The only problem is... Breivik really doesn't believe in Jesus.
Quoting from Wikipedia on Anders Behring Brevik: "The manifesto states its author (...) is not "excessively religious" and considers himself a "cultural Christian" (...) calls religion a crutch and a source for drawing mental strength (...) stated that "myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God.""
What do you think of that Mr. Pajama-Wearin', Basket-Face, Slipper-Wieldin', Clype-Dreep-Bachle, Gether-Upin'-Blate-Maw, Bleatherin', Gomeril, Jessie, Oaf-Lookin', Scooner, Nyaff, Plookie, Shan, Milk-Drinkin', Soy-Faced Shilpit, Mim-Moothed, Snivelin', Worm-Eyed, Hotten-Blaugh, Vile-Stoochie, Cally-Breek-Tatties
@AkasakaS2000: IF Jesus had one millionth of the documentation (0.000001%) that George Washington had, people would believe. God would not even need a trillionth.
And as I have tried to explain to others, just because you are a Christian and others who claim they are also Christians, does not immunize you, or them, from doing very evil things and even doing them in the name of your "Faith". All the history Claire mentioned has real documentation and historical precedant.
O'Reilly, O'Reilly....isn't that Irish? I seem to remember something about Catholics and Protestants murdering each other there, too. Of course, I saw that on the news, not in a history book.
I am tempted to claim that as violent denialists of reality, Bill-O & Breivik, and of course the entire News Corp cult, are true, traditional Christians. I don't think this is painting with a broad brush, or painting at all. I think their actions of terrorism, speak quite clearly. Though there are probably quite a few who feel that the violence of brainwashing, en-mass, does not qualify as terrorism. I say look at the results of their actions, and tell another one.
@Halo4Clips Nothing. It has to do with a logical fallacy committed by Billo that is often referred to as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. It goes like this: 1) Seamus claims to be a Scotsman; 2) all true Scotsmen drink whiskey; 3) Sheamus doesn't drink whisky; 4) therefore, Seamus is no true Scotsman. In this case Billo claimed someone couldn't be "a believer in Jesus" and also be a mass murderer (no TRUE Christian would commit mass murder).
@jimbob1969 It's a logical fallacy that runs like this. Person A: "No Scotsman likes porridge". Person B: "My Uncle Angus in Glasgow has porridge for breakfast about every other morning." Person A: "No -true- Scotsman likes porridge!" What Bill O'Reilly is doing is claiming that if you commit murder, you're not a true Christian. It's trying to claim the example doesn't count when, in fact, there are plenty of others.
@jimbob1969 The video concerns a logical fallacy often referred to as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. It goes like this: 1) Seamus claims to be a Scotsman; 2) all true Scotsmen drink whiskey; 3) Seamus doesn't drink whisky; 4) therefore, Seamus is no true Scotsman. Billo claimed someone couldn't be "a believer in Jesus" and also be a mass murderer. I regret that your massive ignorance prevented you from understanding the content of this video. You have my sympathy.
The IRA and UVF are a modern day Christian terrorist groups. I appreciate that there are a great deal more examples than a sensibly timed video will allow, but they're probably the most relevant entries to have included.
@GuruEvi It might have been a good idea to include somethign from Northern Ireland. However, the wars would have led to endless debate leading in a circle.
You forgot the inquisitions and burnings, you manly focused on wars. You forgot to add the 100 years war which both sides claimed christian superiority. I know there are no recorded deaths in this but the cold war was fueled in large part because of christian groups.
@ravenheart93 How do you know what I "forgot?" Has it occurred to you that I was timing the events to the music in order to limit the length of the video? Yours is one of the more common comments I have recived on this video, and I can only conlcude that many either wanted their favorite atrocity included or wanted a video that was roughly the same length as the documentary "Shoah."
@WildwoodClaire1 I'm sorry if I offended. I didn't mean to sound condemning. I understand that it's hard to go everything. I love the video thou, I am just cynical and need to give criticism all the time. Again, I'm sorry.
I'm kind of surprised that I've not seen any Christians speaking out on his behalf since in their minds, he can confess his sins to the Almighty Father and ask for forgiveness, and because of the Blood of the Lamb that was sacrificed for his salvation, be restored to the loving embrace of his Christian family and have life everlasting in the Heavenly Kingdom, Amen.
Bill O'Reilly should look up the name "Richard Snell". And he should pay special attention to 1) the name of the organization he was a member of, 2) what he intended to do (and particularly what specific building he intended to do it to), and 3) the precise date of his execution.
You Celtophobe! How dare you forget to mention Cromwell's atrocities in Ireland! Just kidding, if you listed all of the crimes of Christianity it would be days long.
@WildwoodClaire1 If, and only if, you contained not one iota of info, just a quick listing of the major wars, purges, inquistions, and other crimes against humanity. Otherwise, it would be longer than the lifetime of any single human to ever really exist.
0:48, "Noone believing in Jesus, commits mass murder!" What an assertion! We all know periods in history when atrocities have been committed by Christians. Theologians sometimes admit this (they have no choice, history proves it), but then they try to find apologetics.
@Iamthegreatification It doesn't have anything to do with Scotland. It has to do with a fallacious assertion. Obviously, you are unfamiliar with a type of fallacy known as the "No True Scotsman fallacy."
Fox news in general puts out A LOT of IGNORANT comments, but Bill has got to be the most IGNORANT, SELF-CENTERED, CHRISTIAN DICK I have ever heard in my 53 years of life!
One thing that I find interesting is one would think that the pundits and politicians would be our brightest and best...but alas this is not the case. You've got scientific illiterates of all stripes at all levels of the media and official offices.
Ah, the skrailing of the pipes. It does the heart good. Sadly, no Scottish games here abouts, so I'm left yearning for the wailing screech of the pipe. Worse still, they call the fiddle a violin here.
POW! hahaha yes, poor self-deluded Bill. When reality starts rearing its ugly head, IGNORE IT, DENY IT, RUN FROM IT, but never admit defeat! nice vid.
Apparently forgot all southamerica 's natives that were massacred or forcefully converted to christianity, It was a massive demonstration of christian love, so much in fact that several kinds of tribes went into extinction after that, and with them their dialects, art, music.. etc.
The truth of the matter is that Bill's show is an opinion show, so he can feel free to opine and even flat out lie all he wants. Just ignore him, he's a freakin' pinhead!
1# more killings and Wars Have Been Corsed by Religions & by Beliefs and in the Name of this and that..... than Atheist or Atheism, throw out Time.
religious people are Bad 4 this Planet. shows it from the stats of History. and any Believer wants to Prove me wrong go ahead and try prove me wrong..... if u can . & Flaggers and Spammers are Cowards to debate me. shockofgod coward, thirdaleage guy = Coward, and many others have tryed, and its a cowardly thig to just Block when u have NO ANSWER
But Claire, Bill has such an easy retort! None of those people were true Christians either. Clearly, if they committed mass murder they could not have honestly believed in Jesus. The logic is air tight! :P
While you are calling this No True Scotsman, I would add in the Scottish Reformation, which started in the 16th century and saw Scotland in just a few years go from being known as "The Pope's special daughter" to the most Presbytarian country in the world, with mass bloodshed of both Roman Catholics and Protestants for over 200 years. Almost 500 years later, religious bigotry on both sides is the scourge and the shame of my proud, little country and I say a plague on both their houses.
I believe that most thinking people can tell just what a hypocrite that Brill Opad'Reilly is. If not then they are brainwashed to believe everything that they hear.
@WildwoodClaire1 If you purposely left it out with the hope someone would point it out just so you could use this line my respect for your craftiness has jumped.
Interesting that Bill O'Reilly would say Breivik wasn't a true Christian. That is what I was taught by my Evangelical upbringing about Roman Catholics. Catholics were members of a cult just like Mormons, Lutherens, Muslims, Bhuddists, Hindus, etc. etc.......
That's to be expected. Everyone thinks their religion is the 'one true religion' and that everyone else is wrong for some reason or another. It's little more than an arrogant ego trip ultimately.
@WildwoodClaire1 I would almost argue that any colonizing was partially an act of perceiving divine right over non christians around the world. Destruction of people not only in the Americas, but throughout most of Africa and Asia as well. That kind of destruction included mass murder of uncalculable magnitude.
@MrSamuelSpade Bush's war in Iraq has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with greed, gluttony and maybe a bit of revenge if you remember the fact that Bush's father also went to war in Iraq (tho for more justifiable reasons) but was unable to actually remove Saddam from power all those decades ago.
Not that I am defending religion here, I am an Atheist, but sometimes we need to acknowledge that there is more to the immorality in this world then just religious beliefs.
@DoomsdayR3sistance Actually it was Bush Sr and his advisors that said don't continue into Iraq. They stopped after retaking Kuwait because it wasn't necessary to go on.
@lautz73 I am aware of that. That doesn't mean Jr. does tho or if he does that he liked that Saddam essentially got away with all the deaths he caused...
@DoomsdayR3sistance Jr went into Iraq with a false report of WMD's. Even the UN (an organization that I dislike) said that Iraq had none yet Jr goes in anyway. Jr's reasons had nothing to do with Saddam at all. He went in there on the orders of big oil (and his own pocketbook) to get the oil or a better deal on the oil from OPEC.
@lautz73 This is why I left Greed and Gluttony as the most significant points, I only said more on revenge to explain how it too could have been a possible motivator. There is also the issue that Iraq had switched from trading Oil in US Dollars to European Euros which also would have in the longer run had an impact on the US economy.
If Bill wanted to go where there is a disproportionately high number of Christians, he should go to a prison. According to his logic, there shouldn't be any murderers there.
for thos wondering jesus was a roman catholic (same ass mr.bill here) talked about how god told him to kill the jewish that they where the arianrace they even blessed the mad man...
And of course Bill is a Muslim hate preacher - and guess what Bill, Muslims believe in Jesus too.
The Qur'an mentions Jesus more often by name than Muhammad. It states he was born to Mary - a virgin birth. To aid God in his ministry to the Jewish people, He performed miracles by the permission of God rather than using his own power. And he was not crucified but was raised up by God through ascension.
I do think that if a person follows Christ's example, it would be difficult to do something like that. OTOH, as your video shows so well, Christ's teachings have been ignored by the faithful for millenia!
@christo930 I do not think adherence to Christianity leads one to commit atrocities. However, it doesn't prevent one from commiting atrocities either, as demonstrated thousands of times in history.
@WildwoodClaire1 adherence to xianity (or other religions) can lead one to commit atrocities, although maybe only in rare cases. but it surely does help a lot to justifie said atrocities.
@WildwoodClaire1 Yes, I agree.That is why I said that Christ's teachings have been ignored by the faithful for millenia.. Thanks for your videos, I love them.
@christo930 Bill O'Reily ignores Christs teachings... however this type of behavior is encouraged in the Old Testament and while Christ does overrule a lot of it in the new testament it's still a book filled with horrors and atrocities in the old testament. Interestingly tho, Jesus doesn't over rule everything from the old testament, he still allowed slavery... What Jesus teaches after all is the worst position you are in while keeping the faith the more you'll be rewarded, while the rich burn.
@christo930 which one? The Old Testament? Maybe, I am not as familiar with it's beginnings but the bible itself, the new testament was written by priests and preachers to bias Christianity to following the rule of the Vatican. There were many Gospels around at the time and the majority were simply ignored, tossed out or thrown away. This one book approached failed in the long run but was more successfully replicated by the "Qu'ran" what replaced out several competing Qu'rans.
Just like Billo encouraged people like Scott Roeder to rid the world of George TIller, even to the point he "MURDERED" Tiller in a CHURCH! I would like Billo to review that great education he got, and remember, he used to be a teacher! Shame and embarrassment are not something you learn, I guess, not if you believe in your personal version of Jeebus. Where is the humility?
The fictional character "Jehovah God of Armies" - yes, God Almighty who goes by so many aliases was a murderous psychopath who would have made Adolf Hitler look like Gandhi in comparison. Since the other fictional character Jesus Christ was this thug's chief deputy, hell - dying as he would with his abusive Daddy's approval, wellllll, of course then he would fit in this same category. So is it any wonder that Christians today pick up this mantle and go sniffing for blood? That BozO' Reilly!
And let's not forget the Kosovo conflicts and the Muslim mass murders where national and religious identity became mixed up in mass murdering civilians. Religion nearly destroyed the economy and society of former Yugoslavia and did deep and lasting damage to its people and culture.
@JohnHenryAlex i don't think that the phrase "there are no atheists in foxholes" is supposed to be taken literally...i think it's just used to describe that being in foxholes is so pants wettingly scary that it would make one turn to god even if they're atheist...i probably worded that terribly but you get what i'm trying to say right?
This video is the actual fallacy. Argument from fallacy or fallacy of relevence. Brevik was an atheist he tells us that in his manifesto so O'Reillys fallacy is irrelevent his conclusion was still true, albeit poorly argued.
@DontBendOverForAllah This video addresses the statement "no true Christian could commit mass murder" and it identfies a small number of the thousands of atrocities committed by Christians. Why are you in denial?
@DontBendOverForAllah your comment is the actual fallacy. Argument from fallacy of fallacy of fallacy.
Fallacyception!
And btw brevik said he was 100% a christian, a cultural christian, pro-christian, a self-professed modern-day crusader and he clearly had a lingering belief in the christian god considering he prayed to it, despite his criticism of the church. People who pray aren't atheists.
@DontBendOverForAllah And by the way, here is a direct quote from the Breivik manifesto: "At the age of 15, I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100 percent Christian."
“If praying will act as an additional mental boost/soothing it is the pragmatical thing to do. I guess I will find out… If there is a God I will be allowed to enter heaven as all other martyrs for the Church in the past.”
and another:
“I’m not going to pretend I’m a very religious person as that would be a lie. I’ve always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment.”
@AmetReloads Breivik’s idea of “cultural Christianity” “it is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus.”
and this:“[t]he Church and church leaders will not be allowed to influence non-cultural political matters in any way. This includes science, research and development and all non-cultural areas .. also include all areas relating to procreation/birth/fertility policies and related issues of scientific importance"
And before anyone claims the Crusades were some kind of 'defence against Islam'- and if you do wanna make that claim I dare you to debate me on it- even if we let that go, lets not ignore the many Jewish pogroms that took place on the way to the 'holy land'.
At the risk of committing godwins fallacy I think you missed out Hitler. Hate to harp on about that but he was kind of a catholic (I think, don't ask me for my source because i can't remember but if not a catholic then some other christian denomination at least).
@WildwoodClaire1 altough you cant put everything in the video. i think too hitler is an important example and shouldnt be left out. (even if its only to conter all the arguments about "itler was an atheist"(and whole nazi germany too?) beforehand.) its probably also because you stopped the timeline just when i expected hilter & co to be brought up. still your point is clear though and its a great vid.
Just like his tides ignorance. Can we really expect anything accurate coming from Billy O's mouth? What a tool. FOX only hires tools and fools who have thown their journalistic ethics out the window.
holy crap,no one who believes in Jesus commits mass murder. that might seriously be the wrongest statement Bill has ever made,and for someone who is wrong about almost everything he's ever said,thats fucking amazing. I think it could be safely argued that Christians are for probably the last 1500 years at least,the world leader in mass murder,and the ones doing the killing are the REAL christians,the rest ignore 3/4 of the book
You could also mention Charlemagne, Pope Theophilus of Alexandria, the Massacre of Mérindol in 1545, St. Bartholomew's Day massacre in 1572, Fort Matanzas massacre in 1565, and of course the Rwanda genocide in 1994. And if you really want to get picky, you could mention the American Civil War 1861-65, where Christians on both sides gleefully slaughtered each other with both knowing they had God on their side.
@Juicexlx Other than having Celtic heritage and having formerly spoken a Celtic language? You Do understand the reference to a "No True Scotsman's Fallacy," right?
@WildwoodClaire1 I'm of French descent, so I'm culturally unfamiliar with the concept. Although it does tells me something now that you speak of ''fallacy''... Scots are quite proud of their ''true blood'' heritage : )
@Juicexlx The video would have been as applicable to O'Reilly's statement had he been born in Marakesh. A "No True Sctosman Fallacy" is an error of logic involving set theory.
@WildwoodClaire1 I see. Speaking of fallacious, have a look at this. It's Rick Perry's speech at his praying event earlier this morning. Brace yourself for some serious Creationists' crap and illogical discourse!! Eww!
lol i love how he criticizes them for playing up religion while he does it to muslims all the fucking time
PirateMonkeyFilmz 3 months ago in playlist More videos from WildwoodClaire1
The only problem is... Breivik really doesn't believe in Jesus.
Quoting from Wikipedia on Anders Behring Brevik: "The manifesto states its author (...) is not "excessively religious" and considers himself a "cultural Christian" (...) calls religion a crutch and a source for drawing mental strength (...) stated that "myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God.""
For the record: Bill O'Reilly is still a tool.
Gewath 4 months ago
What do you think of that Mr. Pajama-Wearin', Basket-Face, Slipper-Wieldin', Clype-Dreep-Bachle, Gether-Upin'-Blate-Maw, Bleatherin', Gomeril, Jessie, Oaf-Lookin', Scooner, Nyaff, Plookie, Shan, Milk-Drinkin', Soy-Faced Shilpit, Mim-Moothed, Snivelin', Worm-Eyed, Hotten-Blaugh, Vile-Stoochie, Cally-Breek-Tatties
Quartzzzz 4 months ago
@Quartzzzz Yer ruude!
davidiainmcmahon 6 days ago
No one believing in Jesus commits mass murderer. - Bill O' Reilly. How wrong he was. Love the irony of this video.
angrygirlmasochist 6 months ago
Don't tell me that inquisition, witch hunting and all those crap are not done by Christians...
We have faith in history books? Well, if u hv faith in a moral pornography, why cant we hv a little faith in a descriptive book?
Besides, do u have "faith" that George Washington once existed?
P.S. As always, fox TV = false TV <----sorry for my Chinese accent!
AkasakaS2000 6 months ago
@AkasakaS2000: IF Jesus had one millionth of the documentation (0.000001%) that George Washington had, people would believe. God would not even need a trillionth.
And as I have tried to explain to others, just because you are a Christian and others who claim they are also Christians, does not immunize you, or them, from doing very evil things and even doing them in the name of your "Faith". All the history Claire mentioned has real documentation and historical precedant.
RyuDarragh 6 months ago
@RyuDarragh
...Well, I hope you notice that mine's a satire... sorry again for my poor English.
P.S. I am a Christian... no more <---- no satire here
AkasakaS2000 6 months ago
You left out "Destruction of European Jews and Ehtnic Minorities", 1938-1947...
RyuDarragh 6 months ago
O'Reilly, O'Reilly....isn't that Irish? I seem to remember something about Catholics and Protestants murdering each other there, too. Of course, I saw that on the news, not in a history book.
tctheunbeliever 6 months ago
I am tempted to claim that as violent denialists of reality, Bill-O & Breivik, and of course the entire News Corp cult, are true, traditional Christians. I don't think this is painting with a broad brush, or painting at all. I think their actions of terrorism, speak quite clearly. Though there are probably quite a few who feel that the violence of brainwashing, en-mass, does not qualify as terrorism. I say look at the results of their actions, and tell another one.
DonQuixotedeKaw 6 months ago in playlist A-4-U
@Halo4Clips Nothing. It has to do with a logical fallacy committed by Billo that is often referred to as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. It goes like this: 1) Seamus claims to be a Scotsman; 2) all true Scotsmen drink whiskey; 3) Sheamus doesn't drink whisky; 4) therefore, Seamus is no true Scotsman. In this case Billo claimed someone couldn't be "a believer in Jesus" and also be a mass murderer (no TRUE Christian would commit mass murder).
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
O'Reilly has been grossly misunderstood. He actually meant: "No. One, believing in Jesus, commits murder."
DoctorPlausible 6 months ago
What the fuck has this to do with Scotland ya daft bitch.
jimbob1969 6 months ago
@jimbob1969 It's a logical fallacy that runs like this. Person A: "No Scotsman likes porridge". Person B: "My Uncle Angus in Glasgow has porridge for breakfast about every other morning." Person A: "No -true- Scotsman likes porridge!" What Bill O'Reilly is doing is claiming that if you commit murder, you're not a true Christian. It's trying to claim the example doesn't count when, in fact, there are plenty of others.
TelenTerror 6 months ago
@jimbob1969 The video concerns a logical fallacy often referred to as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. It goes like this: 1) Seamus claims to be a Scotsman; 2) all true Scotsmen drink whiskey; 3) Seamus doesn't drink whisky; 4) therefore, Seamus is no true Scotsman. Billo claimed someone couldn't be "a believer in Jesus" and also be a mass murderer. I regret that your massive ignorance prevented you from understanding the content of this video. You have my sympathy.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
Someone might argue the semantics of "mass murder" and "war". However a lot of the cited examples are nothing less than ethnic cleansing.
I would rather claim the occasional crack pot murderer than admit to systemic and directed reduction in unwanted populations.
a7i20ci7y 6 months ago
The IRA and UVF are a modern day Christian terrorist groups. I appreciate that there are a great deal more examples than a sensibly timed video will allow, but they're probably the most relevant entries to have included.
Good video though.
G0lfYankee 6 months ago
Yup, anyone who does anything bad can't have been a Christian.
The Cruasders weren't REAL Christians. Nor were the Conquistadors, Hitler, any Pope, as you say, the lists too long, but......
Bill ALWAYS tells the whole, unbiased truth, so he MUST be a real christian.
Wordavee1 6 months ago
The destruction of the library at Alexandria and the murder of Hypatia and several pagans.
gamutman 6 months ago
You forgot the biggest ones: World War I & II, the Vietnam War, the Irish Protestants vs. Catholics, the Iraq War...
GuruEvi 6 months ago
@GuruEvi It might have been a good idea to include somethign from Northern Ireland. However, the wars would have led to endless debate leading in a circle.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
Bill is always good for a laugh bless his tiny heart!
hatemorethanyou999 6 months ago
@hatemorethanyou999
>Bill is always good for a laugh bless his tiny heart!
You misspelled "brain"
TheRationalizer 6 months ago
Whats the song playing during the listing, I swear I know it but just can't remember the name.
nowhereguy45 6 months ago
@nowhereguy45 "Scotland the Brave."
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
"No one believing in Jeebus commits murder". . . .ah,the crusades maybe!?!
Pancerni 6 months ago
Yes, the christians always forget about the Klu Klu Klan that is still very active in America. And of course the white supremacy movement.
MrRedthief 6 months ago
@MrRedthief Actually, these days the Ku Klux Klan is largely regarded as an irrelevant joke.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
WW II was started by a christian...
breakaleg10 6 months ago
you forgot the Salem witch burnings...
gotohellgooglization 6 months ago
@gotohellgooglization See my earlier comment re Berlin, Alexanderplatz.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
You forgot the inquisitions and burnings, you manly focused on wars. You forgot to add the 100 years war which both sides claimed christian superiority. I know there are no recorded deaths in this but the cold war was fueled in large part because of christian groups.
ravenheart93 6 months ago
@ravenheart93 How do you know what I "forgot?" Has it occurred to you that I was timing the events to the music in order to limit the length of the video? Yours is one of the more common comments I have recived on this video, and I can only conlcude that many either wanted their favorite atrocity included or wanted a video that was roughly the same length as the documentary "Shoah."
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 5
@WildwoodClaire1 I'm sorry if I offended. I didn't mean to sound condemning. I understand that it's hard to go everything. I love the video thou, I am just cynical and need to give criticism all the time. Again, I'm sorry.
ravenheart93 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 I think you forgot all the dumb shit people tend to leave in the comments section.
Maxdwolf 6 months ago
Bombing of abortion clinics anyone? Oh and how about the Residential Schools up here in Canada that ran all the way up until 1996?
Satanos777 6 months ago
*cough*Hitler*cough*
flapjackboy 6 months ago 2
@flapjackboy Hell yeah, can't forget old Adolf, Catholicism's favorite son.
123backinyerface 6 months ago
@123backinyerface See my earlier comment re Hitler overload and "Godwin's Law."
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
Nice rebuttal.
I'm kind of surprised that I've not seen any Christians speaking out on his behalf since in their minds, he can confess his sins to the Almighty Father and ask for forgiveness, and because of the Blood of the Lamb that was sacrificed for his salvation, be restored to the loving embrace of his Christian family and have life everlasting in the Heavenly Kingdom, Amen.
You know, that bit.
phenixwryter 6 months ago
"The son of God goes forth to war...A kingly crown be gained...."
swordofisis 6 months ago
Bill O'Reilly should look up the name "Richard Snell". And he should pay special attention to 1) the name of the organization he was a member of, 2) what he intended to do (and particularly what specific building he intended to do it to), and 3) the precise date of his execution.
Wes964 6 months ago
You Celtophobe! How dare you forget to mention Cromwell's atrocities in Ireland! Just kidding, if you listed all of the crimes of Christianity it would be days long.
mojosideburns 6 months ago
@mojosideburns It would be the length of the film "Berlin, Alexanderplatz."
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 If, and only if, you contained not one iota of info, just a quick listing of the major wars, purges, inquistions, and other crimes against humanity. Otherwise, it would be longer than the lifetime of any single human to ever really exist.
mojosideburns 6 months ago
0:48, "Noone believing in Jesus, commits mass murder!" What an assertion! We all know periods in history when atrocities have been committed by Christians. Theologians sometimes admit this (they have no choice, history proves it), but then they try to find apologetics.
dewinthemorning 6 months ago
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Skindoggiedog 6 months ago
You forgot the current religious crusades in Iraq and Afghanistan. :)
tdurran 6 months ago
What has it got to do with Scotland?
Iamthegreatification 6 months ago
@Iamthegreatification "What has it got to do with Scotland?"
Not sure if that's a serious question or not, but that's the name of the logical fallacy.
That's like asking what does Russell's teapot have to do with teapots .... it doesn't.
Skindoggiedog 6 months ago
@Skindoggiedog A no Scotsman fallacy is this:
A Scotsman has sugar rather than salt on his porridge.
No true Scotsman would have sugar rather than salt.
Therefore he is not a true Scotsman.
The fallacy is in asserting that someone cannot be in a group for reasons that are incidental or not applicable to the whole group.
Nilsy1975 6 months ago
@Nilsy1975 You've replied to the wrong person. The question in my reply was a quote.
Skindoggiedog 6 months ago
@Skindoggiedog Bloody YT changes! I only have a small monitor & it's really hard to see if I'm replying to the right person :-(
Nilsy1975 6 months ago
@Nilsy1975 All good, man. It WAS a great response, just to the wrong person!!
Skindoggiedog 6 months ago
@Iamthegreatification "No True Scotsman" is a logical fallacy, and if you do a simple search on YouTube or Google you'll find plenty of explanations.
Zachk2391 6 months ago
@Iamthegreatification It doesn't have anything to do with Scotland. It has to do with a fallacious assertion. Obviously, you are unfamiliar with a type of fallacy known as the "No True Scotsman fallacy."
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 2
@Iamthegreatification A no Scotsman fallacy is this:
A Scotsman has sugar rather than salt on his porridge.
No true Scotsman would have sugar rather than salt.
Therefore he is not a true Scotsman.
The fallacy is in asserting that someone cannot be in a group for reasons that are incidental or not applicable to the whole group.
Nilsy1975 6 months ago
Nice list.. also "the troubles" in Ireland.
antonc81 6 months ago
it almost doesn´t get more ignorant / dishonest than O`Reilly. hate that son of a bitch
Cromwell523 6 months ago
Fox news in general puts out A LOT of IGNORANT comments, but Bill has got to be the most IGNORANT, SELF-CENTERED, CHRISTIAN DICK I have ever heard in my 53 years of life!
mythicalhell 6 months ago
Missed out Hitler........ Pretty big one there....
MaggieHaggis 6 months ago
@MaggieHaggis over used, too much haggling about his religious beliefs, and didn't feel like hearing the expression "Godwin's Law" ad nauseum.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Fair enough :D
MaggieHaggis 6 months ago
You did not mention the 80years war inbetween Spanish/chatolic/ present day Belgium and the Protestand Netherlands.
lawfuIneutral 6 months ago
One thing that I find interesting is one would think that the pundits and politicians would be our brightest and best...but alas this is not the case. You've got scientific illiterates of all stripes at all levels of the media and official offices.
Pyrolonn 6 months ago
Ah, the skrailing of the pipes. It does the heart good. Sadly, no Scottish games here abouts, so I'm left yearning for the wailing screech of the pipe. Worse still, they call the fiddle a violin here.
pumkinpi2 6 months ago
Not to mention the violence during the Reformation, with Christians killing Christians over which side was right about how to worship Jesus.
PeterThenn 6 months ago
O'Reilly would that be an Irish name…
I believe they had little problem between the Protestants and Catholics…
bigfatbaataed 6 months ago 2
@bigfatbaataed Nah that was all just a slight.... misunderstanding :).
MyPisceanNature 6 months ago
You can always rely on O'Reilly to miscommunicate the facts. Truth goes in, shit goes out. If somebody donated him a brain cell, it would be lonely.
DaithiDublin 6 months ago 2
Simply Brilliant!
jolulipa 6 months ago
Well at least they weren't Scottish.
TIPinkUnicorn 6 months ago
POW! hahaha yes, poor self-deluded Bill. When reality starts rearing its ugly head, IGNORE IT, DENY IT, RUN FROM IT, but never admit defeat! nice vid.
TruthSurge 6 months ago
Could have also included Scott Roeder, Timothy McVeigh.
OccamsView 6 months ago
Bill O'Reilly is a tool.
apocalypseap 6 months ago
Is that "Scotland the brave" I hear in the background? If it is, that's pretty awesome
TruthofthePeople 6 months ago 2
@TruthofthePeople yes
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 I think I have the same recording. Is that The Gordon Highlanders?
curlew0609 6 months ago
@curlew0609 I don't know.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
Apparently forgot all southamerica 's natives that were massacred or forcefully converted to christianity, It was a massive demonstration of christian love, so much in fact that several kinds of tribes went into extinction after that, and with them their dialects, art, music.. etc.
elvigia666 6 months ago 3
@elvigia666 It's only 2 minutes and 46 seconds long. I couldn't squeeze every atrocity in, it's asking too much.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 14
@WildwoodClaire1 You could've sung the atrocities like the Animaniacs "Nations of the World" song: /watch?v=IDtdQ8bTvRc
jlowe424 6 months ago
The truth of the matter is that Bill's show is an opinion show, so he can feel free to opine and even flat out lie all he wants. Just ignore him, he's a freakin' pinhead!
sillymonkey829 6 months ago
1# more killings and Wars Have Been Corsed by Religions & by Beliefs and in the Name of this and that..... than Atheist or Atheism, throw out Time.
religious people are Bad 4 this Planet. shows it from the stats of History. and any Believer wants to Prove me wrong go ahead and try prove me wrong..... if u can . & Flaggers and Spammers are Cowards to debate me. shockofgod coward, thirdaleage guy = Coward, and many others have tryed, and its a cowardly thig to just Block when u have NO ANSWER
realnameunknown2011 6 months ago
Excellent video!!!! :D
fruitikay 6 months ago
But Claire, Bill has such an easy retort! None of those people were true Christians either. Clearly, if they committed mass murder they could not have honestly believed in Jesus. The logic is air tight! :P
MagorianAx 6 months ago
to the name of the video, a True Scotsman Drinks whisky & walks 500 miles & EATS Haggis WITH WHISKY MIXED IN.
realnameunknown2011 6 months ago
@realnameunknown2011 I can't be a true Scotsman then as I would never waste Whisky buy mixing it into haggis nor spoil haggis by adding whisky
x42brown 6 months ago
@x42brown
thats how Haggis is meant to be Eating. with a wee bit of Whisky
realnameunknown2011 6 months ago
@realnameunknown2011 Not in my household, unless of course, the whisky is in a glass along side the plate of haggis, neeps and tatties.
x42brown 6 months ago
@x42brown
lol
realnameunknown2011 6 months ago
While you are calling this No True Scotsman, I would add in the Scottish Reformation, which started in the 16th century and saw Scotland in just a few years go from being known as "The Pope's special daughter" to the most Presbytarian country in the world, with mass bloodshed of both Roman Catholics and Protestants for over 200 years. Almost 500 years later, religious bigotry on both sides is the scourge and the shame of my proud, little country and I say a plague on both their houses.
ThomasTrue 6 months ago
I believe that most thinking people can tell just what a hypocrite that Brill Opad'Reilly is. If not then they are brainwashed to believe everything that they hear.
lautz73 6 months ago
you forgot the spanish Inquisition
Dubickimus 6 months ago
@Dubickimus well, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 33
@WildwoodClaire1 If you purposely left it out with the hope someone would point it out just so you could use this line my respect for your craftiness has jumped.
harvellt 6 months ago
Interesting that Bill O'Reilly would say Breivik wasn't a true Christian. That is what I was taught by my Evangelical upbringing about Roman Catholics. Catholics were members of a cult just like Mormons, Lutherens, Muslims, Bhuddists, Hindus, etc. etc.......
psychobackpacker 6 months ago
@psychobackpacker
That's to be expected. Everyone thinks their religion is the 'one true religion' and that everyone else is wrong for some reason or another. It's little more than an arrogant ego trip ultimately.
Vire70 6 months ago
@Vire70 About the only time the various Christian Cults accept each other is when the want to claim that a majority of Americans are Christian.
psychobackpacker 6 months ago
O'Reilly really said that? Does he take daily stupid suppositories? Even if his only source is the Bible he should realise this is bullshit.
AtheistAussie 6 months ago
O'Reilly, in his own parlance, is a pinhead.
PlasteredDragon 6 months ago
You forgot about Harry Truman dropping the atomic bombs on Japan, and the great lie of George Bush leading to the unjustified war in Iraq.
MrSamuelSpade 6 months ago
@MrSamuelSpade I chose to leave out terror bombing of civilian targets during World War II.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 I would almost argue that any colonizing was partially an act of perceiving divine right over non christians around the world. Destruction of people not only in the Americas, but throughout most of Africa and Asia as well. That kind of destruction included mass murder of uncalculable magnitude.
MrSamuelSpade 6 months ago
@MrSamuelSpade Bush's war in Iraq has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with greed, gluttony and maybe a bit of revenge if you remember the fact that Bush's father also went to war in Iraq (tho for more justifiable reasons) but was unable to actually remove Saddam from power all those decades ago.
Not that I am defending religion here, I am an Atheist, but sometimes we need to acknowledge that there is more to the immorality in this world then just religious beliefs.
DoomsdayR3sistance 6 months ago
@DoomsdayR3sistance Actually it was Bush Sr and his advisors that said don't continue into Iraq. They stopped after retaking Kuwait because it wasn't necessary to go on.
lautz73 6 months ago
@lautz73 I am aware of that. That doesn't mean Jr. does tho or if he does that he liked that Saddam essentially got away with all the deaths he caused...
DoomsdayR3sistance 6 months ago
@DoomsdayR3sistance Jr went into Iraq with a false report of WMD's. Even the UN (an organization that I dislike) said that Iraq had none yet Jr goes in anyway. Jr's reasons had nothing to do with Saddam at all. He went in there on the orders of big oil (and his own pocketbook) to get the oil or a better deal on the oil from OPEC.
lautz73 6 months ago
@lautz73 This is why I left Greed and Gluttony as the most significant points, I only said more on revenge to explain how it too could have been a possible motivator. There is also the issue that Iraq had switched from trading Oil in US Dollars to European Euros which also would have in the longer run had an impact on the US economy.
DoomsdayR3sistance 6 months ago
Brilliant, Claire! And "Scotland the Brave" as the backing music was perfect (being yank-Irish, I have a weakness for the pipes!). Faved, darlin'!
KCKatheist 6 months ago
This is probably the most retarded thing O'Reilly has ever said.
Hereticbooks 6 months ago
Claire - you are being unfair. As Nigel Tufnel said, "That's, that's nit picking, isn't it? "
AlanCFA 6 months ago
and let's not forget the Northern Crusades against our Baltic brothers and sisters. Have you hugged a Lithuanian today? The last pagans in Europe.
wikipedia, Northern Crusades
comeade 6 months ago
testing
comeade 6 months ago
If Bill wanted to go where there is a disproportionately high number of Christians, he should go to a prison. According to his logic, there shouldn't be any murderers there.
DarkMatter2525 6 months ago 2
Hey Claire, Nice uses of "Scottland the brave"
pigwigpa 6 months ago
Thank you Claire.
skyzthelimi7 6 months ago
Bill isn't a true Christian. No true Christian would commit the no true Scotsman fallacy.
Griexxt 6 months ago
@Griexxt [:
TheBiAtheist 6 months ago
for thos wondering jesus was a roman catholic (same ass mr.bill here) talked about how god told him to kill the jewish that they where the arianrace they even blessed the mad man...
jannikmt 6 months ago
According to these fucking insane cult savage traitors, there are no Christians but themselves. Fucking mother fuckers.
NotSoOldHippy 6 months ago
Bill O'Reilly is Stupid. Question, is he religious because he is Stupid or did religion make him Stupid ?
HHOinfo 6 months ago
@HHOinfo stupid? maybe. but also rich. religion worked for him.
theheinzification 6 months ago
They weren't real Christians!
ProgressiveAudio 6 months ago
And of course Bill is a Muslim hate preacher - and guess what Bill, Muslims believe in Jesus too.
The Qur'an mentions Jesus more often by name than Muhammad. It states he was born to Mary - a virgin birth. To aid God in his ministry to the Jewish people, He performed miracles by the permission of God rather than using his own power. And he was not crucified but was raised up by God through ascension.
Huttate1 6 months ago
I do think that if a person follows Christ's example, it would be difficult to do something like that. OTOH, as your video shows so well, Christ's teachings have been ignored by the faithful for millenia!
christo930 6 months ago
@christo930 I do not think adherence to Christianity leads one to commit atrocities. However, it doesn't prevent one from commiting atrocities either, as demonstrated thousands of times in history.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 19
@WildwoodClaire1 adherence to xianity (or other religions) can lead one to commit atrocities, although maybe only in rare cases. but it surely does help a lot to justifie said atrocities.
theheinzification 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Yes, I agree.That is why I said that Christ's teachings have been ignored by the faithful for millenia.. Thanks for your videos, I love them.
christo930 6 months ago
@christo930 Bill O'Reily ignores Christs teachings... however this type of behavior is encouraged in the Old Testament and while Christ does overrule a lot of it in the new testament it's still a book filled with horrors and atrocities in the old testament. Interestingly tho, Jesus doesn't over rule everything from the old testament, he still allowed slavery... What Jesus teaches after all is the worst position you are in while keeping the faith the more you'll be rewarded, while the rich burn.
DoomsdayR3sistance 6 months ago
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In being rich, Bill O'Reily is actually ignoring Jesus's teachings.
'And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God'
Matthew 19:24
DoomsdayR3sistance 6 months ago
@DoomsdayR3sistance It is kind of a backwards system, but we are talking about a book that was written by bronze aged goat herders.
christo930 6 months ago
@christo930 which one? The Old Testament? Maybe, I am not as familiar with it's beginnings but the bible itself, the new testament was written by priests and preachers to bias Christianity to following the rule of the Vatican. There were many Gospels around at the time and the majority were simply ignored, tossed out or thrown away. This one book approached failed in the long run but was more successfully replicated by the "Qu'ran" what replaced out several competing Qu'rans.
DoomsdayR3sistance 6 months ago
Just like Billo encouraged people like Scott Roeder to rid the world of George TIller, even to the point he "MURDERED" Tiller in a CHURCH! I would like Billo to review that great education he got, and remember, he used to be a teacher! Shame and embarrassment are not something you learn, I guess, not if you believe in your personal version of Jeebus. Where is the humility?
ChunxOfEarth 6 months ago
Dear Claire,
Thank you very much for this.
Also, I'd just like to add the atrocities committed by Catholic Irish Republicans and Protestant Loyalists, such as the Omagh bombing in 1998.
Ujames1978 6 months ago
The fictional character "Jehovah God of Armies" - yes, God Almighty who goes by so many aliases was a murderous psychopath who would have made Adolf Hitler look like Gandhi in comparison. Since the other fictional character Jesus Christ was this thug's chief deputy, hell - dying as he would with his abusive Daddy's approval, wellllll, of course then he would fit in this same category. So is it any wonder that Christians today pick up this mantle and go sniffing for blood? That BozO' Reilly!
pianodavy 6 months ago
And let's not forget the Kosovo conflicts and the Muslim mass murders where national and religious identity became mixed up in mass murdering civilians. Religion nearly destroyed the economy and society of former Yugoslavia and did deep and lasting damage to its people and culture.
viridismonasteriense 6 months ago
Bravo Claire! Thunderous applause and a standing ovation!
hollywoodt00 6 months ago
@JohnHenryAlex i don't think that the phrase "there are no atheists in foxholes" is supposed to be taken literally...i think it's just used to describe that being in foxholes is so pants wettingly scary that it would make one turn to god even if they're atheist...i probably worded that terribly but you get what i'm trying to say right?
warpedwiselegoman 6 months ago
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This video is the actual fallacy. Argument from fallacy or fallacy of relevence. Brevik was an atheist he tells us that in his manifesto so O'Reillys fallacy is irrelevent his conclusion was still true, albeit poorly argued.
DontBendOverForAllah 6 months ago
@DontBendOverForAllah This video addresses the statement "no true Christian could commit mass murder" and it identfies a small number of the thousands of atrocities committed by Christians. Why are you in denial?
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 2
@DontBendOverForAllah your comment is the actual fallacy. Argument from fallacy of fallacy of fallacy.
Fallacyception!
And btw brevik said he was 100% a christian, a cultural christian, pro-christian, a self-professed modern-day crusader and he clearly had a lingering belief in the christian god considering he prayed to it, despite his criticism of the church. People who pray aren't atheists.
viridismonasteriense 6 months ago
@DontBendOverForAllah And by the way, here is a direct quote from the Breivik manifesto: "At the age of 15, I chose to be baptised and confirmed in the Norwegian State Church. I consider myself to be 100 percent Christian."
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 2
@WildwoodClaire1 here is another quote :
“If praying will act as an additional mental boost/soothing it is the pragmatical thing to do. I guess I will find out… If there is a God I will be allowed to enter heaven as all other martyrs for the Church in the past.”
and another:
“I’m not going to pretend I’m a very religious person as that would be a lie. I’ve always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment.”
and then there is this:
AmetReloads 6 months ago
@AmetReloads Breivik’s idea of “cultural Christianity” “it is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus.”
and this:“[t]he Church and church leaders will not be allowed to influence non-cultural political matters in any way. This includes science, research and development and all non-cultural areas .. also include all areas relating to procreation/birth/fertility policies and related issues of scientific importance"
sounds like a typical agnostic secular to me.
AmetReloads 6 months ago
@DontBendOverForAllah Another person who has not read the manifesto but wants to tell the world what it says. O'Reilly has company in denial.
77Totems 6 months ago 2
And before anyone claims the Crusades were some kind of 'defence against Islam'- and if you do wanna make that claim I dare you to debate me on it- even if we let that go, lets not ignore the many Jewish pogroms that took place on the way to the 'holy land'.
mrgodbehere 6 months ago
Great video! And there are so many more events that could have been added (Salem witch trials, St. Bartholomew's Day massacre).
itsonlymepeople 6 months ago 2
At the risk of committing godwins fallacy I think you missed out Hitler. Hate to harp on about that but he was kind of a catholic (I think, don't ask me for my source because i can't remember but if not a catholic then some other christian denomination at least).
SeanathenII 6 months ago 3
@SeanathenII What possible difference does it make to the message of this video?
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 3
@WildwoodClaire1 Nothing, just adding another one in.
SeanathenII 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 the christians like to think he was atheist
Ihatemelee 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 altough you cant put everything in the video. i think too hitler is an important example and shouldnt be left out. (even if its only to conter all the arguments about "itler was an atheist"(and whole nazi germany too?) beforehand.) its probably also because you stopped the timeline just when i expected hilter & co to be brought up. still your point is clear though and its a great vid.
theheinzification 6 months ago
Would you consider the witch hunts "mass murder"?
Atriviality 6 months ago
It amazes me how little someone can know about their own religion
Spocktacular96 6 months ago
I like the poetic irony of minor prophets like Jim Jones and David Koresh
skoockum 6 months ago
Just like his tides ignorance. Can we really expect anything accurate coming from Billy O's mouth? What a tool. FOX only hires tools and fools who have thown their journalistic ethics out the window.
saxmanchiro 6 months ago 2
holy crap,no one who believes in Jesus commits mass murder. that might seriously be the wrongest statement Bill has ever made,and for someone who is wrong about almost everything he's ever said,thats fucking amazing. I think it could be safely argued that Christians are for probably the last 1500 years at least,the world leader in mass murder,and the ones doing the killing are the REAL christians,the rest ignore 3/4 of the book
ViralMessiah 6 months ago
You could also mention Charlemagne, Pope Theophilus of Alexandria, the Massacre of Mérindol in 1545, St. Bartholomew's Day massacre in 1572, Fort Matanzas massacre in 1565, and of course the Rwanda genocide in 1994. And if you really want to get picky, you could mention the American Civil War 1861-65, where Christians on both sides gleefully slaughtered each other with both knowing they had God on their side.
deepashtray 6 months ago 3
Oh come on now, those weren't real wars. They didn't even have nukes! lol jk
TekLok 6 months ago
Nice to hear a piece of Scottish music included with some wonderful pwnage. ^_^
StanMarsh1 6 months ago
I'm just waiting for Billo the Clown to point out that Breivik was Norwegian and so couldn't possibly be a true Scotsman...
Naturally missing the point being made completely
paulchartley 6 months ago
Billo has Irish ancestors... What's the link with the Scots Claire?
Juicexlx 6 months ago
@Juicexlx Other than having Celtic heritage and having formerly spoken a Celtic language? You Do understand the reference to a "No True Scotsman's Fallacy," right?
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago 2
@WildwoodClaire1 I'm of French descent, so I'm culturally unfamiliar with the concept. Although it does tells me something now that you speak of ''fallacy''... Scots are quite proud of their ''true blood'' heritage : )
It was a nice vid in any case.
Juicexlx 6 months ago
@Juicexlx The video would have been as applicable to O'Reilly's statement had he been born in Marakesh. A "No True Sctosman Fallacy" is an error of logic involving set theory.
WildwoodClaire1 6 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 I see. Speaking of fallacious, have a look at this. It's Rick Perry's speech at his praying event earlier this morning. Brace yourself for some serious Creationists' crap and illogical discourse!! Eww!
watch?v=bmog8anc9UA
Juicexlx 6 months ago