haha dat was funny..................mahmood gahznawi did 17 attacks on subcontinent n in each attack he completly destroys d cities n in his first attack he destroyed somnaat mandir n took its door made of tons of gold
The Delhi Sultanate is a term used to cover five short-lived, Delhi based kingdoms or sultanates, of Turkic origin in medieval India. The sultanates ruled from Delhi between 1206 and 1526, when the last was replaced by the Mughal dynasty. The five dynasties were the Mamluk dynasty (1206–90); the Khilji dynasty (1290–1320); the Tughlaq dynasty (1320–1414); the Sayyid dynasty (1414–51); and the Lodi dynasty (1451–1526).
@indrajeet ur talking from faith and not facts. That is not logical man. I'm against all faiths. Fuck Allah and fuck Brahma. Just setting the record straight. I hate muslims because they were history is based on the blood of others. I hate hindus cause they are racists and think too highly of themselves because of false pride. No different than the damn nazis. It's the 21st century now. stop living in the past, we are one damn people, man.
@indrajeet 2ndly, ur blinded by nationalistic and religious rhetoric because u want to feel like ur race is a pure one, when it's really mixed lol. Answer me this. Why are there so much Europeans that took up an interest in Indology? lmao to this day it's dictated by Europeans. The German Max Muller pretty much told you what he thinks lmao.
we Hindus should be very proud of ourselves and our religion.We withstood about a 1000 years of Invasions and 150 yrs of Muslim rule and preserved our faith while Zoroastrian Iran and Afghanistan, Christian Egypt, Iraq , Syria , Turkey, North Africa and Albania totally fell to the Muslim invaders. There are only 10 mill. Christians in Middle East (birthpace of Jesus) and only 20,000 Zoroastrians in Iran, while India is still 85 % Hindu. HAR HAR MAHADEV
Muslim population has only increased through high birthrates and conversion has a very little significance in the modern world. Take for example Yemen. in just 20 yrs population grew by about 4 times !. from 11 million to 38million.
Islam in Afghanistan, Punjab (western) and Sindh (only Hindu place subjugated by muslims) did spread by both force and in some instances by Sufis while in Bengal Sufis had a larger role to play.
If you look at Muslims (especially Shia) muslims from western U.P, Hyderabad etc. you can see that they have some foreign ancestry while those from Bangladesh look strikingly similar to their Indian brethren. Hindus hardly ever were converted. In fact at the height of Mughal power in the 17th century records show only about 10 - 15 % muslim and that is including the provinces of Afghanistan and excluding many South Indian provinces.
this is 100 % true and the fact that there are a lot of muslims is only due to their extraordinary high birthrates. Infact in the early 20th century there were more Hindus than the rest of the Muslim population combined. The only places where muslims found converts were in the Zoroastrian Afghanistan, Buddhist West Punjab and Bengal (presently Bangladesh) and some settled in an around cities like Delhi, Lucknow, Rampur, Meerut and other Western U.P cities and have a mix of Iranian and Arab blood
Dear brother, I know about the Sikhs, the Marathas, and my hats off to them. You must understand that the premise of my arguement is NOT the denial of stiff military resistence by vaious native groups against the expanding empire that HAPPENED to be Muslim. I am very proud of my ancestors of the Indus Valley, who fiercely resisted earlier invaders such as the Greeks, the Persian, the Mongols etc. These heros lived long before the advent of Islam and practiced the VEDIC religion! (cont)
(cont) Also, us refering to Hindu kings as "cowards" is a reactionary comment made to your false claims that Muslims forcefully converted Hindus. If by force is the only way a Hindu would ever convert to another religion then whats the reason for Hindus leaving Hinduism for Budhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Judaism, Christianity? Also, the fact that the majority of India remained Hindu despite hundreds of years of Muslim rule also points to the weakness of that arguement. It's logic vs. revised history
@meinIndus@meinIndus@meinIndus dude i have many facts about u r emperors , yes and i say this u converted our brothers todays pak was india at sometime checkout the invasion by anyone of your emperors like muhhamad qasim, aurangzeb , tipu sultan, tughlaq, ghazni all wanted too fulfill a dream known as Ghazwa-E-Hind u were not succesfull because of "BRAVE" hindu kings like Shivaji, maharana pratap, guru gobind singh, raja ranjit singh, prithviraj chauhan and many.
@meinIndus (contd) Budhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Judaism are Branches of a big HINDU tree which your people wanted too cut but were unsucessfull in doing that . usay there are majority of hindus in India Half of the India (30%) of it was donated too u by mahatma Gandhi due too evil intentions of nehru and YOUR jinnah. now u want kashmir what for , for making it shit of the dustbin. sindh had majority of hindus before 711 Ad which now has majority of muslims . this is example of forcefull conversion
@zolmaster100 Point by point1) What are the dates of the documents from which you got the "facts" about Muslim emperors. If these facts were documented before the British, then they're worth looking into. Thereafter, it's nothing but revisionism continued since the Brit divide and conquer era 2) Pakistan was NEVER a part of India, though it was JOINED with India at times by empires. That's how you got the name "India" in the first place(Indus--->India). See /JIjdo6CGLgA (Pakistan History)
if its want freedom we cant say that it is not a part of pak
2)write on google forceefull conversions of islam and click the wiki u will get all about it
3)oh how can u say it got wiped out from india King ashoka of india was a buddhist king , read full history or check your facts . like islam from persia reached the world so u cant say islam has been wiped out from persia.
@zolmaster100 As for our ancient histories, you need to see this video detailing our ancient maps /JIjdo6CGLgA (Pakistan History) If you find anything therein that's untrue, we'll talk.
Secondly, Kashmir and Balochistan are NOT the same. People of Balochistan voted to be with Pakistan..People of Kashmir didn't vote for India. The insurgency in Balochistan is nothing in size/age as the one in Kashmir. India doesn't allow international monitors/media into Kashmir. Not the case in Pakistan
@zolmaster100 (cont) 3) If Budhism was a branch of Hinduism, why did it get wiped out from India by HINDUS long before Muslims' time? Hindu efforts to make Sikhism a "branch" is what started the Khalsa movement. And why are people converting to Christianity? 4) If Kashmir is not an indegenous independence movement, why doesn't India allow international monitors/media there to learn that truth? 5)Sindh/Punjab all had majority Hindus until they converted like my ancestors did...out of free will.
@meinIndus (contd) thts how buddhism spread throughout world with the efforts of king ashoka.
4) yes about khalsa movement u know about 60% of indian militry consists of Sikhs and you are talking about khalsa movement , our beloved PM Dr.Manmohan Singh is a sikh
5)u talking about kashmir , then balochistan / sindh should also get indigenous freedom
6)yup forcefully convertd , so big population cant be converted with free will give me the evidence tht they were converted on a free will
@zolmaster100 2, 6) I'm not going to go googling or wikapeda'ing looking for forceful conversions of Hindus. YOU made the initial claim, so YOU're the one with the burden of proof.
3, 4) Budhism, Sikhism in India: I didn't say that Budhism didn't exist in India. I said it did but got wiped out by Brahminism. How? The same way RSS is trying to wipe out Sikhism, Christianity, Islam as independent religions by demanding that either they consider themselves sects within Hinduism or be killed
@meinIndus (contd)6) dude ya you arent going too google it because u know the pains of your ancestors
7)dude i m a hindu/sikh and you are talking about sikhism . dude during anti-sikh riots in india 1980 rss was first to help all the sikhs . if Rss is doesnt like muslims it does not mean that it hates all non- hindus.
8)and about budhism and christianity it still exist in great number in India and stop claiming non sense ppl of this religions werent converted on point of sword like islam
@meinIndus (contd) did in indian sub-continent sry not Islam but evil followers of islam.christianity and buddhism were spred in ind with help of saint thomas and king ashoka...!!
@zolmaster100 Okay..too many things are being discussed simultaneously that the debate's gone haywire. For separatist movements in India and Pakistan, hey, I say lets have referednum in all states of both countries to see who wants to stay and who wants to go. Yeah? As for RSS, if they're doing good, the result would be good. If not, the result would be another 5-6 independent countries. Time will tell.. Now let's get back to the original point which relates to the title of this video. (contd)
@zolmaster100 lol. I think it will happen during our lifetime, and if U tube is still around, we'll come back to reflect. Anyway, the original debate was about whether Muslim rulers were the butchers that ths video is making them out to be, and whether they converted people by force. You say yes to both and I say no. So how do we figure out who's right? As for written materials, we can both find plenty on "wikipedia" supporting our respective points of view. So what to do? (contd)
yeah i given u a link n now u dnt too visit n u say there is soo much to find on wikipedia
yes scenario B is correct the Sikhs and The Marathas,the gurkhas fought n find it on wiki bro
and they were indeed successful
and your king aurangzeb was a idiot , he wanted Islamic India n was succesful in doing so to a xtent and was afraid from shivaji and sikh guru govind singh
@meinIndus (contd)Akbar was a secular and dint beleive in islam he beleived in Din-i-Ilahi which was created by him so he was secular and wanted Hindu & muslim unity . so there were no conversion till the time of shahjahan till which all beleived in Din-i-Ilahi so they were emperors of india who were respected by whole bharat varsh .
Bro dont get me wrong I m not against islam but Against terrorism so no offence
@zolmaster100 (contd) Rather, I am offended by the so called forceful conversion theory that some Hindus have tried to propogate over the last century. In fact, this theory even contradicts your second theory that the Hindus fought back bravely, since brave people wouldn't allow themselves to be converted, would they? And if they did, they either weren't so brave afterall OR that the invaders were more interested in land acquisition than they were in spreading their religion. (contd)
@zolmaster100 (cont) so my point is, if our ancestors were'nt converted by force but chose Islam willfully, what's the evidence? One evidence is the name of my very ancestral town that is named after a Sufi Saint, who settled down there centuries ago, and attracted such following that a village developed around his dwelling. It ws Sufism and its mystical, peaceful, caste free message that brought so many people to Islam, NOT swords. To claim otherwise would be an attempt to revise history
@meinIndus what about muhhamad bin qasim who tried to convert each n evry hindu in sindh . what about aurangzeb who wanted islamic india. what about now days sindh where girls are rapped and are converted . yes about sufism i agree that sindh was birthplace of sufism in india but sufism and domination are 2 different concept. yes our kings were brave so today india is hindu or this dumb muslim leaders would had done Ghazwa-E-Hind .
@zolmaster100 Rather than looking for ways to blame/accuse others for conversions, it may be more helpful to look inward to see what makes people convert to other religions in large numbers even TODAY. All other religions within India...Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Budhism, Sikhism... have 2 things in common. Unlike Hinduism, they're all monotheistic, and they all reject the caste system. That's what has historically appealed to people, or they wouldn't have converted to ANY of these religions
@meinIndus actually if muslims not have caste system then what is sunni and shia there are numerous examples of sunni n shia war . yeah they are monotheistic but sikhism , budhism , judaism , jainism still beleive in hindu philosophys liks swastik , shree ganesh, aum etc other two are still finding god like christianity has there prophet as jesus who was son of god but not god, islam has there prophet as muhamad who wasnt god but avatar (messenger) of god. hindus have seen there gods...!!
@zolmaster100 I'm from northern Punjab and my background is Shia, so we're much closer to Sufism than Wahabism. As for Shia/Sunni/Wahabi division, for the most part it's not as bad as you think. Half of my family is married to Sunnis and even a couple of Wahabis, who, contrary to what you think, are not all extremists. Secterianism, btw, is NOT sanctioned by our religion..I can show you verses from the Quran about it. Caste system, however, is part and parcel of Hinduism. Hence the conversions
@meinIndus caste system as we know it 2day is not sanctioned in any hindu scripture based on birth. but the scriptures do talk about people being priests, in the military, business and service. these segments are true of any society, but what we have done is imparted superiority to one over the other. which no where says that one is greater or better than the other. So yes we are 2 rectify the misinterpretation. regardless of how God originated from us. the fact is He willed us here.
@meinIndus how can u claim that conversations werent forceful many were forceful and what you are telling about castes u even dont know our castes then also you are shouting with no information . and wat about discrimination of punjabi muslims with balochistanis and sindhis...!!
@zolmaster100 So the Taliban destroyed ONE statue of a faith which was practiced by their very distant ancestors and which had already dissappeared centuries ago ; While the Hindu kings of early Middle Ages destroyed COUNTLESS statues, shrines, monastaries, killed monks, used deragatory language in religious texts towards Budhists at the time Budhism was still a living, breathing religion that was being practiced by a large number of people of the land. And you're comparing one to the other?
@meinIndus hahaha what proof do u have about it our many kings were buddhist like the mauryans for example u have no base u r only barking on rumours even gautam buddha was born in India do u know who is he hahahaha no u dont let it be and statue u r talking about and giving it no respect was a world heritage site are u DUMB...!!
@zolmaster100 What hahaha? Didn't you just spend the last few weeks bitching and moaning "wwaahh Muslims did this" "waaah Muslims did that"? Where was YOUR goddamned proof? huh? You want proof? Go find it on wikipedia like you asked ME to do earlier! Go find out who cut down the bodhi tree! I've been calmly responding to all kinds of shit you've been barking against Muslims but did I get nasty like you are now? Pissed off, are ya? Now you know how others feel when you talk shit about them.
@meinIndus lol bodhi true dumbo its Bodh gaya still situated in Bihar India lolz and the tree where gautum buddha used to rest is still present there lolz pakistan was born to make false claims hahhahahahahahahahahahhahaahahah frm u r talking it seems u r pissed of hahahahahahahahahahahahh lol roflmao...!!
@meinIndus u realize there r 2 types of conversion, one which is voluntary and the other is forced. we would need statistics to understand how many people converted out of prejudice suffered under Hinduism and otherwise. Else we are simply speculating. Buddhism never had any castes yet they were killed by muslims simply for idol worship. it is no ones business how one chooses 2 worship. organized religion is nothing but trouble. Please let people worship in peace !
@Perihelion99 Here's the thing. You can't on one hand talk about mutual respect(of which I'm wholeheartedly in favor, granted that it really is mutual), and then do exactly what you claim that we do...that is to blame all ills on a single entity, which, as per the very nature of this video and the discussion it has inspired, seems to be Islam and Muslims. You say Budhists were killed off by Muslims? That's a claim that I've only heard from Hindus, not Budhists themselves. (contd.)
@meinIndus A claim from Hindus wow , itz your old habbit please accept the facts what happen in afganistan when gautam buddhas idol was demolished in afganistan in March 2001 by taliban and what is happening in Thailand were buddhist are killed by muslims.
@Perihelion99 (contd) Secondly, the claim itself doesn't make sense, and seems to only work toward the goal of demonizing Muslims. There is plenty of historical evidence, from discriminatory words against Budhists in Hindu texts, to the fact that the Hindu killing of Budhist monks, destruction of their monastaries, and replacement of their shrines with Hindu temples was talking place as early as 605 A.D. with King Sasanka..long before Islam was even born, let alone entered the subcontinent(cont)
@Perihelion99 Lastely, and once again, my only reason for bringing up the caste system and how it could have contributed to conversion of many out of Hinduism is in response to the claims made by Hindus in this video and almost everywhere, that Muslims converted people by force. Is someone still forcing people worldwide to convert to Islam in huge numbers? No. So the only thing this propaganda accomplishes is to prevent both of our people from healing from wounds of the past.
@zolmaster100 Partition, or as we call it, Independence, can be blamed squarely on the bigotary born out of the revisionist movement, an example of which is this video and this discussion. Jinnah wanted a united India. But it was the Hindutva Hindus' mindset that led to the creation of Pakistan. If you remember, Muslims had voted for the congress party, not the Muslim League but during its 1935-39 rule, Congress' bigoted policies towards Muslims woke them up. Hate ALWAYS pushes people away
@meinIndus if muslims & hindus from 1000 years were living peacefully then what was the need of partition then.u say u r frm sindh,sindh was a place were both muslims and hindus were living peacefully and till day they r living peacefully and so was in punjab n bengal.muhajirs who were far from todays Pakistan were from Up and Bihar.In 1857 as u r history is so correct there was war between kings of India and British in that war all Hindu kings fought under a muslim mughal king Bhadur Shah Zafar
@zolmaster100 do u really think muslims and hindus were living in peace for 1000 years...then y the horrendous massacres during the partition? seems to me like this was their opportunity to vent and this applies to both religions. there is a severe requirement for 2 way mutual respect. and I sincerely hope that v can accomplish this in the subcontinent.
@Perihelion99 yes during the time of akbar and his sons andte peacefull muslims living in villages were peacefull too hindus and so were hindus too them...!!
@meinIndus And about congress if i m right u are talking about khilafat movement which was withdrawn by gandhi and muslim league was founded.by taking back Non-Corporation movement neither hindus nor muslims were happy and Bhagat Singh a follower of gandhiji moved away frm him n went in HRA . after that Dont knw About jinnah but Nehru a traitor wanted money and power and still there were many muslim leaders like Maulana Azad who stopped muslims from going in pak
@meinIndus and khan abdul gaffar khan who was , Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa, province of pak who
Ghaffar Khan strongly opposed the Muslim League's demand for the partition of India. When the Indian National Congress accepted the partition plan, he told them "You have thrown us to the wolves."
doesnt he was a muslim or now u will name him kaffir as he wasnt with muslim league
@zolmaster100 (contd) as for Monotheism, Prophet Muhammad is NOT in any way divine and the Quran states that clearly. Look, I am not putting down your religion. It must work for you or else it wouldn't exist. My mention of it was only to bring ur attention to the fact that Polytheism PLUS the caste system is what sets it apart from other religions that people have converted to, so u can't rule out the idea that there was something other than compulsion that made them convert to these religions
@zolmaster100 (contd) As for Muslims who opposed Pakistan, they had their concerns and although I don't agree with them, I can't call them kafir for it.lol. But yeah, there was a time when Muslims and Hindus fought together against the British. Had things stayed that way, we could've remained one country. But the British divide and conquer policy worked and suddenly, hate speech against Muslims began to appear in the late 1800's. The resulting hatred and bigotary led to Pakistan's Independence
@meinIndus yes bigoted muslims will say they wanted pakistan now they want kashmir . if hate speech came in 1800 brother during 1800 India was under mughal rule...!!
@meinIndus taali do haath se bajti hai...old saying but always applicable. Jinnah was concerned about the Muslims economic interests as well, since they thought the Hindus would suffocate Muslims out of commerce. blaming the entire thing on a single entity and more specifically "a" religion, namely Hindus, is not going to help us have a mutual dialogue. we do admit our shortcomings but r u willing to do the same ?
@zolmaster100 (contd) Why not try to figure out the past by looking at the end result? Common sense dictates that if the Muslims were hell bent on converting all Hindus to Islam then A) they were successful in converting all Hindus over the centuries, B) they were unsuccessful because Hindus fought back. Scenerio A didn't occur because there are still more Hindus than Muslims. And B is unlikely because the Hindus would have either won and kicked the Muslims out or lost and been annihilated. No?
I have come to the conclusion that long before all other heavenly books, God had revealed to the Hindus through the rishis of yore His four books of knowledge, the Rig Veda, the Yajur Veda, the Sama Veda and the Atharva Veda.
-- Prince Muhammad Dara Shikoh (1627-1658), a Sufi Muslim, later executed by his brother Aurangazeb
hahahahha now say who has saw gods first and which was the holy land...!!
@zolmaster100 What's so strange about it, since, A) Vedas do predate holy books like the Torah, the Gospel, the Quran, and B) Quran does state in multiple places that prophets were sent from God to EVERY group of humanity, but that their message was either corrupted or forgotten by their people. Since the Vedas have multiple authors, it's possible that at least SOME of them were true prophets, hence some similarities between vedas and other holy books. The same can be true for Budhist teachings
@meinIndus but i m not against any holy book and i m not claiming that we hindus are superiror than any other dharma. but i m saying that evry one is equal and no one can claim that r hindu kings were cowrds. i have great respect for akbar but aurangzeb was cruel and that is the fact . i m also against forcefull conversions that u r so called "BRAVE" kings did on our hindu brothers.and u ppl always claim that u r religion is superiror if itz so then we will not accept it sorry...!
@zolmaster100 You have to remember that some of the people you're refering to as "our hindu brothers" who were "forcefully" converted were MY direct ancestors who not only practiced Hindu relgion for thousands of years, but were instrumental in its develoement...and I am also telling you that we were NOT forcefully converted. It was, and still today is, a choice, to be Muslims. Being able to choose your religion is one of fundamental human rights. We chose Islam and u have to accept it.
Actually, Persia remained a land of enlightenment long after Islam's arrival, and India was the richest country DURING Muslim Mogul rule, prompting the British to refer to it as "the Golden Sparrow" while planning to colonize it. The Arab societies were a backward mess of ignorance, but after Islam, became the most educated and advanced societies from 7th to 12th centuries with exploration in science, astronomy, astrology, mathmatics, medicine, art, philosophy.. Research before spewing out stuff
A feeble attempt to rewrite history in order to rile up national pride and militancy among Hindus against Muslims and Pakistan. How much of this "history" can actually be found in Hindu records prior to British takeover of India? British,who were threatened by joint Muslim/Hindu struggle to free India, started the policy of divide and conquer. It is during that period that the re-writing of history and tales of Muslim "atrocities" as well as "fierce" Hindu resistence started showing up.
The video would be reasonable if there were context stating where the information was gotten from. Anyone can add a few pictures/ slides and insert info based on their on will. Who ever uploaded this video is a perfect example of an illiterate person. It's people like this who still can't get over ethnic issues living in a mixed racial and cultural society. The damn British divided and ruled over India for 100s of years. Why aren't you complaining about that. illiterate people holding back india
Unfortunately, Indians will never learn about this due to their apologetic education system. India is the only country which didnt turn Islamic inspite of 1000 years of Islamic attacks (and not rule). Persia collapsed within 100 years, Mesopotamia also under few decades (the Byzantine empire). Hindus faught till the very end and never surrendered. Unfortunately even after winning the right to follow hinduism it has an Islamic enemy on it west armed with weapons.
@alikool0001 One bad incident in 5000 years of Hindu history, and you paint all Hindu and Sikhs bad ? Did history teach you about the Islamic masscares in India between 800-1600 A.D. in which millions of Hindus perished or sold as slaves in Arabia ? Gujarat was just a drop compared to the ocean of injustices done by Islamics in India.
@mrbond107 do u know my present subject of study it is the world influence of islam on world history u are still living in a dream world u idiot box !!!!!!!
@alikool0001 Before Islam, Persia (Iran) was a beakon of enlightenment and among the most educated socities, look at it today. Before Islam, India was the richest country, look at it today. You are probably studying in a Madrassa where they dont teach you real history or analytical thinking, but if you step out you will realize that eveything that Islam has touched has turned to crap.
@alikool0001 they r in india...which is now pakistan..borders of baluchistan...and then u guys get converted to islam by force....afghanistan was buddhist majority state but it get converted also...
@zolmaster100 The best reply to the misconceptiorepeated."n that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):
"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever
Wrong again....there is no concept of forced conversion to islam in islam,its purely an individual's decision.Ask any muslim of sub continent and you'd know the reality of FORCED CONVERSIONS.
Just like u r justifying breaking temples by saying that its right in quran, in that case an atheist also has right to break masjids as they believe its useless to sit and speak words 5 times a day, so why keep that building. The truth about breaking temples was that when mughal kings won the war by deceit, they would loot people's money, rob money from temples and destroy it, forcefully convert people to Islam. When they don't, kill them. Plz tell me how was Banda Bahadur killed ??
But still I see that Pakistani/Indian muslims attitude is better than that of arabs. Arabs still believe it to be right what mughals did in India in the past. See this video of an arab saying that a Muslim asks non-muslim to convert to Islam, if not then asks him to pay Jaziya, if he doesn't pay Jaziya then fight them.
@U5011453 what did mugals do to india in history of india the max g.d.p was 30.37% during aurangazeb's period . now indias g.d.p is 7% .u betrayed him for that indias betrayer govind who was rightfully killed by aurangazeb
Yeah actually this is why Mughals came to India due to enormous wealth here. Along with that also converting people forcefully to Islam was the first policy. Mughals contributed nothing to India but just war, plunder, rape, forceful conversion and every worst thing. India already was exporting a lot to the world, this is why first came the Greeks, then Sakas, then Huns, then Muslims then British. Jahangir allowed British to come not non-Muslims.
@U5011453 ya read the time of mugal empier was the most succesful period of india till now better than now if ur an non muslim and u are an indian then u the greatest and greatest proof of no that there was no force ful conversion in india by any muslim ruler
The most successful time for India was well before Muslim invasions. Why did invasions happen in the first place ?? The only reason for survival of Non-Muslims in India is defense. If you really think that there was no forceful conversion then read the Muslim sources by yourself. Read Baburnama(Babur), Akbarnama(Akbar), Ain-e-Akbari(Akbar), Mirat-e-Alam(Aurangzeb), Alamgirnama(Aurangzeb), Zafarnama(Aurangzeb), Fatehnama(Aurangzeb) etc. You will get to know what happened and what not
All The people of india were idol worshippers before the arrival of islam in the sub continent,so naturally there are mostly temple ruins as archeological evidences.......there are quite a few mosque remains also,sorry i don't think i'll REMAIN QUIET ON THAT.Wrong pakistani people's genetics match with people from all of india as many of them migrated here.
@saad5207 but muslims are also idol worshippers. If that is not the case, can muslims stop facing the kaaba while praying to Allah? Do not give me stupid excuses that for the sake of unity muslims face the kaaba or its just a direction
U really have no idea what u are talking about do you ?? Read even the history of afghanistan, on how Buddhism perished there, read the history of Iran on how Zoroastrianism perished there. Islamic history is the history of bloodshed of non-muslims for the crime they didn't commit. They broke temples, and just coz its right in Islam, doesn't make it right. Islam can't co exist with other religions. This is why Sharia is good for muslims but worst for non-muslims.
Again u show a complete lack of sense...we don't pray or prostate before a stone rather we pray before Almighty Allah.Its worship of One true God,not stone,a worship done as the God commands us.The language barrier is there but there are many non muslim arabs,Islam is a universal religion for all races,its the belief (faith) that matters not the language.
When you go round and round your Kaabah and kiss it, you don't worship "it" but you worship your God The Almighty, but when Hindus do the same, they worship statues and idols. Isn't that contradictory???
"There is no compulsion in religion".Please use your brain it means God does'nt want forced conversions to islam and therefore we should'nt convert or try to covert any one against his will.
@saad5207 If there was no compulsion in ISLAM then how today's Pakistanis & Bangladeshis, who were once ex-Hindus, r Muslims today?? How once Hindus-Buddhists of Gandhara (Afghanstan) are Muslims today ?? The truth is ISLAM came to all d aforementioned places with Sword & Fire, conquering as many as 85 million Hindus, who were given d Ultimatum 'ISLAM or DEATH'. While many of them braved Death, most of them embraced Islam to save their Lives, Limbs & honour of women folk.
@saad5207 But the biggest Irony is that the present Pakis, Bengalis & Kashmiris have failed to realize that they were never Muslims but were forced to accept Islam at DEADLY TYRANNY. They fail to realize that they r infact practicing and propagating a Religion called ISLAM, which was rather imposed upon them by their Tormentors or Invaders.Thus they have bcome Banner of their own Tormentors & are totally sterile to their own ancestory today.
Only Hindus of India repulsed the Muslim invaders.
@saad5207 Not only Pakistan, Bangladesh or Kashmir but also many flourishing civilizations were viped out from the Globe by ISLAMIC JIHADIS. Babylonia (Iraq), Zorashtrian Persia (Iran), Mesopotamia (syria), Pharoah land (Egypt), former Christian nations of Albania, Kosovo & Bosnia, Berber republics of North Africa & many many Buddhist nations of Central Asia were devastated by MUSLIMS.
Today the natives of these ancient nations r totally sterile to their own ancestory & hence practice ISLAM.
"No compulsion in religion" cannot mean no forced conversion. No compulsion in religion means a person can be a good human no matter what religion. Matter of belief and faith is a stupid thing, why say such thing 5 times a day which u dont understand? Its mere stupidity. just coz breaking idols is fine in quran, doesn't make it right. They broke temples coz they didn't tolerate existence of other religions. If pak genes match with india then tell me where muslims came from ??
Those who suggest that islam forces itself upon the UNBELIEVERS are wrong,biased and islamophobic.To be a muslim you have to believe in ONE TRUE GOD,in all the prophets,all the holy scriptures,angels, the day of judgement and the fact that fate is governed and influenced by God alone. The Holy Quran clearly states that "there is no compulsion in religion". That is u only become a muslim if u convert from heart and forcible conversion is a SIN.In india the spread of islam was due to sufi saints.
alright so I just have to be a good man and don't have to embrace Islam, right ?? But in Islam it is compulsory to believe in all fairy tales, prophets, child born from virgin, flying donkeys, stick turning to snake, God speaking to prophets etc. otherwise hell, right ?? and to enter heaven we have to say "La Ilaha ilallah Muhammadur Rasool Allah". but if i'm a Non-Muslim I don't believe that. So what does no compulsion in religion in Islam mean ??
""Hey ajayitis if WISDOM means making idols out of sand and stone and bowing before them,if WISDOM means believing that cows,snakes,elephents,monkeys and rats are Gods then seriously i don't need neither do i want such WISDOM""
haha, whether u pray to a stone or 5(why not 4?) times a day to so called Allah, that's the same thing coz both are useless. There is no wisdom in sitting and speaking words and u won't even understand the language!!!!! :\
@saad5207 In India ISLAM was spread by DEATH THREATS and CONVERSION BY SWORD. Jz check the History of Bangladesh & Pakistan. They all were Ex-Hindus & SON OF RAPED BITCHES upon whom millions of Muslim Invaders of Arab, Mughal, Turkic, Persian origin had frolic for unbroken 1000 yrs. This is the real reason they r sterile to their ancestory
Only the region v call INDIA today was able to repulse the Muslim Invaders owing to Brave Rajput, Sikh, Maratha & Gurkhas,so were never converted forcibly.
Hey ajayitis if WISDOM means making idols out of sand and stone and bowing before them,if WISDOM means believing that cows,snakes,elephents,monkeys and rats are Gods then seriously i don't need neither do i want such WISDOM.Apart from that i don't need WISDOM of believing lies.Sorry but i sincerely believe that it is you who is beyond HOPE.
@saad5207 So what does ISLAM means? Killing Cows,Monkeys,Snakes & Rats eating their Roasted Ass, Dick, Testicles, Intestine & making Biryani out of it....Right ??? Hinduism never believes that Animals r gods they r jz Gift of Gods.Hinduism never advices anyone to Eat Animal Meat or Drink their Blood. So Hinduism has been accredited of being more non-violent. While ISLAM is Blood-thirsty in Origin, Hunting Animals & even Slaying fellow Human. ISLAM is a synoname of Butchery & Savagery.
Thankyou very much but I KNOW THE REALITY (perhaps u should strive a little harder to get to know it too).The history,science and archeological evidence all points out to the reality of a 1000 years of muslim rule in the sub continent.As for correct translation of Quran and the errors that u suggest it has, go and check it out the Holy Quran is the same in all parts of the world,it is the single Holy scripture which effects human beings the most,your approval is not required.
....and if we go finding archeological evidences, we will find only the ruins of temples of other religions and nothing else, so better be quiet on that. and BTW, pakistani people's genetics match with people from Indus valley civilisation, right ?? ever wondered how come ??
Genetics match coz they used to be Hindus and now are forced converts. I don't know if genetics match or not, but Pakistani people say so. I see that u r from India, may be u misunderstood my comment. Read all of my comments.
Give it up buddies talking to a Fucking Muslim is like talking to a wall... Muslims will believe what Fucking Muhammad has taught them and if any one shows the sign of wisdom then he will be slain by same fucking Muslims because of Some silly FATWA lol... They don't have hope
If wisdom means stupidly and mindlessly agreeing with a LIE then no thanks i'll hold on to my ignorance.I am always open minded not biased at all,and where should i go for neutral media,you indians or the westerners (both vehemently anti muslim).The fact is that u hate the reality of a 1000 year muslim rule despite the fact that the muslims were in minority and remain to this day a minority in india,tell me if they had decided to eliminate all KAFIRS then would any of the non muslims be alive?
@saad5207 live ur fairy dream, or learn reality by history, science, archaeological evidence, and correct translation of Quran which expose 1000s of error in it.
Brother Muslim rule was not a problem, problem was that they wanted to force their religion on others(not all of them). Anyway it wasn't 1000 years and it wasn't all over India anytime. But they forced their religion on non-muslims. Not just India, u can also read the history of Iran and other countries where Islamic invasion happened.
Ofcourse the muslims ruled all india,not just hindus however as the video in question pathetically limits 1000 yr muslim rule of india to 150 yrs,i have to state the facts........Mohammad bin Qasim to Bahadur Shah Zafar (1000 yr muslim rule of india).And the ironic fact is that in the war of independence 1857 the hindus themselves crowned Bahadur shah Zafar as the sole monarch of india,such was their belief that only muslims can rule united india.
@saad5207 i have already told u truth, its ur wish, u want to choose wisdom or ignorance. Or u can find a middle way, that is search things with open mind, and from neutral media. otherwise if u choose ignorance, then keep on argumentation endlessly, instead of correcting things and take it to the level of regression and destroy self.
Akber was a hypocrite who died as a muslim (kalima on his lips at death),Plitics is what im talking here (muslim rule of india)Aurangzeb was and remains to this day the single most greatest Emperor of india,just look at his reign,he took on marhattas,rajputs,jats and sikhs (when they revolted against muslim rule),defeated them all,mughul rule reached its climax under his reign,it was his lazy descendents who sealed the fate of muslim rule of india.As for 1000 yr hindu rule,i hav 1 answer....LOL.
NO soviet union met its downfall b/c it messed with wrong people,the Afghans are famous for beating the shit out of foreign invaders,they gave the soviets the same treatment which they gave to the British and currently giving the Americans,therefore the soviet union went PUFFF.The americans supplied weapons only when a victory for Afghans was apparent,they catalised the Afghan victory but were'nt the cause of it.As for the world hating pakistan...LOL,what can't break u only makes u stronger.
HAHAHA idiot, Ghouri fought prithvi 2 times not 3.....LOL.True he got defeated first time but then he came back and annhilated prithvi and his forces..........Endresult.........decisive victory for the Afghans,conquest of entire north india by the muslims and 1000 year old muslim rule over india........Anyway if some demented lunatic believes your version of prithvi's grand victory over ghouri (laughs) then tell me who ruled Delhi after that war...........the truth is u just cant accept reality.
If you were'nt so biased and if you had read unbiased islamic history you'd know that the contributions by the muslims for the comfort and advancement of humanity were astronomical at the very least.If converted muslims are not considered muslims according to Quran than tell me why is islam the fastest spreading religion on earth?As for the last part,true we have'nt been on the offensive for quite a long time,but incase you had'nt noticed a superpower the soviet union met its downfall by afghans
@saad5207 Soviet Union downfall is because of partnership and geographical advantageous position of US and Pakistan. well Pakistan have spreaded hate towards Soviet Union and India, result is now whole world hates Pakistan. God have strange way of justice, hate always come back.
India spreaded love always, and result is, India is in the way of next super-power, with strong economics. u can deny it if u wish, but it wud not change reality.
@saad5207 Akbar was not Muslim and a Kafir it is truth, he has many Hindu ppl at high position in his rule. watever fight he did after his adulthood, was not Hindu Muslim fight, that were political fights.
Mughal decline is not becoz of lazyness. but because of peoples' hate towards Aurangzeb in return of his violence and crulety, which make his dynasty weak and hollow from inside.
longest Muslim rule was Mughal, bcoz of Akbar. otherwise 1000 yr Hindu ruled Indian subcontinent.
@saad5207 Rajput, Maratha, Satriya, and Mughal rules not only on Hindus, but they ruled over Muslims also. So, ur point Muslim ruled over Hindus, have basic logical mistake. It was not democracy.
Akbar was a hypocrite,he too killed many rajputs at the battle of chitor.Aurangzeb's only crime was that he fought and stopped the marhattas from revolting against mughul rule..........the decline of mughuls was due to the fact that later kings were lazy and inept to rule such a big country. Your conclusion is woefully wrong,for the past 1000 years (before 1857)the muslims have always defeated hindus and sikhs,and ruled over them.
saad5207what BLAH BLAH BLAH....just u can rule our India in dreams..may be in dreams also it cant..GOD will always love good people who strives hardly for peace and happinesss of others. Do u think in that GOD that teahces hatred and killing people for religious upliftment. Not atlll brother ..Muslims world see them as terrorist..why..morethan this name is ENglish word..not taken origin from India or given by Hindus..its internationally accepted..
Akbar left Islam and so able to rule peacefully and sustain his region, after him region starts to continuously decline bcoz further ruler forget the teachings of Akbar. Aurangzeb again try to acquire more land by cruelty and violence, but bcoz of it people start to hate mughal, and then mughal empire start to decline again.
conclusion Love will always win over Hate, and Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist will always win over Muslims.
BLAH BLAH BLAH...........bark and grunt as much as you want the fact remains that the muslims ruled united india for a 1000 years,a fact which is more than enough to keep you idiots at your rightful place........(yeah below our cocks LOL)
And guess what ,we'll rule india again,in the near future..........Ghazwa e Hind Zindabad.
@saad5207 You are right. Fact remains. So every knowledgable people hate muslims.Except trerror there is no contribution to the world by muslims.Only things they know are looting,raping and killing . Some exceptions are there.But all are made by the converted muslims who don't even know that they are not muslim at all according to Qran.By the by tell me a war which was won by any muslim ruled nation in last 100 years.Try your best to that. But world is not reigned by sword today.
The sikhs were massacred by the Mughuls then Afghans,in their homeland i.e Punjab,the sikh rebellion only reached its climax when the muslim power in sub continent had reached a record low.However during proper muslim rule there was'nt any such rebellion.As for muslims not coming across any resistance,i would'nt say so,they came,they saw and they conqured period
STOP maligning history. Indian society was so divided in caste system that muslims did not come across any resistance. It was sikhs in the end who stood up and were able to defeat them. Only handful brave hindus fought muslims.
@MrSurreycanada - see how 'saad5207' is proud of their deeds. They massacred, they came, they conquered... saying like they saved the world from an armageddon. Seems like u r wrong professor.
Islam always fuck to our nation but still muslims majority is more than pakistan in India. Every muslims think about it because history always hurt us what u did with us....................................
However its our belief that the tide would shift in our favour very soon,we have the tools for global domination,sacrifices are to be made for the greater good,its us that'll rule this world in the long run.For india we have Ghazwa e hind in store.
@saad5207 do u know, most sustainable king in mughal was Akbar. He was illiterate but knowledgeable. after learning many religion including Islam, he left the Islam by saying it is not a perfect religion, and adopt a new religion that is Deen-e-ilahi. he spent his initial years in a Hindu family, this is the only reason, he able to sustain, and after his period Mughal start to decline. And never successful to acquire whole region. Akbar was failed to write abt Deen-e-ilahi, this cud be reason
Cmon take a sip of cow piss and see the reality dude,the muslims were powerful enough to make the rajputs look like Barbie dolls,they could have eliminated you in a manner of months,but they did'nt,thats why u r alive alongwith billions of other hindus in india. The fate of muslim nations today is due to their own stupidity and sins,the muslim world is very rich and powerful,we have deposits of oil,minerals,uranium and energetic youth makes 70% of our population,its the sins that hamper us.
@saad5207 - you said u have the deposits of Oil, Minerals, Uranium. How do you came to know that u have all those ? Wake up kid, u r wealthy because of Americans. You didn't know until Americans found.
What have you contributed to world ?
Did you invent anything ?
Did you made any discoveries ?
Do you have your own knowledge of developing technology ? Other than making crackers.
You even don't have the Technicians, Engineers, workers. All who work in Arab countries are from other countries.
cow piss better than Camel piss for that matter-What energetic youth u talking about the same youth that all it does is fuck fuck and fuck some more-mate i can get 2 rabbits if i want to see that kind of action and procreation too right and they would show u up?? I read somewhere the reason u mullahs and mutawas keep beard is to show who is more horny, cause mate thinking of sex ( basically being horny) is a direct link to his beard growth. oh yeah KAABA =Home for PENIS IN VAGINA -try any temple
The Truth.......indian hindus owe their existance and their religion's existance to the generous muslim rulers who despite being powerful enough to literally eliminate them by a single Royal Decree were merciful and big hearted.What is your reality,owned and ruled by muslims for a 1000 years,then broken from left and right when the tide turned after the arrival of the British.
@saad5207 "Indian hindus owe their existance and their religion's existance to the generous muslim rulers"
Generous my ass, They only came to India to Loot and Murder. All Muslims should be ashamed of their History. Muslim Rulers came to India like Shameless Filthy Dogs.
God never lets Evil Men win so now they faded into History Books and now look at fate of Muslim Nations, Bombed, Raped, Treated like Shit by the same Jews, Christians and Pagans that they hated. Seems Allah is with Infidels.
@saad5207 - Hinduism is the path of peace. It always welcomed foreigners to exchange the trade and knowledge. Ur culture is an off chute of many paths such as Pagan, Jews, christianity and as a matter of fact Hinduism.
Don't you know that majority of the muslims around the World who are breathing free air are in other countries like America, Britain, France, India etc. rather than in a Muslim country.
Wake up kid. U r a baby among the world religions.
Amazing......u hindus r masters of distortion,Muslim ruled united india for 1000 years and the legendary hindus for all their bravado (laughs) and majority could'nt oust them from power,Somnath temple was raised to the ground,the idol beheaded and the brave Hindus were just too generous to stop Mahmood Ghaznavi.The mighty shivaji (mountain rat) had to hide in the mountains to escape death at Aurangzeb's hands,Ahmed Shah Abdali massacred the lions (pussies) of india......Yup thats some bravery.
@saad5207 - You r accepting that ur forefathers committed speechless cruelty against innocent and u r following them by praising their sins.
Indians were protecting their reign, it's the power hungry Arab illiterates who invaded.
Shivaji bravely accepted the invitation of Aurangzeb, despite suspecting the treachery. Aurangazeb held Shivaji captive. Then Shivaji escaped from the captivity.
Brave Indian Lions fought against many foreign invaders including the British. Today India stands free.
Thanks for the English explanations,this is the only way we can divulge the true voice of India,showing how Islam distorted and smashed the indigenous cultures !But references are needed,so we can better stand up against the whitewashing pro-islam historians !
haha dat was funny..................mahmood gahznawi did 17 attacks on subcontinent n in each attack he completly destroys d cities n in his first attack he destroyed somnaat mandir n took its door made of tons of gold
usman55990 4 days ago
@usman55990 yaa ur allah was poor so taught u ppl 2 steal gold frm our rich gods temple
cutiepie19974 3 days ago
actually, islam was in india and well established before the mughal "hordes" arrived - so fuck you, game over on your first point.
001001110110 6 days ago
The Delhi Sultanate is a term used to cover five short-lived, Delhi based kingdoms or sultanates, of Turkic origin in medieval India. The sultanates ruled from Delhi between 1206 and 1526, when the last was replaced by the Mughal dynasty. The five dynasties were the Mamluk dynasty (1206–90); the Khilji dynasty (1290–1320); the Tughlaq dynasty (1320–1414); the Sayyid dynasty (1414–51); and the Lodi dynasty (1451–1526).
lordifrit69 2 weeks ago
@lordifrit69 don't sound like a myth to me lmao.
lordifrit69 2 weeks ago
@lordifrit69 Certainly does to me
indrajeet 2 weeks ago
@indrajeet ur talking from faith and not facts. That is not logical man. I'm against all faiths. Fuck Allah and fuck Brahma. Just setting the record straight. I hate muslims because they were history is based on the blood of others. I hate hindus cause they are racists and think too highly of themselves because of false pride. No different than the damn nazis. It's the 21st century now. stop living in the past, we are one damn people, man.
lordifrit69 1 week ago
@lordifrit69 whose we exactly???
indrajeet 1 week ago
@indrajeet 2ndly, ur blinded by nationalistic and religious rhetoric because u want to feel like ur race is a pure one, when it's really mixed lol. Answer me this. Why are there so much Europeans that took up an interest in Indology? lmao to this day it's dictated by Europeans. The German Max Muller pretty much told you what he thinks lmao.
lordifrit69 1 week ago
Islam is about Power and you are allowed to achieve that power through deceit, Lies, Takiyah, Rape, Slavery,Infidel, war booty as Taught by Mohammad.
Hinduism is about Peace you achieve that by sacrifice your own desires, good to other human beings, humanity, Love, no Killings, meditation etc.
Now one make their own mind what belongs to God and what belongs to a Devil.
Evidence...Hindus are not Opportunist as Muslims are in their behaviour.
ambardarlane 2 weeks ago 7
Har har MAHADEV
vickydhar 3 weeks ago
we Hindus should be very proud of ourselves and our religion.We withstood about a 1000 years of Invasions and 150 yrs of Muslim rule and preserved our faith while Zoroastrian Iran and Afghanistan, Christian Egypt, Iraq , Syria , Turkey, North Africa and Albania totally fell to the Muslim invaders. There are only 10 mill. Christians in Middle East (birthpace of Jesus) and only 20,000 Zoroastrians in Iran, while India is still 85 % Hindu. HAR HAR MAHADEV
islamophobe101 3 weeks ago
Muslim population has only increased through high birthrates and conversion has a very little significance in the modern world. Take for example Yemen. in just 20 yrs population grew by about 4 times !. from 11 million to 38million.
islamophobe101 3 weeks ago
Islam in Afghanistan, Punjab (western) and Sindh (only Hindu place subjugated by muslims) did spread by both force and in some instances by Sufis while in Bengal Sufis had a larger role to play.
islamophobe101 3 weeks ago
If you look at Muslims (especially Shia) muslims from western U.P, Hyderabad etc. you can see that they have some foreign ancestry while those from Bangladesh look strikingly similar to their Indian brethren. Hindus hardly ever were converted. In fact at the height of Mughal power in the 17th century records show only about 10 - 15 % muslim and that is including the provinces of Afghanistan and excluding many South Indian provinces.
islamophobe101 3 weeks ago
this is 100 % true and the fact that there are a lot of muslims is only due to their extraordinary high birthrates. Infact in the early 20th century there were more Hindus than the rest of the Muslim population combined. The only places where muslims found converts were in the Zoroastrian Afghanistan, Buddhist West Punjab and Bengal (presently Bangladesh) and some settled in an around cities like Delhi, Lucknow, Rampur, Meerut and other Western U.P cities and have a mix of Iranian and Arab blood
islamophobe101 3 weeks ago
Dear brother, I know about the Sikhs, the Marathas, and my hats off to them. You must understand that the premise of my arguement is NOT the denial of stiff military resistence by vaious native groups against the expanding empire that HAPPENED to be Muslim. I am very proud of my ancestors of the Indus Valley, who fiercely resisted earlier invaders such as the Greeks, the Persian, the Mongols etc. These heros lived long before the advent of Islam and practiced the VEDIC religion! (cont)
meinIndus 4 weeks ago
(cont) Also, us refering to Hindu kings as "cowards" is a reactionary comment made to your false claims that Muslims forcefully converted Hindus. If by force is the only way a Hindu would ever convert to another religion then whats the reason for Hindus leaving Hinduism for Budhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Judaism, Christianity? Also, the fact that the majority of India remained Hindu despite hundreds of years of Muslim rule also points to the weakness of that arguement. It's logic vs. revised history
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus @meinIndus @meinIndus dude i have many facts about u r emperors , yes and i say this u converted our brothers todays pak was india at sometime checkout the invasion by anyone of your emperors like muhhamad qasim, aurangzeb , tipu sultan, tughlaq, ghazni all wanted too fulfill a dream known as Ghazwa-E-Hind u were not succesfull because of "BRAVE" hindu kings like Shivaji, maharana pratap, guru gobind singh, raja ranjit singh, prithviraj chauhan and many.
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@meinIndus (contd) Budhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Judaism are Branches of a big HINDU tree which your people wanted too cut but were unsucessfull in doing that . usay there are majority of hindus in India Half of the India (30%) of it was donated too u by mahatma Gandhi due too evil intentions of nehru and YOUR jinnah. now u want kashmir what for , for making it shit of the dustbin. sindh had majority of hindus before 711 Ad which now has majority of muslims . this is example of forcefull conversion
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 Point by point1) What are the dates of the documents from which you got the "facts" about Muslim emperors. If these facts were documented before the British, then they're worth looking into. Thereafter, it's nothing but revisionism continued since the Brit divide and conquer era 2) Pakistan was NEVER a part of India, though it was JOINED with India at times by empires. That's how you got the name "India" in the first place(Indus--->India). See /JIjdo6CGLgA (Pakistan History)
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus1) pakistan was always part of india
like balochistan is part of pak
if its want freedom we cant say that it is not a part of pak
2)write on google forceefull conversions of islam and click the wiki u will get all about it
3)oh how can u say it got wiped out from india King ashoka of india was a buddhist king , read full history or check your facts . like islam from persia reached the world so u cant say islam has been wiped out from persia.
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 As for our ancient histories, you need to see this video detailing our ancient maps /JIjdo6CGLgA (Pakistan History) If you find anything therein that's untrue, we'll talk.
Secondly, Kashmir and Balochistan are NOT the same. People of Balochistan voted to be with Pakistan..People of Kashmir didn't vote for India. The insurgency in Balochistan is nothing in size/age as the one in Kashmir. India doesn't allow international monitors/media into Kashmir. Not the case in Pakistan
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus1) i can show u ample of videos that how hinduism was practiced in pakistan and how that was destroyed by your ancestors.....
2) dude king of punjab voted to join india and u know that king reprents the whole state if u have some knowledge
3)their was a treaty signed by Mr Jinnah in u r partiton bill that if a state doesnt like rule of pakistan it can be independent after 10 yrs
4)So Mr G.M. syed given the call of free sindh isnt it
5)so y isnt Sindh / Balochistan Granted freedom
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 (cont) 3) If Budhism was a branch of Hinduism, why did it get wiped out from India by HINDUS long before Muslims' time? Hindu efforts to make Sikhism a "branch" is what started the Khalsa movement. And why are people converting to Christianity? 4) If Kashmir is not an indegenous independence movement, why doesn't India allow international monitors/media there to learn that truth? 5)Sindh/Punjab all had majority Hindus until they converted like my ancestors did...out of free will.
meinIndus 1 month ago
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zolmaster100 1 month ago
@meinIndus (contd) thts how buddhism spread throughout world with the efforts of king ashoka.
4) yes about khalsa movement u know about 60% of indian militry consists of Sikhs and you are talking about khalsa movement , our beloved PM Dr.Manmohan Singh is a sikh
5)u talking about kashmir , then balochistan / sindh should also get indigenous freedom
6)yup forcefully convertd , so big population cant be converted with free will give me the evidence tht they were converted on a free will
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 2, 6) I'm not going to go googling or wikapeda'ing looking for forceful conversions of Hindus. YOU made the initial claim, so YOU're the one with the burden of proof.
3, 4) Budhism, Sikhism in India: I didn't say that Budhism didn't exist in India. I said it did but got wiped out by Brahminism. How? The same way RSS is trying to wipe out Sikhism, Christianity, Islam as independent religions by demanding that either they consider themselves sects within Hinduism or be killed
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus (contd)6) dude ya you arent going too google it because u know the pains of your ancestors
7)dude i m a hindu/sikh and you are talking about sikhism . dude during anti-sikh riots in india 1980 rss was first to help all the sikhs . if Rss is doesnt like muslims it does not mean that it hates all non- hindus.
8)and about budhism and christianity it still exist in great number in India and stop claiming non sense ppl of this religions werent converted on point of sword like islam
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@meinIndus (contd) did in indian sub-continent sry not Islam but evil followers of islam.christianity and buddhism were spred in ind with help of saint thomas and king ashoka...!!
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 Okay..too many things are being discussed simultaneously that the debate's gone haywire. For separatist movements in India and Pakistan, hey, I say lets have referednum in all states of both countries to see who wants to stay and who wants to go. Yeah? As for RSS, if they're doing good, the result would be good. If not, the result would be another 5-6 independent countries. Time will tell.. Now let's get back to the original point which relates to the title of this video. (contd)
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus yeah brother there will be a big ONE country and time will indeed tell...!!
yeah lets get back...!!
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 lol. I think it will happen during our lifetime, and if U tube is still around, we'll come back to reflect. Anyway, the original debate was about whether Muslim rulers were the butchers that ths video is making them out to be, and whether they converted people by force. You say yes to both and I say no. So how do we figure out who's right? As for written materials, we can both find plenty on "wikipedia" supporting our respective points of view. So what to do? (contd)
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus yes indeed
yeah i given u a link n now u dnt too visit n u say there is soo much to find on wikipedia
yes scenario B is correct the Sikhs and The Marathas,the gurkhas fought n find it on wiki bro
and they were indeed successful
and your king aurangzeb was a idiot , he wanted Islamic India n was succesful in doing so to a xtent and was afraid from shivaji and sikh guru govind singh
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@meinIndus (contd)Akbar was a secular and dint beleive in islam he beleived in Din-i-Ilahi which was created by him so he was secular and wanted Hindu & muslim unity . so there were no conversion till the time of shahjahan till which all beleived in Din-i-Ilahi so they were emperors of india who were respected by whole bharat varsh .
Bro dont get me wrong I m not against islam but Against terrorism so no offence
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 (contd) Rather, I am offended by the so called forceful conversion theory that some Hindus have tried to propogate over the last century. In fact, this theory even contradicts your second theory that the Hindus fought back bravely, since brave people wouldn't allow themselves to be converted, would they? And if they did, they either weren't so brave afterall OR that the invaders were more interested in land acquisition than they were in spreading their religion. (contd)
meinIndus 4 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 (cont) so my point is, if our ancestors were'nt converted by force but chose Islam willfully, what's the evidence? One evidence is the name of my very ancestral town that is named after a Sufi Saint, who settled down there centuries ago, and attracted such following that a village developed around his dwelling. It ws Sufism and its mystical, peaceful, caste free message that brought so many people to Islam, NOT swords. To claim otherwise would be an attempt to revise history
meinIndus 4 weeks ago
@meinIndus what about muhhamad bin qasim who tried to convert each n evry hindu in sindh . what about aurangzeb who wanted islamic india. what about now days sindh where girls are rapped and are converted . yes about sufism i agree that sindh was birthplace of sufism in india but sufism and domination are 2 different concept. yes our kings were brave so today india is hindu or this dumb muslim leaders would had done Ghazwa-E-Hind .
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus if muslims were happyly converted and they were hindus before then what was need of partition there would had been a single happy bharat
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 Rather than looking for ways to blame/accuse others for conversions, it may be more helpful to look inward to see what makes people convert to other religions in large numbers even TODAY. All other religions within India...Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Budhism, Sikhism... have 2 things in common. Unlike Hinduism, they're all monotheistic, and they all reject the caste system. That's what has historically appealed to people, or they wouldn't have converted to ANY of these religions
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus actually if muslims not have caste system then what is sunni and shia there are numerous examples of sunni n shia war . yeah they are monotheistic but sikhism , budhism , judaism , jainism still beleive in hindu philosophys liks swastik , shree ganesh, aum etc other two are still finding god like christianity has there prophet as jesus who was son of god but not god, islam has there prophet as muhamad who wasnt god but avatar (messenger) of god. hindus have seen there gods...!!
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 I'm from northern Punjab and my background is Shia, so we're much closer to Sufism than Wahabism. As for Shia/Sunni/Wahabi division, for the most part it's not as bad as you think. Half of my family is married to Sunnis and even a couple of Wahabis, who, contrary to what you think, are not all extremists. Secterianism, btw, is NOT sanctioned by our religion..I can show you verses from the Quran about it. Caste system, however, is part and parcel of Hinduism. Hence the conversions
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus caste system as we know it 2day is not sanctioned in any hindu scripture based on birth. but the scriptures do talk about people being priests, in the military, business and service. these segments are true of any society, but what we have done is imparted superiority to one over the other. which no where says that one is greater or better than the other. So yes we are 2 rectify the misinterpretation. regardless of how God originated from us. the fact is He willed us here.
Perihelion99 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus how can u claim that conversations werent forceful many were forceful and what you are telling about castes u even dont know our castes then also you are shouting with no information . and wat about discrimination of punjabi muslims with balochistanis and sindhis...!!
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 So the Taliban destroyed ONE statue of a faith which was practiced by their very distant ancestors and which had already dissappeared centuries ago ; While the Hindu kings of early Middle Ages destroyed COUNTLESS statues, shrines, monastaries, killed monks, used deragatory language in religious texts towards Budhists at the time Budhism was still a living, breathing religion that was being practiced by a large number of people of the land. And you're comparing one to the other?
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus hahaha what proof do u have about it our many kings were buddhist like the mauryans for example u have no base u r only barking on rumours even gautam buddha was born in India do u know who is he hahahaha no u dont let it be and statue u r talking about and giving it no respect was a world heritage site are u DUMB...!!
zolmaster100 2 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 What hahaha? Didn't you just spend the last few weeks bitching and moaning "wwaahh Muslims did this" "waaah Muslims did that"? Where was YOUR goddamned proof? huh? You want proof? Go find it on wikipedia like you asked ME to do earlier! Go find out who cut down the bodhi tree! I've been calmly responding to all kinds of shit you've been barking against Muslims but did I get nasty like you are now? Pissed off, are ya? Now you know how others feel when you talk shit about them.
meinIndus 2 weeks ago
@meinIndus lol bodhi true dumbo its Bodh gaya still situated in Bihar India lolz and the tree where gautum buddha used to rest is still present there lolz pakistan was born to make false claims hahhahahahahahahahahahhahaahahah frm u r talking it seems u r pissed of hahahahahahahahahahahahh lol roflmao...!!
zolmaster100 2 weeks ago
@meinIndus u realize there r 2 types of conversion, one which is voluntary and the other is forced. we would need statistics to understand how many people converted out of prejudice suffered under Hinduism and otherwise. Else we are simply speculating. Buddhism never had any castes yet they were killed by muslims simply for idol worship. it is no ones business how one chooses 2 worship. organized religion is nothing but trouble. Please let people worship in peace !
Perihelion99 3 weeks ago
@Perihelion99 Here's the thing. You can't on one hand talk about mutual respect(of which I'm wholeheartedly in favor, granted that it really is mutual), and then do exactly what you claim that we do...that is to blame all ills on a single entity, which, as per the very nature of this video and the discussion it has inspired, seems to be Islam and Muslims. You say Budhists were killed off by Muslims? That's a claim that I've only heard from Hindus, not Budhists themselves. (contd.)
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus A claim from Hindus wow , itz your old habbit please accept the facts what happen in afganistan when gautam buddhas idol was demolished in afganistan in March 2001 by taliban and what is happening in Thailand were buddhist are killed by muslims.
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@Perihelion99 (contd) Secondly, the claim itself doesn't make sense, and seems to only work toward the goal of demonizing Muslims. There is plenty of historical evidence, from discriminatory words against Budhists in Hindu texts, to the fact that the Hindu killing of Budhist monks, destruction of their monastaries, and replacement of their shrines with Hindu temples was talking place as early as 605 A.D. with King Sasanka..long before Islam was even born, let alone entered the subcontinent(cont)
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@Perihelion99 Lastely, and once again, my only reason for bringing up the caste system and how it could have contributed to conversion of many out of Hinduism is in response to the claims made by Hindus in this video and almost everywhere, that Muslims converted people by force. Is someone still forcing people worldwide to convert to Islam in huge numbers? No. So the only thing this propaganda accomplishes is to prevent both of our people from healing from wounds of the past.
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 Partition, or as we call it, Independence, can be blamed squarely on the bigotary born out of the revisionist movement, an example of which is this video and this discussion. Jinnah wanted a united India. But it was the Hindutva Hindus' mindset that led to the creation of Pakistan. If you remember, Muslims had voted for the congress party, not the Muslim League but during its 1935-39 rule, Congress' bigoted policies towards Muslims woke them up. Hate ALWAYS pushes people away
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus if muslims & hindus from 1000 years were living peacefully then what was the need of partition then.u say u r frm sindh,sindh was a place were both muslims and hindus were living peacefully and till day they r living peacefully and so was in punjab n bengal.muhajirs who were far from todays Pakistan were from Up and Bihar.In 1857 as u r history is so correct there was war between kings of India and British in that war all Hindu kings fought under a muslim mughal king Bhadur Shah Zafar
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 do u really think muslims and hindus were living in peace for 1000 years...then y the horrendous massacres during the partition? seems to me like this was their opportunity to vent and this applies to both religions. there is a severe requirement for 2 way mutual respect. and I sincerely hope that v can accomplish this in the subcontinent.
Perihelion99 3 weeks ago
@Perihelion99 yes during the time of akbar and his sons andte peacefull muslims living in villages were peacefull too hindus and so were hindus too them...!!
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus And about congress if i m right u are talking about khilafat movement which was withdrawn by gandhi and muslim league was founded.by taking back Non-Corporation movement neither hindus nor muslims were happy and Bhagat Singh a follower of gandhiji moved away frm him n went in HRA . after that Dont knw About jinnah but Nehru a traitor wanted money and power and still there were many muslim leaders like Maulana Azad who stopped muslims from going in pak
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus and khan abdul gaffar khan who was , Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa, province of pak who
Ghaffar Khan strongly opposed the Muslim League's demand for the partition of India. When the Indian National Congress accepted the partition plan, he told them "You have thrown us to the wolves."
doesnt he was a muslim or now u will name him kaffir as he wasnt with muslim league
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 (contd) as for Monotheism, Prophet Muhammad is NOT in any way divine and the Quran states that clearly. Look, I am not putting down your religion. It must work for you or else it wouldn't exist. My mention of it was only to bring ur attention to the fact that Polytheism PLUS the caste system is what sets it apart from other religions that people have converted to, so u can't rule out the idea that there was something other than compulsion that made them convert to these religions
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus yes prophet muhamad wasnt a god , only brahma , vishnu and mahesh our chief gods....!!
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 (contd) As for Muslims who opposed Pakistan, they had their concerns and although I don't agree with them, I can't call them kafir for it.lol. But yeah, there was a time when Muslims and Hindus fought together against the British. Had things stayed that way, we could've remained one country. But the British divide and conquer policy worked and suddenly, hate speech against Muslims began to appear in the late 1800's. The resulting hatred and bigotary led to Pakistan's Independence
meinIndus 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus yes bigoted muslims will say they wanted pakistan now they want kashmir . if hate speech came in 1800 brother during 1800 India was under mughal rule...!!
zolmaster100 3 weeks ago
@meinIndus taali do haath se bajti hai...old saying but always applicable. Jinnah was concerned about the Muslims economic interests as well, since they thought the Hindus would suffocate Muslims out of commerce. blaming the entire thing on a single entity and more specifically "a" religion, namely Hindus, is not going to help us have a mutual dialogue. we do admit our shortcomings but r u willing to do the same ?
Perihelion99 3 weeks ago
@zolmaster100 (contd) Why not try to figure out the past by looking at the end result? Common sense dictates that if the Muslims were hell bent on converting all Hindus to Islam then A) they were successful in converting all Hindus over the centuries, B) they were unsuccessful because Hindus fought back. Scenerio A didn't occur because there are still more Hindus than Muslims. And B is unlikely because the Hindus would have either won and kicked the Muslims out or lost and been annihilated. No?
meinIndus 1 month ago
I have come to the conclusion that long before all other heavenly books, God had revealed to the Hindus through the rishis of yore His four books of knowledge, the Rig Veda, the Yajur Veda, the Sama Veda and the Atharva Veda.
-- Prince Muhammad Dara Shikoh (1627-1658), a Sufi Muslim, later executed by his brother Aurangazeb
hahahahha now say who has saw gods first and which was the holy land...!!
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 What's so strange about it, since, A) Vedas do predate holy books like the Torah, the Gospel, the Quran, and B) Quran does state in multiple places that prophets were sent from God to EVERY group of humanity, but that their message was either corrupted or forgotten by their people. Since the Vedas have multiple authors, it's possible that at least SOME of them were true prophets, hence some similarities between vedas and other holy books. The same can be true for Budhist teachings
meinIndus 1 month ago
@meinIndus but i m not against any holy book and i m not claiming that we hindus are superiror than any other dharma. but i m saying that evry one is equal and no one can claim that r hindu kings were cowrds. i have great respect for akbar but aurangzeb was cruel and that is the fact . i m also against forcefull conversions that u r so called "BRAVE" kings did on our hindu brothers.and u ppl always claim that u r religion is superiror if itz so then we will not accept it sorry...!
zolmaster100 1 month ago
@zolmaster100 You have to remember that some of the people you're refering to as "our hindu brothers" who were "forcefully" converted were MY direct ancestors who not only practiced Hindu relgion for thousands of years, but were instrumental in its develoement...and I am also telling you that we were NOT forcefully converted. It was, and still today is, a choice, to be Muslims. Being able to choose your religion is one of fundamental human rights. We chose Islam and u have to accept it.
meinIndus 1 month ago
Actually, Persia remained a land of enlightenment long after Islam's arrival, and India was the richest country DURING Muslim Mogul rule, prompting the British to refer to it as "the Golden Sparrow" while planning to colonize it. The Arab societies were a backward mess of ignorance, but after Islam, became the most educated and advanced societies from 7th to 12th centuries with exploration in science, astronomy, astrology, mathmatics, medicine, art, philosophy.. Research before spewing out stuff
meinIndus 1 month ago
A feeble attempt to rewrite history in order to rile up national pride and militancy among Hindus against Muslims and Pakistan. How much of this "history" can actually be found in Hindu records prior to British takeover of India? British,who were threatened by joint Muslim/Hindu struggle to free India, started the policy of divide and conquer. It is during that period that the re-writing of history and tales of Muslim "atrocities" as well as "fierce" Hindu resistence started showing up.
meinIndus 1 month ago
The video would be reasonable if there were context stating where the information was gotten from. Anyone can add a few pictures/ slides and insert info based on their on will. Who ever uploaded this video is a perfect example of an illiterate person. It's people like this who still can't get over ethnic issues living in a mixed racial and cultural society. The damn British divided and ruled over India for 100s of years. Why aren't you complaining about that. illiterate people holding back india
ifham90 1 month ago
so hindu are muslim ?
jaimesssi 1 month ago
Unfortunately, Indians will never learn about this due to their apologetic education system. India is the only country which didnt turn Islamic inspite of 1000 years of Islamic attacks (and not rule). Persia collapsed within 100 years, Mesopotamia also under few decades (the Byzantine empire). Hindus faught till the very end and never surrendered. Unfortunately even after winning the right to follow hinduism it has an Islamic enemy on it west armed with weapons.
mrbond107 1 month ago 2
@mrbond107 out of all mugals only aurangazeb and jahangir were muslims in true meaning they are the best rulers india ever got
alikool0001 1 month ago
@mrbond107 we know what is happening in hindu rule gujrat roites must be biggest proof
alikool0001 1 month ago
@alikool0001 One bad incident in 5000 years of Hindu history, and you paint all Hindu and Sikhs bad ? Did history teach you about the Islamic masscares in India between 800-1600 A.D. in which millions of Hindus perished or sold as slaves in Arabia ? Gujarat was just a drop compared to the ocean of injustices done by Islamics in India.
mrbond107 1 month ago
is this guy a retared or what
alikool0001 2 months ago
@alikool0001 You seem to be a retard by ignoring reality !
mrbond107 1 month ago
@mrbond107 do u know my present subject of study it is the world influence of islam on world history u are still living in a dream world u idiot box !!!!!!!
get out of ur anti islamic amnisia!!!!!!
alikool0001 1 month ago
@alikool0001 Before Islam, Persia (Iran) was a beakon of enlightenment and among the most educated socities, look at it today. Before Islam, India was the richest country, look at it today. You are probably studying in a Madrassa where they dont teach you real history or analytical thinking, but if you step out you will realize that eveything that Islam has touched has turned to crap.
mrbond107 1 month ago 4
at that time rajput were not yet there ... by 712arabs were already in india
afganistan was never as buddhist majority region arabs took many of kingdoms using deplomatic tacticks
babar was a fearce warrior
thing about akbar is a big joke as per ur own hystorians akbar was better than chandrgupth
shivajji by all hystorians is called mountain rat by that u can tell what he was
this shows how foolish is the vedio maker it is the world renound fact that muslims were creators of best empires
alikool0001 2 months ago
@alikool0001 they r in india...which is now pakistan..borders of baluchistan...and then u guys get converted to islam by force....afghanistan was buddhist majority state but it get converted also...
loveindublin 2 months ago
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@loveindublin there was no time since last 1500 years in afganistan the last date of any budddhist tempel in that reggion is 349bc
alikool0001 2 months ago
this saad is very chutya he comes in channal and oments and he dissable us to comment on his channal bcoz hes wrong...!!
zolmaster100 2 months ago
@zolmaster100 The best reply to the misconceptiorepeated."n that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8):
"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever
alikool0001 2 months ago
Wrong again....there is no concept of forced conversion to islam in islam,its purely an individual's decision.Ask any muslim of sub continent and you'd know the reality of FORCED CONVERSIONS.
saad5207 2 months ago
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@saad5207
Gaandu abbu ka bachcha hai,
Naam hai uska SAAD.
Raat ko chodey apni amma,
Din mein maare PAAD.
bhaagobosedk 2 months ago 2
@saad5207 gand pe mari laat aur SAAD ne mari PAAD...!!
zolmaster100 2 months ago
@saad5207
Just like u r justifying breaking temples by saying that its right in quran, in that case an atheist also has right to break masjids as they believe its useless to sit and speak words 5 times a day, so why keep that building. The truth about breaking temples was that when mughal kings won the war by deceit, they would loot people's money, rob money from temples and destroy it, forcefully convert people to Islam. When they don't, kill them. Plz tell me how was Banda Bahadur killed ??
U5011453 2 months ago
@saad5207
But still I see that Pakistani/Indian muslims attitude is better than that of arabs. Arabs still believe it to be right what mughals did in India in the past. See this video of an arab saying that a Muslim asks non-muslim to convert to Islam, if not then asks him to pay Jaziya, if he doesn't pay Jaziya then fight them.
/watch?v=T8J8CSBz1c0
U5011453 2 months ago
@U5011453 what did mugals do to india in history of india the max g.d.p was 30.37% during aurangazeb's period . now indias g.d.p is 7% .u betrayed him for that indias betrayer govind who was rightfully killed by aurangazeb
alikool0001 2 months ago
@alikool0001
Yeah actually this is why Mughals came to India due to enormous wealth here. Along with that also converting people forcefully to Islam was the first policy. Mughals contributed nothing to India but just war, plunder, rape, forceful conversion and every worst thing. India already was exporting a lot to the world, this is why first came the Greeks, then Sakas, then Huns, then Muslims then British. Jahangir allowed British to come not non-Muslims.
U5011453 2 months ago
@U5011453 ya read the time of mugal empier was the most succesful period of india till now better than now if ur an non muslim and u are an indian then u the greatest and greatest proof of no that there was no force ful conversion in india by any muslim ruler
alikool0001 2 months ago
@alikool0001
The most successful time for India was well before Muslim invasions. Why did invasions happen in the first place ?? The only reason for survival of Non-Muslims in India is defense. If you really think that there was no forceful conversion then read the Muslim sources by yourself. Read Baburnama(Babur), Akbarnama(Akbar), Ain-e-Akbari(Akbar), Mirat-e-Alam(Aurangzeb), Alamgirnama(Aurangzeb), Zafarnama(Aurangzeb), Fatehnama(Aurangzeb) etc. You will get to know what happened and what not
U5011453 2 months ago 2
@saad5207
u must to GOLDEN TEMPLE museum in AMIRTSAR and check reality ,,,,,,
islam is not a religion to be followed
it is all of bloodshed ,conversion
not at all of peacefull living
maniagorsi 2 months ago
@maniagorsi
U Fucker don't include religion in this matter.
Pratyusha49 2 months ago
@maniagorsi
Please leave this country in peace state .... ok .
Pratyusha49 2 months ago
@Pratyusha49
first of all u r a ASSHOLE!!!!!!
u can also reply to saad5207 alikool
i have no problem with their religion
i have problem with their attitude, never ready accept changes and orthodox mentality.......
maniagorsi 2 months ago
All The people of india were idol worshippers before the arrival of islam in the sub continent,so naturally there are mostly temple ruins as archeological evidences.......there are quite a few mosque remains also,sorry i don't think i'll REMAIN QUIET ON THAT.Wrong pakistani people's genetics match with people from all of india as many of them migrated here.
saad5207 2 months ago
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@saad5207 but muslims are also idol worshippers. If that is not the case, can muslims stop facing the kaaba while praying to Allah? Do not give me stupid excuses that for the sake of unity muslims face the kaaba or its just a direction
vixter1980 2 months ago
@saad5207
U really have no idea what u are talking about do you ?? Read even the history of afghanistan, on how Buddhism perished there, read the history of Iran on how Zoroastrianism perished there. Islamic history is the history of bloodshed of non-muslims for the crime they didn't commit. They broke temples, and just coz its right in Islam, doesn't make it right. Islam can't co exist with other religions. This is why Sharia is good for muslims but worst for non-muslims.
U5011453 2 months ago
@U5011453 there was no time since last 1500 years in afganistan the last date of any budddhist tempel in that reggion is 349bc
alikool0001 2 months ago
Again u show a complete lack of sense...we don't pray or prostate before a stone rather we pray before Almighty Allah.Its worship of One true God,not stone,a worship done as the God commands us.The language barrier is there but there are many non muslim arabs,Islam is a universal religion for all races,its the belief (faith) that matters not the language.
saad5207 2 months ago
@saad5207
When you go round and round your Kaabah and kiss it, you don't worship "it" but you worship your God The Almighty, but when Hindus do the same, they worship statues and idols. Isn't that contradictory???
privani 2 months ago
"There is no compulsion in religion".Please use your brain it means God does'nt want forced conversions to islam and therefore we should'nt convert or try to covert any one against his will.
saad5207 2 months ago
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@saad5207 If there was no compulsion in ISLAM then how today's Pakistanis & Bangladeshis, who were once ex-Hindus, r Muslims today?? How once Hindus-Buddhists of Gandhara (Afghanstan) are Muslims today ?? The truth is ISLAM came to all d aforementioned places with Sword & Fire, conquering as many as 85 million Hindus, who were given d Ultimatum 'ISLAM or DEATH'. While many of them braved Death, most of them embraced Islam to save their Lives, Limbs & honour of women folk.
Tobveryhonest 2 months ago
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@saad5207 But the biggest Irony is that the present Pakis, Bengalis & Kashmiris have failed to realize that they were never Muslims but were forced to accept Islam at DEADLY TYRANNY. They fail to realize that they r infact practicing and propagating a Religion called ISLAM, which was rather imposed upon them by their Tormentors or Invaders.Thus they have bcome Banner of their own Tormentors & are totally sterile to their own ancestory today.
Only Hindus of India repulsed the Muslim invaders.
Tobveryhonest 2 months ago
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@saad5207 Not only Pakistan, Bangladesh or Kashmir but also many flourishing civilizations were viped out from the Globe by ISLAMIC JIHADIS. Babylonia (Iraq), Zorashtrian Persia (Iran), Mesopotamia (syria), Pharoah land (Egypt), former Christian nations of Albania, Kosovo & Bosnia, Berber republics of North Africa & many many Buddhist nations of Central Asia were devastated by MUSLIMS.
Today the natives of these ancient nations r totally sterile to their own ancestory & hence practice ISLAM.
Tobveryhonest 2 months ago
@saad5207
"No compulsion in religion" cannot mean no forced conversion. No compulsion in religion means a person can be a good human no matter what religion. Matter of belief and faith is a stupid thing, why say such thing 5 times a day which u dont understand? Its mere stupidity. just coz breaking idols is fine in quran, doesn't make it right. They broke temples coz they didn't tolerate existence of other religions. If pak genes match with india then tell me where muslims came from ??
U5011453 2 months ago
Those who suggest that islam forces itself upon the UNBELIEVERS are wrong,biased and islamophobic.To be a muslim you have to believe in ONE TRUE GOD,in all the prophets,all the holy scriptures,angels, the day of judgement and the fact that fate is governed and influenced by God alone. The Holy Quran clearly states that "there is no compulsion in religion". That is u only become a muslim if u convert from heart and forcible conversion is a SIN.In india the spread of islam was due to sufi saints.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207
"there is no compulsion in religion"
alright so I just have to be a good man and don't have to embrace Islam, right ?? But in Islam it is compulsory to believe in all fairy tales, prophets, child born from virgin, flying donkeys, stick turning to snake, God speaking to prophets etc. otherwise hell, right ?? and to enter heaven we have to say "La Ilaha ilallah Muhammadur Rasool Allah". but if i'm a Non-Muslim I don't believe that. So what does no compulsion in religion in Islam mean ??
U5011453 3 months ago
@saad5207
""Hey ajayitis if WISDOM means making idols out of sand and stone and bowing before them,if WISDOM means believing that cows,snakes,elephents,monkeys and rats are Gods then seriously i don't need neither do i want such WISDOM""
haha, whether u pray to a stone or 5(why not 4?) times a day to so called Allah, that's the same thing coz both are useless. There is no wisdom in sitting and speaking words and u won't even understand the language!!!!! :\
U5011453 3 months ago
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@saad5207 In India ISLAM was spread by DEATH THREATS and CONVERSION BY SWORD. Jz check the History of Bangladesh & Pakistan. They all were Ex-Hindus & SON OF RAPED BITCHES upon whom millions of Muslim Invaders of Arab, Mughal, Turkic, Persian origin had frolic for unbroken 1000 yrs. This is the real reason they r sterile to their ancestory
Only the region v call INDIA today was able to repulse the Muslim Invaders owing to Brave Rajput, Sikh, Maratha & Gurkhas,so were never converted forcibly.
Tobveryhonest 2 months ago
Hey ajayitis if WISDOM means making idols out of sand and stone and bowing before them,if WISDOM means believing that cows,snakes,elephents,monkeys and rats are Gods then seriously i don't need neither do i want such WISDOM.Apart from that i don't need WISDOM of believing lies.Sorry but i sincerely believe that it is you who is beyond HOPE.
saad5207 3 months ago
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@saad5207 So what does ISLAM means? Killing Cows,Monkeys,Snakes & Rats eating their Roasted Ass, Dick, Testicles, Intestine & making Biryani out of it....Right ??? Hinduism never believes that Animals r gods they r jz Gift of Gods.Hinduism never advices anyone to Eat Animal Meat or Drink their Blood. So Hinduism has been accredited of being more non-violent. While ISLAM is Blood-thirsty in Origin, Hunting Animals & even Slaying fellow Human. ISLAM is a synoname of Butchery & Savagery.
Tobveryhonest 2 months ago
ZOLMASTER dig that.......Gand pe marke hath me ne teri MA KE MU PE MARI PAAD,phatgya bhanda is bar,tjh jese chutya ka hu me BAP:):):)
saad5207 3 months ago
Thankyou very much but I KNOW THE REALITY (perhaps u should strive a little harder to get to know it too).The history,science and archeological evidence all points out to the reality of a 1000 years of muslim rule in the sub continent.As for correct translation of Quran and the errors that u suggest it has, go and check it out the Holy Quran is the same in all parts of the world,it is the single Holy scripture which effects human beings the most,your approval is not required.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207
....and if we go finding archeological evidences, we will find only the ruins of temples of other religions and nothing else, so better be quiet on that. and BTW, pakistani people's genetics match with people from Indus valley civilisation, right ?? ever wondered how come ??
U5011453 3 months ago
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gemphu1234 2 months ago
@gemphu1234
Genetics match coz they used to be Hindus and now are forced converts. I don't know if genetics match or not, but Pakistani people say so. I see that u r from India, may be u misunderstood my comment. Read all of my comments.
U5011453 2 months ago
@U5011453
Sorry brother.I am removing my comment.
gemphu1234 2 months ago
@gemphu1234
No worries mate :)
U5011453 2 months ago
Give it up buddies talking to a Fucking Muslim is like talking to a wall... Muslims will believe what Fucking Muhammad has taught them and if any one shows the sign of wisdom then he will be slain by same fucking Muslims because of Some silly FATWA lol... They don't have hope
ajayitis 3 months ago
If wisdom means stupidly and mindlessly agreeing with a LIE then no thanks i'll hold on to my ignorance.I am always open minded not biased at all,and where should i go for neutral media,you indians or the westerners (both vehemently anti muslim).The fact is that u hate the reality of a 1000 year muslim rule despite the fact that the muslims were in minority and remain to this day a minority in india,tell me if they had decided to eliminate all KAFIRS then would any of the non muslims be alive?
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 live ur fairy dream, or learn reality by history, science, archaeological evidence, and correct translation of Quran which expose 1000s of error in it.
ak220880 3 months ago
@saad5207 gand pe marke lath saad ne mara paad ! haahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
zolmaster100 3 months ago
@saad5207
Brother Muslim rule was not a problem, problem was that they wanted to force their religion on others(not all of them). Anyway it wasn't 1000 years and it wasn't all over India anytime. But they forced their religion on non-muslims. Not just India, u can also read the history of Iran and other countries where Islamic invasion happened.
U5011453 3 months ago
Ofcourse the muslims ruled all india,not just hindus however as the video in question pathetically limits 1000 yr muslim rule of india to 150 yrs,i have to state the facts........Mohammad bin Qasim to Bahadur Shah Zafar (1000 yr muslim rule of india).And the ironic fact is that in the war of independence 1857 the hindus themselves crowned Bahadur shah Zafar as the sole monarch of india,such was their belief that only muslims can rule united india.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 i have already told u truth, its ur wish, u want to choose wisdom or ignorance. Or u can find a middle way, that is search things with open mind, and from neutral media. otherwise if u choose ignorance, then keep on argumentation endlessly, instead of correcting things and take it to the level of regression and destroy self.
ak220880 3 months ago
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@saad5207
Ek raat ki hai ye BAAT ,
Gaand mara raha tha SAAD.
Zor se mara lun jo maine,
Saad ke mu se nikla PAAD.
bhaagobosedk 2 months ago 5
Akber was a hypocrite who died as a muslim (kalima on his lips at death),Plitics is what im talking here (muslim rule of india)Aurangzeb was and remains to this day the single most greatest Emperor of india,just look at his reign,he took on marhattas,rajputs,jats and sikhs (when they revolted against muslim rule),defeated them all,mughul rule reached its climax under his reign,it was his lazy descendents who sealed the fate of muslim rule of india.As for 1000 yr hindu rule,i hav 1 answer....LOL.
saad5207 3 months ago
NO soviet union met its downfall b/c it messed with wrong people,the Afghans are famous for beating the shit out of foreign invaders,they gave the soviets the same treatment which they gave to the British and currently giving the Americans,therefore the soviet union went PUFFF.The americans supplied weapons only when a victory for Afghans was apparent,they catalised the Afghan victory but were'nt the cause of it.As for the world hating pakistan...LOL,what can't break u only makes u stronger.
saad5207 3 months ago
HAHAHA idiot, Ghouri fought prithvi 2 times not 3.....LOL.True he got defeated first time but then he came back and annhilated prithvi and his forces..........Endresult.........decisive victory for the Afghans,conquest of entire north india by the muslims and 1000 year old muslim rule over india........Anyway if some demented lunatic believes your version of prithvi's grand victory over ghouri (laughs) then tell me who ruled Delhi after that war...........the truth is u just cant accept reality.
saad5207 3 months ago
If you were'nt so biased and if you had read unbiased islamic history you'd know that the contributions by the muslims for the comfort and advancement of humanity were astronomical at the very least.If converted muslims are not considered muslims according to Quran than tell me why is islam the fastest spreading religion on earth?As for the last part,true we have'nt been on the offensive for quite a long time,but incase you had'nt noticed a superpower the soviet union met its downfall by afghans
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 Soviet Union downfall is because of partnership and geographical advantageous position of US and Pakistan. well Pakistan have spreaded hate towards Soviet Union and India, result is now whole world hates Pakistan. God have strange way of justice, hate always come back.
India spreaded love always, and result is, India is in the way of next super-power, with strong economics. u can deny it if u wish, but it wud not change reality.
ak220880 3 months ago
@saad5207 Akbar was not Muslim and a Kafir it is truth, he has many Hindu ppl at high position in his rule. watever fight he did after his adulthood, was not Hindu Muslim fight, that were political fights.
Mughal decline is not becoz of lazyness. but because of peoples' hate towards Aurangzeb in return of his violence and crulety, which make his dynasty weak and hollow from inside.
longest Muslim rule was Mughal, bcoz of Akbar. otherwise 1000 yr Hindu ruled Indian subcontinent.
ak220880 3 months ago
@saad5207 Rajput, Maratha, Satriya, and Mughal rules not only on Hindus, but they ruled over Muslims also. So, ur point Muslim ruled over Hindus, have basic logical mistake. It was not democracy.
ak220880 3 months ago
Akbar was a hypocrite,he too killed many rajputs at the battle of chitor.Aurangzeb's only crime was that he fought and stopped the marhattas from revolting against mughul rule..........the decline of mughuls was due to the fact that later kings were lazy and inept to rule such a big country. Your conclusion is woefully wrong,for the past 1000 years (before 1857)the muslims have always defeated hindus and sikhs,and ruled over them.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 bullshit mohammad ghouri was defeated twice by prithvi.
TheHinduzionist 3 months ago
saad5207what BLAH BLAH BLAH....just u can rule our India in dreams..may be in dreams also it cant..GOD will always love good people who strives hardly for peace and happinesss of others. Do u think in that GOD that teahces hatred and killing people for religious upliftment. Not atlll brother ..Muslims world see them as terrorist..why..morethan this name is ENglish word..not taken origin from India or given by Hindus..its internationally accepted..
689711 3 months ago
Akbar left Islam and so able to rule peacefully and sustain his region, after him region starts to continuously decline bcoz further ruler forget the teachings of Akbar. Aurangzeb again try to acquire more land by cruelty and violence, but bcoz of it people start to hate mughal, and then mughal empire start to decline again.
conclusion Love will always win over Hate, and Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist will always win over Muslims.
ak220880 3 months ago
BLAH BLAH BLAH...........bark and grunt as much as you want the fact remains that the muslims ruled united india for a 1000 years,a fact which is more than enough to keep you idiots at your rightful place........(yeah below our cocks LOL)
And guess what ,we'll rule india again,in the near future..........Ghazwa e Hind Zindabad.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 You are right. Fact remains. So every knowledgable people hate muslims.Except trerror there is no contribution to the world by muslims.Only things they know are looting,raping and killing . Some exceptions are there.But all are made by the converted muslims who don't even know that they are not muslim at all according to Qran.By the by tell me a war which was won by any muslim ruled nation in last 100 years.Try your best to that. But world is not reigned by sword today.
cnilotpal 3 months ago
The sikhs were massacred by the Mughuls then Afghans,in their homeland i.e Punjab,the sikh rebellion only reached its climax when the muslim power in sub continent had reached a record low.However during proper muslim rule there was'nt any such rebellion.As for muslims not coming across any resistance,i would'nt say so,they came,they saw and they conqured period
saad5207 3 months ago
STOP maligning history. Indian society was so divided in caste system that muslims did not come across any resistance. It was sikhs in the end who stood up and were able to defeat them. Only handful brave hindus fought muslims.
MrSurreycanada 3 months ago
@MrSurreycanada - see how 'saad5207' is proud of their deeds. They massacred, they came, they conquered... saying like they saved the world from an armageddon. Seems like u r wrong professor.
There were many kinds but now there are only TWO,
1. People who make crackers and bang them
2. and Rest of the World
deal with reality
trajkiran007 3 months ago
Islam always fuck to our nation but still muslims majority is more than pakistan in India. Every muslims think about it because history always hurt us what u did with us....................................
sachin1983100 3 months ago
However its our belief that the tide would shift in our favour very soon,we have the tools for global domination,sacrifices are to be made for the greater good,its us that'll rule this world in the long run.For india we have Ghazwa e hind in store.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207
Don't be so naive, Only one word to refute your comment.....Chinese.
bobbyboucher001 3 months ago in playlist Hindu History
@saad5207 do u know, most sustainable king in mughal was Akbar. He was illiterate but knowledgeable. after learning many religion including Islam, he left the Islam by saying it is not a perfect religion, and adopt a new religion that is Deen-e-ilahi. he spent his initial years in a Hindu family, this is the only reason, he able to sustain, and after his period Mughal start to decline. And never successful to acquire whole region. Akbar was failed to write abt Deen-e-ilahi, this cud be reason
ak220880 3 months ago
Cmon take a sip of cow piss and see the reality dude,the muslims were powerful enough to make the rajputs look like Barbie dolls,they could have eliminated you in a manner of months,but they did'nt,thats why u r alive alongwith billions of other hindus in india. The fate of muslim nations today is due to their own stupidity and sins,the muslim world is very rich and powerful,we have deposits of oil,minerals,uranium and energetic youth makes 70% of our population,its the sins that hamper us.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 - you said u have the deposits of Oil, Minerals, Uranium. How do you came to know that u have all those ? Wake up kid, u r wealthy because of Americans. You didn't know until Americans found.
What have you contributed to world ?
Did you invent anything ?
Did you made any discoveries ?
Do you have your own knowledge of developing technology ? Other than making crackers.
You even don't have the Technicians, Engineers, workers. All who work in Arab countries are from other countries.
trajkiran007 3 months ago
cow piss better than Camel piss for that matter-What energetic youth u talking about the same youth that all it does is fuck fuck and fuck some more-mate i can get 2 rabbits if i want to see that kind of action and procreation too right and they would show u up?? I read somewhere the reason u mullahs and mutawas keep beard is to show who is more horny, cause mate thinking of sex ( basically being horny) is a direct link to his beard growth. oh yeah KAABA =Home for PENIS IN VAGINA -try any temple
metalserpent1 3 months ago
@saad5207
HEY MAN Y DO U GUYS CIRCUMCISE-
HEALTH REASON-NAH
FEEL GOOD FACTOR-NAH
BECAUSE U CANT STAND THE FACT THAT EVERYONE IS BORN HINDU-U CUNT u should have been a Muslim chic then u know what submission and oppression means
metalserpent1 3 months ago
bappa rawal and raja dahir the sindhi warriors...!
zolmaster100 3 months ago
dharm yudh firse chidega...!
zolmaster100 3 months ago
The Truth.......indian hindus owe their existance and their religion's existance to the generous muslim rulers who despite being powerful enough to literally eliminate them by a single Royal Decree were merciful and big hearted.What is your reality,owned and ruled by muslims for a 1000 years,then broken from left and right when the tide turned after the arrival of the British.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 "Indian hindus owe their existance and their religion's existance to the generous muslim rulers"
Generous my ass, They only came to India to Loot and Murder. All Muslims should be ashamed of their History. Muslim Rulers came to India like Shameless Filthy Dogs.
God never lets Evil Men win so now they faded into History Books and now look at fate of Muslim Nations, Bombed, Raped, Treated like Shit by the same Jews, Christians and Pagans that they hated. Seems Allah is with Infidels.
forgottenmemories63 3 months ago
@saad5207 - Hinduism is the path of peace. It always welcomed foreigners to exchange the trade and knowledge. Ur culture is an off chute of many paths such as Pagan, Jews, christianity and as a matter of fact Hinduism.
Don't you know that majority of the muslims around the World who are breathing free air are in other countries like America, Britain, France, India etc. rather than in a Muslim country.
Wake up kid. U r a baby among the world religions.
trajkiran007 3 months ago
Amazing......u hindus r masters of distortion,Muslim ruled united india for 1000 years and the legendary hindus for all their bravado (laughs) and majority could'nt oust them from power,Somnath temple was raised to the ground,the idol beheaded and the brave Hindus were just too generous to stop Mahmood Ghaznavi.The mighty shivaji (mountain rat) had to hide in the mountains to escape death at Aurangzeb's hands,Ahmed Shah Abdali massacred the lions (pussies) of india......Yup thats some bravery.
saad5207 3 months ago
@saad5207 - You r accepting that ur forefathers committed speechless cruelty against innocent and u r following them by praising their sins.
Indians were protecting their reign, it's the power hungry Arab illiterates who invaded.
Shivaji bravely accepted the invitation of Aurangzeb, despite suspecting the treachery. Aurangazeb held Shivaji captive. Then Shivaji escaped from the captivity.
Brave Indian Lions fought against many foreign invaders including the British. Today India stands free.
trajkiran007 3 months ago
HAR HAR MAHADEV !!!
HAR HAR MAHADEV !!!
HindutvaSoldier 3 months ago
very goo....... saare jahan se achcha hindustan hamara. (great india)
nonunikku181 3 months ago
Thanks for the English explanations,this is the only way we can divulge the true voice of India,showing how Islam distorted and smashed the indigenous cultures !But references are needed,so we can better stand up against the whitewashing pro-islam historians !
Gwynsek 3 months ago