Getting Blown up in a stryker(part 2)

[alphawhiskey8]

Thank god for Strykers. As I was in the squad leader's hatch, a svbied detonated 10 m in front of us and I'm here today with only a tbi. Im so thankful that I was able to serve as a line medic and roll with the infantry each and every day. Plus the A/C was also a nice touch :-)

[deucedfour]

I see a lot of dumbass comments about what would happen to this vehicle compared to that vehicle if this or that hits it. Hey numbnuts, shut up. EFP's go through armor on an M1. People will find ways to destroy shit. But in our case, we are smarter than you, and realize the limitations of our vehicles and don't push the envelope too far past the boundaries. It's called being SMART. Which some of you obviously aren't. Realize your limitations, your advantages, and go from there.

[SaintsSpecOps]

i it was a m113 everyone would be dead

[mrrodneyalong]

Hey, I will gladly buy tires, these guys are the difference between my fat out of shape ETSed ass staying home or fighting myself- thanks Troops!

[phillyslasher]

4 people ride in Bradleys.

[frightner24]

the paint is scourched and the tires flat... that stryker did its job.... keep the crew protected.

inspected by #22 lol he know how to pick em =P

[MrDman571]

anyone notice the one guy had a airborne patch on wtf

[WRXSubaru08]

@MrDman571 that means he deployed with that airborne unit into a combat zone in his previous tour. The unit that your actually in at the time that patch is placed on your left arm. Id tell ya which one that was but i cant see the patch real clearly

[Michaeltothemax]

@WRXSubaru08 it looks like the 101st airborne

[Disgorge2b]

ameriCUNT getting nlownjob in a stryker

[technoman43]

@Disgorge2b wow what a loser

[Disgorge2b]

@technoman43 typical ameriCUNTs loser

[technoman43]

@Disgorge2b that was even lamer douchbag haha

[spazoflondon]

wat ever u say about it it still a few dollars of ied equiptment taking out $2 million IFV

[daveme7]

@spazoflondon You are probably right. of course a friend was killed in a Bradley Fighting Vehicle as they had to look for soup or teeth and not much of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. As it seems some captain america would tell us that the under belly of Strykers are the most vulnerable-well lets say that would be correct for any armored vehicle.

[spazoflondon]

@daveme7 sorry to here about ur loss and ur own personal injury, i think these vehicles perticulary the stryker give out a false sens of security, poor vision and the fact u can't hide a armored vehicle in a drainage ditch or trench has to give disadvantges to beasts like this. i gess thats why soldeirs get such as shock when this happens.

[52111centrumcz]

@daveme7

Look at for example the Golam MRAP - the bottom is V shaped and as strong as the rest of the vehicle - can withstand 10 pounds of TNT - something that would rip open the bottom of a stryker.

[daveme7]

@52111centrumcz Do not know enough as I had been in an FMTV supply vehicle in 2004 in Tal-Afar. Point is-most vehicles regardless of how much armor on the topside will always have a weakness somewhere along the line. People die and get wounded in combat. Many in stryker units understand this(me was in 2-14 Cav out of Lewis). For the record-I was a supply sgt and should be dead, I am not, and thank the lord fopr keeping me alive.

[52111centrumcz]

@daveme7 I am railing against the product shills who keep pushing the stryker as the best of the best and unexceeded quality vehicle when in fact it is at best a mediocre vehicle with substandard off-road performance and thin armor - basically an american version of the BTR-80.

I do not hate on the users of the vehicles, there is no need and it is not their fault that the equipment that they were given is at best normal, at worst sub-standard.

[MatoVuc]

gee, those other strykers in the backgroundidleing are so quite i almost didn't even notice them..............

[zaco21]

You wouldn't have gotten better protection from a M113.

[capufool]

Ive seen a stryker hit such a heavy IED it lifted off the ground and fliped over

[ssgduke56]

Isn't amazingly that we get REMFs , FOBBITs, Wanna Be(s) and FAKERs who think they know better then those who have been in the Stryker vehicle!!! Unless you are in the Army, especially a Infantryman that shoots, drives, commands the vehicle then keep to your opinions to yourselves. Those that have been in the Stryker Vehicle I salute you and respect your opinion!

SSG Duke (Retire, U.S. Army Infantry)

[lynxfootball4life]

@ssgduke56 thank you finally somebody said it

[Soprano313]

@ssgduke56

+1

My MOS is Cav Scout 19D, so i'll be getting real familiar with the Stryker. I ship out to Fort Knox next month.

[52111centrumcz]

@ssgduke56

No offense, but you don't need to be a marathon runner to understand who won a race. In the arms race, a styker is at best in the middle of the pack. There are many superior vehicles to it with a simmilar price that could be built in the US pending a license. such as the AMV patria (superior armor) or others, which have better mobility, better fuel economy and superior gun optics. And since most stryker crews HAVE NO COMPARISON since they only drive strykers, they can't say either.

[MrBlowmeladies]

strykers blow ass that's all I have to say

[thenoobfactor]

The M1 had alot contriversy too then the 1991 gulf war happened, and it completely destroyed all before it.

[IWannabeJew]

@thenoobfactor I don't remember controversy about the M1 Abrams. I remember controversy about the M2 Bradley. (Served in the Army in the late 80's.

Gulf 1 was hardly a real test of the M1 Abrams offensive capabilities. The Abrams was the hot knife cutting through butter.

[driftbuddy]

all veicals have flaws that is what makes em great!!!! i just take one lemon and the media call em coffins i know 2 of my best frends who survived cuase of this beast

[TheGreenSmoke]

no one in the fucking united states army calls the M113 a "Gavin" unless they're drinking Mike Spark's koolaid and are smoking crack.

[gosciu555]

@TheGreenSmoke

"drinking Mike Spark's koolaid"

Which would be?

[TheGreenSmoke]

are you replying to me? you're just a fucking DEP and you're not even a fucking recruit yet. learn some fucking discipline and respect or your military career will be shit.

[TheGreenSmoke]

what the fuck is a gavin? no one in the us army calls the m113  a gavin

[soldierboy218]

is a big ugly mother fucker that they used in vietname and it sucked back then and damnit it sucks even more now ive been in them and the strykers and ill take the stryker over that ugly bitch any day.

[deucedfour]

yf681, so if you can take out a strykers tires with broken glass, why did one stryker in my unit drive over 10 miles back to the fob with 8 blown out tires. Oh what's that? It might be that mound of rubber over the wheel called RUN FLAT YOU FUCKING MORON. My Bn took 10+ direct hits by suicide car bombers, and only two people have ever died from them. Hell we had to rescue an M1 when they knocked his track out. Go spew your hot air somewhere else you lying sack of shit.

[soldierboy218]

easy battle these civilian retards dont know shit that they dont see in tv. take it from a retired sgt. they arent worth your anger however those haji morons are worth it.

[deucedfour]

I know, but man do these retards piss me off. One retard hears it from another, then passes it on to another. Next thing you know, this whole thread is spammed up with retards talking jibberish about what they "know".

[daveme7]

@deucedfour What I learned in Iraq: When you are the supply sgt and your driver is a 19D pleeding to let him gun on a .50 CAL in a supply vehicloe-let him gun! The other thing being show up on fucking time and let others ponder why this matters

[101andrewj]

@deucedfour your right... altho the stryker is lightly armored, it is much more mobile, and can continue to drive away from a killzone even when 20% of the vehicle is destroyed, yet if you take out a m1 tracks or optics, it becomes useless

[cgrant26]

@101andrewj

All M1s have auxilliary optics. (Gunner's Aux Sight) If the GPS gets knocked out, it can still fire fairly accurately using the GAS, albiet without the assist of stabilization or the fire control computer. As a matter of fact, some of the Gunnery engagements are done with the GPS ballistic doors closed to simulate it being disabled. On the M1A2, the CITV adds even a third independant sighting system.

[101andrewj]

@cgrant26 ok, so shoot all 3

[cgrant26]

@101andrewj

LOL, good luck with that.

CITV and GPS are up top and are obvious targets, but good luck even finding the GAS much less hitting it. It's a small hole under the main gun block and recessed pretty deep down a 4" wide hole. You would have to be staring down the barrel of the main gun to even have a shot at hitting the optics at which point you've probably already been reduced to red mist.

[101andrewj]

@cgrant26 hit the gps for the blue force tracker, and the tank is no longer on friendly radars, then it may get shot by friendly fire... this happened several times in the 91 gulf war... not 2 mention several abrams being disabled from grenade, mine and anti tank rifles.... i know it is difficult to disable a MBT with say a 14.5 or 20mm rifle, but if you get the right chance, and are skilled and lucky enough, it can and has been done

[cgrant26]

@101andrewj

It's true that even 7.62mm small-arms fire can disable an Abrams if placed in *just* the right place. In the interest of opsec, I'm not going to say where, but suffice it to say, it would take specific knowledge and a little luck.

As for a GPS mounted blue force tracker, I've never heard of that before. I spent 4 years working on both the M1A1 and M1A2. The A2's nav system sends position and IFF data through the radio stack. It's not tied into the GPS at all.

[101andrewj]

@cgrant26 under the turret above the hull, thru the back of the engine compartment, thru the barrell or any of the front optics... is your best bet when shooting high caliber rifles at weak points... and in 91, several m1s and bradlys wer hit by small mobility kill mines, and this damaged its radio transmiter or antenna, and for whatever reason they no longer wer transmitting... and american air support was shooting at any and everything that wasnt blue, even in the dark or in dust storms

[cgrant26]

@101andrewj Small arms fire will do nothing to the turret ring. Back of the engine compartment has an *extremely* small chance of hitting an oil line and that would take a lucky ricochet. Through the barrel is no good too. No small arms round will penetrate the projectile enough to reach the powder charge. Not a chance. The front optics are much tougher than they look and will not crack or even chip from a 5.56 NATO round. (ask me how I know, lol)

Move up to .50 BMG and the story changes.

[101andrewj]

@cgrant26 well that is what i was talkin about... clearly you arnt going 2 disable a main battle tank with a m16.... it would take a .50 bmg with special ammunition, or a larger gun like a 14.5mm or 20mm, and a very lucky and well placed shot, but it could be done...

[52111centrumcz]

@101andrewj

If you had a M203 on the M16 and you fired a WP incendiary grenade on the top rear deck above the engine you could pretty much burn it out.

[101andrewj]

@52111centrumcz well luckly none of americas current enemys have those type of grenades

[Icehellfier]

If i had a choice of rolling in any curently in production and use vehicle i would pick the bradly fast agile and can take down just about any "modern" foe. only theater of war iwouldnt whant ot fight in a bradly would be russia or china just becasue of there advanced combat capability not to mention numbers.

[joemarket700]

Yeah, man

The Stryker is quite good, everyone who have rided in a Stryker knows that it's very protected and that the crew have pretty good weapons to defend the vehicle, i don't understand why so many critics

[Cobra666Commander]

Problem with the Stryker is that it didn't do what they say it could. Can't be loaded into a C-130, armor isn't what they claimed it would be (much better than riding in a HMMVW of course). And for it's cost it's not as great as other similar systems fielded by other countries.

[gosciu555]

@joemarket700

Huh? Well protected from what? HE, what about 50cal from the side or RPG? What about getting stuck in the mud?

[joemarket700]

It can take on RPG fire and it sure can also sustain 50cal damage, it depends where it hits. It's a light tranport vehicle, you dont want it to be so heavy that it will only go by 10km/h

[52111centrumcz]

@joemarket700

Look at a BTR-4. Its a ukrainian built vehicle (I am not ukrainian just so u know) and it weighs about 25 tons, can withstand .50 cal MG fire and with ERA even an RPG. A KTO Rosomak - which is a AMV Patria vehicle built to Polish specs - withstood a direct RPG hit to the frontal mexas armor and was not penetrated. You just have to know how to build quality vehicles, not be a corporate welfare freeloading money black hole like GDLS.

[totticommando07]

I think if the troops like it stay with the Striker if they dont like trash move the Striker to the graveyard.  The opinion and expierence of the troops always matters fuck the pencil pushers!!!!

[ryanoose]

money money money. even if it means a total piece of this designed by military men and engineers that wouldnt be caught dead in it in the field, well thats probably where they would be caught, good luck getting them in one

[AngelOfNight9]

Anyone who says a Stryker is garbage is clueless. It's the best thing to have ever entered the infantry world. Our Stryker unit, 3-2, 1/23 were the best to have ever gone through NTC last month, to get ready for our deployment. by the words of the OC's themselves because of our patrolling and security, the mobility of the Stryker is a part of that. The use of the RWS to man the 50cal or MK 19 bye control. Also, you blow a track off you go nowhere but in a circle, you blow 4 tires u still drive

[sgthooah84]

how about you not post your unit on the net. or the results of ntc..

how bout that comanche

[TacticalDude2]

STOP SPAMMING!

[thehappygooch]

its funny to hear you guys talking so much shit about something most of you probably don't have a clue about.

[nimbusxc]

the tires can still roll after being blown out because there's a solid rubber lining around the rim. I think its something like up to 50 mph with 8 blown out tires

[macmarine]

Nope, only 4 of the 8 wheels are run-flats! Stryker = EPIC FAIL! Except for the manufacturer and the politicos and army brass whose pockets are lined with your money.

[shaaauuu]

Strykers can roll on 8 flats

[YF681]

You have been lied to sorry...

[YF681]

STRYKERs are such POS

[blckserria]

umm pretty much everyone of are wrong when tires are brought in they are brought in on pallets, all of them run are run flats.

[MapleBalls]

@macmarine Every Tire Is A Run-Flat On The Bison, Coyote & LAV-III. Why Would A Striker Only Have 4? That Dosn't Make Any Sense, Especially Since You Guys Throw Just As Much, Some Times More Shit On Then We Do.  LAV-Light Armored Vehicle. Its Not IMF1SKE-Indestructible Mother Fucking 1 Shot Kill Everyone. Its War Retard, Every 20-30 Assholes You Kill, Your Going To Have To Expect 1 Or 2 Of Them To Get Lucky & Get You Back, Some Way Eventually, That's Life. Go Back To Your WII & Ice cream.

[TombKaios]

I like the Stryker and all but why put tires on it?

[AJKILLS]

I'm not 100% sure, but my guess is that if one tire blows, you have 3 others to depend on. If there was only 2 tires on each side, like a humvee, if a tire blows, the vehicle will still be able to  function without any problems until it is safe enough to fix it.

[YF681]

The STRYKER weighs 21-22 tons combat loaded 4 tires wont support that so they make it have 8 tires to decrease the ground pressure. Even with 8 tires the GP is insanely high and it cannot leave the road which is a recipe for disaster.

[shaaauuu]

Because if you put a track on it and it breaks, ur screwed.

[YF681]

It is harder to throw a track than have your tires burned, or slashed and its easier to fix a thrown track than change a tire.

[ansymo67]

Have you ever changed a track..let alone during combat? I have...and changing a tire is easier!

[YF681]

And I can burn your tire out with a molotov immediately. you probably won't admit it but hadji stays away from tracks cause they are harder to disable. In a wheeled vehicle you can't roll over broken glass let alone fortifications. also tracks give you better mobility anywhere you go, even offroad. Right now I'm working on a tracked multipurpose vehicle that weighs less than 12 tons can go almost conceivably anywhere and go toe-to-toe with an MBT. How many wheels can do that?

[jawehawk]

wow that was a lot of BS you just let out. The tires used on the STRYKER will not break from just driving over glass. And your building a multi purpose vehicle? sure.....

[anthony9thompson]

I suppose by now you must have completed work on your new vehicle?

[Hairysteed]

@ansymo67 And you suppose changing a tire on a Stryker is just as easy as changing a tire on your car? Do you think that tanks have those extra track segments on them just for extra protection?

[Hairysteed]

@ansymo67 How much do Stryker tires cost?

[emtpilot132]

Good ol arctic wolves, what battalion was this?

[someKID1493]

so is this like one of the safest things to roll around in iraq?

[NTRLflvr]

supposedly

[astupiddvdcase]

we should plant IEDs on IEDs to IED the IEDers .

[ArmySoldier17]

lol dude

[wraithman07]

you realize that that makes No sense, although it sounds damn funny, lol

[VBH8888]

@astupiddvdcase yea thats stupid why would you go back and look at what you planted ???

[pogisiG]

@astupiddvdcase plant IED's in your ass and have a party in your mouth :O

[Justowner]

@astupiddvdcase Hey bro, I heard you like IEDs, so we put IEDs in yo IEDs so you can IED while you IED.

[reliablethreat23]

glad to see you boys are alright.

[xgetsmokedx]

rpg cages ftw! I rode in lav-25's last push..

[centurion1945]

I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the traffic cone mangled in the slat armor and wonder how on earth that got there. The fact that the stryker took such a hit, and you guys were able to drive the thing back to the FOB with no apparent harm to the crew is a testament to this vehicle. Take care you brave men hopefully that will never happen to you again.

[crazyheeb]

Its a part of the Escalation of force kit.

We toss them on the truck when we mount back up.

[HippyHunterkj]

Good effort numbnuts. You still lose.

[HippyHunterkj]

So that makes you an expert on everything the military will ever do? No, you fucking moron. Simply putting on a uniform, then claiming right, doesn't give you a deep understanding or anything beyond the precise specifics of what you did in a day. The issues you discuss here are far beyond your pay grade, your understanding, and your education. Let the experts handle issues like defense budgeting and expenditure; leaving yourself to operate, however expertly, a mop bucket and gum scraper.

[No1118117]

So far hes got better credentials than you tough guy. I'd trust someone thats served to know what they're talking about when it comes to equipment they've actually used.

[HippyHunterkj]

Dumbass, pay attention. Just because it is written on the internet doesn't make it true. I know you want to believe that poeple don't lie, but they do. Use common sense. How exactly would a Molotov-coctail burn it down? Think about that for a minute. A coctail in the wheels of my truck wouldn't burn it down.....so... So, it's best to believe what was written anonymously on youtube.

[No1118117]

So are you working in a position that gets you insider information on the defence industry, specifically in the area of APCs? No, so shut the fuck up.

[HippyHunterkj]

Neither are you, or anyone else here. In fact, if we are trying to settle the debate, beyond arguing common sense, we should consult one of the engineers that worked on the project; or someone who knows better than youtube video commentators. Which, in turn proves my entire point over again. Thanks for the exercise in repetition. Are you done, or are you the type that needs the last word? You can have it.

[HippyHunterkj]

Says who? Some internet tough guy from his moms basement?

[Theallseeingeye91]

stupid??? thats all u can say about americans??? stupid, you forgot that they have the strongest military in the world and they can blow any country out of the water they wont blow up iraq because they dont want the whole world fighting them!so think about what u say and get to respecting americans cause theres a reason they have the best economy, the best military(that can shit on U becuase they can),theres also a reason that so many people always want america to get involved in world conflicts

[saviger]

Ive Limped back to the FOB with all 8 tires flat and a engine fire. So in my book the Stryker is the shit. Oh and 0 casualties BTW.

[Fox111one111eleven1]

One day in the very near future you're going to fight a real enemy. In this scenaro your unit just stopped because a landmine just ripped the tires to shreds on a stryker. You have two choices. (Right) Leave them and move on to the objectvie. (Wrong) stop and help them. Meanwhile your unit gets gunned down because no one made the observation that you walked into an ambush and dismounted. One stryker down in the field just tied up a lot of resouces. Good thing no one's shooting at you this time.

[aviomaster]

--- DO not worry IRAQ will pay for all lost USA army vehicles ... 250.000.000.000 barrels of CRUDE OIL .. converted to dollars ,,,, around 25.000.000.000.000 DOLLARS ...

[atlboy82]

How does my comment and yours go together? I was proving that the Stryker was a good combat vehicle, and all you said was Americans are stupid. You're not making much sense, then again Germans aren't known for their intelligence.

[tinomal]

theyre back on the FOB, see the gray t-walls in the background?? now whos the Stupid fuck?

[novamongoose]

and they scrapped the Crusader for this POS?

[kramnahillac]

all the troops survived didnt they? thats what really counts in combat the vehicle is a small cost compared to the life of a soldier.

[Trusten1984]

Holy moses, the the wheels are blow up, by fragments !

[atlboy82]

See how all of your anti-Stryker comments keep getting killed? Sucks don't it?

[24stubone]

we limped our stryker back to the base,so that mean we were able to stand around without worry

[aviomaster]

--- STRIKER .... hahahaha ... LUCKY for them IRAQ does not have a lot of  RPG-29 ... and KORNET-E missiles .....

[flyingv747]

Damn !! these infidels were like sitting ducks, Will get them next time and ship them back in body bags. Or probably they might be even dead by now.

[lilpup15406]

Daam...I hope who ever was in it is ok =]

God bless yall n take care!