language proves nothing...the irish the scots and the welsh people do speak english....but no one doubts that they are celtic and not german saxons like the english
έιναι απορίας άξιο , πώς στις μέρες μας που η μόρφωση είναι δικαίωμα και ειδικότερα , η γνώση της ιστορίας του τόπου μας είναι καθήκον και υποχρέωση , υπάρχουν έλληνες που αμφισβητούν την ελληνικότητα των αρβανιτών.
Κατόπιν τούτου αναρωτιόμαστε για τα σκόπια, για τα γκέτο στην Αθήνα και παρεμφερή φιλοσοφικά ερωτήματα.
Αφήνουμε αλλοδαπούς να μνημονεύουν , να σχολιάζουν την ελληνικότητα των αρβανιτών και να τη θέτουν υπό έρευνα. .. Μα τόσο απαίδευτοι?
Arvanites are those whose mother tongue is "Arvanitika" (in greek: arvanites=arvani+tis+notias=Albanians from the south of balkans).The word Arberesh is used in Albanian; most linguists use the word Albanian for the language
Arvanites fought and died for Greece, before the term Shqiptar even existed....
Seems their northern cousins are jealous. Yes, being the Turks lapdogs does not make a very proud history. Why no just enjoy the beautiful music, and leave nationalism aside?
@gr84man Η εθνικότητα είναι θέμα επιλογής και μόνο!Το πώς νιώθει κάποιος.Οι περισσότεροι Αρβανίτες-και είμαι από την Ήπειρο και το λέω αυτό-ήταν Αλβανοί, και αυτή η διάλεκτος είναι καθαρά αλβανική.Αλλά και τι σημασία έχει...
Before 1912, there was no Albanian nation. There were only Turks (Muslims), Franks (Roman Catholics) and Romioi (Orthodox Christians). The Orthodox Christian Arvanites of Greece were and are Romioi, which is why they identify with the other Greek- or Vlah-Speaking Romioi that make up the modern nation of Greece.
@leontas2 But you must be blind,deaf and brainless.This is not Greek so must be some-other language.Now i'll tell you : this is ALBANIAN ,for the simple fact that i do understand it.
Obviously your word has to last and I will leave you with question that gives you an answer:
1 Can you understand this song by just using Greek lingo ? answer is no.
As for Greeks you have a proud and long history that is the Fact. However you can go on and claim all the good things in Balkans,, cos there are so many nation that have and do contribute to this region.
you dont get it man. its not about the language you speak. its about how you identify yourself. the Arvanites identiy themselves as Greeks. Therefor, they are Greeks.
@konig82, I respect you opinion regardless, do I agree or not.
FACT is that Greeks CANNOT and I with repeat CANNOT understand a single world of this particular song and other Arvanitas folkflore... Therefore, logicaly you statement is weak. that they are Greek.
They are Arvanitas with origins that can be traced to Albanians and you don't have to be lingo expert to understand this song just be able to speak Albanian.
"The object they have in view is the Hellenisation of Albania. The whole of the southern portion carries its commerce through Janina and the inhabitants regard this town as their capital. As yet their aspirations to form a distinct nationality are thought to be weak and ill-defined, so that the Greeks hope, with the possession of Janina, to amalgamate the two races and gain over to the cause of Hellenism the finest and most warlike race in southern Europe."
@marr21 Your father fought for their freedom because they lived there,and not for the Greek Propaganda Nation...It wasn`t a Greek Nation in that Time....If you say that they represent they self as Greeks but they cultur and Language is Albanian...About the Language and the cultur nobody can lie..
Is very easy to find the origine of arvenites.Ok, if they are greeks please find one greek who translates this song in English.If si, I will agree with you that they are greeks.Otherwise shut up and listen the other side .Arvanitika is an dialect of Albanian and is not even close to greek.
Arvanites come from a tribe called Ilirioi. And has nothing to do with modern Albanias. Modern Albanians are turk-mongol tribe. Try to find your roots my friend.
@yorgos83epos are you serious?!?!? albanians are direct decendents of illirians, and thats not a speculation, thats a historical PROVEN fact. so what you saying is that we albanians and you arvanites come from same parents but we are not brothers......ok good luck on being something you are not, greek.
@joystickck who have idea,you ignorant..translat this song in Greek Language and than will see is an Albanian Language or Greek dialekt..this is 100% Albanian Language...
ne vreshte ne nje pjeshke...
oh yes idiot,is greek...yes you are right,to be greek you must be first Arvanit-Albanian...
its sad in 100 years arvanites will completly will be assimilated as greeks.. there will be lost a important thing of albanians. its sad. oh e mjera shqypnie o e mjera
Is sad that you mix arvanites with Albanians. Because their national consiousness is Greek and you can ask them if you dont believe me!
And do you know why? Because albanians were killing arvanites because they were christians and fighting for the greek independence from othomans. Arvanites are greek by definition, like many albanians from Argyrokaster and Korytsa.
ah shut up man. what do you want to say. they are pure greek. ore so mething they are still albanians. and sing in albani an. do you hear this music. you dont understand this. bitch . so shut the fuck up. whats next saying albanian is greek or something
@agon1984 They are RELATED to Albanians, but they are NOT Albanians. Its like calling a Serbian and a Bosnian/Croatian the same people. Albanians/Arvanites are even more further apart, and yes they have hated Turkish Albanians (Muslims) for a very long time, and been neighbors, married/mixed with Greeks for even longer time.
periergo na akoyw mia mh arvanitissa na tragoydaei me tosh anesh kai accent arvanitika tragoydia poy thewroyntai logw ths mesaiwnikhs toys dialektoy apo tis dyskolotera omiloymenes glwsses ths valkanikhs
language proves nothing...the irish the scots and the welsh people do speak english....but no one doubts that they are celtic and not german saxons like the english
MrAbagaz 8 months ago
Τιμη και δοξα στους Αρβανιτες που σηκωσαν στις πλατες τους το βαρος της ελληνικης επαναστασης
deliciouspunkgirl 1 year ago 4
@deliciouspunkgirl Κι οχι μονον, εσηκωσαν στις πλατες τους ενα ολοκληρον ομορον Εθνος,
oink1853 1 year ago
@deliciouspunkgirl alla lipiro pou den to emathan pote sta sxolia k iothetisan olh aythn thn historia dear lady...
genangel13 7 months ago
@deliciouspunkgirl Απλά συγχαρητήρια !!!
έιναι απορίας άξιο , πώς στις μέρες μας που η μόρφωση είναι δικαίωμα και ειδικότερα , η γνώση της ιστορίας του τόπου μας είναι καθήκον και υποχρέωση , υπάρχουν έλληνες που αμφισβητούν την ελληνικότητα των αρβανιτών.
Κατόπιν τούτου αναρωτιόμαστε για τα σκόπια, για τα γκέτο στην Αθήνα και παρεμφερή φιλοσοφικά ερωτήματα.
Αφήνουμε αλλοδαπούς να μνημονεύουν , να σχολιάζουν την ελληνικότητα των αρβανιτών και να τη θέτουν υπό έρευνα. .. Μα τόσο απαίδευτοι?
monoellada1 3 months ago
Arvanites are those whose mother tongue is "Arvanitika" (in greek: arvanites=arvani+tis+notias=Albanians from the south of balkans).The word Arberesh is used in Albanian; most linguists use the word Albanian for the language
MrTikifaik 1 year ago
@gr84man kainourgio auto?? etsi eksigounte ta fainomena dimas, sampanis, maniani, etc etc etc etc........
streetracervti 1 year ago
Arvanites fought and died for Greece, before the term Shqiptar even existed....
Seems their northern cousins are jealous. Yes, being the Turks lapdogs does not make a very proud history. Why no just enjoy the beautiful music, and leave nationalism aside?
BdColonel 1 year ago 2
@BdColonel good point
faethongr 1 year ago
hahahaha kendon nje zog i bardhe
Prati555turku 1 year ago
@gr84man Η εθνικότητα είναι θέμα επιλογής και μόνο!Το πώς νιώθει κάποιος.Οι περισσότεροι Αρβανίτες-και είμαι από την Ήπειρο και το λέω αυτό-ήταν Αλβανοί, και αυτή η διάλεκτος είναι καθαρά αλβανική.Αλλά και τι σημασία έχει...
mitsianful 1 year ago 2
Before 1912, there was no Albanian nation. There were only Turks (Muslims), Franks (Roman Catholics) and Romioi (Orthodox Christians). The Orthodox Christian Arvanites of Greece were and are Romioi, which is why they identify with the other Greek- or Vlah-Speaking Romioi that make up the modern nation of Greece.
leontas2 1 year ago
@leontas2 But you must be blind,deaf and brainless.This is not Greek so must be some-other language.Now i'll tell you : this is ALBANIAN ,for the simple fact that i do understand it.
inpeaceallofus 1 year ago
@leontas2 ok,no albanian nation,but what language is Arvanitika?Albanian,old Albanian language...so my dearif it wasn`t the Nation,was the Language..
TheLapiot 11 months ago
Kalo 8a htan na eyrafes tis metafraseis file mou !
Se euxaristo
21parat 1 year ago
Αφου οι Αρβανιτες ειναι Ελληνες αυτο σημαινει οτι οι Αλβανοι ειναι Ελληνες και οχι οι Ελληνες Αλβανοι.
DigenisAkritas83 1 year ago
Is there any song done by Domna Samiou that does NOT sound good? Très belle!
Dan1988A 2 years ago 4
isi kace grek=gey o ti thelia ala afti tragullai arvanitika=albania,I born USA....i"m Albania
bejleroti 2 years ago
WTF?!
Arvanites and greeks?!
Arvanites are Albanians, or can any greek Translate that what she is singing there?!
I can, becouse its Albanian!
iLLyrianAlbO 2 years ago 2
@iLLyrianAlbO read history. Specificly make a search beggining at 1204 and ending at 1216.
christzouve 1 year ago
Cfare eshte propagande dhe cfare eshte e vertete?
Arvnitet=Grek
Arberesh=Italian
Shqiptar=Caucasian ?
Ose:
Arberesh Arvanitas,Shqiptar mund te komunikojne me njeri tjetrin ne gjuhen e tyre Arberore.
Gjejeni tani!
Vlora66 2 years ago
This is very beautiful, I like it. Would anyone please be so kind as to translate?
Sinopeus 2 years ago
@Sharped1Arrow,
Please don't get off the topic.
Obviously your word has to last and I will leave you with question that gives you an answer:
1 Can you understand this song by just using Greek lingo ? answer is no.
As for Greeks you have a proud and long history that is the Fact. However you can go on and claim all the good things in Balkans,, cos there are so many nation that have and do contribute to this region.
mitipacarada 2 years ago
you dont get it man. its not about the language you speak. its about how you identify yourself. the Arvanites identiy themselves as Greeks. Therefor, they are Greeks.
nickpafras 2 years ago 3
---they are Greek citizen with Albanian background-
---------and because they sing, dance and Speak in Albanian--
-----All these Ingredients lead to the Normal Conclusion that ...
------ they are an ALBANIAN MINORITY IN GREECE--, but of course, on the other hand
--------.......... they are Greek Citizens....who have Albanian Background
aspetosi 2 years ago
i identify myself as american but they havent given my american id soooo
so idiot hhhaaaaaa
drreik 2 years ago
First Spartiates was Albanian
then Homer was Albanian
then Alexander was Albanian
now Arvanites
give me a break...
Sharped1Arrow 2 years ago
So if you are an Albanian join the greek nation.
All these were not Albanians with today's notion,not even Pelasgians (prohistoric greeks of the South-Eastern Europe).
You steal our money, leave alone our HIstory!
marr21 2 years ago
Salute you all,
@konig82, I respect you opinion regardless, do I agree or not.
FACT is that Greeks CANNOT and I with repeat CANNOT understand a single world of this particular song and other Arvanitas folkflore... Therefore, logicaly you statement is weak. that they are Greek.
They are Arvanitas with origins that can be traced to Albanians and you don't have to be lingo expert to understand this song just be able to speak Albanian.
Rg,-Miti
mitipacarada 2 years ago
Don't speak for ourselves, we are greeks by born and by choice !
marr21 2 years ago
better to be hated for what you are then to be loved for what you are not ... ;)
Kryezoti 2 years ago 11
BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOO!thank you so much kryezoti!this is so beatiful song!LONG LIVE EPIR ALBANIAN CONTRY:ALBANIAN BLOOD
ANADRINASI 2 years ago
Te lumte dora qe e prure ketu mo Kryezoti!
trendafil2005 3 years ago
Probably half of Greeks today are Albanians.
tonialbanianamerican 3 years ago 4
one of yours:
"The object they have in view is the Hellenisation of Albania. The whole of the southern portion carries its commerce through Janina and the inhabitants regard this town as their capital. As yet their aspirations to form a distinct nationality are thought to be weak and ill-defined, so that the Greeks hope, with the possession of Janina, to amalgamate the two races and gain over to the cause of Hellenism the finest and most warlike race in southern Europe."
-Times of London (1878)
balkancoolhead 3 years ago 3
when the arbanits were in Greece the race of albanians had not appeard in the maps. arvanites are Greek race. Albanians are from turkish roots
yorgos83epos 3 years ago
I dont think so dear!
If is like that, so the half of Albanians are Greeks!
konig82 2 years ago
Yes, but we are real Greeks, and you can't change it. Our fathers fought for Greece. Why you fight against Greece?
marr21 2 years ago 2
@marr21 Your father fought for their freedom because they lived there,and not for the Greek Propaganda Nation...It wasn`t a Greek Nation in that Time....If you say that they represent they self as Greeks but they cultur and Language is Albanian...About the Language and the cultur nobody can lie..
TheLapiot 11 months ago
ξέρει κανείς τί σημαίνουν οι στίχοι;;
SofiaEDT 3 years ago
Is very easy to find the origine of arvenites.Ok, if they are greeks please find one greek who translates this song in English.If si, I will agree with you that they are greeks.Otherwise shut up and listen the other side .Arvanitika is an dialect of Albanian and is not even close to greek.
Albani1111 3 years ago 4
She is asking just what the tekst of this song means. If you can explane her do it, if not dont be so offensive please.
Kryezoti 3 years ago
Greek and Albanian are two ancient languages. Both of them unique because they are alone in the branches of language families.
konig82 2 years ago
@Albani1111
Arvanites come from a tribe called Ilirioi. And has nothing to do with modern Albanias. Modern Albanians are turk-mongol tribe. Try to find your roots my friend.
yorgos83epos 1 year ago
@yorgos83epos are you serious?!?!? albanians are direct decendents of illirians, and thats not a speculation, thats a historical PROVEN fact. so what you saying is that we albanians and you arvanites come from same parents but we are not brothers......ok good luck on being something you are not, greek.
streetracervti 1 year ago
@Albani1111 You have no idea what you r talking about. Most of the arvanitikes words belong to greek dialects
joystickck 1 year ago
@joystickck who have idea,you ignorant..translat this song in Greek Language and than will see is an Albanian Language or Greek dialekt..this is 100% Albanian Language...
ne vreshte ne nje pjeshke...
oh yes idiot,is greek...yes you are right,to be greek you must be first Arvanit-Albanian...
TheLapiot 11 months ago
@joystickck so how comes we can understand this song is arvanitas/???
TREASURESOFALBANIA 8 months ago
@joystickck how comes we understand this song??
TREASURESOFALBANIA 8 months ago
its sad in 100 years arvanites will completly will be assimilated as greeks.. there will be lost a important thing of albanians. its sad. oh e mjera shqypnie o e mjera
agon1984 3 years ago 7
Is sad that you mix arvanites with Albanians. Because their national consiousness is Greek and you can ask them if you dont believe me!
And do you know why? Because albanians were killing arvanites because they were christians and fighting for the greek independence from othomans. Arvanites are greek by definition, like many albanians from Argyrokaster and Korytsa.
konig82 2 years ago
ah shut up man. what do you want to say. they are pure greek. ore so mething they are still albanians. and sing in albani an. do you hear this music. you dont understand this. bitch . so shut the fuck up. whats next saying albanian is greek or something
agon1984 2 years ago
idiot he is right.
no matter whats their origin , which of course is Albanian, arvanites are firmly Hellenize and Greek nationalists.
you can take a bus and visit them, and say to them they are albanians and find out...
arvanite language is dying out, in 2-3 generation it wont be a spoken language any more, which is a shame.
amet1980 2 years ago 2
@agon1984 They are RELATED to Albanians, but they are NOT Albanians. Its like calling a Serbian and a Bosnian/Croatian the same people. Albanians/Arvanites are even more further apart, and yes they have hated Turkish Albanians (Muslims) for a very long time, and been neighbors, married/mixed with Greeks for even longer time.
grp504 7 months ago
@grp504 you are living in some kind of psychotic dream world of propaganda
Arvanites and Albanians are the same people who speak the same language and have the same origins
IllyriaLion 2 months ago
ΚΡΙΕΖΩΤΗ ΜΟΥ...ΤΙ ΜΠΟΡΩ ΝΑ ΠΩ; ΣΙΩΠΩ!:)
kostikas31 3 years ago
aste bravo. pusho ti, gapse je vogel ede nek duhen te flases kur jane te madeniet perpara hehe
fernardobriass 3 years ago 3
hajt bre ni këngë shum mirë.
velesian 3 years ago 2
periergo na akoyw mia mh arvanitissa na tragoydaei me tosh anesh kai accent arvanitika tragoydia poy thewroyntai logw ths mesaiwnikhs toys dialektoy apo tis dyskolotera omiloymenes glwsses ths valkanikhs
arivalos 3 years ago 2
esy thn milas aftin thn glwsa arivale?
Kryezoti 3 years ago
@Kryezoti εγω την μιλαω φιλε κριεζωτη
constantinos52 1 year ago
its beautiful! euxaristw!
shautora 3 years ago
Nice video Kryezoti!
kingbardhuli 3 years ago
Faliminderit Kryezoti
omernishi 3 years ago 2
shume e bukur!esht fantastike!
soritzel 3 years ago 5
60 years ago 15000 greeks came to poland.very good and nice people:)
bokaj1312 3 years ago
Kryezoti bravo pou Skefteikes na grapseis kai sta Ellhnika ta logia giati Aresoyn se pollous ta Arvanitika :)))
Shume ide e bukur per perkthim bravo :)))
Sadjola 3 years ago 2