Low Fuel Emergency AA Flt 489

[magickayson]

I'm landing at 17C whatever. Clear that runway!!!

[robertl30]

In fact the captain _was_ allowed to land on 17C. By declaring an emergency he gets to decide where he's landing. He's covered legally. He should've told the tower "Unable. We're landing 17C, clear the runway."

[Sudsak]

If you're having an emergency, you don't *ask*, you *tell* them what you are going to do.

[springfeild45]

As Pilot In Command of an aircraft declaring an emergency is something that should not be taken lightly however, when an emergency is declared that aircraft has all priority over any and all traffic, I dont give a shit if Air Force One is trying to land you DO NOT tell the aircraft they cant land on the runway they need. You may as well be condemning them do death. The air traffic controller and the FAA supervisor are not suitable for their jobs and dont deserve to keep them!

[geser179]

who do you believe the ATC of the FAA supervisor. My money is on the ATC.

[DoyleMCR]

The captain is the one responsible for the aircraft and all souls on board at the end of the day, once a Mayday has been declared, safety overtakes commercial activity and gain. The captain should of been allowed to land where he so wished, he knows best, right!?

[FlyingPhoAddict]

I'd have told that cocky asswipe to clear the runway ASAP. YOU DON'T LET ATC FLY YOUR DAMN PLANE!!!!!!!

[RainbowManification]

That approach controller put lives at risk, I hope he was fired.

[RealPilotFSX]

if you declare an emergency, YOU ARE THE BOSS. you can do whatever you want. It's outrageous that he was denied the runway he wanted.

i also love the news bitch in red blowing shit out her ass as if she knows anything about aviation

[Quartz482]

if i lost my family in such a scenario i will say i will find the person responsible and

kill him and then turn myself in gladly go to the electric chair. there would be nothing to live

for then and death would be merciful...im just saying.

[01261988733]

I would fire that fucking controller 

[KatsToy]

Never heard of anything like this in my life!! You do anything he needs during an emergency!

[destroyOCTS]

I would've paid both that controller and the FAA super a visit later...

[lekoman]

I'm not a pilot, so take this for whatever it's worth, but man... if I had been, I would've wanted a damn good reason why 17C wasn't available before I'd have gone around like that. Best move the take-off queue out of the way quick-like, I'm inbound...

[msvisio]

158 people on board VS attitude!

[TomCook1993]

I would have told ATC to go ***k themselves. Here I come ready or not.

[JWY]

If the requested runway is unsafe, say it is bocked by parked cold unmanned heavy excavation equipment, then yes the controller should refuse - with the reason given. In the reported case here the controller, and this FAA supervisor mentioned as involved, clearly need retraining and reassignment to far less active locations.

[MrTopjimmy67]

The super should be fired.

[jfsa380]

According to FAR part 91.3 (a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft (b) In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule in this part to the extent required to meet that emergency. and so on and so on Short version: legally and in practice, the PIC can deviate from any and all instructions for the safety of the aircraft in an emergency,

[suzyrain2000us]

wtf fire these guys

[cptdd]

Scary

[ColtDeltaElite10mm]

All the pilot had to do was tell ATC ( not ask), but TELL him " fuck you, get everyone off the tracks ' cause the train is comming in. IM LANDING ON 17C.".

End of story.

[mharrop396]

atc said he could land at a closer airport...then he said ok to 31...am I wrong?...

[akonaito1]

Some guy in a suit says no and you die! I suggest FIRE that guy off that job

[TERYDOTCOM]

good god almighty! what the hell was wrong with the tower? the pilot of t he 757 is pilot in command of HIS airplane... he is only accepting guidance from the controller and the tower really "controls" nothing.. as 19truth53 said, "drive straight in and put it on any runway..."

[koochy79]

Typical bullshit with the idiots at the FAA and ATC...one fingering the other...no surprise!

[gilz16]

14 CFR 91.3(b) I would have gone for 17 and that controller is an asshole!

[jmr604]

Stupid fucking controller.

[19Truth53]

As a commercial pilot I can tell you that if you declare an emergency YOU tell EVERYONE what YOU are going to do. END OF STORY!

[jmr604]

That's right.

[Airlineguy427]

@19Truth53 Roger that!!

[jfsa380]

@19Truth53 Precisely

[gfimadcat]

@19Truth53 pilot should've just stated again he's declaring an emergency, is taking 17 center, and gone NORDO. They would've cleared out airspace for him. Might've cost him his wings in the end but better to be known as the guy that saved his passengers than to be known as the guy who crashed and burned.

[paladinee]

@gfimadcat

Wouldnt have burned, no fuel :P

[mgee63]

Flying is safe except for the people in the cockpit and the air traffic controllers...wait...the two most important factors in flight safety, flight crew and ATC, are lacking....unacceptable!

[sirlordwhitman]

thank god the plane made it safely..

I was starting to get depressed watching all those 'seconds from disaster' clips!