You have to break the stall by applying forward pressure on control column to allow the nose to drop. Only when the aircraft is no longer stalled, you should apply back pressure and as the nose reaches the horizon THEN apply the power. Two mistakes on this video. Applying power with the airplane still stalled on a positive attitude... Keep practicing =)
@Aussiephil99 Depending on what rating he was going for, he may have not needed to fully stall the plane. In commercial rating, I was to get the plane right on the brink of a stall then told to recover.
If training for private licensing, you do have to fully stall the plane.
@PhillipMcLoins.......for a restricted pilots licence in Australia you have to be able to recover from incipient spins (a deep stall with wing drop..... usually with the beginnings of autorotation...about a half to one revolution). I have an instructors rating. I wouldn't want to fly with anybody that can't recover from at least an incipient spin. The video says power off stall...the point I was making was that this isn't a power off stall if the aircraft doesn't actually stall.
@Aussiephil99 I understand that. I am glad that the syllabus that you follow in Australia requires training in spins. In the US, spin training has been removed from the private pilot syllabus. The only thing that new pilots need to understand is the PARE acronym and how to prevent spins with the coordinated rudder control. It is justified slightly though, especially when taking into consideration the only time you'd spin a 172 is takeoff or landing...in either case, you'd be screwed.
The aerodynamics of the C-172 are such that it is often hard to get the plane into a full stall....which is great from a safety standpoint, but it also makes it difficult to practice doing stalls. I was the one filming and I can assure you the student wasn't afraid of stalling...he just couldn't get it to!
@soundwaviator try it when its like 0 degrees F outside haha. its even harder. those 172's like to fly themselves, not have us try to mess up their normal flight haha.
@jonny2387 Lol, I just started practicing stalls yesterday. The C172 really fights against a full stall, and a power on stall it seemed to break a little violently. Probably partly my fault because I am inexperienced and I think I just aggravated the stall a little lol. It is very exciting, a little nerve racking though lol.
@DerPilotMann They are new to you and it just takes time. Good luck with training.
Heres some tips for you in keeping stalls a little "easier". Ease the back pressure, instead of forcing the stall, the plane will not be as violent when eased in a stall. Just keep up with the altitude and it will work its way from there. Another tip is to keep ailerons neutral until recovered- they do nothing but aggravate the stall by creating drag. Also, kick the initial rudder direction in with all your might
@PhillipMcLoins Yea lol, on my second lesson of stalls I avoided aileron input like the plague and it worked WONDERS. Any stall I put the plane was easily managed and not frightening whatsoever. They are actually a LOT of fun now that I have them down pretty good.
I've done some training in the Tomahawk. It does just what it was designed to do, be easier to stall and easier to spin for training. Unfortunately when Piper designed what everyone asked for, no one liked it!!!
The best planes to stall are Mooneys. I've had several roll inverted on me with students. That will wake up your day. I always demo the stall first so I can see what its going to do! I used to teach inverted spins in the Decathlon though. :)
haha in our 206 our stall indicator buzzes on landing. but its much louder, and not so much like a chiken. lol. But i think thats because we have a stall kit. you can hear it on all my videos. lol
An instructor of mine used to say it sounded like a cat being strangled. LOL!! Good old C172, very much a non event when it stalls. Try stalling a Baron then you know you have stalled!!!!!!!
The stalls feel quite a bit different to the C172. Just feels more abrupt with quite a abrupt wing drop to about 30 - 40 degrees, with a lot of buffet. At least that was what happend with the one i got endorsed on
dude that was the weakest so called stall. The nose didnt even drop and he powered it back up after like a second of the warning.
unorthodox1985 1 year ago
That stall wasn't correctly recovered.
You have to break the stall by applying forward pressure on control column to allow the nose to drop. Only when the aircraft is no longer stalled, you should apply back pressure and as the nose reaches the horizon THEN apply the power. Two mistakes on this video. Applying power with the airplane still stalled on a positive attitude... Keep practicing =)
Diobc 1 year ago
That aircraft wasn't stalled when he recovered.
Aussiephil99 1 year ago
@Aussiephil99 Depending on what rating he was going for, he may have not needed to fully stall the plane. In commercial rating, I was to get the plane right on the brink of a stall then told to recover.
If training for private licensing, you do have to fully stall the plane.
PhillipMcLoins 1 year ago
@PhillipMcLoins.......for a restricted pilots licence in Australia you have to be able to recover from incipient spins (a deep stall with wing drop..... usually with the beginnings of autorotation...about a half to one revolution). I have an instructors rating. I wouldn't want to fly with anybody that can't recover from at least an incipient spin. The video says power off stall...the point I was making was that this isn't a power off stall if the aircraft doesn't actually stall.
Aussiephil99 1 year ago
@Aussiephil99 I understand that. I am glad that the syllabus that you follow in Australia requires training in spins. In the US, spin training has been removed from the private pilot syllabus. The only thing that new pilots need to understand is the PARE acronym and how to prevent spins with the coordinated rudder control. It is justified slightly though, especially when taking into consideration the only time you'd spin a 172 is takeoff or landing...in either case, you'd be screwed.
PhillipMcLoins 1 year ago
Ugh, I'm working on my commercial and I still don't like that stupid horn. Will demo them all day, just don't like em.
childsca 2 years ago 2
Same here, sometimes I imagine hearing it and it drives me crazy. No joke! :(
jetfighter2011 2 years ago
power off stalls are by far the easiest, and least scary hahaha
bladeere14 2 years ago
yes it is hard to stall the 172 but it is fun to do
seena1993 2 years ago
dont be scared to fully stall the plane dude
jonny2387 3 years ago
The aerodynamics of the C-172 are such that it is often hard to get the plane into a full stall....which is great from a safety standpoint, but it also makes it difficult to practice doing stalls. I was the one filming and I can assure you the student wasn't afraid of stalling...he just couldn't get it to!
soundwaviator 3 years ago
one thing I really like about planes like the 172, is that it's really hard to stall, but really easy to recover.
thepod24 2 years ago
@soundwaviator
I had the same experience with the 172.
However, when attempting a stall in landing config in a 150 I immediately entered a spin.
CumulonimbusCB 2 years ago
@soundwaviator try it when its like 0 degrees F outside haha. its even harder. those 172's like to fly themselves, not have us try to mess up their normal flight haha.
ForeverForTomorrow 1 year ago
@soundwaviator I have the same problem, pull back all the way and still no stall. haha.
ScientificExploits 4 months ago
@soundwaviator ....why don't you put him in a cessna 150???
MrTuks679 4 months ago
@jonny2387 Lol, I just started practicing stalls yesterday. The C172 really fights against a full stall, and a power on stall it seemed to break a little violently. Probably partly my fault because I am inexperienced and I think I just aggravated the stall a little lol. It is very exciting, a little nerve racking though lol.
DerPilotMann 1 year ago
@DerPilotMann They are new to you and it just takes time. Good luck with training.
Heres some tips for you in keeping stalls a little "easier". Ease the back pressure, instead of forcing the stall, the plane will not be as violent when eased in a stall. Just keep up with the altitude and it will work its way from there. Another tip is to keep ailerons neutral until recovered- they do nothing but aggravate the stall by creating drag. Also, kick the initial rudder direction in with all your might
PhillipMcLoins 1 year ago
@PhillipMcLoins Yea lol, on my second lesson of stalls I avoided aileron input like the plague and it worked WONDERS. Any stall I put the plane was easily managed and not frightening whatsoever. They are actually a LOT of fun now that I have them down pretty good.
DerPilotMann 1 year ago
HA HA
IRproductionstudios 3 years ago
Keep stalling! Don't stop! When u stop the nice bagpipe music stops playing!
YYZZZYYY 3 years ago 14
Hehe, scottish stalls ftw :P
noobowner47 3 years ago 10
I trained in a Piper Tomahawk (or traumahawk as I call them) and that thing used to suprise me with a major wing drop when stalling!
I often wear my brown trousers when stalling as I'm not a fan.
At least the 172 is a pussycat in the stall.
That stall warner is normaly a reed type loctated on the leading edge of the wing, hence the nasty screeching sound.
My favourite plane to fly, ever!
discothief 4 years ago 2
I've done some training in the Tomahawk. It does just what it was designed to do, be easier to stall and easier to spin for training. Unfortunately when Piper designed what everyone asked for, no one liked it!!!
The best planes to stall are Mooneys. I've had several roll inverted on me with students. That will wake up your day. I always demo the stall first so I can see what its going to do! I used to teach inverted spins in the Decathlon though. :)
-Robert, CFII
RobertGary1 2 years ago
haha in our 206 our stall indicator buzzes on landing. but its much louder, and not so much like a chiken. lol. But i think thats because we have a stall kit. you can hear it on all my videos. lol
s54bmw 4 years ago
An instructor of mine used to say it sounded like a cat being strangled. LOL!! Good old C172, very much a non event when it stalls. Try stalling a Baron then you know you have stalled!!!!!!!
TheGrunter69 4 years ago 2
I've only flown a Baron once but what do the stalls feel like?
732lover 4 years ago
The stalls feel quite a bit different to the C172. Just feels more abrupt with quite a abrupt wing drop to about 30 - 40 degrees, with a lot of buffet. At least that was what happend with the one i got endorsed on
TheGrunter69 4 years ago
Sounds like a little bagpipe music to me. I guess Scots are more likely to stall? :-P
NedBurchfiel 4 years ago 2
you don't need to be at 3000, you need to be able to recover by 1500 ft AGL for SEL aircraft.
WESTECLD 4 years ago
Cessna puddle jumpers are SO MUCH FUN to fly
Stormchaser2be 4 years ago
Yup, it sure was. That's the call of the Cessna 172 Chickenhawk! LOL
soundwaviator 4 years ago 5
Wtf? Was that squeaky toy sounding thing his stall alarm? LOL
sk8rbj05 4 years ago
i dunno about a cesna but in the plane i fly in, grob tutor, it is a stall warner
miniphreeb 4 years ago