Svetlana Khorkina - 2004 Athens Olympics - AA VT

[Jeikudes]

is this a cheng vault but in tucked position?

[mlc2005]

Olympic gold in AA does not mean "best." I wish gymnastics and figure skating was more like tennis in that the Olympic gold, while prestigious, does not always accurately represent who is "the best." Look at Khorkina and Michelle Kwan as examples.

[GymnasticsFan1144]

Underscoreed..

[zeldafreak701]

I think if you're going to contest an unfair competition, you should go to 2000. Talk about unfair! I think this competition was fair.

[brunettekoala]

Svetlana is an excellent gymnast - that's how she got so many medals, but in 2004, Carly did better on the day overall. Carly was the silver world AA medallist in 2003 behind Khorkina. Many excellent gymnasts don't win all around gold.

[MegaSpiderman5000]

WOW!! I thought she deserved A much Better score. IN Athens 2004, lots of gymnast got ripped off. IN beising 2008 if you did that good you would have gotten a much better score

[msms68]

carly won everyone..just deal with it!

[chamuda610]

Underscored like crazy. She is the real AA champ.

[kyle887923]

she always gets robbed on vault. First time it was set to low and now the score was to low.

[indiatree]

This should have been a 9.6. .1 deduction for knee separation; .1 deduction for not having a complete stick on the landing; .1 deduction for a little lack of power. But this is taking every possible deduction. She landed very upright without her chest being low to the ground. A 9.462 is a total joke with this 9.9 start value vault. Where do the extra deductions come from?  What are they taking off for? Ludicrous.

[efrainherrera1]

@indiatree patterson landed outside the lines  and her SV was 9.8 and almost got the same score, This was sold!

[Tribute2the80s]

Underscored. And I love the bitch face at the end.

[edlu0]

To be honest her score is perfectly fine. Her form in the air is not the best her legs may be glued together but one is ahead of the other one, and also when she jumps of the horse her legs did get separated at first but she brought them back together. Carly may have stepped out of bounce but her form was really good, neither of them were scored incorrect.

[LCAmarkymark]

@edlu0 I would agree with you..but I just can't..they named the vault after her so I don't think they should have scored her so low or taken so long to get a score

[zeldafreak701]

Arguing that this was underscored for the AA gold is like arguing Shannon Miller's underscored vault for AA gold. It sucks and probably is unfair but what're you going to do? They're not going to take away the gold medals from their respective winners just because years later people say 'No it was the wrong score! Robbed!" If you think they're the real winners then just be happy with that. Sveta already proclaimed herself the rightful winner anyway =|

[Querzeo]

So, for the judges this is a 9,462 vault!? With that perfect landing, inside the square, and no steps? They talk about her legs, but what about Patterson opening her legs to the side in the front somersaults? Those are technichal issues, never deductions.

Definitly, this was clearly underscored!

ps: and by the way, so was her floor routine... :-(

[eliza321511]

umm she clearly had to take that step to keep from falling foward. She always tried to hide those landing like that

[rgtzgmnst]

I didn't like the vault and she was overscored at the ub so why people say she was better than Carly Petterson

[xjennabeanx33]

It's just me but personally I think that was the ugliest vault I've ever seen from an elite.

[MrJST94]

you can see on her face absolutly.....??? what???

[markoparko]

I believe this got the same exact score as Anna Pavlova. Which is insane.

It would have made the end of the All-Around competition much more exciting if this had been score correctly. I don't know who should have won. I felt the All-Around finals at this Olympics were a little underwhelming.

[natalienat518]

this vault should be at least a 9.8

[KseniaSemenovaFan]

@natalienat518 no that would be overscored, it has to 9.6 but than she wouldn´t have won either!

[LGailey]

That was one of the best of those vaults that I've seen her perform. Nice power and a clean landing - can't ask for much more.

[raichmaneuvers]

Her score was crazy. Carly did a crappy vault with bad form, not much amplitude, landed out of bounds and a hop and got more out of her own start value (9.375) than Khorkina out of hers (9.462). What a joke. If Carly was a 9.375 this should have been a 9.7 atleast.

[GymFloozie]

So heartbreaking for the Great One to lost to a sixteen-year-old. Read around the net on this.  Most people who know what they're talking about believe Sveta was underscored here. Many (including Sveta and her team) believe she was purposely underscored. Carly has no more business with that medal than I do.

[minesweeper69]

@GymFloozie You didn't deserve to win a medal because not only are you a fuckin' whale, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Honey, LOOK at that block and give me one good reason why she shouldn't get hammered for TUCKING when she hasn't even left the table.

[ChainChomp2]

@minesweeper69 That should only be a technique thing and not a deduction...nowadays we see the men doing the same thing on their Roche vaults to increase their rotation when they think the block gives them too much height and this is a tucked rudi anyway and was considered difficult (Cheng Fei's stretched version wouldn't be out for a year), and that whale remark was uncalled for.

[markedexclusive]

People say her vault was underscored yet it was the highest scoring vault in the AA.

[indiatree]

Yeah, but it was a higher start value vault. Given the way she executed it, the score should have been about .15 higher based on the start value. The judges scored this as though it started from a 9.7 rather than a 9.9, which was its actual value.

[KaeslinFan]

i saw her and before i knew her name i thought she was Lia Parolari of Italia

[ralucagymnast]

I really think she was very badly underscored on this vault:(

[theurbansoul]

Its crazy Sveta never won AA gold she is the best AA gymnast, she has a move named after her on every event.

[yellowbanana104]

absolutely agree! but one thing more: its not she has a move named after her on every event, but at least a move! she's reli reli great!

[lostlyrarose]

@theurbansoul the leg staggering was probably hefty. she could never really do a tucked position. and a little off to the side. but yeah, a little low.

[pyroclastalexiel]

@theurbansoul

lol. i looked up her moves on the internet just now. apparently she has 2 moves named after her on vault, 3 on bars, 2 on beam and 1 on vault. *sigh* i miss her.

[GAGALOVER347]

@theurbansoul and over 1 on three i think!

[BrittanyxKilla]

one word: UNDERSCORED. shes the true olympic champion.

[mrflipz]

however she was overscored on bars. the true olympic champions pavlova.

[pottercito7]

Very true. :)

[yellowbanana104]

pavlova was good on vault, beam and floor, but still needed some polishments on bars.

[JohnPhilipSousa519]

@BrittanyxKilla Carly won. Get over it. That's like what everyone says when people make reference to the fact that the Chinese girls were like 12 in Beijing. So why do people like you feel the need to complain if an American wins? As soon as someone mentions the word "underage" in the same sentence as the Beijing Olympics, everyone starts bashing the US and how they are sore losers. When the American team does well, all those Europeans say that they don't deserve it.

[Yuri92001]

@JohnPhilipSousa519 People like to talk about it. It will continue for decades to come. lol get use to it :P

[raichmaneuvers]

@JohnPhilipSousa519 nobody says anything when an American deserves to win. Heck at times people said an American was ripped off. However when a gymnast does not deserve to win and is overhyped and overmarked like Patterson of coruse people will say something. Patterson and Mary Lou Retton, and Simona Amanar are by far the 3 least talented gymnasts to ever win the Olympic AA. Of course the latter 2 won more by default circumstances than judging. I am American by the way.

[MRdavenport2010]

@BrittanyxKilla i agree

[GymnasticsFan1144]

@BrittanyxKilla i absouletly agree!!!!!!

[96horseluvr]

@BrittanyxKilla i'm sorry do u mean OVERSCORED because of her name?

[HLNawesomeness]

@BrittanyxKilla She just never had good luck at any Olympics.

[sqekcx]

lol she actually got the highest vault score on that day with this

[keli59]

She deserve the gold!!

Really underscored

[havarahel]

that is a very easy vault that is why she scored low.

[Selecious]

.......this is NOT a very easy vault. maybe for a guy. very few gymnasts attempt this vault. at the time of this olympics it was one of the most difficult vaults being performed there.

[havarahel]

vaults with bend legs are much easier than with straight.

[Selecious]

yes but this is a a rudi with a round-off half on spring entry, which is much much MUCH harder than a laid out yurchenko entry.

khorkina is dubbed as being the only person to have executed and "stuck" this particular vault. cheng fei does the same vault but laid out which is obviously much harder but still the other gymnasts were performing laid out vaults however they were yurchenko entries.

[havarahel]

ok. i believe you cause I can't do any of this. I didn't think the rudi entry could be so much more dificult.

[Selecious]

lol. yeah. rudi is 1 1/2 twist vault. but this is a round-off half on rudi...also known as the Khorkina II.

[alexzjay]

This vault is so beautiful. What difficulty would it get today? Has anyone apart from Khorki preformed it?

[Selecious]

i know of only one other gymnast who attempted it but didn't do so well.

[ralucagymnast]

Cheng Fei performs the exact same vault, but in a layout position, instead of tucked. Its worth a 6.5 today, as the Cheng. But the vault is Sveta's.

[Darkangel127]

The Khorkina II has an A score of 5.9 as of 2009. The only other gymnast to have competed this vault is Carlotta Giovannini.

[Kin1247]

you can look at her face...absolutely

Indeed,

How come so low mark

[keli59]

I think Khorkina is the real 2004 all around olympic champion

her vault was underscored :(

[sochisochi]

low score :(

[macassar88]

She was really underscored on the vault.