my dad would lend his horn to sonny, when he would put his in hock. miles lived with my g/father so as a child i grew up listening to the "greats' jam in my g/fathers basement. very long story. Miles and i got tight and he gave me my 1st gig as an engineer..........writing a book soon. Point is. Stitt came closest to playing inside the "style" of Bird, as he had his own "sound"
Folks grab vibes all over the earth in different places at the same time because they heard it through the drum. The same holds true for all music forms. It's always been that way, when you practice you pull it from inside of your soul and our souls are connected. The only reason why some get credit is because they were acknowledged by those in high places. There are many artists who never go commercial that a lot of these cats copied. You would know that if you were in the know....
Man, you idiots need to do some research about jazz giants. Stitt wasn't "influenced" by Parker. They happened to have similar approach, but YOU learned about Parker first. Saying Stitt was influenced by Parker because he quotes Parker is like saying Rollins was influenced by "Wee" since he quoted it in Eternal Triangle. FFS people do some homework on your history.
@UtubeXucks Bird started the Bebop era in the 40s, players like Stitt and Clifford were a lot younger then Bird and Diz and got big in the 50s, It's obvious that Stitt was influenced by Bird's playing as Stitt i'm sure looked up to Bird as a young player, but Stitt put his own twist on his way of playing, connecting long 8th note lines continuously, which was definitely different but also similar to birds style of playing.
Um, Bird and Stitt's birthdays are not even 5 years apart. Also, it was MONK who started the Bebop era. Parker and Diz got the credit because at the time bop was being retrospectively chronicled into American music history, Monk was just beginning to gain recognition, and even then (sadly), only some jazz cats understood Monk, let alone mainstream jazz listeners. In any case, Stitt developed his style parallel to Parker, not deriving it from him.
@UtubeXucks I'm not trying to argue about it, i'm just agreeing that Stitt had some form of an influence from Bird as most others did at the time. And Monk, Bird, Diz and all the other BeBoppers started it ha it wasn't one player
I am very surprised that no one seriously considered the fact that Bird could well have been influenced by Sonny as well as the other way around. We've heard many times how Bird was open to all music and found something good in most everyone's playing. With that kind of open ears he could have hardly missed such dangerous rival as Sonny Stitt and learn something from him.
I'd say with Sonny Stitt, his quotes are more about the huge respect he had for Bird. His own playing is fucking great, but he's just acknowledging Bird's genius. I say this especially because he plays the characteristic Bird bridge.
@Vahayr It is nearly impossible to pinpoint who the pianist is on this recording but through my best efforts I have been able to deduce that it is likely Hank Jones. Mr. Jones had been playing quite a bit with Sonny during the time of this live recording and the studio recording Sonny did of "Cherokee" from 1957 also featured Hank Jones on piano. This live recording is from 1962.
@Vahayr It is nearly impossible to pinpoint who the pianist is on this recording but through my best efforts I have been able to deduce that it is likely Hank Jones. Mr. Jones had been playing quite a bit with Sonny during the time of this live recording and the studio recording Sonny did of "Cherokee" from 1957 also featured Hank Jones on piano. This live recording is from 1962.
@Vahayr Also, please disregard the reply from "dxtwiins". That was me inadvertently responding while still in my kid's user account. They sometimes use my computer and when they do, they switch to their username. I sometimes forget to switch back to my name before I respond to comments. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.
@Vahayr Yep, you listed just about all of the top-flight altos around after Bird. I would also mention Phil Woods and, maybe, Art Pepper. But besides that I can't think of anyone else.
@MsMsbeautiful2010 "Vahayr" did include Cannonball in his list. I was just trying to list some other names that I feel are worthy of inclusion. Since Cannonball was already listed by Vahayr, I was trying to add some other names who may not be as famous or well-known but are certainly just as talented. I forgot to mention Richie Cole who was, and still is, a superb alto. Maybe you could add another name or two?
@beeshor1 Don't forget the man Mingus called 'the saxophonist of tomorrow', Charles McPherson, who is a top-three pick with Bird and Cannonball in my view. I must add Phil Woods for your consideration.
I am listening to his "Complete Roost Studio Recordings" at the moment. It's a nine CD box and so far not a dull tune on it. Sonny must have been one of the most consistent performers ever!
Hvala Borko !!!
1gpuaca 3 weeks ago
believe it or not...Chick Corea played with Sonny
hippyblood4 3 weeks ago
my dad would lend his horn to sonny, when he would put his in hock. miles lived with my g/father so as a child i grew up listening to the "greats' jam in my g/fathers basement. very long story. Miles and i got tight and he gave me my 1st gig as an engineer..........writing a book soon. Point is. Stitt came closest to playing inside the "style" of Bird, as he had his own "sound"
hippyblood4 3 weeks ago
Rather than Cherokee, Stitt is playing "Constellation" by Charlie Parker. Just a wild guess, but could the pianist be Junior Mance?
ghairraigh 3 weeks ago
@ghairraigh the line up is un credited. but it could be Mance. I was thinking Bud Powell, but it is not him
hippyblood4 3 weeks ago
@hippyblood4 There's a comment below saying it's Walter Bishop on piano, apparently from a guy that owns the L.P.
ghairraigh 3 weeks ago
Seriously, everyone else is unknown on the Album? Hard to believe.
Dorothyannette 3 weeks ago
Os músicos que tocam com o Sonny Sttit nesse album são: Howard McGhee, trompete - Walter Bishop, piano - Tommy Potter, baixo - Kenny Clarke, bateria.
sergiopbn 1 month ago
@sergiopbn I guess you have the album...I had guessed it was Junior Mance on piano. Thanks!
ghairraigh 3 weeks ago
Cosby
BlueberryBute 2 months ago 25
Love it!
josephbanford 3 months ago
Some blowing!
Bud´s licks on the piano.
Timopartanen2 3 months ago
Some blowing!
Timopartanen2 3 months ago
That's like saying that Oxygen influenced life on Earth....
terrryc 3 months ago
sonny playing a whole lot of music here..
aaronamccoy 4 months ago
omg, this guy wails! they don't make music like this any more, they just make shit you would want to wash dishes to.
mitchellglaser 4 months ago
@mitchellglaser I always wash my dishes to Sonny Stitt, Mozart, Miles,Tommy Flanagan and other folk like that. Makes it more pleasant.
vova47 1 month ago
Folks grab vibes all over the earth in different places at the same time because they heard it through the drum. The same holds true for all music forms. It's always been that way, when you practice you pull it from inside of your soul and our souls are connected. The only reason why some get credit is because they were acknowledged by those in high places. There are many artists who never go commercial that a lot of these cats copied. You would know that if you were in the know....
WASIJIAN 4 months ago
Man, you idiots need to do some research about jazz giants. Stitt wasn't "influenced" by Parker. They happened to have similar approach, but YOU learned about Parker first. Saying Stitt was influenced by Parker because he quotes Parker is like saying Rollins was influenced by "Wee" since he quoted it in Eternal Triangle. FFS people do some homework on your history.
UtubeXucks 4 months ago
@UtubeXucks Bird started the Bebop era in the 40s, players like Stitt and Clifford were a lot younger then Bird and Diz and got big in the 50s, It's obvious that Stitt was influenced by Bird's playing as Stitt i'm sure looked up to Bird as a young player, but Stitt put his own twist on his way of playing, connecting long 8th note lines continuously, which was definitely different but also similar to birds style of playing.
Patsax251 4 months ago
@Patsax251
Um, Bird and Stitt's birthdays are not even 5 years apart. Also, it was MONK who started the Bebop era. Parker and Diz got the credit because at the time bop was being retrospectively chronicled into American music history, Monk was just beginning to gain recognition, and even then (sadly), only some jazz cats understood Monk, let alone mainstream jazz listeners. In any case, Stitt developed his style parallel to Parker, not deriving it from him.
UtubeXucks 4 months ago
@UtubeXucks I'm not trying to argue about it, i'm just agreeing that Stitt had some form of an influence from Bird as most others did at the time. And Monk, Bird, Diz and all the other BeBoppers started it ha it wasn't one player
Patsax251 4 months ago
I am very surprised that no one seriously considered the fact that Bird could well have been influenced by Sonny as well as the other way around. We've heard many times how Bird was open to all music and found something good in most everyone's playing. With that kind of open ears he could have hardly missed such dangerous rival as Sonny Stitt and learn something from him.
vova47 1 month ago
I'd say with Sonny Stitt, his quotes are more about the huge respect he had for Bird. His own playing is fucking great, but he's just acknowledging Bird's genius. I say this especially because he plays the characteristic Bird bridge.
confoozled3737 5 months ago
no problem man its ok
its just so great that are real jazz lovers here having a great time and listening to some rare stuff that never hears before
Vahayr 6 months ago
ooo no no no I SORRY
thats not Barry , but who is thr piano player????
Vahayr 6 months ago
@Vahayr It is nearly impossible to pinpoint who the pianist is on this recording but through my best efforts I have been able to deduce that it is likely Hank Jones. Mr. Jones had been playing quite a bit with Sonny during the time of this live recording and the studio recording Sonny did of "Cherokee" from 1957 also featured Hank Jones on piano. This live recording is from 1962.
dxtwiins 6 months ago
@Vahayr It is nearly impossible to pinpoint who the pianist is on this recording but through my best efforts I have been able to deduce that it is likely Hank Jones. Mr. Jones had been playing quite a bit with Sonny during the time of this live recording and the studio recording Sonny did of "Cherokee" from 1957 also featured Hank Jones on piano. This live recording is from 1962.
beeshor1 6 months ago
@beeshor1 All due respect to your best efforts, it is definitely not Hank Jones.
I'd recognize Hank and his elegant touch anywhere.
vova47 1 month ago
@Vahayr Also, please disregard the reply from "dxtwiins". That was me inadvertently responding while still in my kid's user account. They sometimes use my computer and when they do, they switch to their username. I sometimes forget to switch back to my name before I respond to comments. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused.
beeshor1 6 months ago
EVERYBODY was influenced by Charlie Parker!
WestsideConnectshun 6 months ago 4
@WestsideConnectshun duh.
ryanizzle26 4 months ago
@WestsideConnectshun EVERYBODY was influenced by Lester Young including Charlie Parker XD lol
hogwartzman 4 months ago
Thank you for the post !!! I am addicted to Sonny Stitt my great heroe !!!
nadinecohenjazzco 6 months ago
and don't forget Sonny Stitt is ALSO one of the best Tenor players
Vahayr 6 months ago
thats why Bird told him " you got the keys to the kingdom"
there was many great tenor players, but very few alto players after BIRD.
Sonny Stitt Lou Donaldson Jackie Mclean and Cannonball.
I think thats about it guys.
Thanks for a great post
Vahayr 6 months ago
@Vahayr Yep, you listed just about all of the top-flight altos around after Bird. I would also mention Phil Woods and, maybe, Art Pepper. But besides that I can't think of anyone else.
beeshor1 6 months ago
@beeshor1 oooo man my main man Barry harris plays piano on this record
I'm shure its Barry:)))
Yeah man i can get inough of this
thanks
Vahayr 6 months ago
@beeshor1 What about Cannonball?
MsMsbeautiful2010 5 months ago
@MsMsbeautiful2010 "Vahayr" did include Cannonball in his list. I was just trying to list some other names that I feel are worthy of inclusion. Since Cannonball was already listed by Vahayr, I was trying to add some other names who may not be as famous or well-known but are certainly just as talented. I forgot to mention Richie Cole who was, and still is, a superb alto. Maybe you could add another name or two?
beeshor1 4 months ago
@beeshor1 Don't forget the man Mingus called 'the saxophonist of tomorrow', Charles McPherson, who is a top-three pick with Bird and Cannonball in my view. I must add Phil Woods for your consideration.
ghairraigh 3 weeks ago
@Vahayr Mingus called Charles McPherson 'the saxophonist of tomorrow'. To me, he is a top-three pick with Bird and Cannonball.
ghairraigh 3 weeks ago
1:21 BIRD
BillyC15 8 months ago
@BillyC15 good call
jameslondon22 7 months ago
Sonny is really pulling out the Bird licks here! He may not have always wanted to be associated with Bird, but he was definitely influenced by him!
archlordXd0 9 months ago 5
@archlordXd0 word
zbalder14 6 months ago
@archlordXd0 or maybe is the opposite ;)
Jazzclimber 5 months ago
@archlordXd0 Wasn't every alto player? LOL
soapbxprod 3 months ago
Thanks so much, I may be hooked on Sonny Stitt.
I am listening to his "Complete Roost Studio Recordings" at the moment. It's a nine CD box and so far not a dull tune on it. Sonny must have been one of the most consistent performers ever!
vova47 11 months ago
Absolutely fabulous !!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to Robert Levin on Facebook for pointing it out.
BINKIE2000 11 months ago