I rarely speak up on you tube about anything. Perhaps that makes me a troll. I really like what you have to say. Thank you for showing up. Von Helton thrives on negative feedback. In fact I'm going to silkscreen some pajamas with his image on them as I did with Charlie Manson. I have a right to do so. Charles M. don't like it..as if a give a fuck. He can't stop me.While I'm at it would you like me to make some PJ"s for you? This is very important. Let's discuss this.
After he spends $1000 to trademark your title simply put an asterisk after your title and keep going "legaly". If he does it again then get rid of the asterisk mark and put it in brackets....or get wild and put 2 asterisks. Its that simple. However this is assuming he is for real and this will happen.
I saw a "homeless" guy begging for money off of exit 228 (I-75) that looks exactly like you Montagraph. Now, I have no problem with you now trying to work that exit. But, the two regular guys (Randy, and Jack) aren't too happy with you working their spot. Just wanted to warn you since I consider you one of the better Inter-webbers. Oh, and good luck with your trademark Montagraph.
vanhelton also is a pedofile he is recorded on youtube asking for nude pictures of a 13 year old look it up its on you tube id post the link here but it wont let me for some reason dont sweat this ass hole dude they cannot trademark your videos those are your intellectual property you can not copyright or trademark other peoples work
@teamdelta9 no this is not true if he is not a business revenue there is nothing that the trademark holder can do i can by all rights open a youtube channel or facebook or even register a domain name say i call myself phil collins after the popular singer and even use it. there is nothing that the phil collins could do about it UNLESS i violate the corporate identity that is associated with his trademark
Your right about Google getting involved in a senario like this. What if someone big like sxephil had an action like this on his channel? That guy gets more views than network news analysts and I'm sure Google Adsense is doing great on his vids. Ain't no way Google would sit around and let their ad dollars fly away.
Time to read your member contract with youtube. Generally actions of the type being used on you are for money or to get you behind bars, trademark infringement. How did they get your phone number?
Anybody who knows anything about film and lighting, will tell you too get the best efect wear blue, and this looks like it is done by some person who knows what he is doing
I couldn't see you being sued because of your youtube alias. Also I have never seen anyone channel closed over this. Maybe someone did pay money to trademark it but they've most likey done nothing but waste their money. Even if a channel name is the same as a trademark I think the trademark holder would just have to work around it and come up with a youtube name that is not already taken. The only angle I could see them using is revenue from ads. Maybe turn the ads off, I don't know tbh....
If Chad Johnson changed his name to Ochocinco, change yours to Montagraph. Done, can't trademark your name. IDK, just a goofy thought. I like you and DEMCAD and JWR and all those other kooky freedom of speech/SHTF/WORLD ENDING, guys. You guys rock and have a lot of cool points. Stay strong brotha, no worries.
Laugh it off. Trademark is not designed to protect individuals. It is designed to protect consumers, FYI. I would like to see this stranger claim that your use of the YouTube ID confuses consumers looking for the "real" Montagraph.
If you get anything legal related in the mail, what have you, feel free to contact me for a free discussion. I'm an attorney.
@Montagraph To be more specific. Google can't just ask you to breach a contract when they became owners. Which they didn't, and couldn't. It's illegal. In turn, a 3rd party can't claim ownership of something they never owned.
@Montagraph Unlike Facebook, Youtube's expressed usership is allowed their own proprietorship, despite being bought out by Google. You got a pranked bud. You can't Trademark something when there's already a contract in place. I.E. you make a contract, when you make the account. -Worst case scenario, if I'm dead wrong, you could make a new channel and a video about this entire ordeal, and gain more subs than you've ever had. Because this is an interesting story.
"If you can't speak freely, you're simply not free." I don't mean for this to sound dumb, but... THANK YOU! I have been through hell and back in my life and it all seemed to "revolve around", "it being necessary to keep MY MOUTH SHUT!!!" Then that made the other person the only one that was heard which automatically put me in the "wrong!" And, I can't put my frustration into words!!! Until now! Cont'd...
So... listening to you SAY that... fixed something for me that began as a child- I am convinced that people treat you the way they see other people "getting away" with treating you! Know what I mean? Cont'd...
Wow... it is huge for me... to actually say whatever I want to... freely? And, that someone might listen? Even if NO ONE did, I can still talk!!! If "they" don't want to hear it, I can "let it out into the universe", maybe it will fall on their thick skulls! LOL:D I can only put a tiny part of the "HUGENESS" here:( But, thanks:)
An "account name" is not a trademark, therefore it is not a trademark infringement unless it is also used in the marketing or distribution of goods or services to others in a manner that is likely to cause confusion. It is sometimes possible to avoid confusion by including a disclaimer, such as : "this site is not affiliated with Buffalo Wild Wings or any of its subsidiaries, partners or suppliers." 3 days ago
I saw a news brief this evening that stated Google will begin deleting Personal User Accounts in the month of July. I'm guessing that by having your Online persona trademarked, that would exclude you from being considered a personal user. However, since you are not the one trademarking your Online persona, the 3rd party that is in the process of trademarking your name is probably also somehow affiliated with Youtube's parent company (Google), and thus they are trying to control / censor you. 8(
It can't be done Monty. For the simple fact that Your account & user name has pre existed before the trademark attempt. It's like if you submit an idea for a product & you mail yourself a copy of the idea. You'll have the post date that existed prior to the actual copyright. This is obviously a prank.
I think this must be a prank. However, the trademark is open to ANYONE until it is grabbed. That's my understanding. Still, I think someone was fucking with you.
Greetings, it is an old trick for a creep to find a sucessful name, business name, band name ect. that has not been registered as a dba or trademark in a state or country, register it under the creep's name and legally the creep owns it and can try and make you pay to use your own creation. I have paid from $22 to $85 to register the names of my projects. Several celebs do not own internet sites containing their names. Whoever called tipped you off.
I noticed your advertisements is encouraging others to vote for Obama in 2012. Is this part of your agenda? Also, could that have something to do with the call you received?
Public notice of your claim of ownership of the mark;
• A legal presumption of your ownership of the mark and your exclusive right to use the mark nationwide on or in connection with the goods/services listed in the registration;
You obviously have more than enough proof that "Montagraph" belongs to you. I work in an industry that deals with trademarks every day. Shrug this off....someone is screwing with you guys.
I'll bet you this derives from that 4409 video -USDA owns "Organic"-, the word, um yea ok... lol
Well they think etleast. Non the less I'll bet my bottom dollar thats where this began from. Tell them I said good luck. They are not the government I'm sure. lol
Not laughing at you bud just the ridiculousness of people at times. Yes is about silence no doubt. Keep rockin brother. Why anyone would waste their time on Von Helton now thats an enigma in itself. LOL
I don't think it'll work, seeing as you've owned the "Montagraph" name since....forever, and they JUST got a TM on it....it's STILL yours. Your channel will remain up and you MAY have some leeway to file suit.
@MeanBlackDude Exactly! I certainly would too. These ass clowns did not think this out too well, by looking at all the comments! Then again, I am not a Lawyer, but I think they spend money on me for no reason. What idiots! lol As soon as I find out who the party, parties are I will drop their info like a rock. I suppose they want something that THEY, cannot create! Good luck with that!
I still cant understand why people watch decade he has over a 1000 videos of what? he is a fraud, look how he started claiming to be unemployed and broke but next thing you know he is buying countless firearms left and right.
Folks, legal process costs money. 'Someone' has already spent money to begin 'silencing' Montegraph, Demcad, and Von Helton. Who knows how it will end up. They don't have any money to spend on this bullsh#t.
Criticize the 'elitists' behind the 'sock puppet' in the White House - and you get on an enemies list.
Folks, if you have NOT started preparing for SHTF - start Now. Buy a little extra food to store.
Two comments: 1) How did they get your phone #? If they got info from YT that was supposed to be private, you could sue. 2) You could contest the Trademark claim and easily win -- you clearly created the name and used it long before anyone else tried to stake a claim on it.
I wrote this over at DEM's channel...this is the NEW warfront. Soon, you'll see channels in the Alternative Media community with the "harvestable" names coming under fire by something that, all of a sudden, wants to claim their YT identity and, sadly, Montagraph sound COOL...
DEMCAD - start using "(TM)" after DEMCAD to assert your rights to the YouTube domain account name. It may not be possible to federally register the DEMCAD trademark though because it is not a domain name per se.
wow. just wow, monty. people are bat shit CRAZY! you might want to contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199 just to ask them a few of those questions. What bothers me is that they had your number. I know your selective on who gets it.....someone in that bunch is rotten. I agree with Ron tho, why did they pre-warn you? Why not just do it?
@RonaldoDeLosMuertos Oh I will challenge it alright and if I find that they are related in any way to these trolltards and they had done that out of spite, well, they certainly will pay for that IRL!
They may be able to trademark the names. However, unless they used the names prior to you using them, you can challenge the trademark. Whether they can shut you down, will depend on whether or not you are willing to fight the trademark. It sounds unlikely that someone would go to that extreme. But you may want to consult with an attorney. Or trademark the name yourself. KEEP ON PREPPING
I don't think they can trademark a name somebody has already been using and then claim exclusive rights to it. Especially if they mentioned several names, therefore proving they had prior knowledge the names were already in use. In my opinion... they are full of shit.
@officialusa The trademark office does not know that someone else was using the name. They would grant a trademark. It would then be up to the person who originally used the name to challenge the legality of the trademark. If it remains unchallenged it would be valid - and possibly enough to stop a youtube account. A similar situation happened with the CBS peacock logo.
i have this idea that it is hard to mess with. The earth is hollow. It has been strange for me to start thinking that. Has to be one or the other. Solid or hollow this means inner or concentric surface or no inner surface. Almost eveyone believes "solid" because of "authority" said so. The basic tactic to try to argue against the theory has to be abuse. What's the big deal unless it would alter the general perception of things, like heat or energy recovery.
What if one could easily get by with burning 1/10 of the total calories, but it was illegal to operate that way. Seems crazy right? With the complete banishment of certain simplistic technologies the monopoly remains in tact, The worst part of this is the nuclear meltdown consequence, and the removal of biofuel tech and clearn air and the clean jobs it would create. A biofuel op might be fairly ideal for cleaning toxic land or areas.
Here's one similar, but sequestered. Has to do with personal use of fire, and monopoly of fuel and use. It has been that way for longer than most elderly people can remember. If you haven't noticed, (and most folks don't or can't) Whenever we drive or produce power we chuck the heat as a waste product. Part of this has to do with banishment of technology, and part has to do with centralized production and control of power. Shortage is manufactured and Nukes are unnecessary.
Over here in UK, they had the Super Injunction. Rich men would stop newspapers publishing who they were having sex with. It got so ridiculous because a judge would say, "its a worldwide injunction. Nobody in the world can mention that Ryan Giggs was shagging Imogen Thomas or they will go to jail." That lasted about a week.
American people need to somehow defuse the threats from authority.
CONT...Whether intended or not, if the public would recognize and understand the trademark as identifying a particular person, consent is required.
Such public identification means the person is sufficiently known in the field of the product or service that an association between the person and the trademark will be made by the relevant public, or
The person is so well known that the name will invariably be associated with the person (such a Prince Charles).
A name “identifying a particular living individual” cannot be registered as a trademark without written consent. 15 U.S.C. §1052(c).
he name in question does not have to be a full, or legal, name.
This impediment to trademark and/or use protects privacy rights and publicity rights that living persons have in the designations that identify them.
Publicity rights of celebrities routinely survive their deaths, so the impediment to trademark registration and/or use extends to deceased celebrities.
@Montagraph Monty, clearly someone in Studio City (Hollywierd) is writing a screenplay about the drama going on in the intertubes and you, VH and DEMCAD are the leads, congratulations, negotiate a good royalty!!!
My question is how would trademarking those names benefit the trademark holder if you guys all stopped using those names? Those names wouldn't be worth squat. The only reason those names have any value is because of the content produced by the persons with those names. Do ya see what I am getting at? IF someone actually spent the money and time to trademark those names, they would be making a very poor investment because all of you would just produce your content under different names.
@MyRealityBytes I think because they can't compete and want to silence us because nothing else is working! They do not want the name for any business reasons, I can't imagine that they would - I am a nobody! I think that they are just doing it out of spite! I am not 100% sure, but it wouldn't surprise me!
@Montagraph that's gonna be a funny burn for them when they realize they wasted alot of money when y'all just make new channels with new names... ROFL
PLUS, Trade Marking a Unique Logo is far easier than a "word" regardless of how creative it sounds. One of the requirements is to provide a graphic "exemplar" of the "mark" to be captured as Intellectual Property. When the USPTO sees a single printed word, it automatically goes through and extensive research process to protect those who may already be using the name.
While "Patents" receive a temp. Pat. Pending number to begin manufacturing the product, Trade Marks have NO such temp. license.
Being awarded a "Trade Mark" is a long involved process that can take several years. They are not awarded easily. There are many hurdles to overcome ... look it up. It's costly as well and requires multiple hearings regarding the issuance of Trade Marks. Check out the packet of information that REQUIRES an Attorney (at some extensive cost) to file.
I've done a lot of Copyrights, several Trademarks and a few Patents myself. After I learned how to do it, I've been doing for myself since 1992. Now, the Trademark can be one of the most difficult to obtain, but it can be done. Trademarks can be more complicated than a patent because you have to demonstrate a lot. If you're Montagraph Inc, you'll have to show proof that your company and the Trademark are quite synonymous. The guy is completely full of shit and probably trying to tweak you.
Monty, clearly, the questions and objections you raise demonstrate just how completely absurd the callers assertion really is. File it under S for stupid.
you have lawful precedent as the owner of the name montegraph. and it has been officially recorded by your videos and the dates of the postings that precede any legal attempt to trademark. if he does do it which he may get away with, he will not be able to take any action against you as in a court of law he will lose as soon as you show the records and statistics from youtube. you will not even need a lawyer to defend this you can stand on your own in court and there is plenty of precedent.
@spyder666111 it is the same as sending yourself a registered letter it becomes official proof in a court of law. and your channel has been publicly displayed for all to see and take note of. the paper he may succeed in getting wont be worth the paper it is printed on. same as a band who takes a name and then gets discovered if another band of the same name can prove they had the name first the newer band must BUY the name off the older. in order to retain any rights to it.
I heard in the inter-fighting that followed the DOC -vs- End Time Watchman that DOC was filing copyright claims on the title of ENDTIMEWATCHMEN MAN etc. I suppose that if somebody has the financial wherewithall to file a claim, it would go to the federal court to decide. Now there is the "STRAWMAN" idealogy that people declair their soveragnty and copyright their name, and use that as a weapon to evade taxes and forclosures. I would look into it if possible. They have to publish it in a paper.
Strange man. I would say Prank. If it would come to a day in court, ANY Judge could see this persons reasons behind doing something like this. Simply And Only for the sake of owning/ruining 3 Very Well known Names on the Tubes. V. Helton yes, Automatic loose. But also you and Demcad, In a courtroom, I would Not see a problem ripping this cat to shreds. Good day. Joel.
Rumor has it that Preston Ware Orem tried that crap with the "Happy Birthday" song. (I continue singing it to my kids every year out of protest) That being said, someones yanking your chain Monty. You probably said the wrong thing and pissed off some pimple ridden college age dip shit with a bad attitude. If this had any legs EVERYONE on youtube who uses the word "Glock" or "Cupcake" in their screen name would be facing litigation.
The minute you begin using a name in any kind of "official or business capacity" you have Trademarked it.
Registering a trademark is a different story but it is not necessary to register your trademarks.
If you have an existing business name or real name or something, and someone else trademarks or uses the same or similar name, then you get into the legalities of it, but whoever had first use almost always wins.
The first step in any litigation in this is a CEASE AND DESIST notice.
We are in a Formal Police State and have been for the Last 6 Months. The Crack Downs, shutdowns, round ups are now starting. DEMCAD is now on the shit list because he helped DOC after the ATF tried to destroy him and shut him down.
they Can;t get a trademark if they can't prove they paid for it or were the originator of the Logo Period an they could go to Prison for Falsifying Federal documents if they make a False Claim as originator of the Mark aka Logo !
This is my opinion from what I have read and I too am not a trademark lawyer but I have done some research in the past.... This was done after you have been using this name for a long time so you would actually be able to file a trademark and take his stuff down. Seems like this is done to intimidate you and get you later on to pay some money. What I would do is file one as well and then have them research the trademark. You will have a longer term of use so they should award it to you.
@crank454 Also I think you should make sure you do some action since not doing anything may allow that person to actually get it. I would talk to an attorney though - it may be the other way around...who knows. You have long history using the name and the guy told you the other names he was going to TM as well so you all could complain about him as a group.
i think the simple explanation is that this was a phone call designed to intimidate any users who criticize mister helton (i believe the other two names are just thrown in to throw you off)...the idea is to make you think that any video you post of mister helton will come with legal consequences....im not lawyer...happy 4th...
@anyusmoon1 the name Mc Donald is Not trademarked the way it is presented the artistic design the font ect: is Protected under the Trademark Not the Name Mc Donald's look i a phone book Thousand of people named Mc Donald For Instance Mc Donald's plumbing with a different font an different Business is not a copyright infringement ! So your statement is Crap! the only thing you own is the Design !
@theylive1984rm First, there's no need to have a 'tone' or 'words' with me. I'm sympathetic to what is happening to these men, demcad, monty etc, and think it is fishy. Next, the last name thing is established and made pretty clear in monty's video its montagraph and demcad that are at issue. Finally, if your company doesn't trademark or tradename first your are s.o.l. If this were to become meaningful to the owners of the creative product later it would / could be an issue.
PRINCE changed his name into a symbol because the record label had rights to that name as you know we all could listen to his music just we had to seek it by saying the artists formerly known as Prince. He basically suceed from the label sucessfully the label could not touch his new earnings he offically changed his name and began earning money under another name. According to usptodotorg you have to be very speciffic as to what you intend to trademark. if they trademark it do like Prince did?
@cdltpx They will run out of money before you run out of names to call yourself then say the artists formerly known as Montagraph. Someone might have the money to do this but you can simply call yourself the artists formerly known as and there is nothing they can do about it.
@Talexa66 That or file the paperwork to protect your trademark it is a DIY project if you want to deal with it most will hire an attorney you could find a paraleagal that worked with that stuff they can offer you help but you are ultimately responsible for any errors. That way if you are really sucessful and decide to sell something with your brand on it they will not beat your to the punch with it but if you are on here as DC MGPH VH just sharing the news and views Y bother no real $ made.
Could be a prank but i just don't see that...someone looking at the trends and realize you guys(maybe not von) are telling the TRUTH. they see a possibility of you catching on and maybe making a few bucks? Option 2 is try and shut you up. Problem with that it will give you more credibility.
Sorry i own copy rights to music an motion pictures an ''you can't copyright a title'' or name. Trademarks are only given if you can prove a need an you can prove you paid for the design of the Trademark or were the Originator of it a trademark is not handed out willy nilly its a picture or artistic Logo like the Quaker Oats Guy !
This was some Completely Ignorant Douche Bag ! Bordering on Retardation ! !
@theylive1984rm You are right and wrong. Trade Marks are wholly different than copyrights. Trade Marks are akin to Patents. However, WORDS CAN BE TRADE MARKED. The proof of the "uniqueness" is a test that requests for "word" Trade Marks generally fail. Unique phrases are more readily "marked" ... but single words are unusual at best.
Neither "COCA" or "COLA" is Trade Markable, while "COCA-COLA" has been granted a "TM". But ... that name was used 100 years ago...and was unique as a branded name.
@grizzzlyjoe yes but you still have to prove you paid for it or you originated it /invented discovered or found it with out dispute of ownership! Montagraph was published on youtube a public Forum so unless they can show they Originated it be for it was Published they will never get a Trademark unless they purchase it from the Inventor/creator, or are/were employed by the Applicant for Trademark to Create/invent
@grizzzlyjoe You use coca cola as an example they could show documented prof they coined the phrase an had Monetary investment in that phrase.Via Advertising an Publishing . the Phrase COCA-Cola was originated by them !
Well Monty, keep doing your thing bro! You and Reginald(Demcad) are great, and I love ya both for what you both do. This is the only way these dumb asses can handle or deal with you guys. Let's see if youtube will stand up for you guys. They probably won't , but I hope they will. Screw the powers that be, because they're a bunch of cowards. They understand that you all get through with truth from the things that you show, and also with the things that you say. They're scared...Ya gotta love it!
How could they do that and have it work? You could change your name to an infinite number of names. How could they buy them all? I wouldn't worry about that.... If they do it, just do Montagraph1, 2, 3, 4 etc etc
only thing i can think of why they would do this to demcad is cuz he keeps in touch with sacramaniacs n stuff, but whats the connection between you von and demcad?
ok monty if i wanted to make a movie about youtubing phenomena wouldnt i need your permission unless i already "own" the name.nevertheless i'd call it crank but be checking movie listings and see brad pitt playing von lol
you cant trademark a humans name
deepsouthredneck1 1 month ago
huh.....*scratches head*
kiltcult3170 1 month ago
So what happened with this?
watchmannoyes 2 months ago
@watchmannoyes i was thinking the same
Grey1671 1 month ago
this fuckhead montotile is a confirmed reptile
ThePunisherNWO 2 months ago
I rarely speak up on you tube about anything. Perhaps that makes me a troll. I really like what you have to say. Thank you for showing up. Von Helton thrives on negative feedback. In fact I'm going to silkscreen some pajamas with his image on them as I did with Charlie Manson. I have a right to do so. Charles M. don't like it..as if a give a fuck. He can't stop me.While I'm at it would you like me to make some PJ"s for you? This is very important. Let's discuss this.
ImrieFB 3 months ago
None of the words are registered trademarks. "Von Helton" , "Demcad" , "Montagraph" The trademark system is easily checked online.
slump75 4 months ago
After he spends $1000 to trademark your title simply put an asterisk after your title and keep going "legaly". If he does it again then get rid of the asterisk mark and put it in brackets....or get wild and put 2 asterisks. Its that simple. However this is assuming he is for real and this will happen.
mrdeuce76 4 months ago
You may want to take this down this video before some nwo stoolie with money gets a bright idea.
LIBERTYDOGG77 4 months ago
Tell to take it to court. Fight the power bother I'm on your side
maleslave1 5 months ago
I saw a "homeless" guy begging for money off of exit 228 (I-75) that looks exactly like you Montagraph. Now, I have no problem with you now trying to work that exit. But, the two regular guys (Randy, and Jack) aren't too happy with you working their spot. Just wanted to warn you since I consider you one of the better Inter-webbers. Oh, and good luck with your trademark Montagraph.
mightybuffoon 5 months ago
vanhelton also is a pedofile he is recorded on youtube asking for nude pictures of a 13 year old look it up its on you tube id post the link here but it wont let me for some reason dont sweat this ass hole dude they cannot trademark your videos those are your intellectual property you can not copyright or trademark other peoples work
DJM4EVER1 6 months ago
@teamdelta9 no this is not true if he is not a business revenue there is nothing that the trademark holder can do i can by all rights open a youtube channel or facebook or even register a domain name say i call myself phil collins after the popular singer and even use it. there is nothing that the phil collins could do about it UNLESS i violate the corporate identity that is associated with his trademark
DJM4EVER1 6 months ago
Your right about Google getting involved in a senario like this. What if someone big like sxephil had an action like this on his channel? That guy gets more views than network news analysts and I'm sure Google Adsense is doing great on his vids. Ain't no way Google would sit around and let their ad dollars fly away.
TruthCeeker333 6 months ago
VonHelton is a toothless vampire.
PorkyDress 6 months ago
Follow this link and trip balls...
atlantismarketingsystems(dot)com (backslash) financial-advertising (backslash) the-strangest-call-von-helton-demcad-montagraph-trademarks
kyle92223 6 months ago
RIP von pedo
herebemolesters6 7 months ago
Time to read your member contract with youtube. Generally actions of the type being used on you are for money or to get you behind bars, trademark infringement. How did they get your phone number?
thejahoflife 7 months ago
What if it's google/youtube?
maybe to protect you? meh donno... Face book owns the shit you post.. Why can't google.
GuyApollo 7 months ago
What if it's google/youtube?
GuyApollo 7 months ago
don't worry! your right! you should just change your name as soon as they waste there money...everyone will just change there pc addy for you you/
coldshot5555 7 months ago
why would anyone want to silence you? what is it that you have said that needs silenced ?
CHASCHARLTON 7 months ago
Anybody who knows anything about film and lighting, will tell you too get the best efect wear blue, and this looks like it is done by some person who knows what he is doing
10urquhart 7 months ago
I like your nice Royal blue curtains behind you, very profesional
10urquhart 7 months ago
@10urquhart they look black to me...
ltys12199 7 months ago
more made up drama give me a break, noone called you, you are deluded !!
strongnofear2 7 months ago
I couldn't see you being sued because of your youtube alias. Also I have never seen anyone channel closed over this. Maybe someone did pay money to trademark it but they've most likey done nothing but waste their money. Even if a channel name is the same as a trademark I think the trademark holder would just have to work around it and come up with a youtube name that is not already taken. The only angle I could see them using is revenue from ads. Maybe turn the ads off, I don't know tbh....
Carnuss 7 months ago
If Chad Johnson changed his name to Ochocinco, change yours to Montagraph. Done, can't trademark your name. IDK, just a goofy thought. I like you and DEMCAD and JWR and all those other kooky freedom of speech/SHTF/WORLD ENDING, guys. You guys rock and have a lot of cool points. Stay strong brotha, no worries.
johnfromm1974 7 months ago
this is not 2 girls 1 cup
Filipa1122 7 months ago
ITS ISSAC CLARKE!
AntiWhiskers 7 months ago
Laugh it off. Trademark is not designed to protect individuals. It is designed to protect consumers, FYI. I would like to see this stranger claim that your use of the YouTube ID confuses consumers looking for the "real" Montagraph.
If you get anything legal related in the mail, what have you, feel free to contact me for a free discussion. I'm an attorney.
Don't give this a further thought.
Peace,
Rob
LiftAloft 7 months ago
@teamdelta9 Let em sue me, then I will have all their info, good trade!
Montagraph 7 months ago
@Montagraph To be more specific. Google can't just ask you to breach a contract when they became owners. Which they didn't, and couldn't. It's illegal. In turn, a 3rd party can't claim ownership of something they never owned.
FoxDavidson 7 months ago
@Montagraph Unlike Facebook, Youtube's expressed usership is allowed their own proprietorship, despite being bought out by Google. You got a pranked bud. You can't Trademark something when there's already a contract in place. I.E. you make a contract, when you make the account. -Worst case scenario, if I'm dead wrong, you could make a new channel and a video about this entire ordeal, and gain more subs than you've ever had. Because this is an interesting story.
FoxDavidson 7 months ago
"If you can't speak freely, you're simply not free." I don't mean for this to sound dumb, but... THANK YOU! I have been through hell and back in my life and it all seemed to "revolve around", "it being necessary to keep MY MOUTH SHUT!!!" Then that made the other person the only one that was heard which automatically put me in the "wrong!" And, I can't put my frustration into words!!! Until now! Cont'd...
BirdOfParadise777 7 months ago
So... listening to you SAY that... fixed something for me that began as a child- I am convinced that people treat you the way they see other people "getting away" with treating you! Know what I mean? Cont'd...
BirdOfParadise777 7 months ago
Wow... it is huge for me... to actually say whatever I want to... freely? And, that someone might listen? Even if NO ONE did, I can still talk!!! If "they" don't want to hear it, I can "let it out into the universe", maybe it will fall on their thick skulls! LOL:D I can only put a tiny part of the "HUGENESS" here:( But, thanks:)
BOP
BirdOfParadise777 7 months ago
.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110704001502AAkHGyc
An "account name" is not a trademark, therefore it is not a trademark infringement unless it is also used in the marketing or distribution of goods or services to others in a manner that is likely to cause confusion. It is sometimes possible to avoid confusion by including a disclaimer, such as : "this site is not affiliated with Buffalo Wild Wings or any of its subsidiaries, partners or suppliers." 3 days ago
catharine1967 7 months ago
I saw a news brief this evening that stated Google will begin deleting Personal User Accounts in the month of July. I'm guessing that by having your Online persona trademarked, that would exclude you from being considered a personal user. However, since you are not the one trademarking your Online persona, the 3rd party that is in the process of trademarking your name is probably also somehow affiliated with Youtube's parent company (Google), and thus they are trying to control / censor you. 8(
JKasiah 7 months ago
nobody wants to trademark g4t.
35slave 7 months ago
It can't be done Monty. For the simple fact that Your account & user name has pre existed before the trademark attempt. It's like if you submit an idea for a product & you mail yourself a copy of the idea. You'll have the post date that existed prior to the actual copyright. This is obviously a prank.
wingnut4427 7 months ago
I think this must be a prank. However, the trademark is open to ANYONE until it is grabbed. That's my understanding. Still, I think someone was fucking with you.
euphorial 7 months ago
Shoulda recorded it lol
serrotecnal 7 months ago
Greetings, it is an old trick for a creep to find a sucessful name, business name, band name ect. that has not been registered as a dba or trademark in a state or country, register it under the creep's name and legally the creep owns it and can try and make you pay to use your own creation. I have paid from $22 to $85 to register the names of my projects. Several celebs do not own internet sites containing their names. Whoever called tipped you off.
1Skyscamp 7 months ago
if they don't have your permission with your signature, they are fucked !
baboonsquadron 8 months ago
I noticed your advertisements is encouraging others to vote for Obama in 2012. Is this part of your agenda? Also, could that have something to do with the call you received?
JustLavender 8 months ago 2
@JustLavender Get a grip! I have NOTHING to do with which ads are posted!
Montagraph 7 months ago
@Montagraph The question was only raised at what I saw...No malice was intended. But I did decide to get a grip and unsub.
JustLavender 7 months ago 6
@JustLavender Good! Because NOW you are blocked so you do not accidently come back to complain!
Montagraph 7 months ago
@Montagraph
hey monty i see the ad here is encouraging me to go to lansing community college , is that part of your agenda? lmao! j/k
some people...
ej4206669 7 months ago
@ej4206669 No.lol
Montagraph 7 months ago
They want to because they are jealous of your sub & video views.
TheBummereffectx 8 months ago
Public notice of your claim of ownership of the mark;
• A legal presumption of your ownership of the mark and your exclusive right to use the mark nationwide on or in connection with the goods/services listed in the registration;
northpal2 8 months ago
There's a place on the internet called tradeMarkia that you can file a US trade mark on logos, slogans and names for $159.00
ArizonaChris96 8 months ago
don't get yourself all worked up, little/big brother, LOVE ya!
mrsgmason 8 months ago in playlist 00
Natural Law always trumps the legal system.
trybal007 8 months ago
I call BS on the caller. They would have served you with some type of paperwork.
ShooterReview 8 months ago
You obviously have more than enough proof that "Montagraph" belongs to you. I work in an industry that deals with trademarks every day. Shrug this off....someone is screwing with you guys.
KoryMcWeaver 8 months ago
Commie Fornia , Land Of The Fruits And Nuts . Where Common Sence Is An Endangered Species
tracycolorado 8 months ago
You said it bro. DEMCAD is one of the coolest people on the tubes.
SCL0PS 8 months ago
idk man. ford couldnt us the gt 40 name anymore cause someone trademark it.
skinsup84 8 months ago
I'll bet you this derives from that 4409 video -USDA owns "Organic"-, the word, um yea ok... lol
Well they think etleast. Non the less I'll bet my bottom dollar thats where this began from. Tell them I said good luck. They are not the government I'm sure. lol
Not laughing at you bud just the ridiculousness of people at times. Yes is about silence no doubt. Keep rockin brother. Why anyone would waste their time on Von Helton now thats an enigma in itself. LOL
SheepDoggOne 8 months ago
i seriously doubt they will be able to trademark a god damn thing \ sounds like a someone has a personal vendetta.
jayliovesnomore 8 months ago
I don't think it'll work, seeing as you've owned the "Montagraph" name since....forever, and they JUST got a TM on it....it's STILL yours. Your channel will remain up and you MAY have some leeway to file suit.
MeanBlackDude 8 months ago
@MeanBlackDude Exactly! I certainly would too. These ass clowns did not think this out too well, by looking at all the comments! Then again, I am not a Lawyer, but I think they spend money on me for no reason. What idiots! lol As soon as I find out who the party, parties are I will drop their info like a rock. I suppose they want something that THEY, cannot create! Good luck with that!
Montagraph 8 months ago
I still cant understand why people watch decade he has over a 1000 videos of what? he is a fraud, look how he started claiming to be unemployed and broke but next thing you know he is buying countless firearms left and right.
cbr6864 8 months ago
Folks, legal process costs money. 'Someone' has already spent money to begin 'silencing' Montegraph, Demcad, and Von Helton. Who knows how it will end up. They don't have any money to spend on this bullsh#t.
Criticize the 'elitists' behind the 'sock puppet' in the White House - and you get on an enemies list.
Folks, if you have NOT started preparing for SHTF - start Now. Buy a little extra food to store.
1023471965 8 months ago
Two comments: 1) How did they get your phone #? If they got info from YT that was supposed to be private, you could sue. 2) You could contest the Trademark claim and easily win -- you clearly created the name and used it long before anyone else tried to stake a claim on it.
FoodOrFail 8 months ago
Smells like Troll food to me Monty.. I have trademarked a business name before..
You have used your name way before this and no court would hold it up. lol
Someone is messing with you bro... Troll stew with chunks of poo..
NibiruMagick2012 8 months ago 4
"NO" That's Bullshit! Thanks for posting! Peace! .V,,
i8topees 8 months ago
Prank call. They are your guys' names. The person can pull stuff, but you used them first.
starlitopensky1 8 months ago
How in the hell did they get your number???? Sounds like some illegal ish!!!
offthahook08 8 months ago
I wrote this over at DEM's channel...this is the NEW warfront. Soon, you'll see channels in the Alternative Media community with the "harvestable" names coming under fire by something that, all of a sudden, wants to claim their YT identity and, sadly, Montagraph sound COOL...
ScorpiusIncorruptus 8 months ago
DEMCAD - start using "(TM)" after DEMCAD to assert your rights to the YouTube domain account name. It may not be possible to federally register the DEMCAD trademark though because it is not a domain name per se.
stoneypointclimber 8 months ago
i belive thats there last thing to do... and it wont work out so they will probably stop after this.. GL monty
peace
GOD BLESS
Fabiano154789 8 months ago
wow. just wow, monty. people are bat shit CRAZY! you might want to contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199 just to ask them a few of those questions. What bothers me is that they had your number. I know your selective on who gets it.....someone in that bunch is rotten. I agree with Ron tho, why did they pre-warn you? Why not just do it?
jakluk4 8 months ago
If they were going to do it at all, why would they tell you about it first? It would make more sense to just do it with out your knowledge.
RonaldoDeLosMuertos 8 months ago
There is no way they could ever trade mark your shit, unless they can prove they own it. You can challenge it and prove that you are the owner.
RonaldoDeLosMuertos 8 months ago
@RonaldoDeLosMuertos Oh I will challenge it alright and if I find that they are related in any way to these trolltards and they had done that out of spite, well, they certainly will pay for that IRL!
Montagraph 8 months ago
write a letter, mail it to yourself its copy written at that point.
offthahook08 8 months ago
@offthahook08 Dont forget to screen shot your youtube channel in the letter....
offthahook08 8 months ago
First of all how the hell did they get your phone number? This is bullshit from the Communist Calif broadway Obamass worshipers!!
MrSlyRedFox 8 months ago
They may be able to trademark the names. However, unless they used the names prior to you using them, you can challenge the trademark. Whether they can shut you down, will depend on whether or not you are willing to fight the trademark. It sounds unlikely that someone would go to that extreme. But you may want to consult with an attorney. Or trademark the name yourself. KEEP ON PREPPING
PatriotPrepper 8 months ago
I don't think they can trademark a name somebody has already been using and then claim exclusive rights to it. Especially if they mentioned several names, therefore proving they had prior knowledge the names were already in use. In my opinion... they are full of shit.
officialusa 8 months ago
@officialusa The trademark office does not know that someone else was using the name. They would grant a trademark. It would then be up to the person who originally used the name to challenge the legality of the trademark. If it remains unchallenged it would be valid - and possibly enough to stop a youtube account. A similar situation happened with the CBS peacock logo.
PatriotPrepper 8 months ago
they could use it to shut up anyone who does not preach their line of BS
waltersfriend 8 months ago
dam i dont like the thought of these dudes having your number......
mutchie6g 8 months ago
Trademarking someone else's YT name?
HAHAHAHAHA!
Whoever blew that smoke up your rear is a failure
Katfellow 8 months ago
i have this idea that it is hard to mess with. The earth is hollow. It has been strange for me to start thinking that. Has to be one or the other. Solid or hollow this means inner or concentric surface or no inner surface. Almost eveyone believes "solid" because of "authority" said so. The basic tactic to try to argue against the theory has to be abuse. What's the big deal unless it would alter the general perception of things, like heat or energy recovery.
hypnofan35 8 months ago
What if one could easily get by with burning 1/10 of the total calories, but it was illegal to operate that way. Seems crazy right? With the complete banishment of certain simplistic technologies the monopoly remains in tact, The worst part of this is the nuclear meltdown consequence, and the removal of biofuel tech and clearn air and the clean jobs it would create. A biofuel op might be fairly ideal for cleaning toxic land or areas.
hypnofan35 8 months ago
Here's one similar, but sequestered. Has to do with personal use of fire, and monopoly of fuel and use. It has been that way for longer than most elderly people can remember. If you haven't noticed, (and most folks don't or can't) Whenever we drive or produce power we chuck the heat as a waste product. Part of this has to do with banishment of technology, and part has to do with centralized production and control of power. Shortage is manufactured and Nukes are unnecessary.
hypnofan35 8 months ago
i notice that DECAD was speaking about a similar incident. Maybe this is why people put numbers after their names.
hypnofan35 8 months ago
Usage is copyright. All have used handles for a long enough time to establish copyright. This can be effectively challenged.
VerifiedNews 8 months ago
I would just like to copyright and trademark the world "The"
it'd make billions!
1x93cm 8 months ago
Over here in UK, they had the Super Injunction. Rich men would stop newspapers publishing who they were having sex with. It got so ridiculous because a judge would say, "its a worldwide injunction. Nobody in the world can mention that Ryan Giggs was shagging Imogen Thomas or they will go to jail." That lasted about a week.
American people need to somehow defuse the threats from authority.
stuntpea 8 months ago
IGNORANT DOUCHE BAG TM
BORDERING ON RETARDATION TM
YOUTUBE DRAMA TM
LOL TM
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
a trademark costs $350.00 USD per name. it won't shut anyone up but it would prevent anyone using the name without legal issues.
Bettybubblegum2012 8 months ago
YOUTUBE Drama it getting better than STRABUCKS tm
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
CONT...Whether intended or not, if the public would recognize and understand the trademark as identifying a particular person, consent is required.
Such public identification means the person is sufficiently known in the field of the product or service that an association between the person and the trademark will be made by the relevant public, or
The person is so well known that the name will invariably be associated with the person (such a Prince Charles).
dasupa666 8 months ago
A name “identifying a particular living individual” cannot be registered as a trademark without written consent. 15 U.S.C. §1052(c).
he name in question does not have to be a full, or legal, name.
This impediment to trademark and/or use protects privacy rights and publicity rights that living persons have in the designations that identify them.
Publicity rights of celebrities routinely survive their deaths, so the impediment to trademark registration and/or use extends to deceased celebrities.
dasupa666 8 months ago 3
i wanna trademark the word "and" or "&" LOL
glasseay 8 months ago
@glasseay Lol, oops I owe you a quarter!
Montagraph 8 months ago
@Montagraph Monty, clearly someone in Studio City (Hollywierd) is writing a screenplay about the drama going on in the intertubes and you, VH and DEMCAD are the leads, congratulations, negotiate a good royalty!!!
Crimble67 8 months ago
@glasseay I want to trademark 'LOL' - gotha ;)
jahabdank 8 months ago
@jahabdank well infact we have bouth ben out done
the singer from the band KISS put a trademark on "OJ"
so til this day every time a orange juce company use that shortage
they must pay
thats realy realy cleaver
glasseay 8 months ago
i think your caller was full of shit, pretty much lol
realmofoz 8 months ago
My question is how would trademarking those names benefit the trademark holder if you guys all stopped using those names? Those names wouldn't be worth squat. The only reason those names have any value is because of the content produced by the persons with those names. Do ya see what I am getting at? IF someone actually spent the money and time to trademark those names, they would be making a very poor investment because all of you would just produce your content under different names.
MyRealityBytes 8 months ago
@MyRealityBytes I think because they can't compete and want to silence us because nothing else is working! They do not want the name for any business reasons, I can't imagine that they would - I am a nobody! I think that they are just doing it out of spite! I am not 100% sure, but it wouldn't surprise me!
Montagraph 8 months ago 2
@Montagraph that's gonna be a funny burn for them when they realize they wasted alot of money when y'all just make new channels with new names... ROFL
reminds me of Rawdoglet and his YTKilledRawdog
1x93cm 8 months ago
PLUS, Trade Marking a Unique Logo is far easier than a "word" regardless of how creative it sounds. One of the requirements is to provide a graphic "exemplar" of the "mark" to be captured as Intellectual Property. When the USPTO sees a single printed word, it automatically goes through and extensive research process to protect those who may already be using the name.
While "Patents" receive a temp. Pat. Pending number to begin manufacturing the product, Trade Marks have NO such temp. license.
grizzzlyjoe 8 months ago
@grizzzlyjoe A Better example would be STARBUCKS tm they Trademarked the Phrase SHARED PLANET tm
because they employe people to invent phrases. they can show they have monetary investment in the discovering/inventing creating of that phrase.
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
Being awarded a "Trade Mark" is a long involved process that can take several years. They are not awarded easily. There are many hurdles to overcome ... look it up. It's costly as well and requires multiple hearings regarding the issuance of Trade Marks. Check out the packet of information that REQUIRES an Attorney (at some extensive cost) to file.
YOU'VE BEEN PRANKED.
grizzzlyjoe 8 months ago
This sounds similar to what happened to NSMdoc during his personal legal problems.
HydroCarbine 8 months ago
How did you trace the number if it was blocked?
VerisonMember 8 months ago
I've done a lot of Copyrights, several Trademarks and a few Patents myself. After I learned how to do it, I've been doing for myself since 1992. Now, the Trademark can be one of the most difficult to obtain, but it can be done. Trademarks can be more complicated than a patent because you have to demonstrate a lot. If you're Montagraph Inc, you'll have to show proof that your company and the Trademark are quite synonymous. The guy is completely full of shit and probably trying to tweak you.
cronoslogic 8 months ago
Monty, clearly, the questions and objections you raise demonstrate just how completely absurd the callers assertion really is. File it under S for stupid.
dicom 8 months ago
you have lawful precedent as the owner of the name montegraph. and it has been officially recorded by your videos and the dates of the postings that precede any legal attempt to trademark. if he does do it which he may get away with, he will not be able to take any action against you as in a court of law he will lose as soon as you show the records and statistics from youtube. you will not even need a lawyer to defend this you can stand on your own in court and there is plenty of precedent.
spyder666111 8 months ago
@spyder666111 it is the same as sending yourself a registered letter it becomes official proof in a court of law. and your channel has been publicly displayed for all to see and take note of. the paper he may succeed in getting wont be worth the paper it is printed on. same as a band who takes a name and then gets discovered if another band of the same name can prove they had the name first the newer band must BUY the name off the older. in order to retain any rights to it.
spyder666111 8 months ago
@spyder666111 or change names.
spyder666111 8 months ago
Don't know much about Trademarks.....but skidmarks in your underwear suck!!!! Keep us informed and Happy 4th Bro.
freebird086 8 months ago
More B.S. from Kalifornia.
I agree with TheEastWatch ..post below.
IronRangeSurvival 8 months ago
I heard in the inter-fighting that followed the DOC -vs- End Time Watchman that DOC was filing copyright claims on the title of ENDTIMEWATCHMEN MAN etc. I suppose that if somebody has the financial wherewithall to file a claim, it would go to the federal court to decide. Now there is the "STRAWMAN" idealogy that people declair their soveragnty and copyright their name, and use that as a weapon to evade taxes and forclosures. I would look into it if possible. They have to publish it in a paper.
jkejr 8 months ago
Legal Beagle games... Thats great
DeliveryCamMan 8 months ago
Strange man. I would say Prank. If it would come to a day in court, ANY Judge could see this persons reasons behind doing something like this. Simply And Only for the sake of owning/ruining 3 Very Well known Names on the Tubes. V. Helton yes, Automatic loose. But also you and Demcad, In a courtroom, I would Not see a problem ripping this cat to shreds. Good day. Joel.
hotheadedjoelhaha 8 months ago
Rumor has it that Preston Ware Orem tried that crap with the "Happy Birthday" song. (I continue singing it to my kids every year out of protest) That being said, someones yanking your chain Monty. You probably said the wrong thing and pissed off some pimple ridden college age dip shit with a bad attitude. If this had any legs EVERYONE on youtube who uses the word "Glock" or "Cupcake" in their screen name would be facing litigation.
raven8699 8 months ago
Wild, keep us posted...
mrgoodvibrations 8 months ago
Why is there an advertisement to apply for citizenship next to your mug?
Uaz31 8 months ago
The minute you begin using a name in any kind of "official or business capacity" you have Trademarked it.
Registering a trademark is a different story but it is not necessary to register your trademarks.
If you have an existing business name or real name or something, and someone else trademarks or uses the same or similar name, then you get into the legalities of it, but whoever had first use almost always wins.
The first step in any litigation in this is a CEASE AND DESIST notice.
-TEW
theeastwatch 8 months ago 6
well if utube is involed in this woudnt they sent u a massage through utube or ur email?
eddythelol 8 months ago
Know nothing about trademarks but know a lot about people.
Blowing smoke up your ass Monty ~
RenegadeTimes 8 months ago 2
@RenegadeTimes I am not so sure?
Montagraph 8 months ago
@Montagraph Google this...should help. MarketingSherpa: New YouTube Username Trademark Policy Can Hurt ...
dasupa666 8 months ago
@Montagraph It seems that selling a product can be affected without a trademarkt.
Are you and the 2 other's selling something here ? Perhaps I missed that .
RenegadeTimes 8 months ago
We are in a Formal Police State and have been for the Last 6 Months. The Crack Downs, shutdowns, round ups are now starting. DEMCAD is now on the shit list because he helped DOC after the ATF tried to destroy him and shut him down.
Magnus2552112 8 months ago
strange u may have to send N W O soldier to talk some sence into him stay safe
wetsailer 8 months ago
they Can;t get a trademark if they can't prove they paid for it or were the originator of the Logo Period an they could go to Prison for Falsifying Federal documents if they make a False Claim as originator of the Mark aka Logo !
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
I dont think you can 'trademark' someones name. Sounds like some dork to me.
davids11131113 8 months ago
This is my opinion from what I have read and I too am not a trademark lawyer but I have done some research in the past.... This was done after you have been using this name for a long time so you would actually be able to file a trademark and take his stuff down. Seems like this is done to intimidate you and get you later on to pay some money. What I would do is file one as well and then have them research the trademark. You will have a longer term of use so they should award it to you.
crank454 8 months ago
@crank454 Also I think you should make sure you do some action since not doing anything may allow that person to actually get it. I would talk to an attorney though - it may be the other way around...who knows. You have long history using the name and the guy told you the other names he was going to TM as well so you all could complain about him as a group.
crank454 8 months ago
i think the simple explanation is that this was a phone call designed to intimidate any users who criticize mister helton (i believe the other two names are just thrown in to throw you off)...the idea is to make you think that any video you post of mister helton will come with legal consequences....im not lawyer...happy 4th...
thebackbencher666 8 months ago
It'll never happen captain.
MrSpockZilla1 8 months ago
If someone trademarks a thing (a name) they own it. Its pretty much a story of 'first come first serve'. If you don't do it before they do, tough.
anyusmoon1 8 months ago
@anyusmoon1 the name Mc Donald is Not trademarked the way it is presented the artistic design the font ect: is Protected under the Trademark Not the Name Mc Donald's look i a phone book Thousand of people named Mc Donald For Instance Mc Donald's plumbing with a different font an different Business is not a copyright infringement ! So your statement is Crap! the only thing you own is the Design !
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
@theylive1984rm First, there's no need to have a 'tone' or 'words' with me. I'm sympathetic to what is happening to these men, demcad, monty etc, and think it is fishy. Next, the last name thing is established and made pretty clear in monty's video its montagraph and demcad that are at issue. Finally, if your company doesn't trademark or tradename first your are s.o.l. If this were to become meaningful to the owners of the creative product later it would / could be an issue.
anyusmoon1 8 months ago
PRINCE changed his name into a symbol because the record label had rights to that name as you know we all could listen to his music just we had to seek it by saying the artists formerly known as Prince. He basically suceed from the label sucessfully the label could not touch his new earnings he offically changed his name and began earning money under another name. According to usptodotorg you have to be very speciffic as to what you intend to trademark. if they trademark it do like Prince did?
cdltpx 8 months ago
@cdltpx They will run out of money before you run out of names to call yourself then say the artists formerly known as Montagraph. Someone might have the money to do this but you can simply call yourself the artists formerly known as and there is nothing they can do about it.
cdltpx 8 months ago 2
@cdltpx That's what I was thinking. If something actually comes of it change your name just at little and keep going. :)
Talexa66 8 months ago
@Talexa66 That or file the paperwork to protect your trademark it is a DIY project if you want to deal with it most will hire an attorney you could find a paraleagal that worked with that stuff they can offer you help but you are ultimately responsible for any errors. That way if you are really sucessful and decide to sell something with your brand on it they will not beat your to the punch with it but if you are on here as DC MGPH VH just sharing the news and views Y bother no real $ made.
cdltpx 8 months ago
Could be a prank but i just don't see that...someone looking at the trends and realize you guys(maybe not von) are telling the TRUTH. they see a possibility of you catching on and maybe making a few bucks? Option 2 is try and shut you up. Problem with that it will give you more credibility.
cowboyfourman 8 months ago
Sorry i own copy rights to music an motion pictures an ''you can't copyright a title'' or name. Trademarks are only given if you can prove a need an you can prove you paid for the design of the Trademark or were the Originator of it a trademark is not handed out willy nilly its a picture or artistic Logo like the Quaker Oats Guy !
This was some Completely Ignorant Douche Bag ! Bordering on Retardation ! !
theylive1984rm 8 months ago 17
@theylive1984rm You are right and wrong. Trade Marks are wholly different than copyrights. Trade Marks are akin to Patents. However, WORDS CAN BE TRADE MARKED. The proof of the "uniqueness" is a test that requests for "word" Trade Marks generally fail. Unique phrases are more readily "marked" ... but single words are unusual at best.
Neither "COCA" or "COLA" is Trade Markable, while "COCA-COLA" has been granted a "TM". But ... that name was used 100 years ago...and was unique as a branded name.
grizzzlyjoe 8 months ago
@grizzzlyjoe yes but you still have to prove you paid for it or you originated it /invented discovered or found it with out dispute of ownership! Montagraph was published on youtube a public Forum so unless they can show they Originated it be for it was Published they will never get a Trademark unless they purchase it from the Inventor/creator, or are/were employed by the Applicant for Trademark to Create/invent
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
@grizzzlyjoe You use coca cola as an example they could show documented prof they coined the phrase an had Monetary investment in that phrase.Via Advertising an Publishing . the Phrase COCA-Cola was originated by them !
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
I don't remember saying words couldn't be Trademarked ? i do remember saying '' You can't copyright a title''
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
15 U.S.C. §1052(c).
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
@theylive1984rm i agree,
gwellyn2 8 months ago
I also think they would have to prove that they had the name before you did. Which I do not see how they could do that.... Very weird call you got.
barnone11967 8 months ago
Well Monty, keep doing your thing bro! You and Reginald(Demcad) are great, and I love ya both for what you both do. This is the only way these dumb asses can handle or deal with you guys. Let's see if youtube will stand up for you guys. They probably won't , but I hope they will. Screw the powers that be, because they're a bunch of cowards. They understand that you all get through with truth from the things that you show, and also with the things that you say. They're scared...Ya gotta love it!
dbass131 8 months ago
How could they do that and have it work? You could change your name to an infinite number of names. How could they buy them all? I wouldn't worry about that.... If they do it, just do Montagraph1, 2, 3, 4 etc etc
barnone11967 8 months ago
No it's not possible.... so long as you keep a good sized presence no one can take over the originals.
vashguud 8 months ago
It could be a Troll?
purplehaze5562 8 months ago
only thing i can think of why they would do this to demcad is cuz he keeps in touch with sacramaniacs n stuff, but whats the connection between you von and demcad?
DarkKnightNomeD 8 months ago
LOL. Happy 4th.
Licmycat 8 months ago
of pussy would trademark these names just to get rid of you guys?
messenger360 8 months ago
Its BS Trademark is over a million dollars with the legal fees an you have to prove a need like Mc Donalds Its BS
theylive1984rm 8 months ago
ok monty if i wanted to make a movie about youtubing phenomena wouldnt i need your permission unless i already "own" the name.nevertheless i'd call it crank but be checking movie listings and see brad pitt playing von lol
XsamwiseX45 8 months ago
@PREPAREFORTHEKING A lot of people have my # from months past!
Montagraph 8 months ago
Someone really wanted to yank your chain, which sucks, but don't let it bug you, just keep doing what you're doing and have fun.
SleepingGiantsSister 8 months ago