This is a gorgeous ride. Can see collected, medium and extended forms. Tail is a distraction. Beautiful tight corners. And one dances and has fun with them. Even the announcer got excited, and I found myself clapping at the end (I'm watching it on my computer, and have never clapped before)
Steffen Peters mit Ravel! WOW! And I LOVE that British remix! What brillance putting this together!!! Can you imagine how Steffen felt training for this, KNOWING that he was preparing to win first place in Aachen for the USA???
I have audited a clinic with Steffen Peters and he is incredible, he is so kind to the horses and does not tolerate people using the spurs or curb rein too much. Everything with him was about suppleness and the horse going well, and not allowing people to just hold their horses and kick like this "false piaffe" people are mentioning. He believes in clear, correct training and fit and happy horses. Not only is he an amazing rider, he is also an outstanding clinician.
The piaffe is real close to false - how you tell is IF the croup rounds and comes under the wither point, the hind legs well underneath him. Sometimes it does -sometimes it doesn't. The horse does look real tired. His hands do move alot, the horse is bracey as its tail does ALOT of moving almost all the time. Classical dessage does not need to be redefined it stands alone as a perfect way of training free moving, non-resisting, beautiful horses that will STAY sound.
I think Ravel looks tired. But he is magnificent, very well trained and ridden. I wouldn't call it a false Piaffe, I'd call it an exhausted one. Easy for us to judge, huh.
However, if you look at Anky, Edward or even Isabell Werth, you will notice the curb is consistently at an angle greater than 45 degrees to the horses mouth. The curb puts pressure on the poll which causes the horse to flex vertically. This consistent over cranking of the curb causes the horse to over collect in the neck. A limited amount of curb, as SP does, is a highly classical practice, and shows that the rider is using the seat more for collection instead of the curb.
@aauvolleyball21 Actually Edward Gal did not train Ravel to I-1. He only got to ride Ravel when the horse was much older, he had several other riders train and break him. Also, just want to point something out that makes Steffen Peters a much better rider, note the curb bit. You will notice the curb is on a 45 degree or less angle with Ravel's jawline, thus he is not using the curb as much.
And FYI if you watch this video carefully, you will see that Ravels 4th vertebra is usually the highest point, not the poll, his changes are uneven - much more expressive one way than the other, the pirouettes are large and hopping behind and the horse is wringing his tail hard thru' the entire test . Still an awesome job, but come on - this is a European trained horse ridden by a European trained rider who now lives in California.
His poll is the highest point. The 4th vertebrae is actually very low in the neck compared to popular belief and thus in that particular position the poll is actually the highest point. As for his changes, they are a lot better than Totilas, he is extremely unbalanced in them. Steffen Peters has also been coached by Jessica Ransehousen, an American rider and trainer, since he came to the US. He is not exactly what I would call a European trained rider.
I would say these 2 horses are a testament to the way EG trains horses. I get so tired of reading post after post criticizing some of the most brilliant riders in the world today by people who spend more time on the internet than in a saddle
Ravel was trained and competed through Intermediare, Lingh was trained and competed through GP by Edward Gal. Both of these horses were purchased by students of Stefan Peters, presumably with his input since he was always going to compete Ravel. Obviously SP has less of a problem (asan international rider and trainer) with the way these horses have been trained than the people posting on this site - are you ALL competing internationally and hiding behind aliases??
I love Steffen Peters but I was underwhelmed by the musical arrangement. I know the music is supposed to be instrumental only but it was pretty lackluster elevator style. And too many transitions from different types of music.
No, Ravel will win over Totilas EASILY, if the judges actually pay attention to the rules and standards of FEI dressage, and stop awarding obscenely high scores to rollkur-trained horses whose poll is not the highest point, and whose hind legs aren't remotely parallel with their front.......
YES!!! THANK YOU!!! I'm glad someone FINALLY noticed how lenient and careless the judges were! That horse SHOULD NOT have scored so high with his uneven movement and unsteady changes and, well, many other things...
Great riding! I could watch these all day long. Does anyone know if there's any way to get hold of the music these riders use in their kurs? I know most will be made up by bands etc, but is there somewhere to start?
Edward Gal made both of them Ravel and Totilas and Totilas father Gribaldi - pure Trakehner stallion sired by Castolany.... but( there is always but)
Ravel's blood test did show positive result of virus infection - one of those strictly controlled in USA. The virus lives only in semen so they cd not cover mares or freese semen (it did not kill virus)... for relocation to USA they had to castrate Ravel...
I will always believe that gelding this great horse was a crime against nature! Ravel's owners - no matter how filthy rich they may be - would do well to take a lesson in true horsemanship from the owners of Moorlands Totilas.
i know this is probably going to get a lot of negative feedback, but his ride kept bothering me for some reason... not because it is technically incorrect by any means. he's a brilliant rider, there's no questioning that. but, does anyone else see that there is a subtle lack of fluidity, especially in his transition work?
I must agree, I am not a fan of this type of modern riding and despite them claiming to be the basis of classical, I do not see it and I really think its changed. If you watch the Piaffe, it is not a true piaffe, as Philippe Karl would say, a false piaffe, this means the back feet don't actually come up as they should. His transition work looks almost a bit, rusty and tense, the transitions aren't great. Also I don't like the fact that his hands seem to move around quite a bit,which I dislike!
fantastic!!!........esp!.....the "expression" of the horse!......a true horseman, makes any horse true!:)....all of steffen peters' horses look like that!!!:)
I was stunned while watching this...just one word: AWSOME!!!
Does anybody knows the name of the instrumental part from "We can dance"?
I really like it!
km288 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
von der Galopp pirouette in die Piaffe, das muss man erst mal hin kriegen :-) Mach ich jeden Morgen vor dem Frühstück!
Kiathira 3 months ago
It looks great :)
MsMira1306 4 months ago
All time favorite dressage rider!
Lexthelime 6 months ago
Wow! He makes that look sooo easy. He looked awesome! So did the horse.(:
horseluverlol 8 months ago
got to see him give a clinic today and does he have one nice butt :)
10hintza 10 months ago 2
he looks nice and loose!!!!!
Dressageriderrobin 1 year ago
can i use this clips in my videos ? :)
kellyponi 1 year ago
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WoWstormchloe 1 year ago
...auch dieser reiter sollte sich mal den film "stimmen der pferde" ansehen !
Espostona 1 year ago
@Espostona ??? Warum?
Rocky1350 1 year ago
An amazing rider on an amazing horse. It doesn't get much better than that. :)
xxWolfofDarknessxx 1 year ago
It's amazing that top horses land toe first. What's more amazing is that top trainers, riders and judges don't know that it is incorrect.
WTP7 1 year ago
Ganz wie der Vater,
einfach bombastisch!
Steffen Peters ist so genial und dieses Pferd sowieso :)
renus00 1 year ago
Beautiful! I love them! great team! <3
NativeGirl1992 1 year ago
This ride was great, and the music ist wonderful - can someone tell me which is the music when he rides in?
IsabelleK 1 year ago
@IsabelleK It is "When I Ruled The World" by Coldplay.
UltimateDQ 1 year ago
@UltimateDQ no,its viva la vida. wrong name, same song.
gypsylover96 1 year ago
@gypsylover96 Ya, I realized that shortly after I posted but couldn't be bothered to go back! Thanks!
UltimateDQ 1 year ago
This is a gorgeous ride. Can see collected, medium and extended forms. Tail is a distraction. Beautiful tight corners. And one dances and has fun with them. Even the announcer got excited, and I found myself clapping at the end (I'm watching it on my computer, and have never clapped before)
barbleberrey 1 year ago
FIX the darn video...it stops cobstantly. Or REMOVE it.
giselle6363 1 year ago
Steffen Peters mit Ravel! WOW! And I LOVE that British remix! What brillance putting this together!!! Can you imagine how Steffen felt training for this, KNOWING that he was preparing to win first place in Aachen for the USA???
walk4trot2canter3 1 year ago
@walk4trot2canter3 Oops, British, Canadian remix! It doesn't matter. I'm gaga when I see this video!
walk4trot2canter3 1 year ago
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Great, so much better than Totilas,...
Ginni58 1 year ago
Great, so much better than Totilas,...
Ginni58 1 year ago 3
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Ginni58 1 year ago
Loving the floppy relaxed ears :)
Jacbriding 1 year ago
What a lovely combination & routine
HKW1994 1 year ago
Das war die aller, aller, allerbeste Kür die ich jeh gesehen habe!
Das war einfach nur B.O.M.B.E !
Geriblue 1 year ago
Omg! I wanna be like that one day :D
xXXTkiHtelXXxxx 1 year ago
at 6:09 he lost his stirrup
avrillavigne1981 1 year ago
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MExJUDITH 1 year ago
I have audited a clinic with Steffen Peters and he is incredible, he is so kind to the horses and does not tolerate people using the spurs or curb rein too much. Everything with him was about suppleness and the horse going well, and not allowing people to just hold their horses and kick like this "false piaffe" people are mentioning. He believes in clear, correct training and fit and happy horses. Not only is he an amazing rider, he is also an outstanding clinician.
DraftDressage 1 year ago 2
The piaffe is real close to false - how you tell is IF the croup rounds and comes under the wither point, the hind legs well underneath him. Sometimes it does -sometimes it doesn't. The horse does look real tired. His hands do move alot, the horse is bracey as its tail does ALOT of moving almost all the time. Classical dessage does not need to be redefined it stands alone as a perfect way of training free moving, non-resisting, beautiful horses that will STAY sound.
KCashatt 1 year ago
great horse.
great rider.
great music.
:D
karolakita1 1 year ago
who comments ??? he is so funny!!!
xuxuschatzi 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
salinero is a gazillion times better than ravel
mallithegr8 2 years ago
do you know how anky trains her horses?
avrillavigne1981 1 year ago
I think Ravel looks tired. But he is magnificent, very well trained and ridden. I wouldn't call it a false Piaffe, I'd call it an exhausted one. Easy for us to judge, huh.
Abwarmblood 2 years ago 9
@Abwarmblood i agree he does look rather tired
1horse1crazy1 1 year ago
However, if you look at Anky, Edward or even Isabell Werth, you will notice the curb is consistently at an angle greater than 45 degrees to the horses mouth. The curb puts pressure on the poll which causes the horse to flex vertically. This consistent over cranking of the curb causes the horse to over collect in the neck. A limited amount of curb, as SP does, is a highly classical practice, and shows that the rider is using the seat more for collection instead of the curb.
ewolfbalto 2 years ago 3
@aauvolleyball21 Actually Edward Gal did not train Ravel to I-1. He only got to ride Ravel when the horse was much older, he had several other riders train and break him. Also, just want to point something out that makes Steffen Peters a much better rider, note the curb bit. You will notice the curb is on a 45 degree or less angle with Ravel's jawline, thus he is not using the curb as much.
ewolfbalto 2 years ago 2
Can't wait to see Ravel and Totillas compete against each other - it will be an awesome competition.
aauvolleyball21 2 years ago 2
where will they compete against eachother? What competition? I'd really like to see that too
ToPeVeNtErr 2 years ago
And FYI if you watch this video carefully, you will see that Ravels 4th vertebra is usually the highest point, not the poll, his changes are uneven - much more expressive one way than the other, the pirouettes are large and hopping behind and the horse is wringing his tail hard thru' the entire test . Still an awesome job, but come on - this is a European trained horse ridden by a European trained rider who now lives in California.
aauvolleyball21 2 years ago
His poll is the highest point. The 4th vertebrae is actually very low in the neck compared to popular belief and thus in that particular position the poll is actually the highest point. As for his changes, they are a lot better than Totilas, he is extremely unbalanced in them. Steffen Peters has also been coached by Jessica Ransehousen, an American rider and trainer, since he came to the US. He is not exactly what I would call a European trained rider.
ewolfbalto 2 years ago 2
I would say these 2 horses are a testament to the way EG trains horses. I get so tired of reading post after post criticizing some of the most brilliant riders in the world today by people who spend more time on the internet than in a saddle
aauvolleyball21 2 years ago 3
bettylion and silivasgold
Ravel was trained and competed through Intermediare, Lingh was trained and competed through GP by Edward Gal. Both of these horses were purchased by students of Stefan Peters, presumably with his input since he was always going to compete Ravel. Obviously SP has less of a problem (asan international rider and trainer) with the way these horses have been trained than the people posting on this site - are you ALL competing internationally and hiding behind aliases??
aauvolleyball21 2 years ago 3
I love Steffen Peters but I was underwhelmed by the musical arrangement. I know the music is supposed to be instrumental only but it was pretty lackluster elevator style. And too many transitions from different types of music.
Somebody get this guy a new music producer!! :P
bettylion 2 years ago 2
HORSE OF THE YEAR ! Congrats! What a horse....
PrincessStardusting 2 years ago
amazing!! somebody buy me this horse!! =P
dmmcmjmkem 2 years ago
I dont know what the big fuss is about Totilas is gonna wack this horses arse!
DECORSTUD 2 years ago
No, Ravel will win over Totilas EASILY, if the judges actually pay attention to the rules and standards of FEI dressage, and stop awarding obscenely high scores to rollkur-trained horses whose poll is not the highest point, and whose hind legs aren't remotely parallel with their front.......
SilivasGold 2 years ago 4
@SilivasGold
yeah!!!!
bettylion 2 years ago
@SilivasGold
YES!!! THANK YOU!!! I'm glad someone FINALLY noticed how lenient and careless the judges were! That horse SHOULD NOT have scored so high with his uneven movement and unsteady changes and, well, many other things...
RRhapsodylover 1 year ago
The first song is Viva La Vida by Coldplay.
The second song is Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones.
rae3m2011 2 years ago
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Riemol 2 years ago
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Riemol 2 years ago
@rae3m2011 i thought the whole freestyle was coldplay?? well thats what he told us when he was over here for the forum?
dmmcmjmkem 2 years ago
Kan iemand mij vertellen welke muziek na "we can dance" komt?
Can someone tell me which music he is using after "we can dance" ?
Riemol 2 years ago
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richmondkrn 2 years ago
They look sooo balanced he and Ravel are my FAVORITES!!! plus he doesn't do rolkur
cavreenactor 2 years ago 24
love this, what a pair.
I love that ravel is a lighter dressage horse-some of them now a days are so heavy looking!
eventsid 2 years ago 2
i'd like to send this horse a big bag of carrots!
robinraylee1 2 years ago 2
das ist wirklich mal wieder schönes dressurreiten.
ein lockeres pferd durch den rücken,
zufrieden. schaut man sich gerne an
wenn ich mir totilas angucke , spektakulär aber
das ist alles sehr fest und unter negativer spannung. vorne strommeln die soldaten und hinten spielt keine musik weil die inner mitte stecken bleibt
siseboy 2 years ago
Great riding! I could watch these all day long. Does anyone know if there's any way to get hold of the music these riders use in their kurs? I know most will be made up by bands etc, but is there somewhere to start?
tsteph2 2 years ago
i dont know if you follow horsegirltv:dressage but she actually just did a segment about music freestyles. its in podcast on itunes or her website
bonanzaandhorsegirl 2 years ago
a few words for melvinhcox -
Edward Gal made both of them Ravel and Totilas and Totilas father Gribaldi - pure Trakehner stallion sired by Castolany.... but( there is always but)
Ravel's blood test did show positive result of virus infection - one of those strictly controlled in USA. The virus lives only in semen so they cd not cover mares or freese semen (it did not kill virus)... for relocation to USA they had to castrate Ravel...
artaxcondor 2 years ago 3
I will always believe that gelding this great horse was a crime against nature! Ravel's owners - no matter how filthy rich they may be - would do well to take a lesson in true horsemanship from the owners of Moorlands Totilas.
melvinhcox 2 years ago
he was in my town today teaching a clinic... I got a lesson from him!! SO awesome
ponyroxit12 2 years ago
En los cambios de mano a galope en un tranco.. que leches hace con la pierna tan atrasada antes de ordenarle que cambie?
Vaya birria..
El caballo no se aclara con este jinete..
camperikaa 2 years ago
i know this is probably going to get a lot of negative feedback, but his ride kept bothering me for some reason... not because it is technically incorrect by any means. he's a brilliant rider, there's no questioning that. but, does anyone else see that there is a subtle lack of fluidity, especially in his transition work?
myprideandjoy529 2 years ago
Really? At first, I thought it was a little odd, but it really grew on me. Are you thinking of the passage/piaffe transition?
bcbeaupied 2 years ago
i think hes trying to keep up with the music so it might look awkward..
Keirajn 2 years ago
I must agree, I am not a fan of this type of modern riding and despite them claiming to be the basis of classical, I do not see it and I really think its changed. If you watch the Piaffe, it is not a true piaffe, as Philippe Karl would say, a false piaffe, this means the back feet don't actually come up as they should. His transition work looks almost a bit, rusty and tense, the transitions aren't great. Also I don't like the fact that his hands seem to move around quite a bit,which I dislike!
lassiesuca 2 years ago
I would rather see his hands moving than perfectly still. If they are perfectly still, they are obviously not giving and are hard.
cfaulconerdressage 2 years ago 2
@lassiesuca I would love to see Philippe Karl do a test as good as this. Not just a piaffe, the whole test.
UltimateDQ 1 year ago
Now THAT'S a dressage rider!
Living proof that kind, patient dressage riding can result in the greatest successes.
And what a piaffe! A true piaffe, with jump!
bettylion 2 years ago
just got back from a clinic with steffen in alberta canada. it was amazing!
simplysassy99 2 years ago
I see a Ravel/Totilas showdown in our future.
Cinder857 2 years ago 3
Both are very good horses.. but for me SP and Ravel fit much better together.
Kayleigh74 2 years ago
I agree. Edward Gal is an amazing rider and Totilas is an amazing horse, but Steffen and Ravel fit perfectly.
bcbeaupied 2 years ago
OMGGGG! did anyone else notice that he lost his stirrup at 6:08 ?!?!?? i had to watch that part 3 times over to make sure! he is truely a god. <3
louisarichards 2 years ago
when u ride properly it shouldnt matter if u loose a stirrup, u ride through ur seat :)
equinelove4 2 years ago
ein fantastisches pferd und ein reiter der den sieg VERDIENT hat.
maikesponge 2 years ago
look at this horses ears in the one tempi's....
shedreamsofhorses 2 years ago
omg, you're right!! ^^ I didn't notice first :-D he's ugly!! xD
jumpingSarah 2 years ago
omg look at that guy at 4.30 next to ankys husband, he has possibly the worst hair and facial expression i have ever seen........lololol
GPonyyyy 2 years ago
fantastic!!!........esp!.....the "expression" of the horse!......a true horseman, makes any horse true!:)....all of steffen peters' horses look like that!!!:)
rudy5255 2 years ago
isn't that Sjef?
pegasus1747 2 years ago
geniales pferd!!!!
MeladyN1 2 years ago
Fantastisch!
Gescheiterte 2 years ago
Thanks, I changed it, here it is a famous name and we spel it with 2 "e" 's
robespierrot1 2 years ago 3
@robespierrot1 we spell "spel" with two l's also.. :D (this is ment in the kindest possible way)
kara2lucy 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting this! It is fantastic. FYI - more people on YouTube will 'hit' on it if you spell his name correctly.
dqwannab 2 years ago