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  • got a lot of pot heads on these comments

  • judge alex. ur a dirtbag lol

  • The video and audio are out of synch by 5-10 seconds but it's fucking funny. "Not in the Orange Juice commerical you live in, I'm talking about real America " haha. I may not have got it right, but that shit was funny. Even the audience laughed.

    And what the fuck is alex talking about it's illegal? Alcohol was illegal during prohibition but people were still drinking it, even making it at home. The reason why weed's illegal is because pharmaceutical companies would see their profits swept up.

  • does anyone have the one whith carly rose sonenclar?

  • It's a fucking plant!!!!!

  • "kids are going to do it" legalize it and kill the black market so they can't obtain it. /end/

  • Muppets, sheep and a few more muppets in the audience! They'll clap anything lead by the show's opposition! Fucking sheep you deserve to be state owned slaves.

  • Barry Cooper has integrity, a characteristic many cops lack.

  • Judge Alex is thinking "oh crap, if this guy heps ppl not get arrested, I won't have a job as a judge". mm hmm. 'Zwat I thinks.

  • judge Alex what a scumbag.

  • That judge s a total douche bag!

  • think how stupid these people will feel when he wins

  • judge alex is a ignorant fag.... go green!! fuck cops

  • YES ON PROP 19!! Californians need to register to vote in preparation for November!!

  • They can try and make a mockery of Barry all they want but he is speaking the truth. They constantly cut him off and Do Not let him complete what he is trying to explain. They will all eat their words once us fellow Americans stand behind Barry and help follow through with all of this. I just wish there was a talk show where Berry could tell the entire story of why marijuana is illegal and his views of why it should be legal. Thank you Berry and someday brother we will all be free & in peace.

  • I'd like to see that 50/50 show! Somebody in Amsterdam should produce it. Arjan and Franco, or Barney's Farm

  • Go Barry!

  • Respond to this video...mr cooper is most definatley the adrenaline junkie he describes himself however in a more positive way.

  • 100% support from Norway to you and your crew Barry.

    I have now over the time seen much of your work via videos here on youtube, and I get pissed when seeing these tv-hosts just talk bullshitt, and wouldnt let you finnish your sentences. Also, you seem very smart, maybe its after your DEA-training or,just you as a person. But you really have a point in your speaking, not just yelling LEGALIZE! or something like that, you also like to bust corrupted cops. 

    Sorry for bad grammer\spelling~Peace

  • Fuck I bet that audience was told to clap after everything the Judge said. And of course the hosts think they know everything and are complete smartasses and pricks.

  • judge alex needs to smoke a joint and shut up.

  • Go barry go.

    legalize and end this madness.

  • patriot!

  • Yeah Alan kicked his ass

  • It was sad to hear the audience applaud judge alan. That shows how misinformed and manipulated the AMERICAN public is.

  • lol i kno , the crowd are retards

  • I don't inhale. Awesome.

  • Marijuana is just a plant god made.

    Leave pot smokers along

  • its the same shit in europe with the ignorant misinformed peoples.

    but all of them smoking cigarettes or drinking beer when they watch a football or soccer game!

    legalize it wordwide!!

  • Judge Alan is a neo-con.

  • Barry Cooper sits high above the bantering of these people.

    Don't people realize the entire paradigm of weed as bad needs to be changed?

  • they sit and argue over pot, but yet y not have an argument over alcohol and tobacco. WHY is it legal and yet it causes more deaths every year?!?! explain that 2 me?!?! some how pot is such a "big" deal...... y? cuz the government cant stand see'n people relaxed and happy?? no they want us depressed and takin medication that contain Meth, Cocaine, etc. ....... its a vicious cycle. but hey they gotta make there money 2 right. jus my opinion

  • FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!!!! VOTE 4 BARRY

  • Every time one of these wealthy sheltered white people talks about how they have so much faith in the police force, I just want to puke. It's truly astonishing how different classes of people's experiences with the police can be so fundamentally different that these interviewers seem completely oblivious to the level of police corruption that occurs in the US on a daily basis. It's as though it simply doesn't exist because their little "world" is sheltered from it. Truly painful to watch...

  • This interview truly shows how ignorant and misinformed people can really be. It disgusts me to see people like this try and shut Barry down on television. Legalizing marijuana throughout the US would have such a positive effect on our lives (and not just pot-smokers). Less people in the jails, less major drug dealers, and a happier society. Why is this so hard to see? Keep doing what you're doing Barry, keep spreading the word. And let us know how we can help in supporting this!

  • Judge Alex is an asshole !!!!! And that bitch should keep her mouth shut cause she doesn't know shit !

  • This guy dosend lokk just hi but drunk aswell. Looks like hes got a problem.

  • lokk (look), hi (high), aswell (as well), there's an apostrophe in the word hes as well. Looks like you've got a problem.

  • These people we're cunt. Totally rude and dismissive. Such spoon fed nonsense. Judge Alex is a complete cunt.

  • look at des assholes against dis shit they sit ther an try to put dwn wen it aint nothin but up

  • Barry Cooper is my fucking hero

  • @grayarea19 yeah mine too

  • it was not a fair fight =( they are just against pot =( why cant they just stop putting America down?

  • Corrupt government, corrupt cops, corrupt system. We must announce in one voice. WE WILL NOT LIVE AS SLAVES! YOU ARE NOT OUR GODS AND IF WE MUST DIE FOR OUR CAUSE WE DIE FREE!!!!!

  • funny how the judge lied at the very beginning, " I was a cop at 19" umm no you have to be 21 to Cary a pistol sorry, I was in police explorers I know. and barry doesn't support drunk drivers. and also "those aren't the cops i know" as if barry is the only guy doing this thing. if this was true KOP busters wouldn't be so successful.

  • Barry Cooper your the shit I hate how people try to over talk you because you have good shit here man!!

    Thanks for keeping the little guy safer

  • thats why they got cancelled

  • FUCK U JUDGE ALEX U FUCKING GUMBY LOOKING BITCH... Cooper is right the legal system has turned into a fucking nazi ran organization, noone gives a shit u just become a number, no matter what the crime is.

  • "exactly. SALE".

    sounds like a worried investor.

  • cops hate barry cooper... so i like barry! i have the same heart as barry... but i'm a little more violent.

  • fuck the fuckingmedia barry cooper with best

  • swallow before you talk at me son

  • how do you say so much with a mouth full of dick?????????????

  • jude alex has a bitchy voice, do you hear that shit, its redicoulous.

    And ofcourse the well paid host of the show are going to be against marijuana, and for the redicoulous marijuana laws, because they are rich and dont give two shits about the avarage American.

    I cant stand some peoples high and mighty ( my shit dont stink ) attitudes, like jude alex's attitude, what a moron he is.

  • p.s. FREEDOM OF SPEECH

    dont you just love how serious ppl get about weed. its rediculous

  • i love how they always ask the same questions and he always has the same answer for every question. he almost is ready to read their minds!!

    id be willing to volunteer to be his number 2 :)

  • It's funny how in every interview..

    the "anti-pot" people try to change the subject to alcohol / coke / and others

    They're full of shit, and need to open their eyes

  • No my kind sir Judge Alex, you are wrong, let the man speak and fucking KILL yourself

  • I wanna see judge alex and Barry one on one.

  • Oh yea by the way Judge Alex was totally right. I never would of considered trying pot, but because of Barry's video- I've seen that maybe I can't be caught. Now im a criminal pothead all because of Barry. Jesus prohibition supporters logic is so twisted it makes me sick.

  • haha also it was funny how barry shut that blond whore up real quick when he said according to u 42% of americans are criminals.

  • yea this was actually 4 on 1. people forget about the lights that cue the audience to clap. i know anslinger is responsible for making weed illegal, but is there any one person or group actively keeping it illegal that can be targeted besides lobbyists, industries & crooked cops?

  • I have seen/heard Barry debate a lot of people, and not one has ever got the best of him, no matter how many people gang up on him. Of course that is because all of the evidence points to what he is doing is right, and what the drug warriors are doing ruins countless lives through horrible violence. You simply cannot properly defend violence against non-violent people, except to other sick sick people.

  • barry is the man...great leader for trying to make bud legal!!

  • 3 on 1 and barry still came out on top

  • notice how the audience is more favorable to the crew of the morning show than barry.. the audience are notified when to clap or laugh by a red sign which hilights, laugh, clap etc...

    such a lame trick to win over a small debade

    sorry for my bad english

    gotta find some weed..its been a while...

  • barry schooled these nwo goons

  • The judge never watched what barry was saying.

    Barry wasn't saying where to hide anything. He was saying how to make it harder to find. There's a difference.

  • Judge Alex is a tightwipe with a metal pole jodged up his butt.

  • these t.v. hosts are biased morons.

  • 3 against barry

    this shows how gifted he is with leadership skills

    awesome job

  • Alex is a wanker.

  • 3 on 1 fukkin bullshit but berry still fukked'em up

  • asswipes

  • thank god for people like barry. We need more people that are willing to stand up for what is truly right instead of what the system says is right.

  • Barry is great!! AND RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I was a responsible pot smoker for 10 years and never had a single negative experience ever!!!!! The only reason I quit was my bullsh*t job!!!!

  • Yeah I Really hate biased interviews and shows. They're Incredibly pathetic to watch. Makes me always want to write a letter of complete dissatisfaction, but realizing the 0 difference it'd make, I just cringe....

  • I find it funny that in every interview that Barry Cooper is involved in, all of the tv hosts and news reporters always say "why don't you change the law?" Any dumbass knows that it's much easier said than done, obviously. The war on drugs is and has always been a waste of resources. I commend Barry for standing up for what is right. I for one will continue to smoke cannabis, and I will not stop. Fuck prohibition and fuck the fedral government.

  • How much do you want to bet that even the live audience was selectively chosen to go along with the networks / governments / multi billion sponsorships . Barry is the voice that needs to be heard and addressed . Obama is given more rights to the bankers who stole 7Trillion from the same american people who are being locked up and having their civil rights abused. I'm not really trying to get into a debate with our president ,but i'm a Ron Paul supporter .

  • I commend you for the comment. I was a former Obama supporter/voter, and I have to say, I regret voting for him. I don't want to start a political debate either, but you're absolutely right, we need more politicians, like Ron Paul, who are willing to stand up for our rights as people. Nationalities aside, the very fact that I am a human being garuntees that I have the right to do what I want, when I want as long as my actions do not harm or otherwise affect others in a negative way.

  • As far as The President is concerned, I voted for anything that wasnt Republican. Even though I cheered along whenever he said "Yes We Can" but now I am getting really concerned. I 'm trying not to get confused but there's a lot of cloud forming. And yes I sharply disagreed W bailouts 2 the same banks who give 1% on savings account but charge 10% on borrowings, & they need a bail out from whom !!!!? Thats ludicrous !! I just hope a revolution doesnt happen in this country, coz its going 2B bad.

  • More people are arrested for driving drunk, than smoking weed because its quick and easy to test for intoxication than dealing with blood and piss to test for weed. Like every job people take the easy route to get the job done.

  • you can test for weed with a swab in 5 minutes.

  • Oh! He's aTV judge. Like House is a doctor and Sally Field is a nun and my mother is a car. Blather for the sake of being a vehicle to sell cleaning products to a do nothing audience.

    And somehow,this is all o.k.?

  • go shove your gavel up your ass, ask wanabe regis and kelly how it's done. They're part of that 54 percent that have only ever drunk to get at there preferred stupid level so they should know how it's done specially that piss-head bitch never smoked she must have to achieve her pleasure up the ass.

    35% of accidents

    Are cause by pixilated

    The other 65% are not

    Alcohol related

    What does this tell us

    About the drunk drivers

    They seem to have a

    Better record than

    the sober team

  • Haha! NOFX!

  • was this on fox or something? seriously, fucking garbage, "You're not speaking for me" bahahah fucking cunt

  • Don't watch daytime TV! Its effects are far worse than pot.

  • and marty i could huff axe all day through a gasoline soaked rag and not nearly achieve the level of stupid-fucked-up-ness i would be if i watched cable all day. forget pot, you wanna get high kid? watch abc

  • This may sound crazy but i think they could be threatened by the police. They might have to say that they disagree. Cos otherwise it would influence other people

  • Prohibition is insane. Those who continue to desire prohibition are one of three things: Ignorant, Evil, or Brain-damaged.

    If this stuff continues, I want Obama arrested now for cocaine use and imprisoned and raped. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Obama or Al Gore's kid.

  • god damn these people running the show and the audience are fucking stupid.

  • too bad the people who host the show, as well as the audeince are all a bunch of ignorant fucks. right on barry! keep makin those videos. "we have a civic duty to disobey injust laws, just as we have a duty to follow them" -martin luther king Jr.

  • give barry a break...fuck you guys who think hes wrong cuz you guys are ignorant

  • Alas corporate media brainwashing the American multitude with its conservative values, a true conservative would defend the constitution and the rights that are granted by it. Its a god given right to be able to put anything in your body so long as no one expect the user is harmed by it. But no the governmental agencies (DEA) are profiting to much by busting drug runners, confiscating the goods and selling them back to the black market at inflated prices. Wake up Drones!

  • JA does  his research prior to taping, I'll give him that much. No, I'm not a drug-war militant.

  • Barry Cooper for Texas Attorney General 2010!!

  • barry these retards on this show with you should be set up and busted and sent to prison and fucked up the ass, they would probably like it so let's just shoot them, pot only harms because it's been made a crime to use it, stand up america and free all those you have caged for doing what a true free human should be allowed to do...

  • All of my pot head friends are just relaxed and just mellow. All my drunk friends act obnoxious all the fuckn time.

  • Why is there laughing in the background? This guy is a fucking hero imo.

  • The amount of people clapping for these conservative fucks and laughing at Barry makes me sick. We should be fucking outraged at how many people the USA locks up each year for smoking a joint. They have adopted a 0 tolerance for drugs. Why dont we adopt a 0 tolerance for injustice?

  • These conservative fucks are part of the ass raping system that profits from the imaginary war on drugs.

  • holy ......shit........ worst morning show ever.

  • Wait-this pig fuck says 13000 people a year are killed by drunk drivers-but nobody wants to criminalize alcohol...lets attack those ptheads instead...

  • arctodus111 I think you are not giving Barry a chance, your right alcohol should be criminalized, but we fight against govt, and state, local corrupt law enforcement!!! 4-20 is tomorrow Peace out bro

  • Alcohol should NOT be criminalized. Are you listening to anything people are saying? It should remain every americans right to put anything they want into their bodies as long as they are not harming anyone else.

  • Barry keep up the awesome work you are doing, this country needs people like you, I buy your videos and pass them around to other interested persons of like mindedness. It's nice to see an ex-lawman standing for the truth. Be careful of who you allow to do interviews with, stay sharp!

  • wow talk shows are fuckin lame..." ets invite sumbody on our show and pretend to be interested in what he says and then attack him....... corporate media at its worst they need to lighten up and smoke a doobie and judge alex is a fuckin douche

  • It's not that I think people should do all the drugs they want, but is there anything wrong with reforming our crime criteria to simply stealing and violent behavior? I'm sure there are a few other things that can be included as a crime like destruction of property, stalking, drunk driving etc. but how on earth does it make sense to punish people who at the worst are only hurting themselves? I mean if somebody punches them self in the head repeatedly on a daily basis should they be arrested?

  • everytime i see american tv-shows i get the feelng the showmasters prefer to her them self instead of the guy they have invitedfor an interview. they dont listen to the arguments, they just wait until they can talk. and when they talk they just say what theyr viewers wanna hear, i dont think that they are really belliving what theyay. think barry makes some good points, people and politics should listen him, not only for social and ethical, but also for economical reasons.

  • greetz fro germany

  • geeeez, what kind of conservative wet dream is this show? Fortunately most people are more reasonable than The Morning Show or it's audience.

  • Barry your so right mate keep it up!. you are the white tupac!!!!!

  • go barry

  • obviously the hosts of the show didnt agree with you barry, so why bring on a judge who didnt agree either. they just ganged up on you, that was weak.

  • good for you barry

  • I hate how they always jump into what he's saying JUST LET HIM TALK.

  • people cant possibly think that it is right to make mother nature illegal

    barry i give you my support, keep fighting

  • Pot is not Crack,

    alcohol messes you up 1000x more then Pot, people do not go Homless becuse of pot, People dont kill start fights for pot,

    Iam en Angry Violent drunk, iam a happy mellow stoner.

  • He's so right, the punishment does NOT fit the crime. Period.

  • at least that woman was trying to understand. i think she knows what he is talking about...

  • FUCK JUDGE ALEX. his show sucks anyhow.

  • Fuck them Barry. I hate how people against us just laugh off our claims, and make none of their own besides the normal "You're dumb because you smoke weed." Way to show them we aren't criminals. They are attacking you!

  • I totally agree with you.

    The judge they brought on is a fucking tool.

    I think I saw his TV SHOW on daytime TV, what a joke.

    That show was a joke. Just like they do on Fox News. They fill a panel with 5 crazy right wing lunatics and one moderate democrat. Then they all bash the moderate Democrat leaving you bombarded with the FASCIST viewpoint.

    GO BARRY!

  • i say we all need a revolution. all go on strike. ask them this, would you rather live with a pot smoker or a rapest? a theif or a murderer?

  • First of all, Barry explains clearly its better to let someone off smoking pot, rather than throw them in jail. disagree?...they do. When he mentions that there are bad cops and some are basically addicted to to busting people, they say he said its all cops. fuck off. When Barry says we were born with the protection from unreasonable searches and seizures, they hate on it! Juliet says "DOES THAT HAPPEN OFTEN?" Lets go bust into her mansion NOW. This is REDICULOUS. You rule Barry

  • Judge Alex is terrific and cleves issues cleanly. Except for his using the term 'Gypt' (ethnic slur to Gypsies...) he champions anti-discrimination and hateful wrongs. Both of these guys are good men.

  • Berry was right and the world will know the truth about weed and cops.

  • generated by the government- intimidating many people into never making choices for themselves. The facts about the drug are now clear, and I believe more people need to become more (truthfully) informed on this practically harmless and useful drug

  • It makes me laugh, how obviously defeated the government is on the subject of the war on drugs. If you watch Barry's discussions you will notice the anti marijuana supporters need to shout over him (and there is usually more than one of them against only him) to drown him out. It is sad to see so many people who have had scare tactics on marijuana and failed policies bashed into their heads. Many people who are against marijuana haven't even tried it- probably as a result of scare tactics

  • Barry is the new Rosa??... Sure I'll go for that!

  • 1:05-1:20

    I like how they prolonged the statement...

    "He even knows all the cops inside tricks, and exactly how to act if you are arrested."

    Then it goes to him saying, Barry

    "Close your mouth"

    then they say

    "He should"

  • I dont want to listen to the other Guy :P Barry RuLeZ !

  • Barry is the man for sure.... Just like some one posted earlier, President obama,bush, and cliton have smoke weed, so should they go to jail ??? O and the reason people in the audience are clapping at the judge is cuzz there scared to be themselves, what if one guy stood up and was cheering for barry, then everyone would classify him as a stoner loser who needs to go to jail, LEGALIZE IT

  • "but it's illegal...and my counter-opinion is really tuned only to the palatable notions of this culture. my logic, though sound, is not cogent, but I do not have to worry about that because I have inherited my opinions in the same fashion as the rest of this majority culture...and by becoming a proud enforcer of this reigning paradigm, I not only help to self-justify it-- despite other more enlightened perspectives-- I get to become a mouth piece for this stagnant and fortified ignorance."

  • Alex is a great example of gov. propaganda...the gov. knows damn well marijuana isn't harmful to your health. The reason they won't leagilize it is because they want all their tax money from it...they'll tax the fck out of it and then people will just grow their own, which isn't hard to do, or learn. It's a damn shame. Oh well, smoke on!

  • They can still tax the seeds, and I heard if california legalizes it an ounce will only be 50 bucks. Plus most of the people I know wouldn't bother growing it, it's time consuming.

  • I live in long bean CA and thats definitely not true man...maybe an ounce of tobacco for $50. Tax me for weed everytime vs. taxing me once for some seeds that I grow into an empire...

    well, enjoy paying your taxes everytime.. hopefully soon-Legalize it!

  • an ounce of tobacco for $50 is a fucking joke. Do you know how much I pay for roughly an ounce of rolling tobacco? 5 or 6 bucks, more or less (depending on the brand, etc and i live in italy, so you gotta consider the exchange rate.). Now this is just my opinion, but if legal, weed really ought to be at a similar rate to tobacco. Would you pay even $10 for a pack of cigarettes? Maybe, but that's fucking insane. Same for pot if it was legal.... so LEGALIZE IT.

  • Barry speaks the truth truth truth.

    ........and Nothing But.

  • fuck 5-0 with a syphilis ravaged dick, lets go Barry!

  • Judge Alex is a major douchebag!

  • I do NOT smoke pot however the fact that it is illegal is crazy!!!!

    800,000 people a year go to prison for pot!

    This is crazy and expensive!!

    Clinton, Bush and Obama have all addmited to have smoked pot at one time!!

  • GO BARRY!!!!  There are F^%cking terrified....

  • Why was the audience applauding for what was saying alex the judge??? I cant believe that we live in such a stupid society, they applaude the most sensational argument but not the most rationnal and logical one! Thats why i hate most of humans its because they are so fucking brained washed and irrational

  • no judge or cop wants to hear legalize drugs, this is their bread and butter and they know it. they all agree, keep saying "its illiegal" so,it shouldnt be,thats what Copper is saying, slaveery , women voting, hanging blacks was ok now laws changed, so why cant drug laws change, their way to over done and punishable, weed and heroin[opiates] were made illiegal in 1938 because they caused white women to sleep with blacks and asians,thats why drugs are illiegal, look it up ! we have a black prez!

  • Fucking moron!

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  • To bad Obama's already said that he's not interested in legalizing it. It's sad but true. On his website it became the number one question that people wanted answered and the administration stated that Obama had no plan or interest to do so. Probably cause the government makes more money on busting people then they think they could taxing it, which is probably false and could make a lot more taxing it.

  • fuk u psb004

  • damn the same comment on a bunch of stuff. you are coopers biggest fan. you fuel his fire and thats hilarious. love the entertainment cooper, your the shit!!

  • Deaths per year resulting from alcohol: 100,000

    · Deaths per year resulting from tobacco: 430,000

    · Deaths per year resulting from aspirin: 180- 1000

    · Deaths per year resulting from legal drugs: 106,000

    · Deaths that have ever occurred in direct result of Cannabis: 0 (that's right zero)

    let us smoke WEED!!

  • man how dare they call pot smokers criminals. that shit makes me just wanna slaughter them and go mid-evil on there asss

  • barry barry barry

  • Barry Cooper is my Hero!

  • barry owns.. people need to listen to what he says.. he is a freedom fighter!@#

  • BARRY WINS

  • Marijuana "USERS" they make it sound like pot smokers are junkies or something! Marijuana doesn't kill people, guns don't kill people, people kill people!

  • Sorry Juliet i'm not a criminal, i'm a bud smoker.

  • What a bunch of bullshit.

    Give em shit Barry.

  • 3:47 Will she just let him respond already? Christ...

  • i agree bitch needs to be put in her place

  • A cop at 19?! WTF... You gotta be 21 as far as I know.

  • that video three with the experiment sounds hilarious, nonetheless, itll show exactly the blatant differences between belligerent drunks and happy tokers

  • I never realized it before.but that Juliet, is a real Bitch.

    and judge Alix is a dick!

    the bottom line is, pot wont make you get into a fight, grab a gun and shoot your wife, or a guy who looks twice at your girl friend.

  • That's right , truth spoken ..Not only will it not drive someone to shoot their wife , but all forms of domestic violence are prevented by the Herb .

  • Did you see how high strung and enraged that steroid monster judge Alex became? The veins were popping out of his forehead like he was about to turn into the Hulk or something while Barry sat there laughing and smiling (as advocates for pot smokers are)...Then of course, in typical fox news style, they ganged up 3 neonazi conservatives aginst Barry and he kept cool while they shot insults and questions in rapid fire mode. Nice job Barrry. Peace to you.

  • its insane to think cops wont watch his videos to help in searches:

    I hear this logic alot, however the point is that it is inconvenient for them! If you consent to the search, the theory is they will check basic spots and not rip things apart (that is the impression i am under)

  • American are so brainwashed on pot i'm talking probably about the 40 years old and over. Same people that lived in the peace and love years on lsd and ice....freakin hypocrits.

    USA is the reason why pot is not legal in Canada.

  • The central driving force of all protest and civil disobedience is love--love of freedom in a free country!

  • shut up u fucking blond bimbo!

  • barry!!!!!! wooo

    u should have slaped the fucked out of him

  • BARRY! BARRY! BARRY!

  • Barry owned them all. I like that when ever Barry gets an interview, they put 3-8 people up against him to debate and he still always comes out on top.