And furthermore the term nwo has to be the most empty statement I've ever and frankly all of this nwo stuff and the zeitgeist movement is a conspiracy all of it is just fucking stupid it's really fucking stupid
Even if the stuff they talk to us about is propaganda, the message that is spread by them is something that cant be stopped, stop putting labels on things, everybody living side by side, we do have the technology to do that and free people from shitty jobs and depressing lives, dont look at the people, read the message.
Christian fear mongering designed to keep flock in check. Zeitgeist stands for freedom and equality, maybe that's why religious bigots have a problem with it.
Film is aimed at any would be questioning Christians to scare them and subdue them in to the continuation of the ignorance they are forced to endure or face going to hell and burning. All you have done is try to discredit any of the sources which clearly and with great reason did not believe in god. By scaring the viewers and linking the sources to something satanic which all Christians are brainwashed in fearing so gravely. your hoping that if you say Lucifer enough times it will scare them
Occult means hidden. Lucifer as the devil or satan is never mention throughout the Bible! If you think so, gladly refer to "the fallen angel" story so cleverly taught. The problem with today's christianity or churchianity is that no one is taught the science or the archetypal and symbolic language on which many of the Biblical concepts are constructed. It's like trying to speak english without vowels... ends up being babel. Occult practices are likewise just as blinded - being devoid of Christ!
You are so pathetic you NEVER once tell your brainwashed uneducated supporters that the ancient Hebrew langauge NEVER had "J" letter consonants, therefore biblical words like Jesus, Jew, Jehovah, Jerusalem, etc... are NOT even Hebrew. Not to mention the vowels have to be taken out too because Hebrew had no vowels as we know them, nor any J consonants. How does it make you feel to keep lieing and brainwashing the masses of uneducated flocks of mind controlled "sheep" ????
Thank you so much for posting these videos! I see now how they are trying to confuse everyone! Doesn't matter if you're an Illuminati, or anti-Illuminati, you are all a part of the grand plan to bring about the NWO. NWO = The Communist world in which humans worship Satan. What chilling times we are all living in! I do not wish this type of future on anyone.
The existence of god can allways be discussed, but u can force anyone to belive or not to. So that subject is retarded to pick up, even in a youtube forum.
Do you even know what the venus project and the zeitgeist movement is?
It is a bunch of people sharing ideas, thoughts and knowledge on how to make the world a better place.
At least they have idea on how to solve poverty, war, polution ect. world problems.
Look at society today, nothing but problems we cant go on like this.
Your quite right again, when listening to these people you must always keep an open mind as to their true intentions.
I dont think people quite yet understand as to why "they" are allowing us to comprehend their symbolism/agenda - thats all that seems to be peddled these days on the "conspiracy circuit".
Its akin to slowly being allowed to open ones eyes, but only being allowed to see what they let you see... part and partial of creating/manipulating the collective future.
The promoter that started the Red Sox baseball team was inspired by a man who once sat on a bus next to a man who knew the author of a book on the occult that contained a satanic symbol on page 114, so the satanic Red Sox color Red is satans halmark color and if you add the letters in "red sox" you get 6 letters but since red is 3 letters you put 6 three times in a row and you get 666.
Where Im from utopian means idealistic and impractical to put in practice
Its unlikely people will embrace the idea just by watching a video, cause unlike the Worgl experiment in Austria which was almost setup overnight, ressource based economy requires a complete overhaul of our present mess, a collosal endeavor, so imo it requires a lot of thinking to digest and fully evaluate. Thats why I think people should not reject the idea offhand. So far imo theres a lot more good about it than bad
You know what? Instead of complaining about other peoples solutions to the BS society that we live in, why not try to find solutions for yourself, and actually give something tangable to your society instead of just trying to debunk others ideas. You probably aren't capable of original thought, and this is why you feel the need to inject false logic into something that is clearly over your head. If you educated on the subject of debate you would know better than to rant without proper reaseach.
@ILLUM1NATUS okay. Get out of fake investments! Put them into real stuff (assets, silver, gold, skills) Decentralize! Crash the Federal Reserve. Clean house in congress. "Aldous Huxley Interview" look it up and educate yourself!
@beebop46n2 Thats also what the Catholic church is promoting "Get out of fake investments! Put them into real stuff (assets, silver, gold, skills)".
@ILLUM1NATUS First of all, before you get all high and mighty on us, use spellcheck. You are clearly not capable of original thought and that is why you can't see or understand why capitalism is a failed system. Not to mention the solution is proposed, you just can't grasp it. If you educated yourself on economics, history and behavioral psychology, you would know that the free market system was built entirely on failed theories. Illuminatus, my ass.
@ILLUM1NATUS zeitheads want you to be quiet about their flawed system, just ask a zeithead what the downside to their system is and they cant tell you, it must be utopia then. lmao
@ILLUM1NATUS actually, if you did YOUR proper research then you should see quite clearly that the agenda of the NWO and the talking points of this propaganda film are one and the same. taking all the obvious illuminati/masonic symbolism out of the argument it stands as a propaganda piece for the NWO. when you take into account the symbolism it becomes even more blatant. the foundation of their deception is in telling half-truths to gain our trust. 95% truth to get us to demand their agenda. duh.
@ILLUM1NATUS How is following up Zeitgeist sources and showing that the Author's of those sources did not back up what Zeitgeist's claim or actually make the quotes false logic. Little research is required to show someone is using a false source and that is all these videos are really doing .... i.e. This is the cited source, the cited source never actually said this. Pretty simple to debunk Zeitgeist propaganda.
Zeitgeist is full of false propaganda. It is not science. It is not theory. It is religion. Simple false accusations so easy to adapt. Like the yellow press.
Well reject the lies and stay righteous! They promote theosophy because its moral is totally depleted. Haven't you heard what Blavatzki says? She rises Lucifer above God, as NWO elites! And what will that result in? Do you see? That results in war, greed, moral degradation, hunger, poverty, lies! Look at the world! It would be much better, but people like to 'do what they wont' in spite of morality and God.
And I assume you have your own solutions and proof to the problems in our society? Zeitgeist Addendum uses very clear sources, like Merva-Fowles, Feral Children, etc. to make their points understood. Their idea's are tangible. But go ahead, enlighten me.
i really don't understand people. Do you even know the meaning of propaganda? Zeitgeist is simply there to make ignorant people realize what is really going on, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that the world we live in is horribly corrupt and that the human race is killing itself much more than doing any good. It proposes a solution that would benefit every single human being on this planet, and you deny it? I hope one day you wake up.
@Kinglaid If Zeitgeist is there to make ignorant people know what's going on why do they create and spread false histories? Are you claiming that The Egyptian Museum of History is false, The smithsonian is false, and Zeitgeist's are correct regarding Egyptian Mythology? That would be one hech of a conspiracy, sorry I dont buy it.
I dont think its wise to embrace nor to reject everything in Zeitgeist Addendum
I agree with a lot of whats said about the problems of our system, in a sense I am in favor of a new world order or is it the 2nd world order?(insert sinister music), Ive been brainwashed arghh.
But the solution proposed is utopian, and risks being crushed by the present hierachy or being highjacked the same way Stalin took over communism turning it upside down(bottom-up workers voting, into top-down dictator)
The solution is not utopian. You create that argument based on the computer generated depictions in the movie. They even state that there is no such thing as utopia, except religious people call it heaven. They should have kept those depictions out of the movie. What ever happened to dying for a cause? I fear not death, for it aleviates the pains of this world. -Andrew Wright
the old testament was written before jesus lived, in hebrew and aramaic. not by pastors after jesus death. you people who make such outlandish claims are the ones who are ignorant. for all of you athiests, claiming the bile is a fake, or a plagerism, or whatever. you always hated christians to begin with, zeitgeis is just a movie that gave you blind god hating sheep, baseless amuntion to shoot at christians who are equally as uneducated as you.
Once you can come up with any proof that a god ever existed and that any, ANY religion is true, then i'll beleive you. Until the day you can come up with evidence, TRUE evidence that religions are more than man-made, once you can come up with a better explanation of human evoltuion and once you can explain to me with proof that there is no other life forms in the billions and billions of planets out there, then i'll believe you. Until then, continue to believe in a god that does nothing for you.
There's a huge distortion of the truth in this video, find out what it is after watching both my playlists and you'll understand what they are trying to make you believe.
I am compiling a playlist of the highest quality (accurate information) clips I found concerning the Great Concpiracy everybody is talking about. Those who are interested can have a look at my page. It currently contains 2 playlists with various information and historical data including the complete interview (I think it's complete) with John Todd, an ex-illuminati. It's best to start with video 1.
Remember that some of the clips contain sneaky misdirections concealed within the truth.
I already told you people. God CAN'T manifest himself to man bc of the fall from Grace (1st earth age). what would be the point of God giving man a choice to chose between accepting jesus or not, if he would just come down and say, "Hello". Again, God speaks to man through prophecy. Have you ever read Daniel? Anyway, it's your free-will to belive in God or not. No-one is twisting your arm.
Rockhard: Have you EVER seeked the truth, rather than use no knowledge to base an opinion? Why hasn't God revealed himself? He has, look at Biblical prophecy, look at Jesus' resurrection. I can go on. But if you want to open your, and if you consider yourself to be an intelligent person. Visit Hal Lindsey's and Jack Van Impe's web-site, and watch their videos, and how they tie current events to Biblical prophecy (God' way of materializing himself to man). God bless you, bro. & SEEK Jesus
Another gripe I have with zeitgeist is that it make complete fabrications in the first movie and completely denies the existence of human nature, when an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence providences support for both the "Nature" and "Nurture" sides of human behavioral development.
It's very interesting to note that any suggestion of change no matter how well its researched, is immediately "OF THE DEVIL" (quote from the water boy)The Venus Project makes no mention of a leader (Antichrist) And I never heard the Zeitgeist video make any reverence to bankers forming a "Death cult"
And if providing a possible solution to world hunger, ending war, and crime, and slavery is the plan of Lucifer. What kind of God are you worshiping.
Well i think by lacking of hard info refers to the links not working, then again it also may be that the book 1984 wrote in 1948 :P doesnt say anything that's in zeitgeist and that the presenter claims that in his research he found "nations will share resources" whereas in Z they do not recognize nations... I think that may be it.
not 1984, Brave New World by huxley. the fact is this ZA makes claims of the ultimate utopia that will end all suffering, but I never trust something from just one source. And today, like problems with religion, the truth movement, and zeitgeist, people are clinging to whatever answer they can as the solution to all of mankinds problems
It's also funny how a lot of these videos seem to be trying to lead people to christianity...
Have you seen some youtuber called saint augustus or w/e? A lot of fear mongering, about the devil etc. trying to push people into becoming born again christians etc. to get into their power establishment and control.
what power establishment control? we got heaven, we do not desire any power over you, or any kingdom other than that of the lord. you mock others attempt to lead you away from deception. time is running out. expect to hear alot more preaching. sorry but although your mind may be made up many others may still be saved
A lot of churches do desire more people to worship because those people bring along a lot of money which they must donate "for the lord" or they are controlled other ways. Such as by forbidding actions, otherwise the devil will get ya. They also have a lot of political control, and the bailouts lately show the benefits of having political control.
What about the ban on gay marriage, or lots of other things because they go against certain religions. A lot of atheists are affected 2.
saved by accepting jesus, striving to be like him, trying not to sin, honestly wanting forgiveness. you dont have to go to church for that, and you dont have to pay a penny. i dont think gay marriges should be banned, because church and state are seperate. but everyone will be judged. i think people should learn to abstrain from desires that go against god. straight people have vices too, premarital sex is a sin, all sins are equal, and can be forgiven, except for blasphemy of the holy spirit.
just to be clear, it never says anywhere in the bible that you have to give money "for the lord" it does say that you should tithe to your church, and thats because preachers are important to god and they need to eat too, yes there are too many preachers that take advantage of that and tell people that god will bless them if they send them money, these people will be judged and theyre going to regret it on the day of judgement.
Why do you accept the bible as truth? For all you know the preachers could have written it to control people, it could be as real as mickey mouse. History is full of Religion being used for abuse in the most malicious caliber. The inquisition, crusades, extortion for penance, destruction of: civil liberties, free thinking, science, etc.
Everyone thinks their god is real, and that their way is the best.
An invisible, undetectable god, should not expect faith.
the reason i have to accept the bible as a truth is because i had a personal truth revealed to me not very long ago, and i would be lying to myself if i did not accept the bible as truth. im sorry, but what your saying about god being invisble, and undetecable does not apply to me, i did however ignore this fact for a while but thats because i really did not want to be held accountable for my sins, as they are my nature and it is not easy to try to refrain from commiting sin at all.
and i think you are talking about papal rome, keep in mind i am a christian, i would have been put to death or imprisoned by the papacy if i had lived in those 1290 years that it was in power. god warns of papal rome and how it wold ry to change the laws of god, and blaspheme against god in the book of daniel. christanity is not responsible for the papacy, nor is god to be held accountable for the devils counterfeit christianity.
I'm sure all those being deceived right now would automatically become believers if "the lord" came down and proved to everyone that he was real. But as it is, why not believe in every fairy tale ever created? What are the limits of your naivety and gullibility?
if you really wanted to know the answer you would read the bible, it tells you why perfectly, but instead you are asking me question after question in an attempt to make me as lost as you. you are not asking because you are taking my answers into consideration. Psalms 14:1 & 53:1-2
I could say the same thing back to you and insert almost any science text, or I could go completely the other way and say you should read Crowley's magik book or the koran, or other spiritual/religious crap. Why is your book truth. You need to become more flexible and quit citing one book as the complete source of knowledge and truth. Try thinking for yourself, look around.
bible is not a book its a multittude of books over 25% of the book is prophecy. and it has been 100% accurate since now. but ofcourse u wouldnt check those things out because ur so against religion like u have been brainwashed by nwo jordan maxwell
notice how you will never here those preachers preach the verse "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
You guys need to really research the goals of the Zeitgeist movement. Zeitgeist confronts the cause of the elite and NWO rather then the elite directly. It attacks their source of power rather then them. We will always lose if we try to fight them. We must simply stop working within their system. If we can do this they will be powerless before they know what hit them.
Wow dood, sorry but I just couldn't pay attention to your video... .. Im sorry you lost so much time doing these videos... It's a shame you're such a sheep.
You have got to do better than these pathetic propaganda videos if you want to muddy the waters of truth and try to gain any ground back ... the fact is that the NWO is being exposed by extremely intelligent and knowledgeable people. And the message is resinating in the world. It is finally making sense how we are being manipulated and used.
Your films are clearly false and fail to reveal what they claim to be about. What they are about is confusion and distortion.
All of Zeitgeist's sources are from theosophical sources. Look it up, theosophy believes that Lucifer is the light. I am not christian, I dont believe in revelations, but this is what THEY believe. Their goal is to expose the NWO, and lead you to false solutions.
Plus, the Federal Reserve is NOT based on profit and free Market, but Zeitgeist wants you to believe that.
Plus, "eliminating the state" is a very old concept, so is relying on technology for everything
you do know you would be worshipping a lying deciever right? where would that get you? you expect the father of lies to finally tell the truth? can you say "backfire"?
come find me bitch lets meet at the mcdonald's on E putnam ave here in Greenwich Connecticut,u sad motherfucker, trying to be like michael jackson son u were born bean color don't try to be white,why? u ungrateful border jumper u talk shit about us and our great land if u and your faggot family munch off of it. suck my dick u dirty wetback, go back to your shit hole how fucked up that place is;did u know there's no more cocksuckers in mexico? yeah they're all over here now XDXDXD
mexicandiaz can lick aids having dick while his mom jerks him off into his daddy's herpes having mouth, lick the nasty part of the pope's gonorrhea having ass motherfucker may your kids die from colon cancer you piece of shit.
having trash like mexicandiaz around thumping his chest saying "i'm smarter than you i know names from the internet, i browse wikipedia"is counterproductive, if just one person listens and believes this turd, that's one less mind that's willing to look for any truth, my advice to all is finish school go to college get a master's degree, never stop learning,but do just dad learn don't get brain washed,learn what they say don't think what they do,keep on learning p.s. fuck mexicandiaz
we should not let people like mexicandiaz into the states, fanaticism(of the religious kind) is the most dangerous, advance thinking should spread like aids, not just my advance way, but yours too. Why should all be enlighten? because it advances science and the fine arts, the more people have advance education the least they commit crimes and turn to violence,advancing science and arts is our purpose here on earth we evolve and migrate to the next world and so on and on.
by the way mexicandiaz do you know where the particular Rhodes in Rhodes scholar comes from, your education did u get it at community college, you should read works by the following Christopher Wren, Joseph Addison, Bishop Sprat, Robert Hooke,Karl Löwith, Herbert Marcuse, Claude Levi-Strauss, Martin Buber, Edmund Husserl. Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault,just for starters ma boy, i hope you can read English well, these folk will teach you an assortment of ideals that you can not conjure up on ya own
like diaz says his momma was a mastodon, i bet the bitch is so fat she sweats canola oil. You have to be pretty stupid not to see past all this shit. The bible,war and peace,the Torah,Canterbury tales,100 years of solitude, all this books have something in common, they were written by men, not gods. There is no invisible man in the sky that's just a tale to keep you in line like the boogie man, now this spic(oreo cookie) mexicandiaz says he's a Rhodes scholar, but he doesn't know shit.
americandiaz your breath is so nasty, i wish the taliban would drive an airplane to the back of your throat. Do you have a green card you wetback, you fucking border jumper, you piece of mexican shit. white power.
americandiaz sound like a beaner name, maybe in mexico diaz they don't have an opened mind, maybe they are too busy eating tacos , and cutting my grass to change the way they are trained. Fuck you mexican motherfuckers(you or you mama) coming up here and trying to be like us, you fucking dirty spic, i piss on you and your beaner daddy. You'll never be the woman your daddy was bitch. diaz's momma so nasty her panties in the middle part looks like hotwing paper.
sounds to me like the maker of this video is another upset christian. the part that upsets me is trying to belittle krishnamurti. you even stated that he left theosophy, but because he is against religion in general he is somehow not knowledgeable? what a bunch of horse shit, just like the bible. the bible should be renamed grimm's fairy tales.
I used to think Krishnamurti was the shit until I discovered his relationship to Bernays, Darwin and The United Nations and to eugenics. The Christians have a right to be upset because ignorant lazy people do not question anything except the truth. Why not question the lies you believe in and leave those who know the truth alone. Krishnamurti ended up being my bitch after I mastered his writings and saw through the bullshit.
both sides of this dispute are full of shit, the bible is full of shit zeigeist is full of shit. Faith can not be bought or sold,preached or learned, no matter who one prays to, the important thing is to have faith not in images or idols, but each other, love each other and care for one another, fuck religions, fuck preachers, fuck zeigeist, fuck all who want to control the human spirit, fuck those who want to kill our free will, we must stand together, nevermind the bullocks.
To state the above mentioned correction, Occult specifically means, according to The American Heritage Dictionary, "1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena." As for "yourpimpho," take a long hard look at yourself, before you discredit the facts talked about in Zeitgeist.
Gee which way did he go George? uh duh look at me an apologist for Christianity, uh duh, and what does that make morons like yourself, apologists for Zeitgeist? Your debate skills are middle school at best. Get fooked yah kook!
All faiths of man??? Are you serious?? If you studied, or had a concept at any form or argument, you would see that the following video where the "unknown" author uses an insinuation that suggests that the word "occult" implicitly means evil or anything malicious in nature is plain fallacy. Occult is specifically mean, according to The American Heritage Dictionary, "1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena." Aristotle's Elements of Argument, anyone?
How can I be accused as an apologist for "Zeitgeist" when the films a collage of historical events which are common to anyone has taken a basic World civilization course. History always repeats itself, and the parallels and similarities blatantly obvious. Mankind, has shared concepts from one another for years and certainly the Bible isn't original though. Sad but true, and learn some respect for real scholarly work. Kids will be kids.
Kids will be kids, I am 41 with an education. The only kid is you and please quit spamming my email you fucking troll! hehehe. I do not want to read your same emails making the same petty arguments. If you want to debate the facts and be a scholar about it fine but you have no education obviously.
Flamers flame on, it's about time some sensible smart people refute that piece of shit CIA disinformation copyright violating piece of shit called "Zeitgeist". Everytime I think of the stupid Zeitgeist I imagine Billy Corgans big fat bald head and I fear the future, lol.
You are truly childish and immature in knowledge to make a comment as such. It's funny that you make that dumb comment, are you an agent of the CIA???
Neither Zeitgeist nor Zeitgeist Addendum can be refuted, it is impossible. Did you seriously and honestly take a hard look at the amount of sources for both films and research them to acquire a sense of the credibility of Peter Josephs Work?? Everyone who disregards the truth is ignorant and deserves to be lost in the transition. Pathetic.
Hey stupid, you ready to see who the real CIA agent is here? Well mr disinformation agent. Here goes buddy are you ready? ok one two three and JORDAN MAXWELL, MICHAEL TSARION, DAVID ICKE, PETER JOSEPH, All are either Jesuits or freemasons or new age propagandists and eugenists. Micgael Tsarions mother is close friends with Barbara Marx Hubbard who has called forpopulation control and the death of Christians. These agent provocateurs, are third rate agents of disinformation. Zeitgeist is shit, :)
blah blah blah blah, hows that for maturity? You want me to give up my souces? Look whos calling the kettle black ops, now. If you need "sources" just seek them out yourself "smarty pants" because people who know this to be fact, do not need to engage losers like yourself in useless dialogue. Does the phrase "google it" mean anything to you? I presented the "rumors" now go do your own research. "It's been swell but the swelling is over". ciao !
So you ran back to the first zeitgeist. Thats because you coulnt refute the Adendum. You want to create paranoia and people to run away from a video that encourages self-discovery, research and awareness.
Its understandable that you are afraid to put your religion into Question.
Hahahaha I like the part where it brings up that the price money is still available to be claimed by someone who can prove part 1. When it comes to talking about it, everyone is an expert. When it comes to proving it, nobody can.
Your bigoted ad hominem attacks on Atheist are not well founded. As for New Age people it's good to have religious diversity. What have New Agers done to you? What have Atheist done to you?
It is the NWO who creates false divisions created by man like Jew/Gentile, Christian/Heathen, Muslim/Infidel, Democrat/Republican, etc.
It is man who creates the divisions, not any organization. The divisions have existed since time immemorial before any NWO existed. This is where the true research comes in that mental midgets like yourself can't handle. This is where mental mastadons like myself enjoy to "catch up" on a good read. I have and am still studying all the faiths of man and it is beyond the scope of a stupid movie. This isn't grade school stuff here children, if you can't do the work then just sit on the sidelines.
Yes, your correct in your personal evaluation, "Sir, you are a mental midget." Honestly, it's time to grow up and attest to the facts found in ZeitGeist, a masterful piece of work in my opinion. Correct, "it is man who creates the divisions," yet you are missing the crucial point that only a handful of individuals dictate and shape the course of history for the ignorant masses. Additionally, you prior illusion, "people who know this to be fact" is disheartening. The Bible has no credibility.
Your ignorance is unparalleled, you have No knowledge of history or literature, you somehow gain some petty self-entitlement, by verbally bashing me, poor video editing, you kidding me? You are truly pathetic. 41 years old? You still have another 20 years to grow up and learn about your Swiss cheese religion. Nothing more that a victim of mind control. Oh and about spamming your email, turn off the email notification and "master" your account management. Address a real gripe of the documentary.
OMG! You really, really do not understand the first thing about the 'occult' do you. Unlike your literalist mentality of christianity where gods are gods, Lucifer is metaphorical NOT literal. You have basically taken a lot of quotes and presented them out of context to make a ridiculous argument that any true occultist would find hilarious! Your making 1+1 make 300! Your paranoia will keep you ignorant if not ultimately destroy you.
'occult' actually means hidden knowledge, you see this as a bad thing? Bringing 'hidden knowledge' to the forefront is a bad thing?? I dont understand, are you some kind of extreme christian, I really dont know where your coming from, you seem to have gone a'conspiracy' too far!
I could tell you that there is some problem in your house and that you better go check it out - which could be seen by you as very helpful info - and you are grateful and run into your house to check it out, and then the house falls down on you, or I steal your car while you are inside. He he.
Moral of the story is: Not all 'revealing' info is necessarily given to actually help you..
The name Venus project come from the name of the place of their Research Center, its in Venus, Florida...Stop making stupid conspiracy theories and be logic...Zeitgeist and the Venus Project promote freedom, they will never promote the chips, and all that shit you say.
And if that happen we will fight for a better World as we are now!
AzoreanProud' And why do you think that they chose exactly that name for that place of , ???? Don't be so naive & y vete with your telekinesis new age shit to another place .
Zeitgeist: addendum, speaks about the shit that its monetary system, and gives a solution to the world, where we don't use money, we divide resources with everyone, 90% of the jobs no longer exist, educative system its attractive and educative not selective, and you're free, and follow you're will.
Society in function of the people. Not people in function of society.
WE ARE FREE, illuminati, NWO, Zionist, it doesn't matter...Its what we want.
I wish religious people could open their eyes and realize that almost every religion has the same concepts and goals just worded differently. The people who give thumbs down to AzoreanProud are obviously brainwashed by there religions. We are all HUMANS on this planet together not christians, democrats, muslims, republicans or any of the other labels that have been made up by someone and given to us. Stop making accusations towards people without real research and discussion. Study symbolism.
ok now we need more research before bitching everyone. on left and right. it is higly possible that nwo agents infiltrate truth mouvments to shatter the movment itself. we must stop arguing about shit like that. other wise the nwo will win. dont bw a sheep. do some research if you dont belive in what he is talking about.
"most people who dont belive what other people tell them dosn't even belief in themselves first."
krishnamurti and buddha and those kind of guy, arent linked with christian and western views. so i dont undertsand why christianity views would have influenced kirshnamurti. Your christian views bethray your critical thinking.
Oh no, we can't have a world where everyone accepts everyone, and where stupid crap like religion don't cause violence and wars! We stop the evil zeitgeistmovie!
The guy talking in this video is named Chris White. He also goes by the name "Nowhere to Run". He is a Christian fundamentalist who helped launch a harassment campaign against Alan Watt for denying the Christian faith.
Videos like this are all he does with his time, he is the most brainwashed Christian you'll ever meet. He should be shunned by those who actually seek "truth"
Great video! So much to say. First, Christianity is a fraud, we can't help that. But you mention that the NWO must be destroyed so the Kingdom of God can come to be. But isn't that Christian doctrine? Revelations states that the anti-christ will rule for 36 months then "Jesus" will come back to rule. I've always had a feeling Christianity was Satan occult Satan worship. If what you say is true (about the NWO having to rise/fall) then you just proved my point. The answer is STOP THE NWO. Period.
why do all of the "debunking" videos start pointing fingers at other documentaries going "look its propaganda! its all lies to control you!"...I havent seen anything more out-right propaganic and decieving as this NWO belief....I don't think NWO believers can even believe their own kind...if someone goes against your views you say theyre "one of them"
Oh please, are you retarded? Zeitgeist is aginst the NWO, and instead calls for a new global understanding of the fact that we are all One, not a new world government.
When Jason Burmas interviewed Peter Joseph a couple of years ago JASON also said good things about Jordan Maxwell. Therefore Jason Burmas is clearly this new age occult supporter right? Riight.
sorry, you may have a point or not, it's all just babble-babble to me, i didn't understand a single sentence you just managed to push from your mouth in over 4 minutes. Zeitgeist exposes the people behind he worlds governements, what they want, and how the monetary system works and how it treats it's citizens as slaves for higher self gain
How could zeitgeist be linked to NWO (which are are real the people who want to verchip and enslave us) and luciferism?
are you guy's connecting dots? no, your debunking dots ,your missing the message tsarion, david icke, maxwell, alex jones are some of the only ones coming close to cracking the code... you have been conditioned threw monotheism to buy the big bannana[ the whole bible] the truth has been splintered and the story has to be put back together with open critical rational heart felt minds that can reason there is truth in every work[including bible] its our job to extract it..
you got your facts wrong , yes zeitgeist is nwo propaganda and p joseph has hijacked maxwells work but i personaly worked with maxwell exposing theosophy and some blavatky-ites, so you are trippin! maxwell should clear his name from zeitgeist..
ive interpereted his work alot differently than you so your entitled to your opinon ive always seen maxwell as a free thinker exposing the secret agendas behind religions and polotics and impowering us as individuals and too question everything[ even maxwell himself ] with that being said ,follow your heart bro, i know i dont care for blavatsky or theosophy, my motto is have a mind thats open to everything and attached to nothing, i do believe in love and morral boundries not blind pledgerism!
O_o Demons suck hate energy? Whoa...awesome!...Wish i could suck hate energy =/, and gain much power >:] meheheheheheeeeeeee. No but seriously, where is that in the holy babble? O_o never seen it lol. You should only go by the bible, the bible said so!..and it is perfect! It said that too! ^_^, you are funny.
huh? he goes by many names...malbogia is another isnt it? same deity that these folks worship all and all a being that wishes to be god but is not god.
No, the "He goes by many names" this doesn't fly, they aren't the same character, read Isaiah (The only place the name is ever used in the bible) If it's not in the bible then it's just something else someone came up with. Anyway, Lucifer is the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar, not Satan, read both Zacharia and Isaiah to understand the whole tree metaphors and what not,. If you read it again, yourself, you'll see it's a mortal man, a ruler who can actually die etc.
Lol, thank you, for a second (Based on the name) I thought I'd have to deal with another uptight christian trying to convince me that they were the same (And exist) If you note I said the "character" signifying it's just a story, interesting, if poorly written, at least interesting. Shows how strong tradition is though, with all the nut jobs out there, i actually feel bad for them. You can tell them something, offer proof, and watch them go "nnooooo? noooo? nuh uuuuh..noooo" Like, wtf? -_-..
You are being bated with the order out of chaos sceme. It is written on freemason certificates when you get to the 33rd degree.
ordo ab chao in latin.
As soon as they get rid of religion and disarm the world armies combining everything into a new world utopia like you want..Then they have you in the corner. You have no defense.
None of even understand what propaganda means
ilovebewbz101 3 weeks ago
And furthermore the term nwo has to be the most empty statement I've ever and frankly all of this nwo stuff and the zeitgeist movement is a conspiracy all of it is just fucking stupid it's really fucking stupid
ilovebewbz101 3 weeks ago
The first zeitgeist movie has nothing to do with the movement you stupid fucker
ilovebewbz101 3 weeks ago
@ilovebewbz101
Stop reffering to yourself loser
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youneekk 6 months ago
Were is the prove? I don't see any prove about the zeitgeist movement is a illuminati. FAIL
And your name is " zeitgeistDebunked". So let me tell you one ting, because all the videos o have that name are very cencured here.
Play671 8 months ago
@Play671 Theosphy os luciferian
rsaathoff 8 months ago
Even if the stuff they talk to us about is propaganda, the message that is spread by them is something that cant be stopped, stop putting labels on things, everybody living side by side, we do have the technology to do that and free people from shitty jobs and depressing lives, dont look at the people, read the message.
Hamesjayward 8 months ago
@voiceofreason467 Then there is no heaven either.
redeyestint 11 months ago
Christian fear mongering designed to keep flock in check. Zeitgeist stands for freedom and equality, maybe that's why religious bigots have a problem with it.
TerraRubicon 1 year ago
SAVE ME JESUS! THE FREEDOM HATERS GON TAKE MAH PROPERTY!
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Film is aimed at any would be questioning Christians to scare them and subdue them in to the continuation of the ignorance they are forced to endure or face going to hell and burning. All you have done is try to discredit any of the sources which clearly and with great reason did not believe in god. By scaring the viewers and linking the sources to something satanic which all Christians are brainwashed in fearing so gravely. your hoping that if you say Lucifer enough times it will scare them
orionomega 1 year ago
Occult means hidden. Lucifer as the devil or satan is never mention throughout the Bible! If you think so, gladly refer to "the fallen angel" story so cleverly taught. The problem with today's christianity or churchianity is that no one is taught the science or the archetypal and symbolic language on which many of the Biblical concepts are constructed. It's like trying to speak english without vowels... ends up being babel. Occult practices are likewise just as blinded - being devoid of Christ!
logan4732 1 year ago
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You are so pathetic you NEVER once tell your brainwashed uneducated supporters that the ancient Hebrew langauge NEVER had "J" letter consonants, therefore biblical words like Jesus, Jew, Jehovah, Jerusalem, etc... are NOT even Hebrew. Not to mention the vowels have to be taken out too because Hebrew had no vowels as we know them, nor any J consonants. How does it make you feel to keep lieing and brainwashing the masses of uneducated flocks of mind controlled "sheep" ????
EducatedRebellion101 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting these videos! I see now how they are trying to confuse everyone! Doesn't matter if you're an Illuminati, or anti-Illuminati, you are all a part of the grand plan to bring about the NWO. NWO = The Communist world in which humans worship Satan. What chilling times we are all living in! I do not wish this type of future on anyone.
creepyandweird9 1 year ago
Baloney Detection Kit: /watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU
all this is a pile of bs... this video is a good one from the Richard Dawkins Foundation. helps filter things like this out
lonedrow0 1 year ago
You really lost me at "...luciferian death cult" WTF are you talking about??
H82Sayit 1 year ago
The existence of god can allways be discussed, but u can force anyone to belive or not to. So that subject is retarded to pick up, even in a youtube forum.
Do you even know what the venus project and the zeitgeist movement is?
It is a bunch of people sharing ideas, thoughts and knowledge on how to make the world a better place.
At least they have idea on how to solve poverty, war, polution ect. world problems.
Look at society today, nothing but problems we cant go on like this.
Take care
Nicolajholm87 2 years ago 2
This video basically says that the Devil did zeitgeist, too look good in front of people and win them over.
I personally believe that it was Buddha! yes Buddha did it because Buddha its strong right now that Christians are all divided.
Now the Scientology guys claim it was the alien invaders... lol bunch of cookers how can they be so wrong... anyway poor fools.
So convert to Buddhism and save your self!..
oh and btw creator of ZeitgeistDebunked... you sound just as ridiculous.
Ramiromasters 2 years ago
Your quite right again, when listening to these people you must always keep an open mind as to their true intentions.
I dont think people quite yet understand as to why "they" are allowing us to comprehend their symbolism/agenda - thats all that seems to be peddled these days on the "conspiracy circuit".
Its akin to slowly being allowed to open ones eyes, but only being allowed to see what they let you see... part and partial of creating/manipulating the collective future.
Tactums 2 years ago
every zeitgeist mover should see this youtube video
watch?v=ugc_TKwOjDU&feature=related
66mra 2 years ago
AS for the ZM link to NWO its a stretch
The promoter that started the Red Sox baseball team was inspired by a man who once sat on a bus next to a man who knew the author of a book on the occult that contained a satanic symbol on page 114, so the satanic Red Sox color Red is satans halmark color and if you add the letters in "red sox" you get 6 letters but since red is 3 letters you put 6 three times in a row and you get 666.
Rickdeckard2020 2 years ago
Where Im from utopian means idealistic and impractical to put in practice
Its unlikely people will embrace the idea just by watching a video, cause unlike the Worgl experiment in Austria which was almost setup overnight, ressource based economy requires a complete overhaul of our present mess, a collosal endeavor, so imo it requires a lot of thinking to digest and fully evaluate. Thats why I think people should not reject the idea offhand. So far imo theres a lot more good about it than bad
Rickdeckard2020 2 years ago
You know what? Instead of complaining about other peoples solutions to the BS society that we live in, why not try to find solutions for yourself, and actually give something tangable to your society instead of just trying to debunk others ideas. You probably aren't capable of original thought, and this is why you feel the need to inject false logic into something that is clearly over your head. If you educated on the subject of debate you would know better than to rant without proper reaseach.
ILLUM1NATUS 2 years ago 14
Thank you. I couldn't have said it better.
kikrlbs 2 years ago
@ILLUM1NATUS okay. Get out of fake investments! Put them into real stuff (assets, silver, gold, skills) Decentralize! Crash the Federal Reserve. Clean house in congress. "Aldous Huxley Interview" look it up and educate yourself!
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@beebop46n2 Thats also what the Catholic church is promoting "Get out of fake investments! Put them into real stuff (assets, silver, gold, skills)".
lion575 4 weeks ago
@ILLUM1NATUS First of all, before you get all high and mighty on us, use spellcheck. You are clearly not capable of original thought and that is why you can't see or understand why capitalism is a failed system. Not to mention the solution is proposed, you just can't grasp it. If you educated yourself on economics, history and behavioral psychology, you would know that the free market system was built entirely on failed theories. Illuminatus, my ass.
Plax123 1 year ago
@ILLUM1NATUS zeitheads want you to be quiet about their flawed system, just ask a zeithead what the downside to their system is and they cant tell you, it must be utopia then. lmao
leelomoe 1 year ago 2
@ILLUM1NATUS actually, if you did YOUR proper research then you should see quite clearly that the agenda of the NWO and the talking points of this propaganda film are one and the same. taking all the obvious illuminati/masonic symbolism out of the argument it stands as a propaganda piece for the NWO. when you take into account the symbolism it becomes even more blatant. the foundation of their deception is in telling half-truths to gain our trust. 95% truth to get us to demand their agenda. duh.
dunkafelic 2 months ago
@ILLUM1NATUS How is following up Zeitgeist sources and showing that the Author's of those sources did not back up what Zeitgeist's claim or actually make the quotes false logic. Little research is required to show someone is using a false source and that is all these videos are really doing .... i.e. This is the cited source, the cited source never actually said this. Pretty simple to debunk Zeitgeist propaganda.
lion575 4 weeks ago
Zeitgeist is full of false propaganda. It is not science. It is not theory. It is religion. Simple false accusations so easy to adapt. Like the yellow press.
road6849 2 years ago
well whats your solution then?
HayteStreet 2 years ago
Well reject the lies and stay righteous! They promote theosophy because its moral is totally depleted. Haven't you heard what Blavatzki says? She rises Lucifer above God, as NWO elites! And what will that result in? Do you see? That results in war, greed, moral degradation, hunger, poverty, lies! Look at the world! It would be much better, but people like to 'do what they wont' in spite of morality and God.
eXecutivedirectress 2 years ago
*want
eXecutivedirectress 2 years ago
I don't believe in god anymore then i believe in santa clause. your just wasting your time.
HayteStreet 2 years ago
good luck then.. you will need it.
eXecutivedirectress 2 years ago
And I assume you have your own solutions and proof to the problems in our society? Zeitgeist Addendum uses very clear sources, like Merva-Fowles, Feral Children, etc. to make their points understood. Their idea's are tangible. But go ahead, enlighten me.
Youanden 2 years ago 3
i really don't understand people. Do you even know the meaning of propaganda? Zeitgeist is simply there to make ignorant people realize what is really going on, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that the world we live in is horribly corrupt and that the human race is killing itself much more than doing any good. It proposes a solution that would benefit every single human being on this planet, and you deny it? I hope one day you wake up.
Kinglaid 2 years ago
@Kinglaid If Zeitgeist is there to make ignorant people know what's going on why do they create and spread false histories? Are you claiming that The Egyptian Museum of History is false, The smithsonian is false, and Zeitgeist's are correct regarding Egyptian Mythology? That would be one hech of a conspiracy, sorry I dont buy it.
lion575 4 weeks ago
I dont think its wise to embrace nor to reject everything in Zeitgeist Addendum
I agree with a lot of whats said about the problems of our system, in a sense I am in favor of a new world order or is it the 2nd world order?(insert sinister music), Ive been brainwashed arghh.
But the solution proposed is utopian, and risks being crushed by the present hierachy or being highjacked the same way Stalin took over communism turning it upside down(bottom-up workers voting, into top-down dictator)
Rickdeckard2020 2 years ago
The solution is not utopian. You create that argument based on the computer generated depictions in the movie. They even state that there is no such thing as utopia, except religious people call it heaven. They should have kept those depictions out of the movie. What ever happened to dying for a cause? I fear not death, for it aleviates the pains of this world. -Andrew Wright
kikrlbs 2 years ago
the old testament was written before jesus lived, in hebrew and aramaic. not by pastors after jesus death. you people who make such outlandish claims are the ones who are ignorant. for all of you athiests, claiming the bile is a fake, or a plagerism, or whatever. you always hated christians to begin with, zeitgeis is just a movie that gave you blind god hating sheep, baseless amuntion to shoot at christians who are equally as uneducated as you.
sonofturbo 2 years ago
Once you can come up with any proof that a god ever existed and that any, ANY religion is true, then i'll beleive you. Until the day you can come up with evidence, TRUE evidence that religions are more than man-made, once you can come up with a better explanation of human evoltuion and once you can explain to me with proof that there is no other life forms in the billions and billions of planets out there, then i'll believe you. Until then, continue to believe in a god that does nothing for you.
Kinglaid 2 years ago
all i have to say is watch zeitgeist refuted. if you deny the truth of this documentary, you expose yourself as the blind sheep.
sonofturbo 2 years ago
There's a huge distortion of the truth in this video, find out what it is after watching both my playlists and you'll understand what they are trying to make you believe.
Uenbg 2 years ago 2
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I am compiling a playlist of the highest quality (accurate information) clips I found concerning the Great Concpiracy everybody is talking about. Those who are interested can have a look at my page. It currently contains 2 playlists with various information and historical data including the complete interview (I think it's complete) with John Todd, an ex-illuminati. It's best to start with video 1.
Remember that some of the clips contain sneaky misdirections concealed within the truth.
Uenbg 2 years ago
I already told you people. God CAN'T manifest himself to man bc of the fall from Grace (1st earth age). what would be the point of God giving man a choice to chose between accepting jesus or not, if he would just come down and say, "Hello". Again, God speaks to man through prophecy. Have you ever read Daniel? Anyway, it's your free-will to belive in God or not. No-one is twisting your arm.
elchingonaso76 2 years ago
Rockhard: Have you EVER seeked the truth, rather than use no knowledge to base an opinion? Why hasn't God revealed himself? He has, look at Biblical prophecy, look at Jesus' resurrection. I can go on. But if you want to open your, and if you consider yourself to be an intelligent person. Visit Hal Lindsey's and Jack Van Impe's web-site, and watch their videos, and how they tie current events to Biblical prophecy (God' way of materializing himself to man). God bless you, bro. & SEEK Jesus
elchingonaso76 2 years ago
umm have you ever used anything but the bible to prove that the bible is correct?
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago 2
have you? or do u just watch videos because youre too lazy to read.
ismetymeri 2 years ago
Another gripe I have with zeitgeist is that it make complete fabrications in the first movie and completely denies the existence of human nature, when an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence providences support for both the "Nature" and "Nurture" sides of human behavioral development.
d2eux 2 years ago
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More debunking crap, get a life and get off chris whites dik please
I'll give you 10/10 FOR SUPREME BULLSHYT
IF YOU WANT TO WASTE AN HOUR OR TWO OF YOUR LIFE FOR NO REASON PLEASE PRESS PLAY ON THE ABOVE lol
ilikebellendupmyanus 2 years ago
It's very interesting to note that any suggestion of change no matter how well its researched, is immediately "OF THE DEVIL" (quote from the water boy)The Venus Project makes no mention of a leader (Antichrist) And I never heard the Zeitgeist video make any reverence to bankers forming a "Death cult"
And if providing a possible solution to world hunger, ending war, and crime, and slavery is the plan of Lucifer. What kind of God are you worshiping.
UnruleySheep 2 years ago 3
Agreed
JeremyGViking 2 years ago
If this is "lacking" in hard information than you may need to get your ears checked.
PhilosophyMeditation 2 years ago
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incubated32 2 years ago
Well i think by lacking of hard info refers to the links not working, then again it also may be that the book 1984 wrote in 1948 :P doesnt say anything that's in zeitgeist and that the presenter claims that in his research he found "nations will share resources" whereas in Z they do not recognize nations... I think that may be it.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
not 1984, Brave New World by huxley. the fact is this ZA makes claims of the ultimate utopia that will end all suffering, but I never trust something from just one source. And today, like problems with religion, the truth movement, and zeitgeist, people are clinging to whatever answer they can as the solution to all of mankinds problems
d2eux 2 years ago
It's also funny how a lot of these videos seem to be trying to lead people to christianity...
Have you seen some youtuber called saint augustus or w/e? A lot of fear mongering, about the devil etc. trying to push people into becoming born again christians etc. to get into their power establishment and control.
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago
Nobody said ANYTHING about Christianity here. Thats just your imagination trying to make an excuse to justify what you believe about Zeitgeist!
PhilosophyMeditation 2 years ago
what power establishment control? we got heaven, we do not desire any power over you, or any kingdom other than that of the lord. you mock others attempt to lead you away from deception. time is running out. expect to hear alot more preaching. sorry but although your mind may be made up many others may still be saved
displaced36 2 years ago
Saved how?
A lot of churches do desire more people to worship because those people bring along a lot of money which they must donate "for the lord" or they are controlled other ways. Such as by forbidding actions, otherwise the devil will get ya. They also have a lot of political control, and the bailouts lately show the benefits of having political control.
What about the ban on gay marriage, or lots of other things because they go against certain religions. A lot of atheists are affected 2.
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago
saved by accepting jesus, striving to be like him, trying not to sin, honestly wanting forgiveness. you dont have to go to church for that, and you dont have to pay a penny. i dont think gay marriges should be banned, because church and state are seperate. but everyone will be judged. i think people should learn to abstrain from desires that go against god. straight people have vices too, premarital sex is a sin, all sins are equal, and can be forgiven, except for blasphemy of the holy spirit.
displaced36 2 years ago
just to be clear, it never says anywhere in the bible that you have to give money "for the lord" it does say that you should tithe to your church, and thats because preachers are important to god and they need to eat too, yes there are too many preachers that take advantage of that and tell people that god will bless them if they send them money, these people will be judged and theyre going to regret it on the day of judgement.
displaced36 2 years ago
Why do you accept the bible as truth? For all you know the preachers could have written it to control people, it could be as real as mickey mouse. History is full of Religion being used for abuse in the most malicious caliber. The inquisition, crusades, extortion for penance, destruction of: civil liberties, free thinking, science, etc.
Everyone thinks their god is real, and that their way is the best.
An invisible, undetectable god, should not expect faith.
Santa Claus...
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago
the reason i have to accept the bible as a truth is because i had a personal truth revealed to me not very long ago, and i would be lying to myself if i did not accept the bible as truth. im sorry, but what your saying about god being invisble, and undetecable does not apply to me, i did however ignore this fact for a while but thats because i really did not want to be held accountable for my sins, as they are my nature and it is not easy to try to refrain from commiting sin at all.
displaced36 2 years ago
and i think you are talking about papal rome, keep in mind i am a christian, i would have been put to death or imprisoned by the papacy if i had lived in those 1290 years that it was in power. god warns of papal rome and how it wold ry to change the laws of god, and blaspheme against god in the book of daniel. christanity is not responsible for the papacy, nor is god to be held accountable for the devils counterfeit christianity.
displaced36 2 years ago
Why doesn't god just reveal himself then?
I'm sure all those being deceived right now would automatically become believers if "the lord" came down and proved to everyone that he was real. But as it is, why not believe in every fairy tale ever created? What are the limits of your naivety and gullibility?
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago
if you really wanted to know the answer you would read the bible, it tells you why perfectly, but instead you are asking me question after question in an attempt to make me as lost as you. you are not asking because you are taking my answers into consideration. Psalms 14:1 & 53:1-2
do not expect any further reply from me.
displaced36 2 years ago
I could say the same thing back to you and insert almost any science text, or I could go completely the other way and say you should read Crowley's magik book or the koran, or other spiritual/religious crap. Why is your book truth. You need to become more flexible and quit citing one book as the complete source of knowledge and truth. Try thinking for yourself, look around.
Who created God?
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago
There is only one truth
dieforwhatubelive 2 years ago
Ya but everyone thinks that their truth is correct and that the other guy's truth is a lie from the devil.
rockhardxrocker 2 years ago
bible is not a book its a multittude of books over 25% of the book is prophecy. and it has been 100% accurate since now. but ofcourse u wouldnt check those things out because ur so against religion like u have been brainwashed by nwo jordan maxwell
ismetymeri 2 years ago
notice how you will never here those preachers preach the verse "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."
displaced36 2 years ago
You guys need to really research the goals of the Zeitgeist movement. Zeitgeist confronts the cause of the elite and NWO rather then the elite directly. It attacks their source of power rather then them. We will always lose if we try to fight them. We must simply stop working within their system. If we can do this they will be powerless before they know what hit them.
zwest135 2 years ago 3
Wow dood, sorry but I just couldn't pay attention to your video... .. Im sorry you lost so much time doing these videos... It's a shame you're such a sheep.
PushplayTV 2 years ago
You have got to do better than these pathetic propaganda videos if you want to muddy the waters of truth and try to gain any ground back ... the fact is that the NWO is being exposed by extremely intelligent and knowledgeable people. And the message is resinating in the world. It is finally making sense how we are being manipulated and used.
Your films are clearly false and fail to reveal what they claim to be about. What they are about is confusion and distortion.
atomic57 3 years ago 3
All of Zeitgeist's sources are from theosophical sources. Look it up, theosophy believes that Lucifer is the light. I am not christian, I dont believe in revelations, but this is what THEY believe. Their goal is to expose the NWO, and lead you to false solutions.
Plus, the Federal Reserve is NOT based on profit and free Market, but Zeitgeist wants you to believe that.
Plus, "eliminating the state" is a very old concept, so is relying on technology for everything
d2eux 3 years ago 2
Well .. if worshiping Lucifer brings relief to hunger, poverty, and many more social problems .. I think am willing to do so.
Now, they claim that there's no good nor evil, so that means we will not worship any kind of dogma .. get my point?
Eliminating the state,.. a state that does not exist.
gordilloedwin 2 years ago
you do know you would be worshipping a lying deciever right? where would that get you? you expect the father of lies to finally tell the truth? can you say "backfire"?
displaced36 2 years ago
come find me bitch lets meet at the mcdonald's on E putnam ave here in Greenwich Connecticut,u sad motherfucker, trying to be like michael jackson son u were born bean color don't try to be white,why? u ungrateful border jumper u talk shit about us and our great land if u and your faggot family munch off of it. suck my dick u dirty wetback, go back to your shit hole how fucked up that place is;did u know there's no more cocksuckers in mexico? yeah they're all over here now XDXDXD
yourpimpho 3 years ago
mexicandiaz can lick aids having dick while his mom jerks him off into his daddy's herpes having mouth, lick the nasty part of the pope's gonorrhea having ass motherfucker may your kids die from colon cancer you piece of shit.
yourpimpho 3 years ago
having trash like mexicandiaz around thumping his chest saying "i'm smarter than you i know names from the internet, i browse wikipedia"is counterproductive, if just one person listens and believes this turd, that's one less mind that's willing to look for any truth, my advice to all is finish school go to college get a master's degree, never stop learning,but do just dad learn don't get brain washed,learn what they say don't think what they do,keep on learning p.s. fuck mexicandiaz
yourpimpho 3 years ago
we should not let people like mexicandiaz into the states, fanaticism(of the religious kind) is the most dangerous, advance thinking should spread like aids, not just my advance way, but yours too. Why should all be enlighten? because it advances science and the fine arts, the more people have advance education the least they commit crimes and turn to violence,advancing science and arts is our purpose here on earth we evolve and migrate to the next world and so on and on.
yourpimpho 3 years ago
by the way mexicandiaz do you know where the particular Rhodes in Rhodes scholar comes from, your education did u get it at community college, you should read works by the following Christopher Wren, Joseph Addison, Bishop Sprat, Robert Hooke,Karl Löwith, Herbert Marcuse, Claude Levi-Strauss, Martin Buber, Edmund Husserl. Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault,just for starters ma boy, i hope you can read English well, these folk will teach you an assortment of ideals that you can not conjure up on ya own
yourpimpho 3 years ago
like diaz says his momma was a mastodon, i bet the bitch is so fat she sweats canola oil. You have to be pretty stupid not to see past all this shit. The bible,war and peace,the Torah,Canterbury tales,100 years of solitude, all this books have something in common, they were written by men, not gods. There is no invisible man in the sky that's just a tale to keep you in line like the boogie man, now this spic(oreo cookie) mexicandiaz says he's a Rhodes scholar, but he doesn't know shit.
yourpimpho 3 years ago
americandiaz your breath is so nasty, i wish the taliban would drive an airplane to the back of your throat. Do you have a green card you wetback, you fucking border jumper, you piece of mexican shit. white power.
yourpimpho 3 years ago
americandiaz sound like a beaner name, maybe in mexico diaz they don't have an opened mind, maybe they are too busy eating tacos , and cutting my grass to change the way they are trained. Fuck you mexican motherfuckers(you or you mama) coming up here and trying to be like us, you fucking dirty spic, i piss on you and your beaner daddy. You'll never be the woman your daddy was bitch. diaz's momma so nasty her panties in the middle part looks like hotwing paper.
yourpimpho 3 years ago
Does anyone here remember the Monty Python skit, spam spam spam spam, and more spam.
Spam sandwich anyone?
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
sounds to me like the maker of this video is another upset christian. the part that upsets me is trying to belittle krishnamurti. you even stated that he left theosophy, but because he is against religion in general he is somehow not knowledgeable? what a bunch of horse shit, just like the bible. the bible should be renamed grimm's fairy tales.
MrRichard2U 3 years ago
I used to think Krishnamurti was the shit until I discovered his relationship to Bernays, Darwin and The United Nations and to eugenics. The Christians have a right to be upset because ignorant lazy people do not question anything except the truth. Why not question the lies you believe in and leave those who know the truth alone. Krishnamurti ended up being my bitch after I mastered his writings and saw through the bullshit.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
both sides of this dispute are full of shit, the bible is full of shit zeigeist is full of shit. Faith can not be bought or sold,preached or learned, no matter who one prays to, the important thing is to have faith not in images or idols, but each other, love each other and care for one another, fuck religions, fuck preachers, fuck zeigeist, fuck all who want to control the human spirit, fuck those who want to kill our free will, we must stand together, nevermind the bullocks.
yourpimpho 3 years ago
To state the above mentioned correction, Occult specifically means, according to The American Heritage Dictionary, "1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena." As for "yourpimpho," take a long hard look at yourself, before you discredit the facts talked about in Zeitgeist.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
The only one full of shit is you , look how it spews from your lips, lol. idiot.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
You seem to be a Christianity apologist. If this is the case, learn about your own religious, study history before you claim false lies.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
Gee which way did he go George? uh duh look at me an apologist for Christianity, uh duh, and what does that make morons like yourself, apologists for Zeitgeist? Your debate skills are middle school at best. Get fooked yah kook!
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
All faiths of man??? Are you serious?? If you studied, or had a concept at any form or argument, you would see that the following video where the "unknown" author uses an insinuation that suggests that the word "occult" implicitly means evil or anything malicious in nature is plain fallacy. Occult is specifically mean, according to The American Heritage Dictionary, "1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena." Aristotle's Elements of Argument, anyone?
Hypokrites 3 years ago
I wipe my behind with The American Heritage Dicktionary.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
How can I be accused as an apologist for "Zeitgeist" when the films a collage of historical events which are common to anyone has taken a basic World civilization course. History always repeats itself, and the parallels and similarities blatantly obvious. Mankind, has shared concepts from one another for years and certainly the Bible isn't original though. Sad but true, and learn some respect for real scholarly work. Kids will be kids.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
Kids will be kids, I am 41 with an education. The only kid is you and please quit spamming my email you fucking troll! hehehe. I do not want to read your same emails making the same petty arguments. If you want to debate the facts and be a scholar about it fine but you have no education obviously.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
Flamers flame on, it's about time some sensible smart people refute that piece of shit CIA disinformation copyright violating piece of shit called "Zeitgeist". Everytime I think of the stupid Zeitgeist I imagine Billy Corgans big fat bald head and I fear the future, lol.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
You are truly childish and immature in knowledge to make a comment as such. It's funny that you make that dumb comment, are you an agent of the CIA???
Neither Zeitgeist nor Zeitgeist Addendum can be refuted, it is impossible. Did you seriously and honestly take a hard look at the amount of sources for both films and research them to acquire a sense of the credibility of Peter Josephs Work?? Everyone who disregards the truth is ignorant and deserves to be lost in the transition. Pathetic.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
Hey stupid, you ready to see who the real CIA agent is here? Well mr disinformation agent. Here goes buddy are you ready? ok one two three and JORDAN MAXWELL, MICHAEL TSARION, DAVID ICKE, PETER JOSEPH, All are either Jesuits or freemasons or new age propagandists and eugenists. Micgael Tsarions mother is close friends with Barbara Marx Hubbard who has called forpopulation control and the death of Christians. These agent provocateurs, are third rate agents of disinformation. Zeitgeist is shit, :)
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
Please display your sources before, spewing unsubstantiated claims. Your immaturity in this situations discredits you.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
blah blah blah blah, hows that for maturity? You want me to give up my souces? Look whos calling the kettle black ops, now. If you need "sources" just seek them out yourself "smarty pants" because people who know this to be fact, do not need to engage losers like yourself in useless dialogue. Does the phrase "google it" mean anything to you? I presented the "rumors" now go do your own research. "It's been swell but the swelling is over". ciao !
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
Is this another bullshit religious video or what? all i can hear is 'baaa' 'baaa'
FFSYouTookMyUsername 3 years ago
So you ran back to the first zeitgeist. Thats because you coulnt refute the Adendum. You want to create paranoia and people to run away from a video that encourages self-discovery, research and awareness.
Its understandable that you are afraid to put your religion into Question.
josemanuelsalgado 3 years ago 4
Hahahaha I like the part where it brings up that the price money is still available to be claimed by someone who can prove part 1. When it comes to talking about it, everyone is an expert. When it comes to proving it, nobody can.
MostarSPQR 3 years ago
keep up the good work!!!
JayJaredSmithMusic 3 years ago
..atheist are the useful idiots for the nwo and the new age hipies too
ResistenciaHumana 3 years ago
Your bigoted ad hominem attacks on Atheist are not well founded. As for New Age people it's good to have religious diversity. What have New Agers done to you? What have Atheist done to you?
It is the NWO who creates false divisions created by man like Jew/Gentile, Christian/Heathen, Muslim/Infidel, Democrat/Republican, etc.
jaymthegenius 3 years ago
It is man who creates the divisions, not any organization. The divisions have existed since time immemorial before any NWO existed. This is where the true research comes in that mental midgets like yourself can't handle. This is where mental mastadons like myself enjoy to "catch up" on a good read. I have and am still studying all the faiths of man and it is beyond the scope of a stupid movie. This isn't grade school stuff here children, if you can't do the work then just sit on the sidelines.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
Yes, your correct in your personal evaluation, "Sir, you are a mental midget." Honestly, it's time to grow up and attest to the facts found in ZeitGeist, a masterful piece of work in my opinion. Correct, "it is man who creates the divisions," yet you are missing the crucial point that only a handful of individuals dictate and shape the course of history for the ignorant masses. Additionally, you prior illusion, "people who know this to be fact" is disheartening. The Bible has no credibility.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
A masterful piece of work? lol, the editing is so bad it wouldnt get a good grade in filmaking 101, you are a waste of space, lol.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
Your ignorance is unparalleled, you have No knowledge of history or literature, you somehow gain some petty self-entitlement, by verbally bashing me, poor video editing, you kidding me? You are truly pathetic. 41 years old? You still have another 20 years to grow up and learn about your Swiss cheese religion. Nothing more that a victim of mind control. Oh and about spamming your email, turn off the email notification and "master" your account management. Address a real gripe of the documentary.
Hypokrites 3 years ago
wow...the guy who made this video might be slightly retarded, judging by his work.
1Miraculum 3 years ago
OMG! You really, really do not understand the first thing about the 'occult' do you. Unlike your literalist mentality of christianity where gods are gods, Lucifer is metaphorical NOT literal. You have basically taken a lot of quotes and presented them out of context to make a ridiculous argument that any true occultist would find hilarious! Your making 1+1 make 300! Your paranoia will keep you ignorant if not ultimately destroy you.
handofhezekiah 3 years ago
'occult' actually means hidden knowledge, you see this as a bad thing? Bringing 'hidden knowledge' to the forefront is a bad thing?? I dont understand, are you some kind of extreme christian, I really dont know where your coming from, you seem to have gone a'conspiracy' too far!
handofhezekiah 3 years ago
I could tell you that there is some problem in your house and that you better go check it out - which could be seen by you as very helpful info - and you are grateful and run into your house to check it out, and then the house falls down on you, or I steal your car while you are inside. He he.
Moral of the story is: Not all 'revealing' info is necessarily given to actually help you..
Kenzofeis 3 years ago
krishnamurti is a frustado hipocrita manipulador de Tontos.
atravezdelaverdad 3 years ago
The name Venus project come from the name of the place of their Research Center, its in Venus, Florida...Stop making stupid conspiracy theories and be logic...Zeitgeist and the Venus Project promote freedom, they will never promote the chips, and all that shit you say.
And if that happen we will fight for a better World as we are now!
AzoreanProud 3 years ago 2
AzoreanProud' And why do you think that they chose exactly that name for that place of , ???? Don't be so naive & y vete with your telekinesis new age shit to another place .
atravezdelaverdad 3 years ago
Lots of projects call their name on their origin place...Telekinesis is not new age, it exist since man lived...
First of all go research about the Venus project, and you will see that have nothing about NWO...or satanism lol...
AzoreanProud 3 years ago
THAT SHIT DOESN'T FACKEN MATTER!!!!
Zeitgeist: addendum, speaks about the shit that its monetary system, and gives a solution to the world, where we don't use money, we divide resources with everyone, 90% of the jobs no longer exist, educative system its attractive and educative not selective, and you're free, and follow you're will.
Society in function of the people. Not people in function of society.
WE ARE FREE, illuminati, NWO, Zionist, it doesn't matter...Its what we want.
AzoreanProud 3 years ago
I wish religious people could open their eyes and realize that almost every religion has the same concepts and goals just worded differently. The people who give thumbs down to AzoreanProud are obviously brainwashed by there religions. We are all HUMANS on this planet together not christians, democrats, muslims, republicans or any of the other labels that have been made up by someone and given to us. Stop making accusations towards people without real research and discussion. Study symbolism.
Akerninja 3 years ago 2
True word my man... To bad that there are to many selfish people in this world...
okram1942 3 years ago
ok now we need more research before bitching everyone. on left and right. it is higly possible that nwo agents infiltrate truth mouvments to shatter the movment itself. we must stop arguing about shit like that. other wise the nwo will win. dont bw a sheep. do some research if you dont belive in what he is talking about.
"most people who dont belive what other people tell them dosn't even belief in themselves first."
monsterrun 3 years ago
Your debunking is as bullshit as the film itself.
ERupolo 3 years ago
krishnamurti and buddha and those kind of guy, arent linked with christian and western views. so i dont undertsand why christianity views would have influenced kirshnamurti. Your christian views bethray your critical thinking.
DideeKawaii 3 years ago
Oh no, we can't have a world where everyone accepts everyone, and where stupid crap like religion don't cause violence and wars! We stop the evil zeitgeistmovie!
Reeeeetards.
seraph101 3 years ago
The guy talking in this video is named Chris White. He also goes by the name "Nowhere to Run". He is a Christian fundamentalist who helped launch a harassment campaign against Alan Watt for denying the Christian faith.
Videos like this are all he does with his time, he is the most brainwashed Christian you'll ever meet. He should be shunned by those who actually seek "truth"
alexhallgren 3 years ago 3
Great video! So much to say. First, Christianity is a fraud, we can't help that. But you mention that the NWO must be destroyed so the Kingdom of God can come to be. But isn't that Christian doctrine? Revelations states that the anti-christ will rule for 36 months then "Jesus" will come back to rule. I've always had a feeling Christianity was Satan occult Satan worship. If what you say is true (about the NWO having to rise/fall) then you just proved my point. The answer is STOP THE NWO. Period.
djchrisgeo 3 years ago
why do all of the "debunking" videos start pointing fingers at other documentaries going "look its propaganda! its all lies to control you!"...I havent seen anything more out-right propaganic and decieving as this NWO belief....I don't think NWO believers can even believe their own kind...if someone goes against your views you say theyre "one of them"
heavyflower 3 years ago 2
Yes, the Occult is just a bunch of hocus pocus mumbo jumbo, but so is Christianity.
Stop trying to present yourself as a reasonable truth seeker, you are so woefully deceived you can't even see how silly your own superstitions are.
alexhallgren 3 years ago
Alexhallgren, occult is defined as "what is hidden". That's it.
djchrisgeo 3 years ago
Dj Chris, that's cute. "The occult" is a term generally accepted to mean the study of the dark arts.
But yes, you definition Nazi, the word itself means hidden, and everyone who has even seen a youtube video on the subject knows that.
alexhallgren 3 years ago
All you guys really believe Alex Jones on this? My god, you all all such idiots.
Edbrad 3 years ago
THANK YOU AGAIN!
Entirely Truth!
The Zeitgeist Movement IS the New World Order and the One World Religion of Self.
AnonymousCommentator 3 years ago
Oh please, are you retarded? Zeitgeist is aginst the NWO, and instead calls for a new global understanding of the fact that we are all One, not a new world government.
seraph101 3 years ago 3
garbage
jordaniel21 3 years ago 2
When Jason Burmas interviewed Peter Joseph a couple of years ago JASON also said good things about Jordan Maxwell. Therefore Jason Burmas is clearly this new age occult supporter right? Riight.
Edbrad 3 years ago
Jason Burmas is a Zionist protecting the Media Involvement on 9/11, just like Alex Jones.
ABC Corp. owns GCN Network!
AnonymousCommentator 3 years ago
Ahh :(
I was knew that "Venus Project" was too good to be real.
At the same time I was thinking: It's impossible to give 6 billion people those wonderful conditions of life.
Panter4 3 years ago
sorry, you may have a point or not, it's all just babble-babble to me, i didn't understand a single sentence you just managed to push from your mouth in over 4 minutes. Zeitgeist exposes the people behind he worlds governements, what they want, and how the monetary system works and how it treats it's citizens as slaves for higher self gain
How could zeitgeist be linked to NWO (which are are real the people who want to verchip and enslave us) and luciferism?
speak clearly and i might beieve ya
LemonAndYoghurt 3 years ago
are you guy's connecting dots? no, your debunking dots ,your missing the message tsarion, david icke, maxwell, alex jones are some of the only ones coming close to cracking the code... you have been conditioned threw monotheism to buy the big bannana[ the whole bible] the truth has been splintered and the story has to be put back together with open critical rational heart felt minds that can reason there is truth in every work[including bible] its our job to extract it..
crazycasy 3 years ago
Lol. All those paranoia Jones follower really have not a clue what this docu is about..!!!
pretty funny
TOAFN 3 years ago
you got your facts wrong , yes zeitgeist is nwo propaganda and p joseph has hijacked maxwells work but i personaly worked with maxwell exposing theosophy and some blavatky-ites, so you are trippin! maxwell should clear his name from zeitgeist..
crazycasy 3 years ago
crazycasy, Are you saying that Jordan Maxwell is against theosophy and helen blavatsky's work?
haarpcloud911 3 years ago
yes absolutely!
crazycasy 3 years ago
dude, go to his website and read, then tell me what you just said again.
haarpcloud911 3 years ago
ive interpereted his work alot differently than you so your entitled to your opinon ive always seen maxwell as a free thinker exposing the secret agendas behind religions and polotics and impowering us as individuals and too question everything[ even maxwell himself ] with that being said ,follow your heart bro, i know i dont care for blavatsky or theosophy, my motto is have a mind thats open to everything and attached to nothing, i do believe in love and morral boundries not blind pledgerism!
crazycasy 3 years ago
Zeitgeist Addendum is inspired by none other than satan..Jesus is coming soon..look up our redemption draws neigh
mousey1952 3 years ago
yeah, the devil would expose his whole plan of world domination just so he could discredid jebus. God conspracy theorists are fucking stupid.
PoisonToothG 3 years ago
Poison, you seem like just another person filled with hatred!!! Is that all you guys do?
I don't understand the hate for Christians that's being demonstrated these days. We don't hate you.
Demons draw much energy from your hatred! They feed on you!!! You're helping them!!!Seek God and Pray my friend, for your sake, before it's too late!
God Bless You and Keep You
haarp
haarpcloud911 3 years ago
lol!
PoisonToothG 3 years ago
O_o Demons suck hate energy? Whoa...awesome!...Wish i could suck hate energy =/, and gain much power >:] meheheheheheeeeeeee. No but seriously, where is that in the holy babble? O_o never seen it lol. You should only go by the bible, the bible said so!..and it is perfect! It said that too! ^_^, you are funny.
Ravindra9689 3 years ago
Define "soon".
TheHolySpirit 3 years ago
Lucifer and Satan aren't the same, common misconception and a part of our culture and tradition, no matter how incorrect, it's here to stay.
Ravindra9689 3 years ago
huh? he goes by many names...malbogia is another isnt it? same deity that these folks worship all and all a being that wishes to be god but is not god.
shenmueryu 3 years ago
No, the "He goes by many names" this doesn't fly, they aren't the same character, read Isaiah (The only place the name is ever used in the bible) If it's not in the bible then it's just something else someone came up with. Anyway, Lucifer is the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar, not Satan, read both Zacharia and Isaiah to understand the whole tree metaphors and what not,. If you read it again, yourself, you'll see it's a mortal man, a ruler who can actually die etc.
Ravindra9689 3 years ago
Lucifer and Satan are the same.. in the way that they both don't actually exist
TheHolySpirit 3 years ago
Lol, thank you, for a second (Based on the name) I thought I'd have to deal with another uptight christian trying to convince me that they were the same (And exist) If you note I said the "character" signifying it's just a story, interesting, if poorly written, at least interesting. Shows how strong tradition is though, with all the nut jobs out there, i actually feel bad for them. You can tell them something, offer proof, and watch them go "nnooooo? noooo? nuh uuuuh..noooo" Like, wtf? -_-..
Ravindra9689 3 years ago
you guys sit here and wait for your invisible jesus to come save you while i get off my ass and try to change this world for the better.
skateordie1027 3 years ago
Come help me build my new robot.
KeithTruth 3 years ago
laugh about it but i gladly would help make a machine that could produce something positive for us all.
skateordie1027 3 years ago
You have been badly brainwashed by the new world order.
KeithTruth 3 years ago
wrong, you have been badly brainwashed by christianity. all i want is a better world and it differs from what the nwo wants.
skateordie1027 3 years ago
You are being bated with the order out of chaos sceme. It is written on freemason certificates when you get to the 33rd degree.
ordo ab chao in latin.
As soon as they get rid of religion and disarm the world armies combining everything into a new world utopia like you want..Then they have you in the corner. You have no defense.
wake up.
KeithTruth 3 years ago
sorry, not convinced. religion doesn't keep them from having us in a corner.
skateordie1027 3 years ago