthedevil 2 years ago 7
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Traitor, Chicken, Coward. all are ways of spelling the name Ehren Watada!
AMazing how cowards want to stay and be safe in the home of the Free and the Brave!
Hey Watada - won't you go wave your little protest sign in front of our enemies?
Afraid they would attack you - theywould you flippin' worthless piece of garbage.
14thetruth 2 years ago
Traitor and coward hmm? Are you in the Middle East, fighting in these wars sir? No? Well you must be a coward then, by your logic. Choosing not to fight in an unjust war is not cowardice sir, it could actually be said that is an act of bravery. I would assume that you would also say that any dissenters or any who don't support the war are unpatriotic, don't support the troops, etc. Know that dissent is one of the highest forms of patriotism.
Ieatbabies8 2 years ago 6
And also that not supporting a war and not supporting a country's military are not one and the same.
Ieatbabies8 2 years ago 3
The bottom line here is that he voluntarily joined our armed forces and was well aware of the possibility of going to war. He was probably willing to accept the monetary bonuses, housing allowances, etc. but when it was his time to show his appreciation to our Government he was unwilling to do so. It is such ashame to see someone who comes from Honolulu (as I do) be such a coward and disgrace.
patrickfathead 2 years ago
fascist
So killing is good a strong man but not killing is a coward
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
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watada is one of those self-serving, whiny, politically correct wussies, who wants his 15 minutes of fame. Why did he join the VOLUNTEER Army. Did he even serve in Iraq? He goes with whatever way the popular politically correct wind is blowing. I respect those who have sincere convictions against the war, but not who just get on the "whatever's popular bandwagon" so they can toot their horn with the rest of the herd.
kymystic65 2 years ago
You are so full of shit kymystic. When he refused deployment to Iraq the political climate was supportive of the invasion. He is taking a courageous stand against a criminal invasion, and a criminal government. It takes far more strength to go against the herd which is the military's command structure.
undeadpresident 2 years ago 5
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kymystic65 2 years ago
i live in hilo hawaii. the next island over from honolulu. my family and i watched this speech of his. ive never been so dissapointed of our government.
michaelprodigy 2 years ago 4
ANyone for the Iraq war go and read the Charter of the UN and that charter states that the war in Iraq is Illegal internationally because 1)the UN didn't vote the war through. and 2) It was not in self defence. So therefore it is against UN policy! USA is making its own laws up and those laws are ignorant and foolish. And they will plant seeds for the future failure of the plan of the founding fathers of united states and the ruin of many parts of the world. IT was a country not an empire
aaronkehl 2 years ago 19
@aaronkehl The U.N. is BULLSHIT! Who are they to tell us how to run our country?
sgtSqeegee119 1 year ago
the anti war people come from canada because we're not greedy for oil we have our own, we don't need nobody elses. And does america stand for anything besides corruption, war, and idiot presidents (father and son) named bush? you are a representative for your own country try to act whether you like it or not - act like one and show respect, oh yeah I forgot a lack of respect is what you as a person stand for; dont disrespect my country ours is not in debt like yours is fool
aaronkehl 2 years ago
Beg to differ, I believe as a % of GDP Canada is as much in debt as the US.
You shouldn't call people fools, if your own facts aren't correct.
gerry301 2 years ago
CAnada doesn't have a housing problem like the USA for starters. You have a market that is in deep trouble. Ours follows yours and is linked to yours and in that respect yes, it is in debt because of your own governments foolishness. And yes I am correct to call someone a fool if they start disrespecting my country which is truly not as ignorant as yours has been in the last 8 years. Blind leading the blind thats what I call your government. wolves leading sheep.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
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aaronkehl 2 years ago
This site is sponsored by communist organizations. World Can't Wait and Code Pink! Do not donate or fall into their cult. They hate all things American. They have paid proctors on this site who try to undermine America. Look up Medea Benjamin and Government sellout Scott Ritter!
philosopherwolffy 2 years ago
AMERICANS RISE UP!!! YOUR COUNTRIES AUTHORITIES ARE USING YOUR COUNTRIES NAME AND TAX DOLLARS TO WAGE A SELFISH WAR OF PAIN AND SUFFERING ALL FOR GAIN. So much killing went on there, so much blood has been spilled. How can "peace" be worth all those lives? To my mind and in my opinion, its not worth it.
aaronkehl 2 years ago 3
that man should be hung for treason he signed himself up he has no right to question die with honor you slimy bitch
animefreakfrmkg 2 years ago
talk to a woman with respect even if you don't agree with her. Your language reflects your countries attitudes to the world. Learn to be respectful and you will gain respect for yourself and from others.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
animefreakfrmkg, You sound like Japanese soldiers from WW2 (dieing with honor) when they would die for the empire in kamakaze attacks. Your concept of honor seems a little out of joint, my friend. How is it honorable to die in an unjust war? That seems less honorable to me, than refusing to be a part of it.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
first: the slimy bitch the was directed at him, second i had no idea u were a woman, i know of like 3 guys named aaron spelled the same way
second: if he thought it was such an unjust war he should never have signed up for the army, but then i guess thats his biggest fault right there, as much as they might bitch about it you would never see a real soldier (USMC) disobey a standing order, he signed up to fight, he should man up and go do it
animefreakfrmkg 2 years ago
I don't know where you got it in your head I'm of the female gender/sex.....you may have misread things there. I thought you were talking to a woman on the youtube and calling her a slimy B@#$%. I'm a guy, and my names Aaron. You have a point about the soldier - but he may have joined before the war started. I don't know. if he started after it started, I'd say that was a big mistake seeing the action he took. But I believe the wars wrong now (not before) so I kind of support what he did.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR - is an individual who, on religious, moral or ethical grounds, refuses to comply with a legal obligation. The more conspicuous case is the refusal to participate as a combatant in war or, in some cases, to take any role that would support a combatant organization armed forces. This man was a conscientious objector, and I think more people should have stood up to this war, but it takes guts to stand against the STATUS QUO.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
aaron, differences between Europe and the US? I arrived 4th of Sept 2008 so still learning. I feel much safer here. I went to the "ghetto" here to compare it to what I saw in Philadelphia ghetto's and there is no comparison. In Philly it was terrible, shootings every week, drugs, fights, aggression,deterroirating housing. In Saint Denis just outside of Paris there was none of this. In fact, I enjoyed my experience there. Everyone was respectful. Also, 11 national holidays and 5 weeks vacation.
Marly61 2 years ago
Can I message you on your account? Also, 5 weeks vacations? That is sweet. What country did you say you were in again? That sounds nice wherever it is.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
aaron, policitcal discussion is much more varied here. I live on a street where there is a Communist Information Office. Have you ever seen that in the US? They criticize "capitalism" and the US much more. I really feel like I am intellectually much more satsified here because of the greater choices which is more democractic.
Marly61 2 years ago
what greater choices do you mean?
feel free to reply directly to my inbox, marly61
aaronkehl 2 years ago
"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon." ( Napoleon Bonaparte )
Looks like Ehren Watada is an exception as far as Napoleon's observation is concerned.
There are people enough who question Watada's stand as be unpatriotic and dishonorable.
CommanderUTube 2 years ago
CommandauhUTube, you posted
"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon."
That is the type of blind obedience and stupidity that got us into the Iraq War.
Marly61 2 years ago
CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR - is an individual who, on religious, moral or ethical grounds, refuses to comply with a legal obligation. The more conspicuous case is the refusal to participate as a combatant in war or, in some cases, to take any role that would support a combatant organization armed forces. This man was a conscientious objector, and I think more people should have stood up to this war, but it takes guts to stand against the STATUS QUO.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
you're indoctrinated if you think the Iraq war was a just war. Your country is not under attack, and did not respond directly in self defense. Neither did the United Nations accept this war, but did not condone it and called it illegal. If you think this guy is a bastard, or a commy, you better look at your own stance which is closer to Nazism.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
SO INSPIRING.. did he go to jail?
yohanshow 3 years ago
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What the fuck kind of jackass is this. While men who joined the Army with him went to war and left their families and possibly died, he fuckin sat here bitching and whining about how war is illegal. NO SHIT, People get shot left and right in war, its not a fucking happy legal game?Are you retarded???It wasnt meant to be. Killing millions with A-Bombs in WWII is illegal but we had to do it to win, establish ourselves as a military power, and maintain peace, by putting down crazyass japan
Spike00513z 3 years ago
Every country is the same. If one country acquires power over the others, it will exploit that power in its own interests. Even the most 'justified' of countrys commit war crimes. I agree that this guy is a dumbass, but I think he became a soldier and then rebel against the military to make a point and an example. What the US has done in Iraq is actually illegal under the Geneva convention. The US has committed many war crimes in the past whether for selfless or for selfish interests. my 2c.
webnothing 3 years ago
The bush administration was the thing to be stopped to reestablish peace in the free world.
heavyaxe2 2 years ago
you're crazy - you're a product of a mindless war machine. I can't believe how war crazy the people of the United States are. The A bombs were not necessary, and were actually crimes against humanity. And all the illegality of the USA points straight towards one thing: The united states does not follow International law. How is that different from Nazi Germany or communist Russia? There really is no excuse to be so blind and ignorant. But keep your head in the sand if you want to.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
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This guy is an idiot. He should not of joined the army if he wasn't willing. This just lowers troop morale. Plus, the war ain't illegal...
kelric6 3 years ago
He is a gentleman and a TRUE humanbeing, not a murder or a killer.
Available099 3 years ago 6
I agree with you, ehran watada is an honest, true and courageous human being.
aaronkehl 2 years ago 2
Trully a wise!
cric45master 3 years ago 4
brilliant, respect to this young man, may more be aware and outspoken.
7/7 was an inside job. the official storey , had thebombers on the 7:20 train from Luton , which was cancelled, so the bombers would not have made it to London. Visor consultants, was having terror drills at those exact stations and times. Peter Powers was interviewd, live on 5 live radio that day. check LUDICRIOUS DIVERSIONS .. peace
militaryrundemocracy 3 years ago 2
A good man to say the least. If the majority of Americans were to think like this gentlman then ther would probably be no war. To bad we are all so easily programmed.
Decapoe 3 years ago 7
His bollocks have the size of Australia.
TesifonteNegro 3 years ago
Some men kill and they are called brave.
But this man, a man of peace, a braver man I have never seen nor met.
getbracked 3 years ago 5
Respect. That was a brave decision and brilliant speech.
On the one hand, people demand that the army's highest goal is to protect their state, constitution, stand up against crime and that they should disobey orders that are against humanity ... On the other hand people demand that a leutenant is just loyal and does everything he's told to do and not question it at all.
That's hypocritical ! Ehren Watada was a brave man as he stood up and said it like it is and made his decision.
dings1337 3 years ago 10
Ehren Watada is a brave man with a conscience. We would be a much more noble country if we had more thoughtful, decent people like him...in the millitary, in politics, and in the corporate arena. Keep fighting the good fight, Mr. Watada. You have our gratitude.
Signed, The Real American People
somersetdc 3 years ago 4
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Fact1971 3 years ago
The first smart american i have seen
hakim120 3 years ago 3
Guess you didn't watch the Presidential election.
grazon 3 years ago
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May i kill him please i should choke him to death??
wiferachel 3 years ago
The decision of Ehren's case should determine whether or not civil war comes to the broken USA.
Marly61 3 years ago
Tha sawth will riiise again!
PaxautBellum 3 years ago
What makes you say civil war is coming to the USA? Do you see the seeds of that present in the country?
aaronkehl 2 years ago
hello aaron, sorry, i don't remember posting that I see civil war coming to the US. I do see reasons for it however the average american doesn't get objective information from the press to be able to understand those reasons.
Marly61 2 years ago
aaron, personally, i see many reasons for it but the average american doesn't understand economics and how manipulated they are into accepting their elitist economic system.
Marly61 2 years ago
Britain's six-year occupation of south Iraq will begin drawing to a close in March,and the last troops will leave Basra by June. The British will be replaced at their Basra airport base by US troops. 115 billion barrels of world's known oil reserves beneath Iraqi sands needs to remain under NWO control.
Politics is amoral. Try to understand the real world.
America was won by erasing some 6 million or more of plain Red Indians and removing the rest one way or another. The world cld be next.
CommanderUTube 3 years ago
CommanderUsuck, The real world? My standard of living and that of my future children, which I can't afford because of a lack of morality in America, has deteriorated because of the imperialist corporate policies of the elites in the USA who have disiminated fear across america while the elites have become richier and richier.The US is ranked lowest in most measures of quality of life and standards of living in the industrialized world while the rich have gotten richer. REALITY YOUR DISLUSSIONAL!
Marly61 3 years ago
Commandercody, I am sorry, didn't realize you were so young, 8 maybe 9, please keep studying the subjects you are studying because as you grow up you will realize that what you are being taught are fantasties that that adults in power use to manipulate you for their own gain and that adults eventually discredit. Think independantly. For example, the statement that politicals is amoral is a control techinque used by people attempt to acquire control of a children's views on social values.
Marly61 3 years ago
The real world can be chosen if enough people challenge the status quo. Government knows how to manipulate the many faucets of the public arena to gain their own agenda. I see your point, but it seems resigned. Don't give up hope on the good in the world! There still is hope, even if the world is not as it should be. There are still decent human beings who realize what is right.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
aaron, you are right, I am a very disenchanted with the possibility of "change" (americans actually believe Obama will change the economic struture - clueless) in the US anytime soon because of this controlling nature of elites in the US. I actually left to live in Europe partly because of that however I would return if it changed.
Marly61 2 years ago
Marly61, where in europe do you live? How is it different there from the US? I frankly don't see a lot changing in the USA regarding the basic system or the way the powers that be want things operating. Why do you think a civil war could possibly happen in the USA? Do you think the civilian population will rise in rage because of the economy? I wish they would - more would be done for less in other less wealthy countries. There would be less tolerance in some places for corruption.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
Don't worry about the way politicians and power hungry people go about things in the world. Its important to keep our eyes open, but also just as important to find peace and go about life, not letting these political moves, war, and all the rest influence our lives so much. We may not have power like politicians but that doesn't mean we're powerless.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
aaron, thanks your for ideas however I believe, if the american people wanted to stop the Iraq war they could have. There were many ways to do this: work stoppages, sabotage, etc..... But In such a materistical culture as the US ecomonics and profit are absolutes and therefore always above man. Not everyone is that way off course however that is the dominate approach to life that leads to attack then ask.Therefore, sorry to say, i believe americans must pay for this complacency and complicity.
Marly61 2 years ago
Its sad that the establishment (government, stock market, etc...)has taken more precedence than the people as a whole. When will people wake up and start thinking for themselves? Your country is breaking down economically - forget about Iraq, you have a fire in your own backyard!
aaronkehl 2 years ago
aaron: "foget about iraq because of US breaking down economically." I view iraq and the US economic problems as one in the same. That is elites have gained control over our tax dollars and how they are spent in a way that allows them to go into Iraq to steal oil using those tax dollars and at the same time reducee the amount of tax dollars that goes into social programs that maintain decent consumption levels and standards of living that would have supported the economy for average people.
Marly61 2 years ago
Marly61 - "Amen" is all I can say. Those people who support that kind of spending over the average ordinary citizens welfare love their own interests more. Its not about communism, as philosopher wolffy, below says: Its about common sense, wolffy. And for wolffy, if you think the "commys" are trying to undermine America, look again! Its already been undermined by those whose monetary gain is more important than people and their welfare.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
arron thanks again however, how can one find peace in a country, job or military where one knows that their taxes dollars are being used to fund the Iraq operation and many more immoral endeavors without doing something about it? A Cconscientious Objector is less immoral than a blind follower however an active antagonist and demonstrator is even less immoral.
Marly61 2 years ago
I agree, even though the mainstream tide of opinion probably doesn't. Its a travesty the actions supported by this country of the "free" world. I'm so glad we(canadians) didn't go to war with the USA against Iraqis. What a waste of time, energy, resources, lives, and a country and its reputation.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
hmmm, so you must spend all your time on youtube and none of it on real news and events cause im pretty sure a few years back you guys were in the war befor one of your own plains killed some of your people, but then again the canadian thing explains alot about your views, you have to much french blood in your people all you do is run away the words canada and war havent been used in the same sentence since 1920's when your people were getting killed by mustard gas
animefreakfrmkg 2 years ago
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aaronkehl 2 years ago
A hundred years ago,the electric telegraph made possible - indeed,inevitable - the United States of America. The communications satellite will make equally inevitable a United Nations of Earth;let us hope that the transition period will not be equally bloody. (Arthur C. Clarke)
The building of the NWO needs energy resources and oil must be central to the world conquest equation.
If NIBIRU comes,the country best in position to survive the cosmic holocaust will stand a chance to realize the NWO.
CommanderUTube 3 years ago
CommanderUsuck, Ok than,hypothetically,you have lost your family and children after they were rapped and tortured as the people in the World Trade Center have to your base value system. It is possible to allow the world's resources to be used for the benefit of all after the NWO sets up institutions and power structures that criminalize and condemn people, like the US neo-con's, for their murderous aggression allowing more civilized people to distribute the world's resources democratically.
Marly61 3 years ago