18 September. John Key and Bill English confront Labour

[adam60883]

SELLOUT - Google 'Max Keiser' it follows the neo-right-wing philosophy.

[fullaflash]

Look im all for uploading this sort of content on the web, debates like this are so much more informative than the watered down affairs on TV3 and TV1. But can we PLEASE not have edited, cut and excerpted versions of them? NZNATS I don't know if you are cutting things that impact negatively on Mr Key, but I can hardly come to a proper conclusion when there is clear evidences of cuts. If you are going to post these videos, please post them UNEDITED.

[isahone]

Any incumbent pushes its message. National did it in the 90's, Labour is doing it now, the public does actually need to know what the Government is doing.

The thing about Democracy is that Elections have consequences, and when you win it means you are in a better position to put your point of view across.

That is how these things work.

[malvadoburro]

JK: "Well why in this document are call center staff being told "Here are some achievements and milestones in health over the past six years" It may help to tell callers about some of these...."

HC: "Madame speaker it is actually the duty of a government to make sure that policies that are being pursued, that the tax payer is paying for are actually known about."

Sounds like Labour propoganda to me.

[stove999]

this is another example of the inability of our politicians to answer basic questions. It is not debate it is simply an over beauracratic system which allows people like Helen Clark and Steve Maharey to back out of questions without ever really answering them. John Key is a far better public speaker than Clark, he answers questions

[FonziNied]

Go Helen!!

[daynaclaire]

i think labour are packing there bags already i don't know how they got in last time

[McFrosty2014]

That's easily explained: They were facing the second weakest National opposition in living memory, added to that it was an opposition completely devoid any form of illustrated policy. The same baseless rhetoric was there, but when it came to hard numbers, facts and figures it gave the New Zealand voter nothing in which to place their trust and confidence. The electorate could probably remember the stagnation of the Shipley era as well.

[McFrosty2014]

I smell National Voters.

[BradV8]

Key is the man!

[flyinggeek]

This electoral bill is a disgusting piece of legislation in a democracy and should be killed.

[McFrosty2014]

I wonder,would your rhetoric be so rabid if it was a National government introducing this bill?

[flyinggeek]

Any bill that is self-serving and limits freedom of expression has no place in a so-called "democracy" regardless of who is behind it.

[hftf1]

it doesn't serve anyone - every party including labour has to follow the laws.

[flyinggeek]

This bill restricts criticism of the Government by community groups and also provides unfair advantage to incumbent MP's compared to electoral candidates. It also tried to exempt Government departments from the EFB until National and the media made an issue of it. How can you say that this bill is not self-serving for the Labour Party? They're desperate to win next year and will try anything including changing the rules to suit themselves.

[NZNats]

The EFB gives Labour - as the sitting government - enormous advantages over all contenders.

[pwa2thappl]

but they are not, so what is your point?

[pwa2thappl]

and i smell a LABOUR VOTER