christianshitty is just another common human worship cult. like countless others who say our human is god. the most happy thing in world is knowing xtians will go to hell that is pure justice, no1 deserves hell more than these pagan swine
@mrlogicalman1 Also you are not to worship Jesus, you are to worship God. He sent Jesus though as a sacrifice for Our sins So that we can be cleansed to be with him in heaven.
The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
@FatalFistScuMM1 Dr. Kenneth Cragg, former editor of the prestigious scholarly journal Muslim World and an outstanding modern Western Islamic scholar, whose works were generally published by Oxford University, comments: " The name Allah is also evident in archaeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia" (The Call of the Minaret, New York: OUP, 1956, p.31)
Please explain how thats true if Muhammed was supposed to have been the one he talked to why would it be known before islam?
Islam is not a new religion as most people believe, it was the way of life of all prophets from Adam to Noah, Jacob Moses David, Jesus, & Muhammad (Peace be upon them all) and all those who came between them. All of them taught to believe in one God alone, no partners,no wives daughters or sons !
Therefore it is not surprising to find the name Allah in pre-Islamic history, including christian, jewish and history that predates them.
@muneebsg The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
@yuppa396 "The Quraysh tribe into which Mohammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah. "The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god"
saying something without evidences is not worth a penny, i hope you can support your argument based on evidences. How is Islam a moon-god religion, what is the archaeological evidence you talk about. I hope you do a little study before saying something like the ignorant masses.
@muneebsg w w w .nccg.org / islam / Islam01-Allah.h t m l
I spaced it out. thats one of the places i got some of the quotes based on researched material. It says Arcahologist found evidence to what i was speaking of.
The bases of any religion is belief, belief is something to do with oneself, it is in the "heart".It is not possible for you to tell me what we believe, because for that you will have to open my heart and have a look inside first.
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It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a derived light and determined for it phases - that you may know the number of years and account [of time]. Allah has not created this except in truth. He details the signs for a people who know.
@muneebsg Thanks for the link. Ill go look at it as you asked. Its hard to ge tto the truth sometimes sorting through all the information out there.The site i went to really needs to re do it apparently because it seems google does not find those refrences. @mrlogicalman1 Le tme ask a moment. IF GOD is all powerful and able to make the earth and universe,is it really that much a stretch to think he split of a part of himself to walk among the people he created for a bit?
huh? Why would it not be known before Islam? Do you not understand that since Prophet Adam, the message of God has been the same. So Ofc Allah, will come. Do remember that Abraham had two sons. And Ibrahim/Abraham visited Makkah, and rebuilt the Holy Kabbah. And naturally in a family, the religion of Ibrahim was followed, and thus the " The name Allah is also evident in archaeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia"
Prophet Ibrahim had two sons. One line led to Prophets that the jews got. The other led to our Prophet. The Word Allah would Ofc be carried on within the family, and followers. And because we know that Prophet Ibrahim visited Makkah, we can say that from that time onwards. It can be expected to find the word Allah in archaeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia. Our book narrates everything. Maybe give it a read, instead of terming it "Moon-god" we do not worship the moon
As for John1:1, this theory came from Greek philosophy which was attributed to the bible. it became a technical term in philosophy, beginning with Heraclitus (ca. 535--475 BC)
Morpho you confused me but its seems like your confused to you stated that your monothisitic religion worships God ALONE but also worship his son Jesus pbuh because he spoke gods words and the word of god is god so he is god and so is his mother because obviously humans do not give birth to gods then wouldn't this be worshiping the creation and not the creator. Modern Christianity sounds like paganism worshiping god through his creation. Is god inadicute of worship alone? If so then where is th
How then did the morning and evening come to pass ? According toGenesis 1:12 Earth brings forth it's grass, and herbs, yielding seeds and fruit trees. But Still NO SUN Created !
@Morpho32 Lets go with your primordial light theory for arguments sake. How then is time measured ? The 3 principals of measuring time are: rotational time, dynamic time and atomic time. Only possible principal for measuring time at the time of the big bang is Rotational time which relies on the movements of the earth around it's axis. Time is Not measured by Primordial light.
If Jesus(pbuh) is G-D and he was willing to die for the sins of mankind then to whom does he cry out to when he's alleged crucifixion on the cross ? When he screams out "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
When you pronounce 'Eloi' it sounds a lot like 'Allah'
@salkas47 So you decide. Either the verse means the sun was already created before the light could be visible (and so it contradicts your message) or the Bible says there was light before the creation of the sun and thus it would mean it's a scientific miracle in the Bible.
If the bible authors whom every single one of the authors of the books of the bible are UNKNOWN were inspired by G-D, then does ALMIGHTY G-D who is the Creator of the heavens and the earth make mistakes ?
@salkas47 You're proving you don't know anything about science. Search for "primordial light". There was light before the creation of the sun when there was the big bang. Look at the NASA website if you want a verified source.
@salkas47 And even if you didn't know about primordial light, the verse in the Bible could mean that the sun what already created but its light was not visible to the earth.
"And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth:" (GE 1:15)
It's not said that the "sun wasn't created untile the fourth day" as you say. You're interpreting this verse as you wish to that you can criticize the Bible.
Verily,We did send down the Taurat [to Moses],therein was guidance and light,by which the Prophets,who submitted themselves to Allah's Will, judged the Jews.And the rabbis and the priests [too judged the Jews by the Taurat after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Book,and they were witnesses thereto.Therefore fear not men but fear Me (O Jews) and sell not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed,such are the Kafirun
Always the same story. Save your time, don't write it again and again... The problem with muslims is that they see "miracles" everywhere. There's NO miracle at all in that people momorize the Quran. They spend their life doing this. Some people know the Bible by heart too but you don't look for them. To be more credible, stop finding "miracles" everywhere and live your faith, that's it. Stop trying to live your faith through other people. Pray in peace.
Allah saved Jesus, but did not save Muhamamd, A LIAR.
Quran 69:43-56
(This is) a Message sent down from the Lord of the Worlds, if the apostle were to INVENT ANY SAYINGS in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, Then We would have cut from him the AORTA.
Bukhari, 5:59:713 Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my AORTA is being cut from that poison."
Look... The jews is famous in the qur'an and in the bible... so lets draw a line. God just want to test the jews between righteous jews and devil worship jews so God created religion OUT SIDE the jewish family tree, its called Islam. Abraham has the correct faith... and it is split to the jews and the arabs (ishaq and Ishmael). SIMPLE
"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." (John 8:58)
Can you tell me why Allah in the Quran says that muslims have to follow the Bible if the Bible was already "corrupted"? Because according to muslims, it was already corrupted several years before the Quran so why Allah said you have to read it?
These three confirm that the Bible is true and can be taken as true. But according to muslims, the Bible was already corrupted at that time and there's no mention about that in the Quran here. Why?
@Morpho32 Surah 3:3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. (3) Aforetime, for a guidance to mankind; and hath revealed the Criterion of right and wrong.
Surah 5:44 Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews,.. (see next comment)
@theSblackburn Quran stating that These books were sent by Allah to them (jews), We all muslims believe that Bible and Torah in their orginal form are the word of God. but we dont believe in the corrupt version of these books which is present today.
@Morpho32 ...and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.
So in the verses you mentioned Allah doesn't say that muslims have to follow the Bible, but he tells us that he revealed before the Quran, other books to other prophets,
@theSblackburn So why God didn't say the Bible is corrupted if it was? In 5:44, Allah says He revealed the Bible wherein IS guidance and a light. The tense is present, He didn't say "WAS guidance...". So at the time of the Quran, Allah says you can read the Bible as it's a light. So either it was corrupted and the Quran is not accurate or it was not corrupted but then why God would have sent the Quran if the Bible was true/light/guidance?
@Morpho32 Allah says "We DID reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, ..." so the torah or the Injil the book revealed to Jesus (not the bible) are guidance and light as they was revealed.
@theSblackburn Yes the Injil if you prefer, it's even better, this is what we trust the most. So Allah says he did reveal it and it IS true/guidance/light. The Gospels (Injils) have many references to the Old Testament and the "zabur".
But whether it is the Bible or just Torah/Injil, Allah used the present tense. At the time of the Quran, Allah said the Injil was correct. So was it corrupted at that time or not? If yes, why Allah said that. If no, why the Quran?
@Morpho32 All praises to Allah who made hearts open to wanting to know more.
God has sent down the last Revelation, the Last prophet and the Seal of all Prophets. Also means after this last revelation from God there will be no more coming and no more prophets coming.
Whats next to come is the end of the world. And we will be brought back to Him on Judgement day.
@Morpho32 It was the first ever Taurat that could be considered as light/guidance. And those books can still be considered as guidance. HOWEVER, the original books of Taurat (not corrupted by humans) have already been destroyed through the years. So yes, the ORIGINAL can be followed, but it's no longer around.
@Morpho32 - The bible says no to wine yet you drink it, it says no to the meat of pig yet you eat it, it says no to women priests yet u have them, it says no to gay marriage yet it happens in your churches,
not that u disobeyed the original bible but u changed it to suit your needs. so it is corrupted. the bible wasnt there when Jesus AS was around. it came afterwards. it is not the word of god nor in the bible does it say that it is the law or word of god.
@Morpho32 - The Quran says the jews & christians made legal what was illegal and illegal what was legal. the bible the torah etc were so when the Quran was revealed the laws were similar and the religion was the same as the religion of Abraham AS so everyone was to follow Muhammad PBUH & the Quran & the Quran says when you are presented with the book i.e christians, jews you thrust it behind your back as to not wanting to believe.
@Morpho32 - your own priests etc have never won a debate against a Muslim scholar as the Quran is the truth. It says in the Quran argue with them nicely and with respect & the book i.e. knowledge and we do SubhanAllah and we the Muslims have never lost today as the truth cannot be defeated. only in the last couple of years attacks and lies and slander have been spread against Muslims and the final true Messenger Muhammad PBUH as there is no other way to defeat the truth ...
@Morpho32 - The original bible mentions on the last page LA ILAHA ILALA - NO GOD BUT ALLAH
Even Jesus PBUH on ther cross b4 he was taken back to the heavens by Allah shouted out ILLAI ILLAI which in aramaic is Allah ....
Judaism, Christianity etc are all Islam (submission to Allah) Jesus never came with christianity the romans called him christ as it was the new thing to be a part of. He came only for the jews. He said it also in the bible the jews are my sheep, i have come for them.
@Morpho32 Believe that The Quran is the last Book and He Himself have promised that this book he will preserve it till the end of time. The Quran is the a confirmation of the Books which comes before it, the Torah and the Gospel.
Torah was sent down for that specific group of nation at that time. Gospel was sent down for that specific group of nation at that time. But the Quran was sent down for that group of nation at that time and till the end of time. God have to preserve the Last Book.
@xphaisalx Yes cool story bro'. Always the same. Please change the music. Stop following your immas blindly. Can you tell me exactly which verses have been altered?
@Morpho32 first being.. The bible of today considered jesus begotten son of god. which Quran prohibits... Quran says God is one and unique, God has no son and daughter. This is the first and biggest corruption which has been added in Bible. Bible of today considered Prophet david committed a sinful crime, Quran prohibits that.
Muslim believes in all Bible and Torah (only in their original form). any verse of bible and torah that go against the Quran we considered corrupt. The reason we believe all these books were sent by God and they all had the same message and that was to worship God alone. The corruption of Bible is all in front of us.
@morpho32 5-116. And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Mary! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.
@xphaisalx So your only "proofs" that the Bible is corrupted is from the Quran? Ok so it doesn't mean anything to me. You say the Bible is corrupted, so please tell me exactly which verses in the Bible are corrupted. Don't quote me the Quran, I don't care about the Quran. Give me facts.
@xphaisalx Christians worship God alone also. We think Jesus is the Word and the Word of God is God. Also this is a mistake in the Quran when you say Christians worship Mary. We never worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us. And we don't worship Jesus and God, we think Jesus is God so we worship God.
@Morpho32.. What makes you think Jesus is God??? Why dont you think he was just a messenger (a prophet ) like other prophets who brought the same message to people that There is only one God, worship God alone. ?? i need details on why Jesus is considered a God not prophet??? (im not gonna quote any Quran verses since it doesnt matter to you. im just talk to you from the verses of bible)..
@xphaisalx "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." (John 1:1-2)
"I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 5:58)
"Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? (John 14:8-9)
Here are a couple of verses which do indeed show Bible corruption:
@Morpho32 002.079 - Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
@Morpho32 4-157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
@Morpho32 5-13. But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
@Morpho32 the GOSPEL AND INJEEL ARE mentioned in the Qur'an many times the books that God revealed to Jesus (Isa) these scriptures that were sent to Jesus by God before they were corrupted. the original Gospel and Injeel. Yes Allah mentions Mary (Maryam) and Jesus was strengthened with the holy spirit that is not trinity in explains how Allah made Jesus to perform miracles and speak from the cradle with Allah's will and permission. Not worshiping him or Mary. But Allah, God.
@Morpho32 Abraham and Ishmael Built the first House of Allah the Ka'bah in Mecca.
that is also mentioned in the bible. the bible has some true thing in it but still a lot of it has been changed arbitrarily by men that's not divine revelation. You know this stuff is common knowledge to most people even non-Muslims,
@isasooner5 Of course I know the Bible has been changed at some points. But I absolutely don't think the meaning changed. If some verses changed, it doesn't mean it all changed. A Christian can believe that Jesus was not God but not just a prophet either. Many friends think Jesus was the Word of God (as in John) without being God. But it doesn't mean they are muslims because there are many huge difference between Christianity's values and Islam's.
@Morpho32 if you know the bible has been changed throughout history how can you claim that is divine or the word of the almighty himself. There is too much confusion within the christian theology that exists today even among Christians themselves. some belief this, some belief that. Where as in Islam Every Muslim in the world beliefs and follows the exact same basic main fundamentals.Islam is a simple, logical religion. Allah says in Qur'an he made religion easy on us not hard.
@isasooner5 Like I said before, very few people today practice the original christian theology as it was in intended in the time of Jesus and before him. Their is so much paganism that exists in Christianity today and non-monotheistic practices have been implemented that don't have anything to do with religion that claims to be a monotheistic faith. worshiping any other than God himself or even along with God is not monotheism. Most christian don't follow Jesus practices at all.
@isasooner5 You're repeting yourself. We understood your point, that's fine. We are not monotheist, we don't know anything about God and you have the truth with the Quran while we have a book full of lies with the Bible. That's fine, it's clear now.
Now, can you tell me why God sent the Quran and not just the Gospels?
@Morpho32 b/c the Qur'an is just as Muhammad is the final and seal of messengers, the final and complete revelation form God. Unlike any other scripture Allah says in the Qur'an this book is a universal book not just for Muslims but for the whole of humanity and of all times. Why do you think these rabbis are saying Islam is the oldest religion and the religion of the future?
@isasooner5 As I showed below, Allah says in the Quran that the Gospel is guidance/light/true. It was the case when the Quran was written as He uses the present tense. But at that time, Christians were already believing that Jesus was crucified on the Cross which is something the Quran rejects. How come then? The Gospels were already mentioning the crucifixion of Jesus when the Quran was revealed but at the same time Allah said Gospel is correct. what's wrong ????
@Morpho32 U said gospels(Mathew,Mark,John,Luke) but Quran says Gospel(Injil of Jesus was guidance/light/true) not bible of unknown Authors but revelation sent down to J the Prophets/Messenger! Surah 3:3 -"He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming(Quran confirms) that which was (revealed) before it"! Allah say follow Quran which Confirms the truth that was there in the Torah n Gospel(the Originals) and the deviation/innovation n lies inserted in the scriptures!
where in the Quran Allah says that muslims have to follow the Bible. you cant find it even if u look for it for the rest of ur life.the only thing i can say for u is that jesus(pbuh) was muslim and he worshipped the almaighty God .and also check if u can find any sign (verse) in the bible shows that jesus(pbuh) said am God worship me. we do believe in jesus (pbuh) much more than u
@MrJawadwydad I gave the verse but it's not the Bible as theSblackbrun said. It's the Torah and Enjil of Jesus. Basically you have to follow the Torah then. Was the Torah falcified according to you?
Also there are many verses in the Bible that can say that Jesus is God but some other show the opposite. Everyone thinks different. But stop with your "we believe in Jesus more than you", just repeating what the youtube videos say, its ridiculous. You believe in Jesus in different fashion, that's it.
@MrJawadwydad The real Bible is nowhere to be found on planet Earth Jesus is our messiah and not yours my friend we Christians believe more in Jesus than Muslims, I live in a Muslim country called Qatar and I believe that the Islam religion is the one to follow but I shall not because I have been Christian my whole life and it is like the same exact religion but as I said the real Bible is nowhere to be found.
@Morpho32 here is s simple corruption for you , in the Bible Jesus is referred to as the son of God , but in the Quran Jesus is referred to as the son of Mary. I think we follow parts which do not contradict Islamic doctrine and the Old testament.
@Morpho32 the quran states the the original bible, torah, book of abraham, psalms of david are all true scriptures from GOD and a Muslim must believe this as well as GOD telling us in the quran that man changed these books for a measly price, yes the rabbi's and the priest changed the word of GOD and will be punished severly..GOD also states that the
QURAN is the last and final book sent to mankind and this will be protected by GOD until the day of judgemt, The QURAN is still in original fm
@Morpho32 the QURAN IS ORIGINAL FORM AND ALL THE OTHE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT, AND GOD CHOOSE THE SEMITIC LANGUAGUES TO REVEAL HIS MESSAGE AND THE QURAN IS STILL IN THAT FORM, AND IS MEMORIZED BY MILLIONS ACROSS THE WORLD..THIS IS TRULY A MIRACLE CONSIDERING I DO NOT KNOW ONE PERSON WHO HAS THE BIBLE OR TORAH MEMORIZED..
SEEK KNOWLEDGE AND REALIZED THAT GOD REVEALED THE EXACT SAME MESSAGE IN ALL HIS BOOKS, "THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT
ALLAH" AND FOLLEW THE MESSANGER, NOT KILL THEM OR TRY TO KILL THEM
@200nikesdeep Shooo!!!! go away you hater!! how can you insult this rabbi... he 's a good jew also.... I believe there is many good jew out there.... go serve your zionist secularism Lord...
@radhiya2006 this is the type of jew that needs to go into the oven to teach the jews a lesson this is the type of kike that dirty pig arabs would call a infidel if he was talking about arabs if this was a Muslim animal
Me thinks this "Rabbi" pulls out a prayer rug and sticks his patootie up in the air five times a day. Sorry, but, I just have a feeling that that is what he does. If he IS a Rabbi, he doesn't seem to realize that the Qur'an teaches the Muslims aren't to be friends of Christians and Jews, except if the Muslim "guards AGAINST them" (i.e. doesn't really mean to take them as friends).
@RammatRamzi You have to realize brother, that Christians and Jews are termed 'People of the Book' in the Qu'ran and as such, if they truly follow the ways of both the Torah and the Injil/Bible, they will indeed end up in Heaven as well, not just the Muslims.
Even though a good deal of the Torah and Injil gets Christians believing that the suffering of an innocent animal culminating in Jesus dying on the cross for the sins of the world, results in the Christian believing that to believe that gets them into Heaven and NOT pulling out a prayer rug?
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya).
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya).
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya).
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya or, lying for Allah).
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya, or "lying for Allah).
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya, or "lying for Allah).
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya, or "lying for Allah).
hahahaha! a RABBI who the koran calls a pig & ape and must be slaughtered agrees with ANYTHING that stupid book for idiots says is an actor. Only idiots believe this is real.hhahaha.wake up people. you cannot be that stupid.
@Pitttdog have u ever read d Qur'an n read d meaning? where does in Qur'an says Rabbi is pig & ape n must b slaughtered? u d one who fool cause u actually knows nothing n never make any research n just accepting everything that u think is relevant to your understanding. well hey, what the Rabbi says is right bout the faith. you the one who being stupid and ignorance.
@MsNajwa86 im not ignorant.You seem to be -apes & pigs look up verses7.166,2.65 & 5.60.There are numorous verses which show the jews as being cursed & condemned and that the muslims will slaughter them in sahih muslim & bukhari-mohomad himself said this. even your own koran tells you that youre a fool for being muslim in 33.72-.Youre not talking to a little child.Ive studied islam for over 8 years,hadith , koran and tafsir.I also speak arabic so you cant fool me
@Pitttdog further verse 9.29,5.51,9.30,4.160 etc etc-your allah hates teh jews.any muslim cleric will tell you this.The jewish torah has evidence dating back to 300bc that the text is unchanged worldwide,it has historical accuracy,geographical accruacy & has witnesses.The koran has zero witnesses,mohomad spoke to something he thought was an angel and not to God directly & contradicted the text before as well as itself.study the bible properly & u can see it easily.If not good luck to u
@Pitttdog The Bible was rewritten so many times in comparison to the Quran, with variants such as the King James Version, not to mention the Great Schism of Christianity into Byzantine (Orthodox) and Catholicism (Western Europe). In addition, with the whole "accuracy" part, we have to take everything in history with a grain of salt. So, if an ancient stone tablet said that the flying spaghetti monster existed, should we believe it? Give me a break. Ignorance sure is bliss for you fools
@Pitttdog it makes perfect sense Islam is the true original religion. Islam as we know it today, praying 5 times a day, fasting during Ramadan, pilgrimage to Mecca Hajj etc. was established by Prophet Muhammad by God's will and permission 1400 yrs ago. But the basic fundamental monotheistic belief of Muslim's THEIR IS NO GOD BUT GOD dates back to Adam, Abraham, Moses. Therefore Islam is the oldest religion.
@isasooner5 Original religion?really.before mohomad there is no recorded evidence of the word 'islam' ' muslim' or anything of such.Adam,Abraham & Moses were not islamic prophets.Thats absolute rubbish.The jews have manuscripts dating back to 300BC confirming the tora-wheres your equivilent?just bcs mohomad said so doesnt mean anything.The Kourach pagans used pray at the kaaba.allah was a pagan kourachi god.Mohomads father was called abdulla-you do know what that means dont u?
@Pitttdog Also Jesus never claimed divinity in the bible. No where in the bible or holy scriptures will you find Jesus telling his followers to worship Him. Nor will you find the term Trinity anywhere in the bible. very few people nowadays practice the original christian theology as God intended thousands of years ago. It has been changed and implemented with a bunch on pagan rituals and beliefs that you see the majority of Christians practicing today.
@Morpho32 don't you realize the absurdity of what you're saying? the bible can't be divine revelation of God many people agree a lot the text from the bible has to come from man.
So you're saying the ultimate supreme being who created the universe the heavens and the creator of Jesus has no power to judge on the day of judgement. INSANE thought process. can't you see the fallacies of the bible compared to the Qur'an. Christianity is a religion based mostly on blind faith not matter
@isasooner5 How illogical or contradictory towards proven science or common sense you follow the bible. where as the holy Qur'an is in perfect alignment with every proven scientific fact with any contradictions.That's the difference between Islam and Christianity in Islam we are encouraged and taught to think and question science, theology etc,, not just rely on blind faith, and logic that goes against basic common sense and basic proven science. Most Christians think just like you.
@isasooner5 they don't have explanations for what the bible says they follow it blindly. where as in the Qur'an is a universal book for the whole of humanity not just Muslims As God clearly states in the Qur'an. Also there is an explanation of common sense and logic for every thing God expresses in the Qur'an on every view point and every aspect. You cannot even remotely say that about the bible.
@isasooner5 You muslims are so funny with your videos on youtube. It becomes your only way to justify your Quran? Zakir Naik lied many times and I saw many videos of him. He speaks quickly and talks about different things in the same sentence so that people who listen to him don't have time to think. It's a well-known strategy of manipulation.
@Morpho32 show me in the bible where Jesus claims divinity and told his followers to worship him? you can't. show where is says the term trinity? it's not in the bible. The only part where it closely resembles trinity was thrown out thousands of years ago by Christians. We Muslims follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (Isa) more than the majority of Christians. Muslims Don't eat pork, swine or drink alcohol and majority of Christians do. why is that? Most christians say they love
@isasooner5 Jesus and don't follow hardly any of his teachings.My parents used to Christians long before I was born. I know how Christians think. Also Muslims pray like Jesus did. In the bible it says Jesus prayed with his head on the ground prostrating to his lord. Very few people practice the original christian theology as God intended. It has been changed, manipulated and added with all types of paganism, and rituals that don't have anything to do with the religion.
@isasooner5 Islam preaches pure monotheism the basic belief that there is no God or lord but the one true creator who created the universe, the heavens and the earth and only he deserves all the glory, praise and worship. Also We Muslims do belief in the original Gospel and injeel of Jesus before it was changed arbitrarily and falsely by different people like Paul. most Christians follow Paul's teachings more than Jesus. The basic belief of NO GOD BUT GOD dates back to Adam.
@isasooner5 About the Trinity, the Quran talks about the Father, the Mother and the Son. It is again something wrong in the Quran. Can you tell me why this mistake in the Quran? Jesus is the Verb of God as John said: "the Verb was with God and the Verb was God".
But this is not the only difference with Islam. I don't know why you just focus on this. There are many differences between Christians and Muslims in our behavior. It's not all about Trinity.
@isasooner5 Tell me one thing you don't understand in the Bible and I'll address it. You just don't do your research, you can't understand the Bible because you make no effort and don't want to make that effort because you're afraid to see the Truth.
@isasooner5 proven scientific facts in the Quran ? LOL I take one example: the universe expansion. This is not in the Quran, this is a wrong translation from the arabic. But even if it's true, it was already in the Bible hundreds years before. Read Job 9:8 which says that God expands the skies, way before the Quran says it. And at the time of Muhammed, some Jews and Christians were already thinking about the universe expansion theory, no miracle here, they lie to you.
@isasooner5 ALL you said is based on speculation and blind faith in what your imams say. There isn't any contradiction in the Gospels we, Christians, follow. And Jesus is the Truth. Also you as muslim should follow the Bible. If the Bible was already falcified at the time of the Quran, why your God said you have to follow the Bible? Huge contradiction here.
@Pitttdog Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.”
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra – “Read”, he replied, “I am not learned”.
@Pitttdog Mohammad doesn't say so God says so.Everything Muhammad pbuh gets is from God. not himself. The holy Qur'an is divine revelation from Allah to him through the angel Jabreel or Gabriel. Nur DOES NOT MEAN FIRE. so Ur saying shaitan Satan is NUR, he is made from fire. Nur means guiding light a spiritual light as well as physical light. Allah is ultimate Nur guiding light. Muhammad is nur anyone with knowledge is a form of Nur. You don't speak Quranic Arabic u r getting confused.
@isasooner5 You are a perfect example of the typical people who misinterpret the Qur'an and its words and meanings. taking things out of context. this is always going to be the case until people learn the Arabic language of the Qur'an not conversational Arabic. Arabic especially Qur'an Arabic is the richest, deepest most complex language in the world. there are many different meanings for one word. that's why people get so screwed up, twisted and confused when it comes to Qur'an
@isasooner5 I agree about Arabic. But this is also how you, muslims, can change the meaning of the true words. For example about the "constantly expanding the universe". In Arabic, this is not the meaning but this is how you interpret it and you added the "constantly". Actually this is just a copy of what is in the Bible (Job 9:8).
@Morpho32 simple. b/c in the original gospel and injeel Jesus was never crucified it was only made to look like it. that's were the bible you see today has deviated from the original Gospel and injeel. Just like Jesus never claimed divinity or told his followers to worship Him. you won't even find that in the bible.
@isasooner5Yes he did.He had NO witnesses.He NEVER spoke to God directly.He contradicted the torah & gospels before in the worst ways possible.He didnt even know if was an angel or devil in the cave at hira-his wife told him.Islam is based on what khadija decided.Nur means fire or light-it doesnt mean refelcted light like naik claims.Dont try to run from the topic.i doubt it.koranic arabic hahaha-who said there is such a thing.So u think bones are formed before flesh too in the womb?
@Pitttdog How could he have contradicted the Torah or other scriptures before him when he was AN ILLITERATE before Allah ordered him to READ IQRA. I've heard that argument before, not possible. Later on when Allah revealed the Qur'an to Him, Allah mentions the Torah, The Gospel and Injeel and confirmed them that came before Muhammad pbuh.
If he couldnt read or write-was he also a retard?Was he unable to make up stories for others to write for him?As for being told to read-God would have known he couldnt.He didnt give him the ability to read afterwards did he?its a contradiction.The gospel & torah are mainly foretelling of the coming of Christ, that He is God.Where does the koran state this?Where is salvation via the Grace of God in ur koran?Where did allah tell uthman to bind the koran & burn the rest?
@Pitttdog you just proved you have not researched Islam or read the Qur'an or life of Prophet Muhammad b/c u would've known he was an illiterate and Allah chose an illiterate man as his last a final messenger for that very reason. so the people w know that it was the truth, so they would think how could this illiterate man suddenly come to us and admonish us with this wisdom that's the miraculousness of him and his prophet hood. the Qur'an is after Christ so how can it foretell?
@isasooner5 Allah informs Muhammad pbuh of the torah, Gospel, injil, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and confirms all that came before him and the Qur'an You really need to go a read the Qur'an. these things are stated plain as day.
i am not going to debate with anymore.Its pretty clear you are ill researched on your own koran as well as know nothing of the bible. I have studied hadith(many ridiculously stupid stories), the koran and the different tafsirs.And i have done it open mindedly allowing the text to speak for itself-IN ARABIC as well.It is deficient and false.I look for things being confirmed not say'well how could this or that have happened'.I look for'This is how it happened'.U should do the same
@Pitttdog Go and watch this debate on you tube Debate: Dr. Zakir Naik vs. Dr William Campbell - The Quran and the Bible in the Light of Science. then comeback and comment intelligently. Watch in it's ENTIRETY.
@isasooner5 i have seen it.I have checked Naiks claims of science in the koran and its all rubbish.The koran claims embriology where clay becomes fluid, then a lump then bones then clothed in lahem(flesh).a 12 yr old knows bones form AFTER the flesh,not the other way around.The moon 'reflected light' or "nour" which means fire & can sometimes be called light-theres nowhere where it says reflected light.I speak arabic.I know.Its all rubbish.Let him debate James White or Sami shamoun
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.”
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra – “Read”, he replied, “I am not learned”.
every one here knows that islam is the truth but they don't want to convert they want to play and want to win the heaven easily , poor people allah created u to test u as he tested addam wakeup, read quraan before you pass away read the meaning use your mind for a few minutes . how could you believe in three gods how could u say 3=1 come on 1=1 there is one god only this is your chance to think .peace
@rshero123 Quran 52:17-24,4:57,76:12-21,55:46-76,and 47:15say - in Islamic heaven Muslims will get many servants, meat, delicious fruits, exquisite wines and many houris for sex. Houri means beautiful maidens who awaits for muslims in. They would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor go to toilet !!! Houris will be "eternally young"," their entire body will remain hairless except the eyebrows and the head".They will always have SWEELLING boobs.
I like to see all religious people kill each other with their mindless holy wars. It will help humanity by filtering out all the idiots from the gene pool, and it will resolve all the over-population issues.
I don't understand how people can have so much hate in their hearts for their fellow man. We are all one people, one humanity in the eyes of the one God of all creation. Whether you like it or not we all have the same origin and to Him we will all return.
US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has come out and blamed the pro-Israel Lobby in America (AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, etc) for ruining her political career. While in congress she refused to sign the pro-Israel pledge and took a pro-Palestinian stance. Because of this, McKinney said “war was declared” on her by the Jewish lobby. In 2009 she told TIU's Ognir that “more than 99% of Congress work for Pro Zionist Israeli interests.”
BS! Muhammad was a violent Evil now dead Murderer! Islam/Quran is corrupt! Jesus/Peace/Healed/Blessed/Salvation/God! All Muslims who became Christians are free of abuse/misery! Islam leaders are killing you! Christians Love You! Please accept Jesus Christ as your Savior! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Be free of Islam lies! Visit cbn.com /podcast
Oh fuck that shyt there was never Palestine and there will never be one.It was people from egypy syria lebanon and jordan that their countries didnt want to have them back and told them to act like thet are poor and got diminished by israel.Muslims are 2B people have 30 countries+ and keep going every fucking place and spread their 999 children... their moms are used as whores that have 90 children and the fathers are killing people with bombs lol muslims pls stay only in Asia dont come EU & US!
@do0odi75 arabs didnt came from europe lol u cam from fucking iran and tunis and egypt and lebanon andu all the same shyt 2b of people that have nothing to eat drink and ur governments take everything from u and kill...LOOK AROUND U, ASAD KILLS INNOCENT PEPOPLE IN LEBANON, EVERYDAY PEOPLE GET KILLED BY THE SOLDIER IN TUNIS,EGYPT AND SYRIA. R U ALL DUMB ASSES?LOOK AROUND U THEY KILL UR PEOPLE NOT MINE I DONT CARE I BLESS UR GOVERNMENT EVERDAY SO THEY WILL KEEP KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE LIK WHORES
to all thick heaed here,,, moses peace upon him and jesus peace up on him and mohamed peace upon him are the same to us muslims and we all follow thier teachings,, and if we dont then we r not muslims
christianshitty is just another common human worship cult. like countless others who say our human is god. the most happy thing in world is knowing xtians will go to hell that is pure justice, no1 deserves hell more than these pagan swine
mrlogicalman1 5 hours ago
@mrlogicalman1 Also you are not to worship Jesus, you are to worship God. He sent Jesus though as a sacrifice for Our sins So that we can be cleansed to be with him in heaven.
yuppa396 52 minutes ago
The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
yuppa396 2 days ago
@yuppa396 Thats from a recent article i found. Not my words at all. Archelogy scientist found the evidence and presented it.I simply posted it.
yuppa396 2 days ago
I'm from the year 2045...There's no god, and a lack of toilette paper.
p.s. please send tp :)
DirtyPersianGuy 5 days ago
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I grew up, and even today live among Muslims
My advice-- never, never, NEVER trust these treacherous rascals
They are evil as the Koran and that original rascal called Mohdog
Jews,Christians, Hindus and Sikhs suffered in a negative way from these Devil worshippers
jerry3331000 1 week ago
Muslims accept Jesus(Hazrat Isa), we believe he will come back to this world, and we will follow him. Hopefully you will to.
Whats in a label? Muslim or Christian. Its more important what you believe in.
One God. The Messengers, Believe in Life after Death.
FatalFistScuMM1 1 week ago
@FatalFistScuMM1 Dr. Kenneth Cragg, former editor of the prestigious scholarly journal Muslim World and an outstanding modern Western Islamic scholar, whose works were generally published by Oxford University, comments: " The name Allah is also evident in archaeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia" (The Call of the Minaret, New York: OUP, 1956, p.31)
Please explain how thats true if Muhammed was supposed to have been the one he talked to why would it be known before islam?
yuppa396 2 days ago
@yuppa396
because Allah is everliving !
Islam is not a new religion as most people believe, it was the way of life of all prophets from Adam to Noah, Jacob Moses David, Jesus, & Muhammad (Peace be upon them all) and all those who came between them. All of them taught to believe in one God alone, no partners,no wives daughters or sons !
Therefore it is not surprising to find the name Allah in pre-Islamic history, including christian, jewish and history that predates them.
muneebsg 1 day ago
@muneebsg The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel.
yuppa396 1 day ago
@yuppa396 "The Quraysh tribe into which Mohammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah. "The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god"
yuppa396 1 day ago
@yuppa396
saying something without evidences is not worth a penny, i hope you can support your argument based on evidences. How is Islam a moon-god religion, what is the archaeological evidence you talk about. I hope you do a little study before saying something like the ignorant masses.
muneebsg 19 hours ago
@muneebsg w w w .nccg.org / islam / Islam01-Allah.h t m l
I spaced it out. thats one of the places i got some of the quotes based on researched material. It says Arcahologist found evidence to what i was speaking of.
yuppa396 18 hours ago
@yuppa396
i said evidences, that is just another website, where is the archaeological prof? where is the study, there are no references on the website.
Let me inform you there are archaeological evidences contrary to what you are saying, and it has references, to the studies conducted and the authors.
w w w . isl a mic-aware n ess . org / Qu ran/S ourc es/ All ah/ moo ngo d .h t m l
I hope you do a little research before basing your ideas on any half baked ideas people tell you.
muneebsg 7 hours ago
@yuppa396
The bases of any religion is belief, belief is something to do with oneself, it is in the "heart".It is not possible for you to tell me what we believe, because for that you will have to open my heart and have a look inside first.
[10:5]
It is He who made the sun a shining light and the moon a derived light and determined for it phases - that you may know the number of years and account [of time]. Allah has not created this except in truth. He details the signs for a people who know.
muneebsg 7 hours ago
@muneebsg Thanks for the link. Ill go look at it as you asked. Its hard to ge tto the truth sometimes sorting through all the information out there.The site i went to really needs to re do it apparently because it seems google does not find those refrences. @mrlogicalman1 Le tme ask a moment. IF GOD is all powerful and able to make the earth and universe,is it really that much a stretch to think he split of a part of himself to walk among the people he created for a bit?
yuppa396 57 minutes ago
@yuppa396
huh? Why would it not be known before Islam? Do you not understand that since Prophet Adam, the message of God has been the same. So Ofc Allah, will come. Do remember that Abraham had two sons. And Ibrahim/Abraham visited Makkah, and rebuilt the Holy Kabbah. And naturally in a family, the religion of Ibrahim was followed, and thus the " The name Allah is also evident in archaeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia"
FatalFistScuMM1 21 hours ago
@yuppa396
Prophet Ibrahim had two sons. One line led to Prophets that the jews got. The other led to our Prophet. The Word Allah would Ofc be carried on within the family, and followers. And because we know that Prophet Ibrahim visited Makkah, we can say that from that time onwards. It can be expected to find the word Allah in archaeological and literary remains of pre-Islamic Arabia. Our book narrates everything. Maybe give it a read, instead of terming it "Moon-god" we do not worship the moon
FatalFistScuMM1 21 hours ago
@Morpho32
As for John1:1, this theory came from Greek philosophy which was attributed to the bible. it became a technical term in philosophy, beginning with Heraclitus (ca. 535--475 BC)
salkas47 2 weeks ago
Where is the line drawn?
poweris4allah 2 weeks ago
Morpho you confused me but its seems like your confused to you stated that your monothisitic religion worships God ALONE but also worship his son Jesus pbuh because he spoke gods words and the word of god is god so he is god and so is his mother because obviously humans do not give birth to gods then wouldn't this be worshiping the creation and not the creator. Modern Christianity sounds like paganism worshiping god through his creation. Is god inadicute of worship alone? If so then where is th
poweris4allah 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 Cont'd from below)....
How then did the morning and evening come to pass ? According toGenesis 1:12 Earth brings forth it's grass, and herbs, yielding seeds and fruit trees. But Still NO SUN Created !
Scientific Contradiction ; )
salkas47 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 Lets go with your primordial light theory for arguments sake. How then is time measured ? The 3 principals of measuring time are: rotational time, dynamic time and atomic time. Only possible principal for measuring time at the time of the big bang is Rotational time which relies on the movements of the earth around it's axis. Time is Not measured by Primordial light.
salkas47 2 weeks ago
If Jesus(pbuh) is G-D and he was willing to die for the sins of mankind then to whom does he cry out to when he's alleged crucifixion on the cross ? When he screams out "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
When you pronounce 'Eloi' it sounds a lot like 'Allah'
salkas47 2 weeks ago
@salkas47 So you decide. Either the verse means the sun was already created before the light could be visible (and so it contradicts your message) or the Bible says there was light before the creation of the sun and thus it would mean it's a scientific miracle in the Bible.
You decide. There is no other choice.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32
If the bible authors whom every single one of the authors of the books of the bible are UNKNOWN were inspired by G-D, then does ALMIGHTY G-D who is the Creator of the heavens and the earth make mistakes ?
salkas47 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32
You only need to open the bible to the first verses to find your contradiction. When God is talking about the creation of the heavens and the earth:
GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.
salkas47 2 weeks ago
@salkas47 You're proving you don't know anything about science. Search for "primordial light". There was light before the creation of the sun when there was the big bang. Look at the NASA website if you want a verified source.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
@salkas47 And even if you didn't know about primordial light, the verse in the Bible could mean that the sun what already created but its light was not visible to the earth.
"And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth:" (GE 1:15)
It's not said that the "sun wasn't created untile the fourth day" as you say. You're interpreting this verse as you wish to that you can criticize the Bible.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
Verily,We did send down the Taurat [to Moses],therein was guidance and light,by which the Prophets,who submitted themselves to Allah's Will, judged the Jews.And the rabbis and the priests [too judged the Jews by the Taurat after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Book,and they were witnesses thereto.Therefore fear not men but fear Me (O Jews) and sell not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed,such are the Kafirun
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
Always the same story. Save your time, don't write it again and again... The problem with muslims is that they see "miracles" everywhere. There's NO miracle at all in that people momorize the Quran. They spend their life doing this. Some people know the Bible by heart too but you don't look for them. To be more credible, stop finding "miracles" everywhere and live your faith, that's it. Stop trying to live your faith through other people. Pray in peace.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
Allah saved Jesus, but did not save Muhamamd, A LIAR.
Quran 69:43-56
(This is) a Message sent down from the Lord of the Worlds, if the apostle were to INVENT ANY SAYINGS in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, Then We would have cut from him the AORTA.
Bukhari, 5:59:713 Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my AORTA is being cut from that poison."
mozlemmeah 2 weeks ago
Look... The jews is famous in the qur'an and in the bible... so lets draw a line. God just want to test the jews between righteous jews and devil worship jews so God created religion OUT SIDE the jewish family tree, its called Islam. Abraham has the correct faith... and it is split to the jews and the arabs (ishaq and Ishmael). SIMPLE
tititpauskiut 2 weeks ago
Islam will always prevail. The numbers don't lie
ZeEpUnTz 2 weeks ago
Abraham was a jew PERIOD!!!
Oshyrath 3 weeks ago
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Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5
"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." (John 8:58)
Can you tell me why Allah in the Quran says that muslims have to follow the Bible if the Bible was already "corrupted"? Because according to muslims, it was already corrupted several years before the Quran so why Allah said you have to read it?
Morpho32 1 month ago
@Morpho32 where in the Quran did you find that Allah says that muslims have to follow the Bible?! please show me the verse
theSblackburn 1 month ago 9
@theSblackburn Surah 5:44 , Surah 5:46 , Surah 3:3
These three confirm that the Bible is true and can be taken as true. But according to muslims, the Bible was already corrupted at that time and there's no mention about that in the Quran here. Why?
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 Surah 3:3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. (3) Aforetime, for a guidance to mankind; and hath revealed the Criterion of right and wrong.
Surah 5:44 Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews,.. (see next comment)
theSblackburn 4 weeks ago
@theSblackburn Quran stating that These books were sent by Allah to them (jews), We all muslims believe that Bible and Torah in their orginal form are the word of God. but we dont believe in the corrupt version of these books which is present today.
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 ...and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.
So in the verses you mentioned Allah doesn't say that muslims have to follow the Bible, but he tells us that he revealed before the Quran, other books to other prophets,
theSblackburn 4 weeks ago
@theSblackburn So why God didn't say the Bible is corrupted if it was? In 5:44, Allah says He revealed the Bible wherein IS guidance and a light. The tense is present, He didn't say "WAS guidance...". So at the time of the Quran, Allah says you can read the Bible as it's a light. So either it was corrupted and the Quran is not accurate or it was not corrupted but then why God would have sent the Quran if the Bible was true/light/guidance?
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 Allah says "We DID reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light, ..." so the torah or the Injil the book revealed to Jesus (not the bible) are guidance and light as they was revealed.
theSblackburn 4 weeks ago
@theSblackburn Yes the Injil if you prefer, it's even better, this is what we trust the most. So Allah says he did reveal it and it IS true/guidance/light. The Gospels (Injils) have many references to the Old Testament and the "zabur".
But whether it is the Bible or just Torah/Injil, Allah used the present tense. At the time of the Quran, Allah said the Injil was correct. So was it corrupted at that time or not? If yes, why Allah said that. If no, why the Quran?
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 All praises to Allah who made hearts open to wanting to know more.
God has sent down the last Revelation, the Last prophet and the Seal of all Prophets. Also means after this last revelation from God there will be no more coming and no more prophets coming.
Whats next to come is the end of the world. And we will be brought back to Him on Judgement day.
Hovers82 3 weeks ago
@Morpho32 It was the first ever Taurat that could be considered as light/guidance. And those books can still be considered as guidance. HOWEVER, the original books of Taurat (not corrupted by humans) have already been destroyed through the years. So yes, the ORIGINAL can be followed, but it's no longer around.
zft51994 3 weeks ago
@Morpho32 - The bible says no to wine yet you drink it, it says no to the meat of pig yet you eat it, it says no to women priests yet u have them, it says no to gay marriage yet it happens in your churches,
not that u disobeyed the original bible but u changed it to suit your needs. so it is corrupted. the bible wasnt there when Jesus AS was around. it came afterwards. it is not the word of god nor in the bible does it say that it is the law or word of god.
1salahudin 2 days ago
@Morpho32 - The Quran says the jews & christians made legal what was illegal and illegal what was legal. the bible the torah etc were so when the Quran was revealed the laws were similar and the religion was the same as the religion of Abraham AS so everyone was to follow Muhammad PBUH & the Quran & the Quran says when you are presented with the book i.e christians, jews you thrust it behind your back as to not wanting to believe.
1salahudin 2 days ago
@Morpho32 - your own priests etc have never won a debate against a Muslim scholar as the Quran is the truth. It says in the Quran argue with them nicely and with respect & the book i.e. knowledge and we do SubhanAllah and we the Muslims have never lost today as the truth cannot be defeated. only in the last couple of years attacks and lies and slander have been spread against Muslims and the final true Messenger Muhammad PBUH as there is no other way to defeat the truth ...
1salahudin 2 days ago
@Morpho32 - The original bible mentions on the last page LA ILAHA ILALA - NO GOD BUT ALLAH
Even Jesus PBUH on ther cross b4 he was taken back to the heavens by Allah shouted out ILLAI ILLAI which in aramaic is Allah ....
Judaism, Christianity etc are all Islam (submission to Allah) Jesus never came with christianity the romans called him christ as it was the new thing to be a part of. He came only for the jews. He said it also in the bible the jews are my sheep, i have come for them.
1salahudin 2 days ago
@Morpho32 Believe that The Quran is the last Book and He Himself have promised that this book he will preserve it till the end of time. The Quran is the a confirmation of the Books which comes before it, the Torah and the Gospel.
Torah was sent down for that specific group of nation at that time. Gospel was sent down for that specific group of nation at that time. But the Quran was sent down for that group of nation at that time and till the end of time. God have to preserve the Last Book.
Hovers82 3 weeks ago
@Morpho32 Quran confirms the bible and torah had been altered..
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@xphaisalx Yes cool story bro'. Always the same. Please change the music. Stop following your immas blindly. Can you tell me exactly which verses have been altered?
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 first being.. The bible of today considered jesus begotten son of god. which Quran prohibits... Quran says God is one and unique, God has no son and daughter. This is the first and biggest corruption which has been added in Bible. Bible of today considered Prophet david committed a sinful crime, Quran prohibits that.
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
Muslim believes in all Bible and Torah (only in their original form). any verse of bible and torah that go against the Quran we considered corrupt. The reason we believe all these books were sent by God and they all had the same message and that was to worship God alone. The corruption of Bible is all in front of us.
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@morpho32 5-116. And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Mary! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@xphaisalx So your only "proofs" that the Bible is corrupted is from the Quran? Ok so it doesn't mean anything to me. You say the Bible is corrupted, so please tell me exactly which verses in the Bible are corrupted. Don't quote me the Quran, I don't care about the Quran. Give me facts.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
@xphaisalx Christians worship God alone also. We think Jesus is the Word and the Word of God is God. Also this is a mistake in the Quran when you say Christians worship Mary. We never worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us. And we don't worship Jesus and God, we think Jesus is God so we worship God.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32.. What makes you think Jesus is God??? Why dont you think he was just a messenger (a prophet ) like other prophets who brought the same message to people that There is only one God, worship God alone. ?? i need details on why Jesus is considered a God not prophet??? (im not gonna quote any Quran verses since it doesnt matter to you. im just talk to you from the verses of bible)..
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@xphaisalx "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." (John 1:1-2)
"I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 5:58)
"Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? (John 14:8-9)
And many other verses.
Morpho32 2 weeks ago
Here are a couple of verses which do indeed show Bible corruption:
@Morpho32 002.079 - Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 4-157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 5-13. But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
xphaisalx 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 the GOSPEL AND INJEEL ARE mentioned in the Qur'an many times the books that God revealed to Jesus (Isa) these scriptures that were sent to Jesus by God before they were corrupted. the original Gospel and Injeel. Yes Allah mentions Mary (Maryam) and Jesus was strengthened with the holy spirit that is not trinity in explains how Allah made Jesus to perform miracles and speak from the cradle with Allah's will and permission. Not worshiping him or Mary. But Allah, God.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 Abraham and Ishmael Built the first House of Allah the Ka'bah in Mecca.
that is also mentioned in the bible. the bible has some true thing in it but still a lot of it has been changed arbitrarily by men that's not divine revelation. You know this stuff is common knowledge to most people even non-Muslims,
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 Of course I know the Bible has been changed at some points. But I absolutely don't think the meaning changed. If some verses changed, it doesn't mean it all changed. A Christian can believe that Jesus was not God but not just a prophet either. Many friends think Jesus was the Word of God (as in John) without being God. But it doesn't mean they are muslims because there are many huge difference between Christianity's values and Islam's.
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 if you know the bible has been changed throughout history how can you claim that is divine or the word of the almighty himself. There is too much confusion within the christian theology that exists today even among Christians themselves. some belief this, some belief that. Where as in Islam Every Muslim in the world beliefs and follows the exact same basic main fundamentals.Islam is a simple, logical religion. Allah says in Qur'an he made religion easy on us not hard.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 Like I said before, very few people today practice the original christian theology as it was in intended in the time of Jesus and before him. Their is so much paganism that exists in Christianity today and non-monotheistic practices have been implemented that don't have anything to do with religion that claims to be a monotheistic faith. worshiping any other than God himself or even along with God is not monotheism. Most christian don't follow Jesus practices at all.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 You're repeting yourself. We understood your point, that's fine. We are not monotheist, we don't know anything about God and you have the truth with the Quran while we have a book full of lies with the Bible. That's fine, it's clear now.
Now, can you tell me why God sent the Quran and not just the Gospels?
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 b/c the Qur'an is just as Muhammad is the final and seal of messengers, the final and complete revelation form God. Unlike any other scripture Allah says in the Qur'an this book is a universal book not just for Muslims but for the whole of humanity and of all times. Why do you think these rabbis are saying Islam is the oldest religion and the religion of the future?
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 As I showed below, Allah says in the Quran that the Gospel is guidance/light/true. It was the case when the Quran was written as He uses the present tense. But at that time, Christians were already believing that Jesus was crucified on the Cross which is something the Quran rejects. How come then? The Gospels were already mentioning the crucifixion of Jesus when the Quran was revealed but at the same time Allah said Gospel is correct. what's wrong ????
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 U said gospels(Mathew,Mark,John,Luke) but Quran says Gospel(Injil of Jesus was guidance/light/true) not bible of unknown Authors but revelation sent down to J the Prophets/Messenger! Surah 3:3 -"He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming(Quran confirms) that which was (revealed) before it"! Allah say follow Quran which Confirms the truth that was there in the Torah n Gospel(the Originals) and the deviation/innovation n lies inserted in the scriptures!
moeazysgc 4 weeks ago
where in the Quran Allah says that muslims have to follow the Bible. you cant find it even if u look for it for the rest of ur life.the only thing i can say for u is that jesus(pbuh) was muslim and he worshipped the almaighty God .and also check if u can find any sign (verse) in the bible shows that jesus(pbuh) said am God worship me. we do believe in jesus (pbuh) much more than u
MrJawadwydad 4 weeks ago
@MrJawadwydad I gave the verse but it's not the Bible as theSblackbrun said. It's the Torah and Enjil of Jesus. Basically you have to follow the Torah then. Was the Torah falcified according to you?
Also there are many verses in the Bible that can say that Jesus is God but some other show the opposite. Everyone thinks different. But stop with your "we believe in Jesus more than you", just repeating what the youtube videos say, its ridiculous. You believe in Jesus in different fashion, that's it.
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@MrJawadwydad The real Bible is nowhere to be found on planet Earth Jesus is our messiah and not yours my friend we Christians believe more in Jesus than Muslims, I live in a Muslim country called Qatar and I believe that the Islam religion is the one to follow but I shall not because I have been Christian my whole life and it is like the same exact religion but as I said the real Bible is nowhere to be found.
DrunksModzocom 3 weeks ago
@Morpho32 what the fuck are you talking about ???
nourddinexfx 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 here is s simple corruption for you , in the Bible Jesus is referred to as the son of God , but in the Quran Jesus is referred to as the son of Mary. I think we follow parts which do not contradict Islamic doctrine and the Old testament.
arcz10 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 the quran states the the original bible, torah, book of abraham, psalms of david are all true scriptures from GOD and a Muslim must believe this as well as GOD telling us in the quran that man changed these books for a measly price, yes the rabbi's and the priest changed the word of GOD and will be punished severly..GOD also states that the
QURAN is the last and final book sent to mankind and this will be protected by GOD until the day of judgemt, The QURAN is still in original fm
GeorgeWashingtnISLAM 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 the QURAN IS ORIGINAL FORM AND ALL THE OTHE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT, AND GOD CHOOSE THE SEMITIC LANGUAGUES TO REVEAL HIS MESSAGE AND THE QURAN IS STILL IN THAT FORM, AND IS MEMORIZED BY MILLIONS ACROSS THE WORLD..THIS IS TRULY A MIRACLE CONSIDERING I DO NOT KNOW ONE PERSON WHO HAS THE BIBLE OR TORAH MEMORIZED..
SEEK KNOWLEDGE AND REALIZED THAT GOD REVEALED THE EXACT SAME MESSAGE IN ALL HIS BOOKS, "THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT
ALLAH" AND FOLLEW THE MESSANGER, NOT KILL THEM OR TRY TO KILL THEM
GeorgeWashingtnISLAM 2 weeks ago
@Morpho32 that's not true
god never said to muslims to follow the twisted bible
Egyptianknight24 1 week ago
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idiots sharia is satanic
TheMacchiaVeli 1 month ago
hani adnan hoca sormamis ''beni seviyon mu deyi'' buda sari bununda saci uzun haa dekoltesi yok ondan heral :)))
begdaj 1 month ago
crazy old jew bastard
200nikesdeep 1 month ago
@200nikesdeep Shooo!!!! go away you hater!! how can you insult this rabbi... he 's a good jew also.... I believe there is many good jew out there.... go serve your zionist secularism Lord...
radhiya2006 1 month ago
@radhiya2006 this is the type of jew that needs to go into the oven to teach the jews a lesson this is the type of kike that dirty pig arabs would call a infidel if he was talking about arabs if this was a Muslim animal
200nikesdeep 1 month ago
Me thinks this "Rabbi" pulls out a prayer rug and sticks his patootie up in the air five times a day. Sorry, but, I just have a feeling that that is what he does. If he IS a Rabbi, he doesn't seem to realize that the Qur'an teaches the Muslims aren't to be friends of Christians and Jews, except if the Muslim "guards AGAINST them" (i.e. doesn't really mean to take them as friends).
RammatRamzi 1 month ago
@RammatRamzi You have to realize brother, that Christians and Jews are termed 'People of the Book' in the Qu'ran and as such, if they truly follow the ways of both the Torah and the Injil/Bible, they will indeed end up in Heaven as well, not just the Muslims.
wowisoego 1 month ago
@wowisoego
Even though a good deal of the Torah and Injil gets Christians believing that the suffering of an innocent animal culminating in Jesus dying on the cross for the sins of the world, results in the Christian believing that to believe that gets them into Heaven and NOT pulling out a prayer rug?
RammatRamzi 1 month ago
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Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya).
DragonDriver100 1 month ago
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DragonDriver100 1 month ago
Accordiing to Qur'an 5:51, Muslims aren't to take Jews and Christians as friends. As a matter of fact, in Qur'an 3:28, the ONLY way a Muslim can be friends of Jews and Christians, is if that Muslim "guards AGAINST" them. Which sounds like they can ACT like they are friends, but, not really mean it (al taqqiya, or "lying for Allah).
DragonDriver100 1 month ago
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
A JEW says that a JEW HATING RELIGION was that of the HEBREW prophets.
What a MORON !
Excaliburxxxxxx 1 month ago
More people covert to Islam everyday than other religions which is silly unless it actually made sense...look it up just my 2 cents
shushko69 1 month ago
hahahaha! a RABBI who the koran calls a pig & ape and must be slaughtered agrees with ANYTHING that stupid book for idiots says is an actor. Only idiots believe this is real.hhahaha.wake up people. you cannot be that stupid.
Pitttdog 1 month ago
@Pitttdog have u ever read d Qur'an n read d meaning? where does in Qur'an says Rabbi is pig & ape n must b slaughtered? u d one who fool cause u actually knows nothing n never make any research n just accepting everything that u think is relevant to your understanding. well hey, what the Rabbi says is right bout the faith. you the one who being stupid and ignorance.
MsNajwa86 1 month ago
@MsNajwa86 im not ignorant.You seem to be -apes & pigs look up verses7.166,2.65 & 5.60.There are numorous verses which show the jews as being cursed & condemned and that the muslims will slaughter them in sahih muslim & bukhari-mohomad himself said this. even your own koran tells you that youre a fool for being muslim in 33.72-.Youre not talking to a little child.Ive studied islam for over 8 years,hadith , koran and tafsir.I also speak arabic so you cant fool me
Pitttdog 1 month ago
@Pitttdog further verse 9.29,5.51,9.30,4.160 etc etc-your allah hates teh jews.any muslim cleric will tell you this.The jewish torah has evidence dating back to 300bc that the text is unchanged worldwide,it has historical accuracy,geographical accruacy & has witnesses.The koran has zero witnesses,mohomad spoke to something he thought was an angel and not to God directly & contradicted the text before as well as itself.study the bible properly & u can see it easily.If not good luck to u
Pitttdog 1 month ago 2
@Pitttdog The Bible was rewritten so many times in comparison to the Quran, with variants such as the King James Version, not to mention the Great Schism of Christianity into Byzantine (Orthodox) and Catholicism (Western Europe). In addition, with the whole "accuracy" part, we have to take everything in history with a grain of salt. So, if an ancient stone tablet said that the flying spaghetti monster existed, should we believe it? Give me a break. Ignorance sure is bliss for you fools
iPledgeNoAllegiance 1 month ago
@iPledgeNoAllegiance again ignoring FACTS seems to be your only out.let me repeat as it seems it hasnt sunk in.
1.No one witnessed ANY'revelations mohomahd had.
2.Mohomad Never compiled these'revelations'Many were lost-goat ate some.
3.Uthman under no authority did.In his own order,with no instruction then burned the 7 other versions(all in hadith)
4.It contradicts itself & changes laws in the SAME book.
Dead Sea Scrolls-irrefutable current tangible evidence for accuracy.
Pitttdog 1 month ago
@Pitttdog it makes perfect sense Islam is the true original religion. Islam as we know it today, praying 5 times a day, fasting during Ramadan, pilgrimage to Mecca Hajj etc. was established by Prophet Muhammad by God's will and permission 1400 yrs ago. But the basic fundamental monotheistic belief of Muslim's THEIR IS NO GOD BUT GOD dates back to Adam, Abraham, Moses. Therefore Islam is the oldest religion.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 Original religion?really.before mohomad there is no recorded evidence of the word 'islam' ' muslim' or anything of such.Adam,Abraham & Moses were not islamic prophets.Thats absolute rubbish.The jews have manuscripts dating back to 300BC confirming the tora-wheres your equivilent?just bcs mohomad said so doesnt mean anything.The Kourach pagans used pray at the kaaba.allah was a pagan kourachi god.Mohomads father was called abdulla-you do know what that means dont u?
Pitttdog 4 weeks ago
@Pitttdog Also Jesus never claimed divinity in the bible. No where in the bible or holy scriptures will you find Jesus telling his followers to worship Him. Nor will you find the term Trinity anywhere in the bible. very few people nowadays practice the original christian theology as God intended thousands of years ago. It has been changed and implemented with a bunch on pagan rituals and beliefs that you see the majority of Christians practicing today.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 Jesus is the one who will judge you.
"Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son," (John 5:22)
Morpho32 1 month ago
@Morpho32 don't you realize the absurdity of what you're saying? the bible can't be divine revelation of God many people agree a lot the text from the bible has to come from man.
So you're saying the ultimate supreme being who created the universe the heavens and the creator of Jesus has no power to judge on the day of judgement. INSANE thought process. can't you see the fallacies of the bible compared to the Qur'an. Christianity is a religion based mostly on blind faith not matter
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 How illogical or contradictory towards proven science or common sense you follow the bible. where as the holy Qur'an is in perfect alignment with every proven scientific fact with any contradictions.That's the difference between Islam and Christianity in Islam we are encouraged and taught to think and question science, theology etc,, not just rely on blind faith, and logic that goes against basic common sense and basic proven science. Most Christians think just like you.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 they don't have explanations for what the bible says they follow it blindly. where as in the Qur'an is a universal book for the whole of humanity not just Muslims As God clearly states in the Qur'an. Also there is an explanation of common sense and logic for every thing God expresses in the Qur'an on every view point and every aspect. You cannot even remotely say that about the bible.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 watch this debate on you tube then comment back.
Debate: Dr. Zakir Naik vs. Dr William Campbell - The Quran and the Bible in the Light of Science
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 You muslims are so funny with your videos on youtube. It becomes your only way to justify your Quran? Zakir Naik lied many times and I saw many videos of him. He speaks quickly and talks about different things in the same sentence so that people who listen to him don't have time to think. It's a well-known strategy of manipulation.
Morpho32 1 month ago
@Morpho32 show me in the bible where Jesus claims divinity and told his followers to worship him? you can't. show where is says the term trinity? it's not in the bible. The only part where it closely resembles trinity was thrown out thousands of years ago by Christians. We Muslims follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (Isa) more than the majority of Christians. Muslims Don't eat pork, swine or drink alcohol and majority of Christians do. why is that? Most christians say they love
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 Jesus and don't follow hardly any of his teachings.My parents used to Christians long before I was born. I know how Christians think. Also Muslims pray like Jesus did. In the bible it says Jesus prayed with his head on the ground prostrating to his lord. Very few people practice the original christian theology as God intended. It has been changed, manipulated and added with all types of paganism, and rituals that don't have anything to do with the religion.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 Islam preaches pure monotheism the basic belief that there is no God or lord but the one true creator who created the universe, the heavens and the earth and only he deserves all the glory, praise and worship. Also We Muslims do belief in the original Gospel and injeel of Jesus before it was changed arbitrarily and falsely by different people like Paul. most Christians follow Paul's teachings more than Jesus. The basic belief of NO GOD BUT GOD dates back to Adam.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 About the Trinity, the Quran talks about the Father, the Mother and the Son. It is again something wrong in the Quran. Can you tell me why this mistake in the Quran? Jesus is the Verb of God as John said: "the Verb was with God and the Verb was God".
But this is not the only difference with Islam. I don't know why you just focus on this. There are many differences between Christians and Muslims in our behavior. It's not all about Trinity.
Morpho32 1 month ago
@isasooner5 Tell me one thing you don't understand in the Bible and I'll address it. You just don't do your research, you can't understand the Bible because you make no effort and don't want to make that effort because you're afraid to see the Truth.
Morpho32 1 month ago
@isasooner5 proven scientific facts in the Quran ? LOL I take one example: the universe expansion. This is not in the Quran, this is a wrong translation from the arabic. But even if it's true, it was already in the Bible hundreds years before. Read Job 9:8 which says that God expands the skies, way before the Quran says it. And at the time of Muhammed, some Jews and Christians were already thinking about the universe expansion theory, no miracle here, they lie to you.
Morpho32 1 month ago
@isasooner5 ALL you said is based on speculation and blind faith in what your imams say. There isn't any contradiction in the Gospels we, Christians, follow. And Jesus is the Truth. Also you as muslim should follow the Bible. If the Bible was already falcified at the time of the Quran, why your God said you have to follow the Bible? Huge contradiction here.
Morpho32 1 month ago
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@Pitttdog Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.”
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra – “Read”, he replied, “I am not learned”.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@Pitttdog Mohammad doesn't say so God says so.Everything Muhammad pbuh gets is from God. not himself. The holy Qur'an is divine revelation from Allah to him through the angel Jabreel or Gabriel. Nur DOES NOT MEAN FIRE. so Ur saying shaitan Satan is NUR, he is made from fire. Nur means guiding light a spiritual light as well as physical light. Allah is ultimate Nur guiding light. Muhammad is nur anyone with knowledge is a form of Nur. You don't speak Quranic Arabic u r getting confused.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 You are a perfect example of the typical people who misinterpret the Qur'an and its words and meanings. taking things out of context. this is always going to be the case until people learn the Arabic language of the Qur'an not conversational Arabic. Arabic especially Qur'an Arabic is the richest, deepest most complex language in the world. there are many different meanings for one word. that's why people get so screwed up, twisted and confused when it comes to Qur'an
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 I agree about Arabic. But this is also how you, muslims, can change the meaning of the true words. For example about the "constantly expanding the universe". In Arabic, this is not the meaning but this is how you interpret it and you added the "constantly". Actually this is just a copy of what is in the Bible (Job 9:8).
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@Morpho32 simple. b/c in the original gospel and injeel Jesus was never crucified it was only made to look like it. that's were the bible you see today has deviated from the original Gospel and injeel. Just like Jesus never claimed divinity or told his followers to worship Him. you won't even find that in the bible.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 Why Allah sent the Quran? Why not just the Gospels?
Morpho32 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5Yes he did.He had NO witnesses.He NEVER spoke to God directly.He contradicted the torah & gospels before in the worst ways possible.He didnt even know if was an angel or devil in the cave at hira-his wife told him.Islam is based on what khadija decided.Nur means fire or light-it doesnt mean refelcted light like naik claims.Dont try to run from the topic.i doubt it.koranic arabic hahaha-who said there is such a thing.So u think bones are formed before flesh too in the womb?
Pitttdog 4 weeks ago
@Pitttdog How could he have contradicted the Torah or other scriptures before him when he was AN ILLITERATE before Allah ordered him to READ IQRA. I've heard that argument before, not possible. Later on when Allah revealed the Qur'an to Him, Allah mentions the Torah, The Gospel and Injeel and confirmed them that came before Muhammad pbuh.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
If he couldnt read or write-was he also a retard?Was he unable to make up stories for others to write for him?As for being told to read-God would have known he couldnt.He didnt give him the ability to read afterwards did he?its a contradiction.The gospel & torah are mainly foretelling of the coming of Christ, that He is God.Where does the koran state this?Where is salvation via the Grace of God in ur koran?Where did allah tell uthman to bind the koran & burn the rest?
Pitttdog 4 weeks ago
@Pitttdog you just proved you have not researched Islam or read the Qur'an or life of Prophet Muhammad b/c u would've known he was an illiterate and Allah chose an illiterate man as his last a final messenger for that very reason. so the people w know that it was the truth, so they would think how could this illiterate man suddenly come to us and admonish us with this wisdom that's the miraculousness of him and his prophet hood. the Qur'an is after Christ so how can it foretell?
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
@isasooner5 Allah informs Muhammad pbuh of the torah, Gospel, injil, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and confirms all that came before him and the Qur'an You really need to go a read the Qur'an. these things are stated plain as day.
isasooner5 4 weeks ago
i am not going to debate with anymore.Its pretty clear you are ill researched on your own koran as well as know nothing of the bible. I have studied hadith(many ridiculously stupid stories), the koran and the different tafsirs.And i have done it open mindedly allowing the text to speak for itself-IN ARABIC as well.It is deficient and false.I look for things being confirmed not say'well how could this or that have happened'.I look for'This is how it happened'.U should do the same
Pitttdog 4 weeks ago
@iPledgeNoAllegiance cont-
New testamenet backed by secular records.Over 5600 original manuscripts remain and are accurate.
Prophecies accurately fulfilled both biblical & secular events.Many langauges-SAME MESSAGE.
As for 'schisms' there are sunni,shia,wahabi,alawi,sufi and many many more with there own spin on the same flawed text.
Hadiths on the authors life indicate a sexual deviant and sadist and theif.Contain fairytales such as the burak,a talking donkey etc.sad for u
Pitttdog 1 month ago
@Pitttdog Go and watch this debate on you tube Debate: Dr. Zakir Naik vs. Dr William Campbell - The Quran and the Bible in the Light of Science. then comeback and comment intelligently. Watch in it's ENTIRETY.
isasooner5 1 month ago
@isasooner5 i have seen it.I have checked Naiks claims of science in the koran and its all rubbish.The koran claims embriology where clay becomes fluid, then a lump then bones then clothed in lahem(flesh).a 12 yr old knows bones form AFTER the flesh,not the other way around.The moon 'reflected light' or "nour" which means fire & can sometimes be called light-theres nowhere where it says reflected light.I speak arabic.I know.Its all rubbish.Let him debate James White or Sami shamoun
Pitttdog 4 weeks ago
@Pitttdog You should have more respect. I would never call the thora a stupid book(or worse) Why would I... You gain nothing by being negative
Neferiti22 1 month ago
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Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: “And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.”
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra – “Read”, he replied, “I am not learned”.
KASHLAMDA 1 month ago
The Rabbi says Allah is!
omarabdullah 1 month ago
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@omarabdullah
Me thinks the Rabbi pulls out a prayer rug and sticks his patootie up in the air five times a day.
DragonDriver100 1 month ago
SORRY...Allah is NOT Jehovah. Make no mistake.
wqpeb 1 month ago
every one here knows that islam is the truth but they don't want to convert they want to play and want to win the heaven easily , poor people allah created u to test u as he tested addam wakeup, read quraan before you pass away read the meaning use your mind for a few minutes . how could you believe in three gods how could u say 3=1 come on 1=1 there is one god only this is your chance to think .peace
rshero123 1 month ago 16
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@rshero123 Quran 52:17-24,4:57,76:12-21,55:46-76,and 47:15say - in Islamic heaven Muslims will get many servants, meat, delicious fruits, exquisite wines and many houris for sex. Houri means beautiful maidens who awaits for muslims in. They would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor go to toilet !!! Houris will be "eternally young"," their entire body will remain hairless except the eyebrows and the head".They will always have SWEELLING boobs.
200nikesdeep 1 month ago
@rshero123 Christians think there is ONE God. And why do you say 3=1? You can also say that: liquid water + gas water + solid water = water.
Morpho32 1 month ago
I like to see all religious people kill each other with their mindless holy wars. It will help humanity by filtering out all the idiots from the gene pool, and it will resolve all the over-population issues.
Aizura77 1 month ago
I don't understand how people can have so much hate in their hearts for their fellow man. We are all one people, one humanity in the eyes of the one God of all creation. Whether you like it or not we all have the same origin and to Him we will all return.
redmattickjulie8r8 1 month ago
This Jew is a lying bastard. May he roast in hell
CyprusHot 1 month ago
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Angles786 1 month ago
MUSLIMS INVITED JEWS . TO SAVE THEM FROM HITLER. THEN THEY REFUSED TO LEAVE UNGRATEFUL VERMIN
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tigersforchrist 1 month ago
WE NEED PEACE!! WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD!! IMAGINE HOW POWERFUL THE MIDDLE EAST WOULD BE IF THE JEWS AND MUSLIMS UNITED!! PEACE AND HARMONY!!
sulli1989 1 month ago
@sulli1989 we are the creation of God..
seeumx4 1 month ago
Oh fuck that shyt there was never Palestine and there will never be one.It was people from egypy syria lebanon and jordan that their countries didnt want to have them back and told them to act like thet are poor and got diminished by israel.Muslims are 2B people have 30 countries+ and keep going every fucking place and spread their 999 children... their moms are used as whores that have 90 children and the fathers are killing people with bombs lol muslims pls stay only in Asia dont come EU & US!
dorBrex 1 month ago
@dorBrex u r liyn u mothefucker arabs are theree before the dirty jews come they came from europe
do0odi75 1 month ago
@do0odi75 arabs didnt came from europe lol u cam from fucking iran and tunis and egypt and lebanon andu all the same shyt 2b of people that have nothing to eat drink and ur governments take everything from u and kill...LOOK AROUND U, ASAD KILLS INNOCENT PEPOPLE IN LEBANON, EVERYDAY PEOPLE GET KILLED BY THE SOLDIER IN TUNIS,EGYPT AND SYRIA. R U ALL DUMB ASSES?LOOK AROUND U THEY KILL UR PEOPLE NOT MINE I DONT CARE I BLESS UR GOVERNMENT EVERDAY SO THEY WILL KEEP KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE LIK WHORES
dorBrex 1 month ago
when i said thick headed i didnt mean everyone guys,, so plz dont be offended!
MrEljasmi 1 month ago
to all thick heaed here,,, moses peace upon him and jesus peace up on him and mohamed peace upon him are the same to us muslims and we all follow thier teachings,, and if we dont then we r not muslims
MrEljasmi 1 month ago
why is there a Turkish flag?
36Ekinci 2 months ago