Work has been progressing well on #4501 since official restoration began in March, 2011. And 21st Century Steam had it's kickoff on Saturday, September 3, 2011 when Southern 2-8-0 #630 made 2 runs that day and 2 the next day on the NS Mainline.
Update on 4501! The guy who sold us tickets to ride 610 on the Missionary Ridge excursion said that 4501 is planned to have excursions with NS beginning in 2011. When we saw her at East Chattanooga backshop, she was outside the shop with a black cab, red primer on the boiler, and the front of the boiler was off. So, hopefully that means they've been working on her. Here's hopin!!! :-) I wish I could post pics of how she looks right now.
So here's the scoop! We were at East Chattanooga this past weekend and rode Missionary Ridge with 610. The guy who sold us tickets said that hopefully in 2011, NS will be adding more excursions, including 4501!! He also said the boiler survey went very well. When we got to the back shop, we saw 4501 outside the shop. No rails were attached to the wheels. Her cab was painted black, the boiler had some kind of reddish primer, and the front of the boiler was still off. Let's hope this comes true!
The TVR hopes to have 4501 back in steam in time for her 100th birthday celebration next year. To bring her back, it'll be a quarter of a million dollars to a fix her, they might have some tricks up their sleeves to bring her back.
nice vid we are not exactly restorin her just yet not enough money 610 is going out of service around june 2010 and 630 should be out around september or so 4501 not at the top of the list we also have a 2-8-0 611 in the back of the yard
We were at the museum a few months ago, and the tender is still green and has 4501 on the sides. Then, we saw the engine inside the repair shop getting worked on. So, I truly hope she'll be up and running again. Not only that, I hope they get her as gorgeous as she was before. It's only right!
You must have saw 4501 old tender, it is still green. The tender she has now is painted black, just like the rest of the engine. To tell the difference the old tender has rivets on the side where as the new one is smooth sided.
They had to take her out of service because of new flues and the new FRA updates on steam locomotives, Have to have 2 water glasses on the backhead just in case. Some of the early 2-8-2 only had 1 water glass
I hear 4501 may come across the mountains to bryson city to help the GSMRR get back on track. They have lost alot of support since the steam operations halted and the dillsboro closure.
explosion in Gettysburg and the guy that blew himself up on the steam tractor in Ohio that had to do allot with the new rules. All the FRA does is to make sure that they are done. I don't think you don't want to be around a unsafe boiler do you
well i think that the people at gettysburg were idiots...the story i heard is that they didn't have the boiler filled with enough water and when they crested a hill KABOOM!
but they wouldn't do that because everyone would see how much better steam really is. I mean they lasted this long. They adapted to all these boiler regulations and all that other crap. and some of them are way over 150 years old. my point being...STEAM IS BETTER THAN DIESEL!!
Great video!! I can't believe the 4501 has been out of service for almost 10 years (will be exactly in September). This is the longest period of time it has gone unserviceable since Paul Merriman purchased it from the K&T in 1966. This is a rather unusual move as the TVRM crews did not use 4501 often on the Missionary Ridge local as supposedly 4501 was rather heavy and stalled out the turntable a few times because of the engine and tender weight combined.
I apologize for the starburst filter. I went through an unfortunate fascination there for a short time. For the opening scene I placed the camcorder on a short tripod about ten inches above the platform and just outside the yellow line.
I hope that is true, I'll be interested in finding out. I'm headed to TVRM next Saturday to ride a "Steam All The Way" excursion behind the 610. I would love to see a 630 and 4501 doubleheader some day, especially since I was born after they doubleheaded in 1976 on excursions out of Alexandria, Virginia.
Can you ride in the cab? I think it's a complete and utter waste of time to restore an old diesel. You can see those every day, and they're so boring to watch. I should have changed my screen name to Dieselsuckbigtime. I'd rather hear a musical whistle play out though the mountains than some ugly horn. Diesels have no SOUL, period.
You can ride in the cab, to ride in USA #610, you have to pay $20 plus your ticket fee, to rid in the cab of one of the geep's or RSD-1's, it's $10 plus the ticket price.
@SouthernRR4501 Your comment is telling of the sad state of affairs. HISTORY deserves to be saved, be it old or "modern". The history of the railroads did not end with steam. I love steam too but let's work on preserving RAILROAD history for all generations.
yeah I saw that diesel in the backshops last time I went. I'm glad they decide to do something with it. hopefully it'll be operable and who knows maybe we can see it and Southern 6900 run together.
hopefully. they have a lot of stuff to work on and not enough help to fix it all, also i would love to see the 4501 see the light of day again. it is sad since most railroads have so much waste since you can always see so many rusted out and non working cars and engines
true. It's a shame alot of good engines such as Frisco 1522, C&O 2716, NCstl 576, A&WP 290 just to name a few are now either put away or just not running anymore. One day I plan to become an engineer so I can help restore some of the links to the past.
Work has been progressing well on #4501 since official restoration began in March, 2011. And 21st Century Steam had it's kickoff on Saturday, September 3, 2011 when Southern 2-8-0 #630 made 2 runs that day and 2 the next day on the NS Mainline.
TVRM610 5 months ago
I wish I could hit the LIKE button 1000 times, but it won't let me! Any updates on the 2011 restore completion?
FreeFallin1976 1 year ago
Update on 4501! The guy who sold us tickets to ride 610 on the Missionary Ridge excursion said that 4501 is planned to have excursions with NS beginning in 2011. When we saw her at East Chattanooga backshop, she was outside the shop with a black cab, red primer on the boiler, and the front of the boiler was off. So, hopefully that means they've been working on her. Here's hopin!!! :-) I wish I could post pics of how she looks right now.
FreeFallin1976 1 year ago
So here's the scoop! We were at East Chattanooga this past weekend and rode Missionary Ridge with 610. The guy who sold us tickets said that hopefully in 2011, NS will be adding more excursions, including 4501!! He also said the boiler survey went very well. When we got to the back shop, we saw 4501 outside the shop. No rails were attached to the wheels. Her cab was painted black, the boiler had some kind of reddish primer, and the front of the boiler was still off. Let's hope this comes true!
FreeFallin1976 1 year ago
SEE NS NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT LINK IN UPDATED DESCRIPTION.
WearybottomAssociate 1 year ago
The TVR hopes to have 4501 back in steam in time for her 100th birthday celebration next year. To bring her back, it'll be a quarter of a million dollars to a fix her, they might have some tricks up their sleeves to bring her back.
Chris9017 1 year ago
nice vid we are not exactly restorin her just yet not enough money 610 is going out of service around june 2010 and 630 should be out around september or so 4501 not at the top of the list we also have a 2-8-0 611 in the back of the yard
tvrmjunkie 2 years ago
We were at the museum a few months ago, and the tender is still green and has 4501 on the sides. Then, we saw the engine inside the repair shop getting worked on. So, I truly hope she'll be up and running again. Not only that, I hope they get her as gorgeous as she was before. It's only right!
FreeFallin1976 2 years ago
You must have saw 4501 old tender, it is still green. The tender she has now is painted black, just like the rest of the engine. To tell the difference the old tender has rivets on the side where as the new one is smooth sided.
coolbreeze4501 2 years ago
I love this loco f*** the FRA da**it
TheRailRoadkid 2 years ago
They had to take her out of service because of new flues and the new FRA updates on steam locomotives, Have to have 2 water glasses on the backhead just in case. Some of the early 2-8-2 only had 1 water glass
foxrivermotorman 2 years ago
This is a priceless video!!
FreeFallin1976 2 years ago
Thank you so much. I hope to have her in my viewfinder again soon.
WearybottomAssociate 2 years ago
I hear 4501 may come across the mountains to bryson city to help the GSMRR get back on track. They have lost alot of support since the steam operations halted and the dillsboro closure.
hacrac2319 2 years ago
Well they have the 722 they just havnt restored it yet either, they dont have any money to restore them.
yadkinrailfan99 2 years ago
Well because of what happened at Gettysburg they are realy tuff on boiler stuff now. Having 2 working water glasses in the cab and 2 workable water
injectors and other things. They have to do
on her and maybe a new firebox.
foxrivermotorman 2 years ago
Screw the FRA
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
Well it aslo had to do with the near boiler
explosion in Gettysburg and the guy that blew himself up on the steam tractor in Ohio that had to do allot with the new rules. All the FRA does is to make sure that they are done. I don't think you don't want to be around a unsafe boiler do you
foxrivermotorman 2 years ago
well i think that the people at gettysburg were idiots...the story i heard is that they didn't have the boiler filled with enough water and when they crested a hill KABOOM!
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
Why'd they take her out of service anyways?
Trainfanatic192 3 years ago
Because her boiler certificate expired.
Chris9017 3 years ago
but they wouldn't do that because everyone would see how much better steam really is. I mean they lasted this long. They adapted to all these boiler regulations and all that other crap. and some of them are way over 150 years old. my point being...STEAM IS BETTER THAN DIESEL!!
nicholasbreeden 3 years ago 4
amen. Steam is way more bad ass than diesel.
WhyAyeMann 3 years ago
Great great video. Thanks so much for sharing it!!
FreeFallin1976 3 years ago
I wonder when 4501 will be back.
Airboy15 3 years ago 2
I remeber the first time I visited TVRM, 4501 was pulling the train.
amtraklover 3 years ago
Beatuiful locomotive
3254man 3 years ago
The shot at 3:10 is exactly like a picture I took of #610 in 2004.
back10506 3 years ago
Great video!! I can't believe the 4501 has been out of service for almost 10 years (will be exactly in September). This is the longest period of time it has gone unserviceable since Paul Merriman purchased it from the K&T in 1966. This is a rather unusual move as the TVRM crews did not use 4501 often on the Missionary Ridge local as supposedly 4501 was rather heavy and stalled out the turntable a few times because of the engine and tender weight combined.
NWPowhatanArrow611 3 years ago
I apologize for the starburst filter. I went through an unfortunate fascination there for a short time. For the opening scene I placed the camcorder on a short tripod about ten inches above the platform and just outside the yellow line.
WearybottomAssociate 3 years ago
I like it, it's like the heavons have opened up on this beautiful machine.
SouthernRR4501 3 years ago
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TVRM610 3 years ago
I hope that is true, I'll be interested in finding out. I'm headed to TVRM next Saturday to ride a "Steam All The Way" excursion behind the 610. I would love to see a 630 and 4501 doubleheader some day, especially since I was born after they doubleheaded in 1976 on excursions out of Alexandria, Virginia.
NWPowhatanArrow611 3 years ago
I know what ya mean. I really wish they'd bring her back into service. This is my favorite locomotive ever, and will always be.
FreeFallin1976 3 years ago
Can you ride in the cab? I think it's a complete and utter waste of time to restore an old diesel. You can see those every day, and they're so boring to watch. I should have changed my screen name to Dieselsuckbigtime. I'd rather hear a musical whistle play out though the mountains than some ugly horn. Diesels have no SOUL, period.
SouthernRR4501 3 years ago 3
You can ride in the cab, to ride in USA #610, you have to pay $20 plus your ticket fee, to rid in the cab of one of the geep's or RSD-1's, it's $10 plus the ticket price.
TVRM610 3 years ago
@SouthernRR4501 Your comment is telling of the sad state of affairs. HISTORY deserves to be saved, be it old or "modern". The history of the railroads did not end with steam. I love steam too but let's work on preserving RAILROAD history for all generations.
hollywood1340 1 year ago
honestly i'm waiting for the 6914 streamline diesel to return to service
stanx440 3 years ago
yeah I saw that diesel in the backshops last time I went. I'm glad they decide to do something with it. hopefully it'll be operable and who knows maybe we can see it and Southern 6900 run together.
amtraklover 3 years ago
hopefully. they have a lot of stuff to work on and not enough help to fix it all, also i would love to see the 4501 see the light of day again. it is sad since most railroads have so much waste since you can always see so many rusted out and non working cars and engines
stanx440 3 years ago
true. It's a shame alot of good engines such as Frisco 1522, C&O 2716, NCstl 576, A&WP 290 just to name a few are now either put away or just not running anymore. One day I plan to become an engineer so I can help restore some of the links to the past.
amtraklover 3 years ago 2
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TVRM610 3 years ago
Which whistle will they use? Will they use the 6-chime or the whistle 4501 had back in 1992?
FreeFallin1976 2 years ago
do you know when srr 630 will return to service?
Strasburg1991 3 years ago
Hopefully 2008 or 2009
TVRM610 3 years ago
she's close right?
Strasburg1991 3 years ago
Yes
TVRM610 3 years ago
good.
Strasburg1991 3 years ago