LOL at the guy who said the guard pass at 1:06 would never work, ha, I have passed black belts guard with this pass. The dummy looks very cool, but the music is horrible.
So in short good luck to i & i sports selling the bubba dummy because it seem they dont have the best dummy and in my experience they dont have the best service either they cant ship internationally so I offered that they could send it to my bongo international address they didnt even look at bongo site they just said that my address didnt pass the fraud screen, would have taken like 10 minutes or a call from them to bongo but they didnt now they have one less client. I`ll get a SMaster
but im kind of cool now that i found the submission master at the end of the day i chosen bubba first choice because apparently it could stand for throws but now im watching videos and thats not really the case and you have to attach belts etc to keep his limbs in place so i think the submission master is better on the ground and i will just get another dummy just for throws and thai clinch like those stiff heavy bags looking like kind of human shape lol
I made an order to get a bubba but after few weeks of waiting they said I cant get one because my order didnt pass the fraud screening as if I where a terrorist or something can you believe that crap?!!!!! lol
I felt i was trying to do something really bad wich is not the case just wanna practice my jiujitsu
@dongsdongsdongs It's a jazz fusion band I played with back in the 80's called Cat's A Bear. Frank Singer is on guitar & my brother Joe Dorris on drums.
Generally, you may want a heavy weight if you're using a throwing dummy (for conditioning purposes).
But, for a submission grappling dummy, you want a lighter weight to make it easier to move it between the positions you want to train. Because you're not throwing, a heavier weight adds on benefit and only makes it more difficult to work with.
The Adult model weighs approx. 75 pounds. We've found that to be the best weight for most people.
It's actually a common tactic. It is specific for using on an opponent who has long pants. When you control the legs with his knees (and your elbows) close together, the opponent can't kick and has limited motion.
What you do is push the legs to either side a couple times, so the opponent thinks you are going around his legs, then push them down and go over them.
I've used it dozens of times effectively against pretty good opponents. Try it out!
I'm gonna be starting MMA training in about a month, and this looks like it would be an awesome training aid, but for 500 bucks, I think I'd wanna try one before I decided to buy one.
i am making my own and it is still gonna cost me about $100. I can see the high quality of this product but I can't see the high cost. If this puppy was $100-maybe $200 I could see investing in it. a dummy is a great idea but man having the extra cash these days to buy stuff other than food is tough. drop the price and you WILL get more business.
Producing a quality dummy is very labor intensive, as you will find out when making yours. Lowering the price may get more business, but it would no longer be viable to produce.
i've had mine for about 3 weeks and i really like it so far. he's not bullsh*tting when he says the legs start out tight...i still can even get into my dummy's guard yet. regardless, it's worth the money for side-mount traing alone...it's perfect for all those techniques. i basically set my mat out at night, and work on the dummy for 30 minutes...then leave the mats, so that they're there in the morning for another 30 minutes. then i put him up til later in the evening.
Nice, I have this exact dummy. I picked it up from Erik Paulson's web site a good while back. It doesnt replace a training partner but works great for drilling and working techniques into muscle memory.
Only complaint is I wish it would stand up so I could practice my Judo throws on it.
cool what do u think is better the ones with the arms or the ones that are a cylinder and are not shaped like a human. I want to know which is better for training
The Submission Master keeps his legs at 90 degrees at the hips. This makes him great for submissions and guard work, but not appropriate for takedowns.
Typically, submission dummies don't work well for throwing and throwing dummies aren't good for submission work.
Currently the Submission Master only comes in one size. In case you haven't worked with a grappling dummy before, the dead weight feels much heavier than you would think, and we have found this to be the optimal weight for most people.
I have a grappling dummy but from another company. I think the best way to look at using a dummy is as an addition to live training, not instead of it. Plus, you can drill endlessly with it.
Many defensive and escape tactics can be trained with the Submission Master.
You should be able to get a good idea of it's functionality by watching the 2 discussion videos about the Submission Master(by clicking on the "More Video's From: bobdorris.")
The Submission Master is covered w/ Cordura, a material known for durability and resistance to scuffing. He is machine sewn and tears to the seams are rare.
If you call Dorris Health & Fitness (954-478-3685), we can give you excellent tips to prevent the joints from loosening. The dummy in the video had been used for 9 months.
There's 2 discussion videos about the Submission Master you can watch by clicking on the "More Video's From: bobdorris" link to the right on your youtube screen.
All the information is at the Submission Master website. The information is in the "About the video..." in the right hand corner of your youtube screen.
We use a shipper that compares prices to find the least expensive shipper.
bobdorris 2 months ago
Can you ship it DHL when sending it to uk?
IMnotSAS 3 months ago
LOL at the guy who said the guard pass at 1:06 would never work, ha, I have passed black belts guard with this pass. The dummy looks very cool, but the music is horrible.
Lulingmma 4 months ago
So in short good luck to i & i sports selling the bubba dummy because it seem they dont have the best dummy and in my experience they dont have the best service either they cant ship internationally so I offered that they could send it to my bongo international address they didnt even look at bongo site they just said that my address didnt pass the fraud screen, would have taken like 10 minutes or a call from them to bongo but they didnt now they have one less client. I`ll get a SMaster
abscrete 7 months ago
but im kind of cool now that i found the submission master at the end of the day i chosen bubba first choice because apparently it could stand for throws but now im watching videos and thats not really the case and you have to attach belts etc to keep his limbs in place so i think the submission master is better on the ground and i will just get another dummy just for throws and thai clinch like those stiff heavy bags looking like kind of human shape lol
abscrete 7 months ago
I made an order to get a bubba but after few weeks of waiting they said I cant get one because my order didnt pass the fraud screening as if I where a terrorist or something can you believe that crap?!!!!! lol
I felt i was trying to do something really bad wich is not the case just wanna practice my jiujitsu
abscrete 7 months ago
Mine just came in today. Can't wait to get him broken in.
dmorley100 10 months ago
Finally got some money, and I'm gonna be placin my order for one tomorrow. So psyched!!!!
dmorley100 10 months ago
this music owns. what is it?
dongsdongsdongs 10 months ago
@dongsdongsdongs It's a jazz fusion band I played with back in the 80's called Cat's A Bear. Frank Singer is on guitar & my brother Joe Dorris on drums.
bobdorris 2 months ago
The best training dummy on the market hands down it's awesome!
bayareasrick 1 year ago
This dummy MUST be good cause I couldn't even anybody wantin to sell one on eBay.
dmorley100 1 year ago
What is the heaviest grappling dummy I can buy?
PrsFenderJackson1980 1 year ago
Hi PrsFenderJackson1980,
Generally, you may want a heavy weight if you're using a throwing dummy (for conditioning purposes).
But, for a submission grappling dummy, you want a lighter weight to make it easier to move it between the positions you want to train. Because you're not throwing, a heavier weight adds on benefit and only makes it more difficult to work with.
The Adult model weighs approx. 75 pounds. We've found that to be the best weight for most people.
bobdorris 1 year ago
1:06 would never work! ever!
Rikaiden 1 year ago 2
Hi Rikaiden,
It's actually a common tactic. It is specific for using on an opponent who has long pants. When you control the legs with his knees (and your elbows) close together, the opponent can't kick and has limited motion.
What you do is push the legs to either side a couple times, so the opponent thinks you are going around his legs, then push them down and go over them.
I've used it dozens of times effectively against pretty good opponents. Try it out!
bobdorris 1 year ago 5
@Rikaiden that move does work specially on white belts
RyanMinaker 1 year ago
@Rikaiden I have used this technique and it worked very well!!!!!!
yoursola 2 months ago
how heavy are these dummies? and can they be in a standing position? thanks
kaiwingwong 1 year ago
I have to agree with everyone. This looks great and I would love to get one but $500 is too much for me :-(
poisonr 1 year ago
I'm gonna be starting MMA training in about a month, and this looks like it would be an awesome training aid, but for 500 bucks, I think I'd wanna try one before I decided to buy one.
dmorley100 2 years ago
so if i wanna practice ground fighting and learn it by practicing with a dummy incase i need a partner?
Alan4017 2 years ago
ya thats what i do...
crazylizardguts 2 years ago
i am making my own and it is still gonna cost me about $100. I can see the high quality of this product but I can't see the high cost. If this puppy was $100-maybe $200 I could see investing in it. a dummy is a great idea but man having the extra cash these days to buy stuff other than food is tough. drop the price and you WILL get more business.
newforce3 2 years ago
Thanks for your input!
Producing a quality dummy is very labor intensive, as you will find out when making yours. Lowering the price may get more business, but it would no longer be viable to produce.
bobdorris 2 years ago
i've had mine for about 3 weeks and i really like it so far. he's not bullsh*tting when he says the legs start out tight...i still can even get into my dummy's guard yet. regardless, it's worth the money for side-mount traing alone...it's perfect for all those techniques. i basically set my mat out at night, and work on the dummy for 30 minutes...then leave the mats, so that they're there in the morning for another 30 minutes. then i put him up til later in the evening.
1badwhitey 2 years ago
is good for reability after injury and fisic problems.
artesuave 2 years ago
how is the weight of it. Good enough for conditioning?
xxxsssxxxsss 2 years ago
stop posting...I want one, it's just too expensive... Anyone want to sell a used one ;-)
Tanlosdad 2 years ago 4
I use my little brother as my grappling dummy lol no this looks awesome i definitely want to get one.
mick0093 2 years ago 2
that thing is so fucking creepie but awesome
gimlo 2 years ago 19
that is hilarious--in a really cool kind of way! nice vid and great tool to have if you can afford it.
wigginbean 2 years ago
mine just put me into an armbar would recommend ++
EfCheese 2 years ago 5
that might be useful, i never have a training partner when i need one
WarriorBlackBanner 2 years ago
i know qhat u mean follow warrior
ThaRealistWarrior 2 years ago
its almost fucking 500 dollers damn is it really worth it are they dependeble this would be great for a gym to buy
Sm0KeNHaZe 2 years ago
Wow... what a great training device. And the techniques this guy is using practicing on the dummy are great too.
cwjazz43 2 years ago
Awesome. Much better than the scarecrow I used to trian with lol.
I defo getting one of these
Inter1ude 2 years ago 2
Nice, I have this exact dummy. I picked it up from Erik Paulson's web site a good while back. It doesnt replace a training partner but works great for drilling and working techniques into muscle memory.
Only complaint is I wish it would stand up so I could practice my Judo throws on it.
RustyNinja 2 years ago 4
You can just get a regular upright standing dummy too.
SakoYo 2 years ago 4
wish i could afford one.
berserkr81 3 years ago 2
i need to get me one of those what do they cost?
bjjfighter92 3 years ago
just under 500 bucks bro
mizdierbeatz 3 years ago
Wow, it even has a decent guard! :)
I bet it could triangle some of my non-jitz friends. xD
Hotora86 3 years ago
thanks, I have a few training mannequins that I use and they are great your's looks really good. Thanks for posting.
ShinobiMystic 3 years ago
If your training submissions, you must have one with arms and legs.
If your just doing striking, the cylinder shaped dummies are o.k.
bobdorris 3 years ago
cool what do u think is better the ones with the arms or the ones that are a cylinder and are not shaped like a human. I want to know which is better for training
xXAssailantXx111 3 years ago
Man..what a great way to drill down techniques and get that muscle memory going...5 large is bank though!!!
liquiddna 3 years ago
5 large means 5000. this dummy is 500. not 5000
turmat01 3 years ago
Looks good mate, But that music makes me feel sick? Anyway will look into this as it looks fantastic.
MarkNienaber 3 years ago 2
Very interesting!
axisjiujitsu 3 years ago
Grat product. Very thoughtful design!
jodypresti 3 years ago
I love this this thing,it helps me a great deal.
dontaeVega 3 years ago
Cool. Nothing beats a live, resisting opponent, but it would be nice to get reps in when I have down time. I'm going to make one of those.
balletman 3 years ago 2
Moooooommmmm... I want one!
philosopher2king 3 years ago
about how long does it take to break in?
nchmout 3 years ago
That depends on how much time you spend working with him. Most people properly break him in within the first week.
Recent subtle modifications, including adding 6" to leg length, have made the break-in period shorter.
bobdorris 3 years ago
thanks
nchmout 3 years ago
Great one but cost a lot of money. I life in germany. Price + shipping/handling + 18% tax (fucking government!) to the TOTAL ammount.
But it can realy improve your skill. Get some Gracie training DVD and have a nice saturday night with your doll ;)
PriusRider 3 years ago
@PriusRider Damn, I feel bad for you bro.
dmorley100 2 years ago
I am trying to decide on whether to buy Bubba II, or Submission Master.
Besides the obvious difference of the limbs being bent, anyone have any thoughts ?
cburcinc 3 years ago
how would i be able to get a hold of one in the uk.
sbm2000 3 years ago
The Submission Master keeps his legs at 90 degrees at the hips. This makes him great for submissions and guard work, but not appropriate for takedowns.
Typically, submission dummies don't work well for throwing and throwing dummies aren't good for submission work.
bobdorris 4 years ago
Any way to purchase them heavier
cnorman07 4 years ago
Currently the Submission Master only comes in one size. In case you haven't worked with a grappling dummy before, the dead weight feels much heavier than you would think, and we have found this to be the optimal weight for most people.
bobdorris 4 years ago
what's the weight on the dummy?
dekayx53 4 years ago
The Submission Master weighs approximately 75 to 80 lbs.
bobdorris 4 years ago
i want one but too expensive $485 for a dummy i rather use my brother.
jashloser 4 years ago 36
Where can i get a grappling dummy from
phonemarket2 4 years ago
The information on purchasing one is listed in the "About the video" section in the right hand corner of your screen.
bobdorris 4 years ago
I have a grappling dummy but from another company. I think the best way to look at using a dummy is as an addition to live training, not instead of it. Plus, you can drill endlessly with it.
kevincs31 4 years ago
Can you hold the chokes, armbars, and etc. with full force as long as you like without worrying about ripping the dummy? Thanks.
Wanderer411 4 years ago
Most people train full force with the Submission Master. The material itself would be very difficult to rip, and tears to the seams are rare.
bobdorris 4 years ago
I should be more elaborate on that question. For example, can you have the dummy put you in an arm bar and you work on escaping?
Wanderer411 4 years ago
Many defensive and escape tactics can be trained with the Submission Master.
You should be able to get a good idea of it's functionality by watching the 2 discussion videos about the Submission Master(by clicking on the "More Video's From: bobdorris.")
bobdorris 4 years ago
Can you work on escapes with this dummy? If yes, then can you post a video demonstration? Thanks.
Wanderer411 4 years ago
The Submission Master is covered w/ Cordura, a material known for durability and resistance to scuffing. He is machine sewn and tears to the seams are rare.
If you call Dorris Health & Fitness (954-478-3685), we can give you excellent tips to prevent the joints from loosening. The dummy in the video had been used for 9 months.
There's 2 discussion videos about the Submission Master you can watch by clicking on the "More Video's From: bobdorris" link to the right on your youtube screen.
bobdorris 4 years ago
does anybody know where or what site i can get one from?
Degenerate999 4 years ago
The contact and purchase information is in the "About the video..." in the right hand corner of the youtube screen.
bobdorris 4 years ago
Looks very nice. What kind of warranty do you offer?
4resg77 4 years ago
All the information is at the Submission Master website. The information is in the "About the video..." in the right hand corner of your youtube screen.
bobdorris 4 years ago
Very good, but dummy dont hit back :) lol
basedeal 4 years ago 2
the video was very impressive. in fact, i am thinking of buying one tomorrow so i can get lots of reps and not get injured
jiujitsusuperstud 4 years ago