And the reporter Ivy is obviously a bitch for her acts because she pretend that she wouldn't write about P's job but she did so oppositely. This is betrayal.
@tenddyson The real "bitch" is HK tabloid journalism. Yes you can blame Ivy, but she's just a small potato in a grand scheme of things. She's just working in the system. yes she can walk away and quit, but how many can do that ? Get off your moral high horse and get REAL!
@SugarKatie get real and be like them? how can you force people to accept something which is wrong when they are not willing to? tell me do you wanna be yourself or do you wanna be someone like ivy.
I guess he is requesting DT to go die, but not necessarily to be true, in fact he didn't even say he wanna kill DT or ask DT to kill himself. He's just providing an option for DT. It's DT's choice after all.
Anyways, Donald Tsang will die one day. not too worry about that.
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喂,你估你係邊個?曾太呀?比人起底瓜瓜嘈!我都睇過果篇報道,完全唔覺得有乜問題,你公開段歌就預左有人講架啦,佢刮你個底,問埋tvb,有乜問題?記者嘅職責就係多角度咁問人後報道架啦,問咗你一個聽晒你講就係岩呀?你真係思想混亂同n重標準,鬧人就得,人哋寫你就作歌唱人,仲話乜嘢社會責任,良心,根本唔關事,好心你咪同你d music 一樣naive,我唔知邊個係ivy,but我撐佢!
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至於在傳媒理論上,我也有補充,只要從合法途徑獲得,是事實就有果句講果句先係真正的傳媒道德要堅守的,考慮到影響到那些人,或對那些人有那些影響,已經是有bias,也就不是持平了,因為一考慮.就不能避免個人立場或情感,這就是veil of ignorance理論中的傳媒道德.其實,傳媒理論及傳媒道德都有幾套,(to be cont)
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另外,我也贊成法例有漏動是要嘈,那便嘈政府,不是嘈ivy,我也說了,就算阿p呢首歌只是可憐ivy,但如我之前所說,很多人聽歌後會誤會而怪責ivy,下面也有人數ivy係poor guy,那你又認為甘係好事?人地不對,我們罵他,要求其改變,改善,是可以,但要用正確,有效的方法,矛頭也要指對(to be cont...)
in fact i think if she really feel sth about the song, its good, she should rethink about her job, its a chance to change her life and her way of living.
in fact i think if she really feel sth about the song, its good, she should rethink about her job, its a chance to change her life and her way of living.
太強鳥...
很高興能聽到你的歌
terry09171 4 months ago
回頭是岸~~~ivy~~
rackee2010 8 months ago
無恥
yyyyy123456 10 months ago
And the reporter Ivy is obviously a bitch for her acts because she pretend that she wouldn't write about P's job but she did so oppositely. This is betrayal.
tenddyson 1 year ago
@tenddyson The real "bitch" is HK tabloid journalism. Yes you can blame Ivy, but she's just a small potato in a grand scheme of things. She's just working in the system. yes she can walk away and quit, but how many can do that ? Get off your moral high horse and get REAL!
SugarKatie 11 months ago
@SugarKatie get real and be like them? how can you force people to accept something which is wrong when they are not willing to? tell me do you wanna be yourself or do you wanna be someone like ivy.
tenddyson 11 months ago 4
I guess he is requesting DT to go die, but not necessarily to be true, in fact he didn't even say he wanna kill DT or ask DT to kill himself. He's just providing an option for DT. It's DT's choice after all.
Anyways, Donald Tsang will die one day. not too worry about that.
tenddyson 1 year ago
RAP 黎嫁@@"?
Choiestin 1 year ago
PK IVY
ddlam2 1 year ago
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LyricsByTony 1 year ago
當你仲可以嘅時候要趁早起行
fuku7 1 year ago
講真, FACE 有時真係作大作得好誇張
geoffreyfai 1 year ago 4
Ivy我知近年畢業是很不幸
讀書時你應該無諗要過呢種人生
...sigh
zebrafang 1 year ago 4
讀書時你應該無諗要過呢種人生...唉.....
ccy97210333 2 years ago 4
有社會責任感既傳媒工作者
係最快俾公司炒的
只有出賣道德的才能生存
這就是香港, 正逐步與大陸接軌的香港
vc05349 2 years ago 21
據阿P說,Ivy聽完歌後,都希望認真想想讀傳理系畢業的自己,為甚麼要做 FACE。
gululuuuuuu 2 years ago 137
反過來講,如果陳志雲真係因為某員工晌自已非工作時間作了支歌唱當奴,就會炒個員工,咁呢間公司都好有問題,何解現在香港,大家都會有咁的恐懼?就算非工作時間唱下歌彈下政治人物,都會驚披露左會影晌自已工作?我覺得咁同呢件事本身一樣咁悲哀。
eddielung31 2 years ago 13
香港好多位高權重的人都係咁樣....表面開明, 其實最mung suck
detectortrader9999 2 years ago 3
@eddielung31
而家D作詞人作黎作去都係情情愛愛,敢唔敢批評政府,反應社會現實!?
heroes5 2 years ago 6
在自已工餘時間,用自已資源去做甚至同僱主無直接關係的任何事,本來就唔關公司事(除非佢上班時間作歌又第二件事)。如果咁都可以影晌份工,香港都好得人驚。
eddielung31 2 years ago 8
响澳門就係咁。响澳門,你老闆見你政治立場同政府唔啱,係會炒咗你。 香港人如果想將來同我地澳門一樣,就繼續沈默落去啦。
barbmarco 2 years ago 3
this is so cooooooool!
filifelefilifele 2 years ago
真係過引。
yeewaishun 2 years ago 7
my little airport
支持你地
em0213 2 years ago 4
第一,歌詞都講公司裁員時不會講社會責任,第二,鬧同驚係兩回事!因為驚而唔鬧,就真係無x用!
kinkingoalgoal 2 years ago
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又要鬧政府又要驚,無撚用!!!個記者又無作嘢,傳媒有責任報導事實既真相,吾報導又畀人話自我審查,人地依加作嘢屈你咩!?自己又要鬧政府又要驚,仲要喺度唱人,影衰男人
zzznic913 2 years ago
非常同意.... really great song, thanks man!
addictedtorhcp 2 years ago 3
IVY 真不該!!!!!!
opdben 2 years ago 6
IVY.............REALLY PK
raymeimei 2 years ago 44
@raymeimei 其實face PK D
henry3509 1 year ago 5
超正!!!
svtgtityper 2 years ago 7
MrTizzybac:我同bosschu唔係fd
我唔係見你兩個同聲同氣先話你地係fd
不過見你youtube a/c「好友」果欄得bosschu一位先諗住你地應該識姐
如果誤會左你
唔好意思!
devilmonitor 2 years ago 4
咁已說明一切? 姐係點?
我諗youtube delet一D令人髮指的言論都係想stop左個罵戰姐,唔好係到扮清者,有眼見ga。
Chevaux07 2 years ago 5
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我只係想講,MLA 同佢d 支持者,都係一言堂,唔啱聽,就deletedeletedelete,我同bosschu都係比人delete晒啦,
咁已說明一切!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
IVY.....你真"不該"~!
chrt104 2 years ago 6
做記者做到咁無品.....唉....可悲
如果人地真係無左工.....
我好想同你講句
你呀媽生少你一樣野 . . . 良心
仲要再post多期....
仲好意思用咁多廢話將自己GE行為合理化
SHAME ON U......壹仔你玩晒La. . .
wforwan 2 years ago 10
MrTizzybac
已加入: 西元2009年05月24日
martinlaw2007 2 years ago 12
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係我頂唔順又要講嘢:我聽聽下d 歌詞,真係覺得好好笑,佢覺得個記者3唔識7,就會害佢,原來喺佢眼中,記者要interview自己友,兼protect到佢死先叫專業!好心啦!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
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我同bosschu唔係fd,同ivy都唔識,算啦,道不同不相為謀,
講多句都多餘真係!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
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另外devilmonitor, 我打咁多野既原因的之前講左, 自己爬爬文
總之, 我既立場由始至終都係支持香港社運人士用正確的方法向正確的方向前進.
bosschu 2 years ago
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to genealfay
大家都係大人, 自己做既野自己要承擔一切後果
先澄清, 我係好buy 'please die donald tsang', but not this song...
另按devilmonitor
以情蓋理都唔係理性討論行為, 同埋呢個就係新聞業, 同任何人都唔係friend, 所以港台會照樣話政府, 同樣地亦會話其他人
bosschu 2 years ago
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devilmonitor
appealing to person並不是理智討論之行為, 若youtube可以無word limit, 我大可以一個reply出晒所有野
bosschu 2 years ago
to bosschu and MrTizzybac
你兩位力撐果個記者
係因為佢同你地兩位有關係?
定係想表達你兩位見解獨到?
雖然你兩位係好友
都唔使一齊洗板卦?
有兩位呢種見解既人
難怪香港有咁多傳媒以專業及新聞自由之名任意行事
devilmonitor 2 years ago 18
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generalfay 兄:
你都幾多"如果",
傳媒唔係社工,會唔會令人無左份工唔係佢要concern的事,呢個世界乜都有可能發生,而且,寫佢係無線人,何來會就無左份工?佢又唔係偷又唔係搶!如果你係記者就慘,驚這驚那,想做救世主人人開心,真係超現實!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
To: 樓上兩位
無可能要求每個人都要做到太偉大...
我相信阿p同你地同我都只係大社會內o既小人物...
作歌鬧下政府係舒發下自己o者... 駛唔駛一定連生計都賭埋落去?
理想野人人都會講... 但係做得出o既有幾人?
我尊重傳媒報導事實o既權利, 但係害到人地冇左份工點講都講唔通...... (如果真係因為呢個訪問的話...)
generalfay 2 years ago 10
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個人認為, 拿呢句真係個人認為, 講錯請指正, 點解出得泥大聲講野,又唔想人搵你, 搞得社運,又怕無左份工,點解要為人民服務,又要怕自己犧牲,又點解唔坦蕩蕩,卻要搞到自己長戚戚呢?社民連搞社運,義無反故,知自己係岩,俾人告都唔怕,最多只係堅持自己,從未因為人地告佢地呢個行為而怨過,寧在法庭上堂堂正正交手,搞社運,唔係應該先要有咁既決心同覺醒嗎?
bosschu 2 years ago
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我都唔想鬧人,唉,其實ar P作歌係有心,
覺得唔開心比人寫都係人之常情,但係情,理,要分清楚囉,可能我對有心既人要求高些喇
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
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當然,我都認同壹仔本身係好多問題,不過係呢一件事上,係無位入到佢的,我開波都講左,話佢只會換泥俾佢話番你不尊重新聞自由,好在壹仔係反政府,未必會同社運人士撐盡。
bosschu 2 years ago
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其實阿p都好明白就算他不講,傳媒也有權寫,所以至做個訪問,而且IVY真係無實牙實齒應承,就算有應承,做法於理不合,但香港是法治社會,法理上壹仔無錯,那就只可怨阿p一相情願.而且實報實說係記者應有,而家不是ivy說我不會寫你份工,你講啦咁去呃呀p講,而係呀P自己講之後要求佢唔寫,所以呢個case,咩野操守都無犯到,反而係呀p要求傳媒放棄操守
bosschu 2 years ago
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to generalfay
就算阿p唔做訪問,壹仔一樣會公開,同埋篇稿會多左句"阿P不接受訪問or sth lik dat
問題是阿p做的事是public concern,他本人都會是public interest, 不要以為用"阿p"呢個名字就等於隱藏真身,係社會上,藝名同本身都係同一個身份,你做的事是open to public, 傳媒就可以dig deep
bosschu 2 years ago
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下,佢求人唔好公開,咁就變左君子協定?鬧傳媒好易,不過唔該你諗下鬧既野有無理據!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
點會唔係?
好簡單... 你以為阿P知道Ivy 會公開的話會唔會接受訪問?
傳媒有權報導事實, 阿P一樣有權唔接受訪問...
受訪者唔想自己身份被公開... 傳媒唔守係操手o既問題...
generalfay 2 years ago 7
記者言論自由唔係大哂...
受訪者請求Ivy 唔好公開佢工作, 呢個係接受佢訪問o既君子協定...
我誓死支持記者o既言論自由, 不過呢位記者(及其公司)o既職業道德同人格已經破左產...
generalfay 2 years ago 16
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多謝你delete我留言,令我更肯定佢係一
個是非不分n重標準自我中心的人!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
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老掉大牙的一句
就算理念對,但做的方法及方向錯,也不見得是對的
跟我強辯沒用,事實道理是怎樣就是怎樣,你不認同也是你的自由
bosschu 2 years ago
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tizzybac說得對,傳媒尊重的應該只有真相,而不是任何人的意願,這才是真的傳媒道得,你要我隱瞞,為什麼,是不見得光嗎?就傳媒操守來計,一件事,我要說的是事實,及其全部,至於該事件的對與錯,應該由事實公開後讓大眾討論,而不是因一方的立場來報導
bosschu 2 years ago
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to matrinana.
而且呢個case IVY無實牙實齒應承, 就算有, 麻煩你看看我之前所說, 在香港,法例並不包含breach of confidence的檢控,breach of confidence, in Chinese, 背棄信義.
bosschu 2 years ago
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好難聽,
嘈沒用,要用強力方法先得
sleepfreedom 2 years ago
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佢唔想d media就要聽晒佢話同佢隱形?你估media係佢私器?
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
To MrTizzybac
但呀P好明顯講左意願係唔想人地公開喎,咁個記者之後私自公開都唔岩啦
matrinana 2 years ago 4
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mpyau 2 years ago
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喂,你估你係邊個?曾太呀?比人起底瓜瓜嘈!我都睇過果篇報道,完全唔覺得有乜問題,你公開段歌就預左有人講架啦,佢刮你個底,問埋tvb,有乜問題?記者嘅職責就係多角度咁問人後報道架啦,問咗你一個聽晒你講就係岩呀?你真係思想混亂同n重標準,鬧人就得,人哋寫你就作歌唱人,仲話乜嘢社會責任,良心,根本唔關事,好心你咪同你d music 一樣naive,我唔知邊個係ivy,but我撐佢!
MrTizzybac 2 years ago
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另按mauimeou:壹仔不是公眾機構,而是私人商業傳媒機構,請緊記傳媒機構不代表是公眾機構,只是他所做的是面向公眾罷了,打個比方,社運人士做的事面向公眾,但不代表他們是公眾人物,而且如果壹仔係"公眾機構",你估他的立場又會如何?
帶得太遠,也說不完,傳媒理論,在此不再多說,要說私底下找我,歡迎之至
bosschu 2 years ago
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(cont)幾套理論個有不同,但社會責任及自由主意傳媒都要中立,就是要不從任何一方的立場出發或考慮地發表真相
當然我不是說壹仔是這樣的機構,但就批露阿P係tvb做呢個舉動來看,壹仔無做錯.
bosschu 2 years ago
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至於在傳媒理論上,我也有補充,只要從合法途徑獲得,是事實就有果句講果句先係真正的傳媒道德要堅守的,考慮到影響到那些人,或對那些人有那些影響,已經是有bias,也就不是持平了,因為一考慮.就不能避免個人立場或情感,這就是veil of ignorance理論中的傳媒道德.其實,傳媒理論及傳媒道德都有幾套,(to be cont)
bosschu 2 years ago
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至於話我錯誤引用"新聞自由"同"法例"的用家,請張開雙眼看清楚,我說的是壹仔的引用方法,並不認同,呢句說完要再說,是因為我說了幾次都有人認為出自我口的就是本人立場,even那只是我在用壹仔角度切入或只是陳述一個我講明我不贊同的現實.
bosschu 2 years ago
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(cont)在以上,我再重申,我只是指出這首歌不會有效的原因(壹仔無道德,法例問題),而也會因為有些人的誤會而令有可能無辜的人受指責,並且題出以我愚見所知,呢件是背後甚麼地方出了錯(也是壹仔無道德,法例問題),難道我見到的問題我不能說?
bosschu 2 years ago
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另外,我也贊成法例有漏動是要嘈,那便嘈政府,不是嘈ivy,我也說了,就算阿p呢首歌只是可憐ivy,但如我之前所說,很多人聽歌後會誤會而怪責ivy,下面也有人數ivy係poor guy,那你又認為甘係好事?人地不對,我們罵他,要求其改變,改善,是可以,但要用正確,有效的方法,矛頭也要指對(to be cont...)
bosschu 2 years ago
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TO MAUIMEOU
請不要斷章取義,我是支持發聲表達的, 要清楚我說的有很多是本人估計壹仔或一些對家對此事的回應,提出本人看到有機會給他人攻擊的地方,而不是本人的立場及本人對阿p作出攻擊,本人道出一件事的發生及存在,不代表本人贊同該事
bosschu 2 years ago
ivy, change job la
elasticandygal 2 years ago 3
Ivy問過陳志雲點睇個員工同埋首歌?應該冇野既........上次記者問佢點睇彭冠期全裸寫真佢至崩口人忌崩口碗o者。
merkabah 2 years ago
this is great! ~
Kevin
kevinkahomusic 2 years ago
十卜
ckli217 2 years ago
ok. so... everyone has to be like this in face...
where's ivy??
ivansoba 2 years ago
face 嘅 Ivy,妳係邊呀?
Ivy,Ivy,Ivy,Ivy........
lovelacerbrt 2 years ago 5
support
futurextako 2 years ago
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最後我打番d無咁理性既個人感覺,其實我打既野比每一個人多,都應該睇得出我都係一個有心人掛,當然壹仔咁反政府既斷估都唔會同社運人士撐得太行,但如果換左係'西方牛',咁就慘,自己係岩姐,都唔駛俾位人入,更重要係自己岩唔代表人地無位入,反觀對住d真小人,話到明自己係仆街而且又好奸既,應付佢地,比對付果d廢物庸才更難
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu: 13: 最後我都打番幾隻字俾你. 我好少reply 人, 今次reply 並不是因為首歌, 因為p, (我不認識他) , ,而係因為你, 因為你話你係新聞系學生. 你的arguments 一時一樣, 要認真想想. 大學是train 人有logic 思辨的, 希望你graduate 並加入media 時已有一個clear mind 同real heart, 並不會因年月而侵蝕.
mauimeou 2 years ago 4
re: bosschu: 14: (contunue) 好似辨論甘, 並唔係只係分左正/反兩方之後各方方將任何arguments 倒晒出來. 當中even 只是support 正 or 反的arguments 亦有contradiction, 要分清楚. 而且要有理據, 不能為argue 而argue.請你拋開之前的想法, 參考其他人俾你既comment, 再思考一下吧. 我希望見到, and also pround of 熱血且有良心的人於傳媒工作的.
mauimeou 2 years ago 3
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當然我都知呢個係呀p對自己立場既堅持,陰謀論d講呀p大可以都係引緊壹仔再講佢泥引起更多人注意,不過我只係想講唔好踩落人地陷阱,俾人用自己把刀插番自己,我無話撐壹仔,不過我只係讀緊新聞都想到壹仔會咁做,你估壹仔有無d更加毒既手段未用丫拿,我自己都好睇唔過眼,但係仲係學緊野既我而家做到既只有提醒.
bosschu 2 years ago
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壹仔最惡既係,只要法律上無話唔岩,佢就做到盡,到你搵到痛腳咩,除非你有錢去告佢,否則佢大可以唔理你.係呀我都覺壹仔好多時其實唔岩,但係無理由見到個氹都要踩,我都知私隱要專重,我地個個都知,壹仔都知,但係佢要唔專重,我地可以點,佢大可以引用子華名句搵食姐,犯法牙',反咬你唔專重新聞自由都仲得
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu: 11: 你頭3行係講緊現實, 但reality 係甘不代表我們要坐視不埋. 呢個亦係media 之所以得人尊重的地方. 要行動, 要發聲才可進步. 亦係讀social science, media 的人的方針. even 讀law 的人, 出來也不是樣樣拿法律出來的, 法律不足就有人發聲,行動, 去修訂.
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
re: bosschu: 12: "但係佢要唔專重,我地可以點" 就係要行動, 要發聲. 你還不明?
呢個同"新聞自由"無關.
子華個句"搵食姐,犯法牙" 係指出社會的悲哀同講呢句說話的人的無賴.
mauimeou 2 years ago 4
同香港傳媒講道德真係sai x氣
rosymew 2 years ago 5
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所以言論自由, 道德呢d野其實都係雙面刃, 你拎泥插人人地同樣可以插你,壹仔呢d無道德包伏既機構,就係要引你打番佢轉頭,咁佢就賣多幾本,下期又多樣野寫,n年前程介男事件佢都係用呢招引人回應之後攻擊,試想下, 如果下期face寫話呀p呢首歌唔專重新聞自由,你估佢大聲定係我地大聲,我只係提醒唔好中壹仔計,唔係話呀p唔岩
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu:10: 重複: 話佢唔岩, 同言論自由係無關 ga bor!
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
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況且, 我上面亦有講ivy只係編採部其中一個人, 真係寫呀p係tvb做既可能另有其人, 就算呀p只係覺得ivy係壹仔做野係慘, 睇下afare17既留言, 就會知其實好多人會將矛頭指左向ivy, 如果一件事發生, 而我地既矛頭係攻擊一個俾罪魁利用既人身上話佢唔岩, 咁同政府係'疑似'事件上拉人既做法有咩唔同
bosschu 2 years ago
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傳媒係要有道德, 但係傳媒道德都有幾種詮譯, 如果話因為受訪者既個人意願而選擇一d野出唔出街, 其實呢一個做法一樣係違反左專業操守, 首先, 我之前都講過, 香港係無得用breach of confidence告人, 就算'ivy'有實牙實齒應承過唔會寫呀p係邊度做, 係法律上, 壹仔都無唔岩,
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu: 8: 都係個句, 你口口聲聲講法律, 你寫既野同你口中既壹仔冇分別.
"因為受訪者既個人意願而選擇一d野出唔出街, 其實呢一個做法一樣係違反左專業操守" -> 如果個樣information 係重要而且有冇mud影響到其他人 先係岩. 不是千篇一律套呢d 野於不用case. 呢個case 反而係show 佢冇傳媒道德.
mauimeou 2 years ago 4
re: bosschu: 9: 你既立場一時一樣, 真係要好好訓練, 你頭2行講到就係因為傳媒道德所以佢登出來, 後2行又話就算佢冇道德你都冇佢符. 你究竟想講mud.
mauimeou 2 years ago 3
nice=]
唔識分既人, 在意都無用
識分既人, 會知佢好無用
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govad 2 years ago 3
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同埋講道德果位, 你咁樣打道德牌咪同之前插呀p話佢講please die係cursing果班人一樣. 首先唔好拉埋壹仔之前d衰野, 就今次事件而言, 佢無寫假野, 而採訪既手法亦合晒法律, 以壹仔既作風, 大馬偷影呀嬌呢單野都做得出, 識得走法律la係打馬偷影香港無得告, 怨呢d人無道德, 等於叫佛祖信耶穌,
bosschu 2 years ago
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上面問我知唔知私隱係咩既, 我只可以答你, 係香港, 係無一條法例可以直接檢控侵犯私隱行為, 所以我段野都大大隻字打左話係法律上香港係有不足, 令到壹仔可以多次咁做,
bosschu 2 years ago
而家好多人,只要被人評擊....就會話人唔專重佢既言論自由.
ASDF00HK 2 years ago
傳媒要有道德同操守,
言論自由不適合用係d 咁既情況。
相信並希望;
唔係個每一個讀新聞系既學生都咁無知,都存有錯誤觀念。
pipipierre 2 years ago 9
下面果位朋友知唔知咩叫私隱?
theodoricc 2 years ago 4
以上言論係由一個讀緊新聞系, 出左泥唔會入壹仔, 又好鐘意你地d歌唔想睇到你地衰既學生既一d個人意見, 當然你地可能其實有其他想法, 只係我誤會左, 我都希望係咁
bosschu 2 years ago
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無的放蕉只會俾機會對家笑自己,呀p你因為呢件事唔開心, 而用音樂去表達自己係無問題, 不過唔好跌入呢一d哲學陷阱, 都係果句, 係你想維護自己言論自由果時, 你都要專重人地既言論自由, 呢個case人地寫既係事實, 唔係亂寫, 頂多只係佢同你立場唔同, 未必係佢錯, 第日你或者其他社運人士打言論自由牌果時, 對家拎呢首歌出泥插你地無資格講言論自由果時就斃喇...
bosschu 2 years ago
首歌都無話 face 寫既唔係事實 ...
ASDF00HK 2 years ago
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mauimeou 2 years ago
re: bosschu: 7: "你想維護自己言論自由果時, 你都要專重人地既言論自由" .... 話佢唔岩, suggest 佢揾過份更好的工, 同言論自由係無關 ga bor!
仲有, 如前述, 呢個其實唔係言論自由果既問題. 而且, 無錯, 個人(individual)係有言論自由既, 但並不適合套用在公眾機構上. 不要開口埋口"哲學陷阱"
mauimeou 2 years ago 4
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再者, 批露你係tvb做既唔一定係ivy咖, 當然亦唔一定唔係, 因為一篇野, 資料來源可以係幾個記者, 所以係第個都唔出奇, 問題係就算ivy唔寫, 交左份稿上去, 呀老篇加多一句至去印, ivy都可以唔知情, 可能佢真係一心想幫你, 而罪魁禍首另有其人呢, 咁ivy咪食左隻死貓, 再者就係香港市民想睇嘛,
所以錯既係香港政府, 壹仔, 同埋香港市民, 而唔係ivy
況且ivy有可能係假名嘛,
上續
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu :5:首先, as for "咁ivy咪食左隻死貓" 真係, 無論ivy 係有冇份參與加salt 加醋, 佢都應該想清楚呢類magazine 係咪值得做. 首歌係help 佢多於其他.
"再者就係香港市民想睇嘛" 不要偷換概念. 你可能想講呢個係一個因果循環. 但傳媒有其把關的職責.
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
re: bosschu :6:"況且ivy有可能係假名嘛" 係, 甘就得啦, 你甘緊張做mud 呢. ivy 係一個十分之普通既名, 又冇姓. 所以, 呢首歌係幾acceptable 既bor.
如呢首歌披露了ivy 的全名, 其他個人資料, 如照片身高樣貌學歷, 私人生活甘, 我地聽眾亦不會幫p.
mauimeou 2 years ago 3
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續...
香港又無breach of confidence, 亦無法例去監管侵犯私隱,
係法律上係無問題wor, 呢樣野我地應該怨律政司同行政會議點解人地美國行左咁多年, 香港都未將呢兩樣野立法, 同最低工資一樣, 慢吞吞
上續...
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu: 4: "呢樣野我地應該怨律政司同行政會議點解人地美國行左咁多年, 香港都未將呢兩樣野立法, 同最低工資一樣, 慢吞吞"
甘即係你認同私隱係不應受到侵犯啦. 甘就夠. 做傳媒最緊要係操守, 呢個亦都係face 個名甘唔好既原因. 好多事不是一句法律冇監管就過得去. 你用呢個argument 只會把你自己和face /壹仔 (係你口中的壹仔, 因壹仔亦有好多"branch", 不想以偏蓋全) 一樣.
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
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拿, 中立分析, 呀p你最不滿既係佢問左陳志雲點睇
同你既dun tell my boss有違背姐
問題係, 當你有言論自由去咒罵曾蔭權果時,
人地同樣有言論自由去寫你既野出泥
家下佢寫既係事實, 即係唔構成誹謗啦,
太多字, 上續....唔好意思....
bosschu 2 years ago
re: bosschu: 1"人地同樣有言論自由去寫你既野出泥" no this is wrong..
個case 有d 唔同, 因為曾蔭權係公眾人物. face/ 其他傳媒/作家等亦可以寫曾蔭權. 君不見報章雜誌訪問其他人, 都會把其名x 去. 樣mosaic 去. 尤其係當時人表明唔想刊登. 而且君不見好多報章雜誌就算寫都會indirectly 甘寫某大xx機構.etc.
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
re: bosschu: 2: 而且訪問了陳生就係直接話左俾佢知公司有個甘既人做左甘既事, 關工作的, 後果可大可小. ivy 已出來做野, 這道理不會不明白.
當然可能ivy 都係身不尤己.
聽落首歌唔算真係駡ivy. 係導佢入正途吧.
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
re: bosschu: 3: 如果佢真為首歌覺得有點那個, 那未嘗不是好事, 因為當佢"仲可以嘅時候要趁早起行". 係真既. 話唔定佢將來會多謝p 呢.
話時話做得face, 都應有考慮過face 係好唔好. 做唔做得過, 佢做證明佢可能都係好like 睇呢類magazine 的某種人. 一首歌未必能點醒佢呢.
mauimeou 2 years ago 2
唔知Ivy點諗呢?
9up246 2 years ago 6
in fact i think if she really feel sth about the song, its good, she should rethink about her job, its a chance to change her life and her way of living.
mauimeou 2 years ago
以這個方式作回應真好
pony1124 2 years ago 6
寫得仲白過周博賢. 正!
fidolai 2 years ago
估吾到ivy係咁既人
dinerdisaster 2 years ago
咁咪幾好, 首歌清新得黎又得意, 識得體諒人, 有風度, 態度正面!
呢d歌唔會教壞小朋友, 好好做個榜樣喇!
唔好再叫人地去死喇
tomlilee 2 years ago
support you!
david8myk 2 years ago 2
support u ar p
lam052389 2 years ago 2
一向唔買呢d亂作雜誌=w=
ivy!雖然唔知你係邊位!不過當你仲可以嘅時候真係要趁早起行喇!!XP
YagamiRatio 2 years ago
如果我係ivy, 聽完之後會慚愧
heiwahandu 2 years ago
in fact i think if she really feel sth about the song, its good, she should rethink about her job, its a chance to change her life and her way of living.
mauimeou 2 years ago
最近做的歌都會收到以後的專輯中嗎?如果不收可以放MP3在mla官網下載么?因為從這裡提取的文件再轉MP3損失太多。謝啦
mingzsky 2 years ago
i love it!
savoycheung 2 years ago
勁!
c214 2 years ago