KDE on Windows

[DlKogilniceanu]

Cool

I have always on my laptop linux and windows. Now i will put on windows kde and SUA and I'll have full support of linux on windows. cool stuff. many thanks.

[1saac356]

@alanstryder Heh, yes, I did create it. Bring on the questions :)

My problem, if I remember correctly, was trying to copy stuff out of Firefox/Chrome on LXDE into OpenOffice (images, rich text, etc), not just plain text. I know you can do that on Windows with MS Word (and OOo?).

As for programming, I only made a few simple programs to learn QT and GTK. I'm not involved with Gnome or KDE (in case that's what you were thinking). And, most of my work is C#(.NET) on Windows :( (hey, work is work)

[1saac356]

@alanstryder Yeah, QT apps tend to be nicer in general. I've also programmed in both QT and GTK, and I find QT easier and more enjoyable, which puzzles me as to why there are more proprietary GTK apps (Hulu Desktop comes to mind as the major closed source one, Firefox and Google Chrome as well, although they are open source). I think it's because of the popularity of Ubuntu.

Anyways, in those cases, there tend to be issues (especially with copying and pasting rendered HTML out of web browsers).

[1saac356]

@alanstryder KDE is nice (probably the best desktop environment, IMO), but most linux applications are written in GTK, and they don't integrate well (at least, in my experience).

Also, on linux, you can come across applications that don't interact with each other (clipboard, drag & drop...). That happens less often on Windows.

I'm not saying Windows is better (dll hell, blue screens...), but it has advantages (and disadvantages) by integrating ui elements into the operating system.

[KKarlozss]

Windows 7 has a lot of very good stuff that GNU/linux OSs don't have and all the good stuff that GNU/linux OSs have that windows 7 doesn't are being ported to windows XP/Vista/7 etc ..

So do you think GNU/linux OSs will be one day at least as good as Microsoft OSs??

I started to think that no .. never if it continues in this way.

[1saac356]

@KKarlozss Unfortunatly, you're right. For example, I believe there is no good file browser in linux. Thunar is too lightweight, PCManFM is at least a little more elegant, but for whatever reason, it doesn't list files in alphabetical order, and, while nautilus is great, Gnome in general is starting to go down the tubes. If there were only one environment and one file manager, it would probably be much better.

KDE and Gnome have a lot of catching up to do before they are on W7's level.

[KKarlozss]

I would like to know why?

For wich use?

What is the need?

Why the effort to this portability?

Just to say .. because we can !!??

[1saac356]

@KKarlozss Pretty much, yes. Just to say we can. It's far from working perfectly on Windows, but if it did, it could provide a surperior working environment while retaining the ability to run games (that don't yet work in wine), ore use devices that need proprietary drivers, etc.

However, I've given up on it, as I'm a full-time linux user now.

[elpsychodiablo]

very intresting, but why i need kde on windows?

[DlKogilniceanu]

@elpsychodiablo for sure is not need for most of users, but for me is very useful :P.

[nanoibz93]

Malisimo... antes hago particion qe utilizar eso

[christiandolman]

wow! I'd like to install fluxbox on my father's windws, is there a tutorial or something that shows if it's possible? I don't like windows's native desktop..

[1saac356]

I think it would be very complex.

It would also be harder to run native windows apps if you were trying to replace the windows desktop with fluxbox.

Linux apps would be fine, but then, if that's all you're going to use, you may as well be running linux.

I haven't really looked into it, but cygwin with X may be what you're looking for. Instead of running linux inside of windows, they just ported a bunch of linux apps to run natively on windows. Idk if this applies to window managers, though.

[dale456654]

Could I get amarok like this?

[1saac356]

Yes. I did this for a while (but now I run KDE on Linux :)

The only problem is that there is a slight lag (1-2 seconds) between visual/interactive events and the sound. For example, I would click play, and then the song wouldn't start (or pause) until two seconds later. It sounded fine, though, it was just a little behind.

For instructions, I'd google search "ESD over a network" - there's a native server for Windows (then configure Amarok to use ESD)

[avansc]

what do you mean its better than nothing.. it is nothing.

[superlantis]

are you use emulador

Usas algun emulador ??? vmware or native kde windows

[1saac356]

It's not an emulator, it's a special version of linux compiled to run inside of Windows (think of it as the Windows version of Xen). Then, Xming is used to provide an over-the-(virtual)-network "screen" (which is actually just a window).

[superlantis]

ok I am go to install in my PC

Run 100 % fine 2.2 KDE and konqueror

some bug

install perfect

thanks

ok lo instale en mi computador funciona al 100%

[elceen07]

pero la version 3.5 es un asco

[Yazemu]

On my system I can't run any linux window managers because it says there is a window manager already running. Can you please tell me what options you used for xming to run kde?

[1saac356]

I just start it with the "Single Window - Fullscreen" option in the XLaunch utility.

Also, if you know anything about linux, you might want to make sure there isn't anything in the /etc/x11/xinit or ~/.xinitrc that is starting up a window manager.

[artzneo]

slow... win sux

muy lento en windows ,,, apesta esa mierda

[AustinOlson]

"This is not very stable on MY COMPUTER."

[martmelee]

ahuevo esa mierda de windows no sirve.. :)

[christy2drag]

Really slow under vista.

[Phobos11]

there's a reason why you can't run kde or gnome desktop on colinux, andlinux and other derivatives by default... you already have windows desktop running... makes sense it will crash

[emiemi2]

thank you for introducing this software. It is very interesting.