The same thing happened to Kennedy Road in this race as it did to Sham in the Belmont.They both tried to outrun the greatest race horse of all time it was just impossible
@MelC54 Its obvious you cant read Mel ive always said Secretariat was the greatest race horse of all time but the most important race horse was Northern Dancer because over 80% of the horses all over the world carry his bloodline not once but 2 or 3 times in some horses.He is considered thr greatest sire of the 20th century not only in North America but in Great Britain France Japan India Australia as well as many other countries,So its obvious you no nothing abouy TB race horseing. Case Closed
I don't believe Kennedy Road came in second place here good buddy. It was Big Spruce 2nd & Golden Don 3rd. Where Kennedy Road finished I don't know.(smile)
Kennedy Road was no slouch either and was on his home race course in defeat. Face it folks, Big Red did just about it all whether dirt, turf, 7F or a mile and a half. Horses like that come around about every 50 years or so. Finishing 2nd to Secretariat may seem like a loss to some but if I owned Kennedy Road I would have been proud of his performance.
@joefederico I have to agree. Kennedy Road was a great horse himself. He set a track record at Woodbine race track that stood for over 20 years. Secretariat was just that much better.
The closest for many years now, would have to be considered Zenyatta. Undefeated from 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs. On dirt and synthetics. She hasn't ever raced on Turf, but I suspect that as good as she's been on synthetics, that she'd be dynamite on Turf as well. JMO.
What a call by the announcer....."and the crowd is cheering because this is his last race....he's into the stretch in a blaze of glory-Secretariat, ladies and gentlemen he's all yours and he's coming to the wire........
Rather than get involved with the negative dialogue that seems to permeate this comment page , why not just watch and enjoy the greatest horse that ever set foot on a race track win his last race? We can all have our own views, but I prefer to just set in awe as Secretariat destroys another field of horses. I am just fortunate that he came along in my lifetime. I know the debate over who was better, Man O' War or Secretariat will never end, but compare the times over equal distances.
Secretariat never needed much coaxing. he was indeed capable of running his own race. Also, he in no way shape or form abused Secretariat. And Maple was incredibly honored and appreciative to be asked to replace Turcotte. He's a good jockey or he wouldn't have been asked.
Ahh! Some words of sense starz. I don't know what the hullaboo is all about. Of course I know carly's little comments can get under one's skin. If I had my copy of Ray Woolf's book out I'd find the passage which says Turcotte talked at length with Eddie Maple before race and surely Eddie knew he didn't have to whip this horse. I agree w/you. I've watched this race over many times and never thought I saw him whip S. Looks like was just exhuberant heading for finish and nothing was bothering Sec
Sometimes, a jockey must take a second or third hold, show the horse the whip, even tap the shoulder or rump to keep a horse focused. It's not Maple's fault that he had never ridden such a perfect horse before. I don't even know if he could have imagined how perfect Secretariat was until experiencing the ride of his life in this race. After the race, he probably fell to his knees and begged Secretariats forgiveness for forgetting he wasnt a real horse, that he was really a horse God!
I'm with you on all those points, and I don't understand why people to this day try to say Maple whipped him, when all he did was EXACTLY what Turcotte did with his stick at the end of both the Marlboro Cup and the Man o' War Stakes - he just flashed the whip in front of his right eye to remind him to finish off the race, that's all. Nothing wrong with it when Turcotte did it, so why the hell would there be when Maple did it? Total nonsense.
I have always wondered why Turcotte didnt get an injunction to postpone the suspension. However, Turcotte was a cool dude and always admitted that Secretariat could have been just as great with any rider. I believe that Turcotte fit Secretariat better than any. Eddie maple was hardly a shit jockey. Though, he was lucky to get the opportunity of a life time. And Big Red still won in style, against the wind and blowing all of them away.
Imagine the pressure on Maple to not lose this, Secretariats last race. He wasnt going to let anyone down, even if that meant to show the whip to the horse a couple of times. We all love Secretariat, but folks, would we even be discussing this now if Eddie Maple didnt take another hold on the reins and help keep Secretariat on a straight course? He really was excited to be riding the greatest horse ever!
My opinion: It looks like Eddie Maple MAY have tapped Big Red on the rump, almost forgetfully, as if he didnt mean to do it. OR as he was showing the whip to Secretariat, as jockeys often do, while looking back to see how far behind the others were. it kind of looks like he tapped him once, lightly. I hardly think there was any intention to whip the colt, and he wasnt whipped.
You are wrong. He was FLASHING the whip in front of his right eye. Turcotte did EXACTLY the same thing near the end of both the Marlboro Cup AND the Man o' War Stakes. If you cannot see that, then you are beyond the capability of seeing reality.
Secretariat needed Ron Turcotte in this race. I couldn't believe how Eddie Maple mishandled him at the end...what a shit jockey on the greatest horse of all time. He was using his whip and the reins. He's a disgrace. He didn't deserve to ride him in his last race. It's unfortunate that Ron wasn't allowed to..he would have allowed the horse to run the race the way Secretariat wanted to...He understood...
@Tazzy5 Well said, I agree - Sec was a better athlete/strategist than Maple - It's a shame R turcotte couldn't run Sec in this final race; it would have been a stellar ending. Turcotte & Secretariat understood each other - A Great Team!
Watched it again, and I don't agree with you or anyone else. In fact, for reasons other than this comment, I don't wish to communicate with you anymore. Let's just you and I go our seperate ways. We don't have to play this out publicly, and this isn't due to your opinion about the whip or not. I categorically disagree with your opinion, but recognize it nonetheless.
Hey carly, let me ask you: What possible reason would you make a snide comment like that for? I told you in my previous comment that WE DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THIS OUT PUBLICLY. What that means (as if I have to explain) is that you have all the means to contact me so that, if you wish, we can hash this out privately. Why you would brazenly ignore that request is beyond me.
She has all my contact info, and can contact me at any time she chooses in order to avoid the pervasive nastiness that so often plagues YT and the internet as a whole. Instead, she decides to make a snide comment. Go figure. I am not going be a part of that kind of public spat, period.
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Why you would make it personal in the first place is beyond me. You too have my information and could have simply messaged me. I had no intention of making it personal. I just wanted to point out to you I could see how people would think he was whipped.
You, ONCE AGAIN, have ignored what I said in my original comment directed to you on this video, so I will repeat it: For reasons OTHER than this comment, I don't wish to communicate with you anymore. Is that not clear? I also told you that I do not agree with your position on whether he was whipped or not, but recognize your opinion nonetheless.
You just cannot leave it alone, and you always have to throw that last little jab in there, don't you? Look, I've been simple, direct, and dignified with you. I told you I don't agree with your position on whether Maple whipped him, and told you I don't wish to communicate with you FOR REASONS other than these comments. No need to wash the dirty laundry in public. How is that a problem? I have no interest in talking to you, either, which is what I said in the first place.
@cmf4321 The same way that you mishandled Eddie Maples big dick when you attempted to deep throat it and suck him dry back in 1978 on the Belmont backstretch??
are you kidding me last race greatest horse ever and this is the best video an absolute disgrace!! please woodbine forward the complete race and great call by daryl wells rip
He had an ancestor who was called the Big Train! I was surprised to discover Secretariat had Man O War relations! Sö tomorrow can Big Brown who has our Dancer as a gg sire win the triple crown? We sure could use something good! I was 11 when I watched Northern Dancer win the derby and preakness and we all cried about the Belmont. Smarty Jones too made us cry. History we hope is with us tomorrow.
My favorite thing about Secretariat is that he never looks like he's running hard. Just a gallop next to other horses running flat out. Just an awesome machine
I had the good fortune of being there for his last race. A "LIVING LOCOMOTIVE" was an apt description of how this awesome creature moved. He had a massive 'motor' (Hind quarter)
and a chest bigger than Pamela Anderson's.
TRIVIA:
A horse called 'Big Spruce' finished second that year(73)and coincidently, second again the following year.(74)
My God I love this!! "THERE he goes.. Penny moves forward in seat, roar of crowd increases, and when the camera ZOOMS in on bleacher crowd AT SAME TIME as that guy stands up and lunges forward, wow!
Such an amazing Horse...I don't know where he gets that burst of energy from after running so long already in the race.
beboystyle 1 year ago
Ron Turcotte would have let him run through the finish, and the margin of victory would have been around 10 lengths. Eddie Maple eased him.
whitethronebooks 1 year ago
Thank you for this! I was there at Woodbine .. a thrill I will never forget. Secretariat was breathtaking to watch.
Phivoh 1 year ago
This is the third time you have said "case closed". Why do you keep responding?
MelC54 1 year ago
The same thing happened to Kennedy Road in this race as it did to Sham in the Belmont.They both tried to outrun the greatest race horse of all time it was just impossible
fklifter1 1 year ago
@fklifter1 You mean Northern Dancer couldn't have beat Secretariat?
MelC54 1 year ago
@MelC54 Its obvious you cant read Mel ive always said Secretariat was the greatest race horse of all time but the most important race horse was Northern Dancer because over 80% of the horses all over the world carry his bloodline not once but 2 or 3 times in some horses.He is considered thr greatest sire of the 20th century not only in North America but in Great Britain France Japan India Australia as well as many other countries,So its obvious you no nothing abouy TB race horseing. Case Closed
fklifter1 1 year ago
@fklifter1 oops horse racing lol
fklifter1 1 year ago
@MelC54 How could Northern Dancer beat a horse that was a living locomotive?
gotch09 1 year ago
@gotch09 Maybe your comment is misdirected. I NEVER said Northern Dancer could beat Secretariat.
MelC54 1 year ago
@MelC54 Perhaps.
gotch09 1 year ago
The greatest to ever grace a racetrack in my lifetime. Frankly, Zenyatta is the closest I've seen to perfection since "Big Red." IMO.
GBeret83 1 year ago
I don't believe Kennedy Road came in second place here good buddy. It was Big Spruce 2nd & Golden Don 3rd. Where Kennedy Road finished I don't know.(smile)
rscarbro100 2 years ago
@rscarbro100 Fourth...gassed,,,just like Sham at Belmont.
MelC54 1 year ago
Kennedy Road was no slouch either and was on his home race course in defeat. Face it folks, Big Red did just about it all whether dirt, turf, 7F or a mile and a half. Horses like that come around about every 50 years or so. Finishing 2nd to Secretariat may seem like a loss to some but if I owned Kennedy Road I would have been proud of his performance.
joefederico 2 years ago
@joefederico I have to agree. Kennedy Road was a great horse himself. He set a track record at Woodbine race track that stood for over 20 years. Secretariat was just that much better.
gvbezoff 2 years ago
The closest for many years now, would have to be considered Zenyatta. Undefeated from 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs. On dirt and synthetics. She hasn't ever raced on Turf, but I suspect that as good as she's been on synthetics, that she'd be dynamite on Turf as well. JMO.
GBeret83 1 year ago
This is the anniversary of the race.
ewd76 2 years ago
What a call by the announcer....."and the crowd is cheering because this is his last race....he's into the stretch in a blaze of glory-Secretariat, ladies and gentlemen he's all yours and he's coming to the wire........
jackgotlucky 2 years ago 2
what i dont get is...why doesnt he just take off flying? lmao. what a great horse.
chakadoodledoo 2 years ago 2
@chakadoodledoo I think Eddie Maple said that Kennedy Road accidently bumped Secretariat or something, and then Secretariat just took off.
gotch09 1 year ago
THERE HE GOES, THERE HE GOES!
lengua92 2 years ago 13
Rather than get involved with the negative dialogue that seems to permeate this comment page , why not just watch and enjoy the greatest horse that ever set foot on a race track win his last race? We can all have our own views, but I prefer to just set in awe as Secretariat destroys another field of horses. I am just fortunate that he came along in my lifetime. I know the debate over who was better, Man O' War or Secretariat will never end, but compare the times over equal distances.
MelC54 2 years ago 2
well said
jetdr 2 years ago
he has such a high action when he runs
kopkingstevie 2 years ago 2
One of my favorite shots of Secretariat is this race when he's coming out of that last turn. MACHINE!
GuderiansGrunt 3 years ago 3
you got that right!!!!
starzinliberty 3 years ago
Peace my friends, peace, be still... the great Secretariat speaks!
starzinliberty 3 years ago 4
Just go way kaiser...it's that simple.
bbmtge 3 years ago 3
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Nah, I'm good. :D
carlykaiser 3 years ago
Who here goes to Carlyidiot's videos and makes comments? How is it that she just does not go away?
bbmtge 3 years ago 4
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Because I don't follow orders by someone who is on the internet.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
It is reported that Man O' war once dated Sir Barton. I read it in People.....or Horse.
bbmtge 3 years ago 3
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Enjoying yourself?
carlykaiser 3 years ago
Man O' War was a gay horse.
bbmtge 3 years ago
Secretariat never needed much coaxing. he was indeed capable of running his own race. Also, he in no way shape or form abused Secretariat. And Maple was incredibly honored and appreciative to be asked to replace Turcotte. He's a good jockey or he wouldn't have been asked.
starzinliberty 3 years ago
Ahh! Some words of sense starz. I don't know what the hullaboo is all about. Of course I know carly's little comments can get under one's skin. If I had my copy of Ray Woolf's book out I'd find the passage which says Turcotte talked at length with Eddie Maple before race and surely Eddie knew he didn't have to whip this horse. I agree w/you. I've watched this race over many times and never thought I saw him whip S. Looks like was just exhuberant heading for finish and nothing was bothering Sec
bon1042 2 years ago 2
Sometimes, a jockey must take a second or third hold, show the horse the whip, even tap the shoulder or rump to keep a horse focused. It's not Maple's fault that he had never ridden such a perfect horse before. I don't even know if he could have imagined how perfect Secretariat was until experiencing the ride of his life in this race. After the race, he probably fell to his knees and begged Secretariats forgiveness for forgetting he wasnt a real horse, that he was really a horse God!
starzinliberty 3 years ago
I'm with you on all those points, and I don't understand why people to this day try to say Maple whipped him, when all he did was EXACTLY what Turcotte did with his stick at the end of both the Marlboro Cup and the Man o' War Stakes - he just flashed the whip in front of his right eye to remind him to finish off the race, that's all. Nothing wrong with it when Turcotte did it, so why the hell would there be when Maple did it? Total nonsense.
gfn02 3 years ago 13
I have always wondered why Turcotte didnt get an injunction to postpone the suspension. However, Turcotte was a cool dude and always admitted that Secretariat could have been just as great with any rider. I believe that Turcotte fit Secretariat better than any. Eddie maple was hardly a shit jockey. Though, he was lucky to get the opportunity of a life time. And Big Red still won in style, against the wind and blowing all of them away.
starzinliberty 3 years ago
Imagine the pressure on Maple to not lose this, Secretariats last race. He wasnt going to let anyone down, even if that meant to show the whip to the horse a couple of times. We all love Secretariat, but folks, would we even be discussing this now if Eddie Maple didnt take another hold on the reins and help keep Secretariat on a straight course? He really was excited to be riding the greatest horse ever!
starzinliberty 3 years ago
My opinion: It looks like Eddie Maple MAY have tapped Big Red on the rump, almost forgetfully, as if he didnt mean to do it. OR as he was showing the whip to Secretariat, as jockeys often do, while looking back to see how far behind the others were. it kind of looks like he tapped him once, lightly. I hardly think there was any intention to whip the colt, and he wasnt whipped.
starzinliberty 3 years ago
You are wrong. He was FLASHING the whip in front of his right eye. Turcotte did EXACTLY the same thing near the end of both the Marlboro Cup AND the Man o' War Stakes. If you cannot see that, then you are beyond the capability of seeing reality.
gfn02 3 years ago
y was he destyroed in kentucky again?
1eliza490 3 years ago
Secretariat got Laminitis. That's the same thing that ended up killing Barbaro.
Dingerz 3 years ago
Secretariat needed Ron Turcotte in this race. I couldn't believe how Eddie Maple mishandled him at the end...what a shit jockey on the greatest horse of all time. He was using his whip and the reins. He's a disgrace. He didn't deserve to ride him in his last race. It's unfortunate that Ron wasn't allowed to..he would have allowed the horse to run the race the way Secretariat wanted to...He understood...
cmf4321 3 years ago
Secretariat needed no whip. I agree, disgraceful. You don't whip nobility.
Tazzy5 3 years ago
@Tazzy5 Well said, I agree - Sec was a better athlete/strategist than Maple - It's a shame R turcotte couldn't run Sec in this final race; it would have been a stellar ending. Turcotte & Secretariat understood each other - A Great Team!
nin12dog 4 months ago
He did NOT whip him in this race. I've told you that before.
gfn02 3 years ago
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gfn02, around 3:26 it does look like he was whipped. He did not flash it in front of Red's eye, he went for his bum.
I can see where that person is coming from.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
Watched it again, and I don't agree with you or anyone else. In fact, for reasons other than this comment, I don't wish to communicate with you anymore. Let's just you and I go our seperate ways. We don't have to play this out publicly, and this isn't due to your opinion about the whip or not. I categorically disagree with your opinion, but recognize it nonetheless.
gfn02 3 years ago 7
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Way to make it personal.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
Hey carly, let me ask you: What possible reason would you make a snide comment like that for? I told you in my previous comment that WE DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THIS OUT PUBLICLY. What that means (as if I have to explain) is that you have all the means to contact me so that, if you wish, we can hash this out privately. Why you would brazenly ignore that request is beyond me.
gfn02 3 years ago 6
I see the young lady is up to her usual.
bbmtge 3 years ago 3
She has all my contact info, and can contact me at any time she chooses in order to avoid the pervasive nastiness that so often plagues YT and the internet as a whole. Instead, she decides to make a snide comment. Go figure. I am not going be a part of that kind of public spat, period.
gfn02 3 years ago 6
It's simply agitation. Refer her to her high school football team. They can deal with it.
bbmtge 3 years ago 4
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Why you would make it personal in the first place is beyond me. You too have my information and could have simply messaged me. I had no intention of making it personal. I just wanted to point out to you I could see how people would think he was whipped.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
You, ONCE AGAIN, have ignored what I said in my original comment directed to you on this video, so I will repeat it: For reasons OTHER than this comment, I don't wish to communicate with you anymore. Is that not clear? I also told you that I do not agree with your position on whether he was whipped or not, but recognize your opinion nonetheless.
gfn02 3 years ago 7
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Okay. That is not the situation, here. But whatever. I wont talk you you anymore, ever.
carlykaiser 3 years ago
You just cannot leave it alone, and you always have to throw that last little jab in there, don't you? Look, I've been simple, direct, and dignified with you. I told you I don't agree with your position on whether Maple whipped him, and told you I don't wish to communicate with you FOR REASONS other than these comments. No need to wash the dirty laundry in public. How is that a problem? I have no interest in talking to you, either, which is what I said in the first place.
gfn02 3 years ago
Are you going to back off of this untrue claim?
gfn02 3 years ago
@cmf4321 The same way that you mishandled Eddie Maples big dick when you attempted to deep throat it and suck him dry back in 1978 on the Belmont backstretch??
yourdickis2limp 1 year ago
are you kidding me last race greatest horse ever and this is the best video an absolute disgrace!! please woodbine forward the complete race and great call by daryl wells rip
chuckinontario 3 years ago 4
He had an ancestor who was called the Big Train! I was surprised to discover Secretariat had Man O War relations! Sö tomorrow can Big Brown who has our Dancer as a gg sire win the triple crown? We sure could use something good! I was 11 when I watched Northern Dancer win the derby and preakness and we all cried about the Belmont. Smarty Jones too made us cry. History we hope is with us tomorrow.
kyldy 3 years ago
My favorite thing about Secretariat is that he never looks like he's running hard. Just a gallop next to other horses running flat out. Just an awesome machine
GuderiansGrunt 3 years ago 4
The crowd wasn't exactly sitting on their hands were they? LOL. What a terrific response. Thanks for posting this, Dingerz.
SmartyAlex11 4 years ago
Love this...wow that crowd...wish I could have been there....He looked like a living locomotive around that last turn.
shellpen10 4 years ago 2
I had the good fortune of being there for his last race. A "LIVING LOCOMOTIVE" was an apt description of how this awesome creature moved. He had a massive 'motor' (Hind quarter)
and a chest bigger than Pamela Anderson's.
TRIVIA:
A horse called 'Big Spruce' finished second that year(73)and coincidently, second again the following year.(74)
fruglescot 4 years ago
LISTEN! to that crowd as he heads for the final turn !! "they're standing and they're cheering because this is his last race..."
bon1042 4 years ago
A fitting ending to a superstar career! Secretariat riding off into the sunset a champion!
terjer01 4 years ago
...the big red breathing locomotive...
aquacave 4 years ago 2
Wow this is footage I've never seen. Totally wonderful, except I'm crying!!!
thespa77 4 years ago 2
My God I love this!! "THERE he goes.. Penny moves forward in seat, roar of crowd increases, and when the camera ZOOMS in on bleacher crowd AT SAME TIME as that guy stands up and lunges forward, wow!
bon1042 4 years ago
Absolutely fantastic! Big Red truly was a horse for all surfaces without a doubt. Great footage!
Thanks a bunch for posting this.
cf1970 4 years ago 2