Hi, my knees travel inwards when i squat and i have been informed that this is due to weak inner thighs. Can you recommend an exercise that doesn't incorporate a machine to strengthen these muscles because i exercise in my garage. Thanks
@joeyyy7 hehe ;) i kwon but that means than is probably to much presion your knees shoud not pass your toes, i´m a fitness instrutor :),if you knees shoudn´t pass your toes :)
@joeyyy7 yea same here. My knees never crack during squats but it can be anytime during the day and it would randomly snap, crackle, and pop...mostly morning and nights going up n down stairs.
@JonnyKozoom Use gradual progressive, focusing on the deep, low position. Concentrate on pushing the knees out while keeping your heels planted. Also, sit between the legs which is a different movement from the powerlifting type squat. Don't be too quick in adding weight. Happy training!
Joey, great squats, good depth, and good weight but I had to cringe and the noise from your knees ;-) a bit like the "nails on the black board" sound for me LOL
great, best A2G i've seen in youtube... i was doing two mistakes in the beginning, coming down fast, and pushing my knees forward.. (i was wondering why my knees hurt.. ) i corrected the problem by pulling out my butt when coming down.
@kwstas67 You need good ankle flexibility, and loose calves. For example I used to need to turn my feet out almost 45 degrees because I had crap ankle flexibility. With Oly shoes I can squat normalish (20 deg out or so)
Get some oly shoes they'll cure it pretty fast. Meantime of course stretch your calves and toe flexors.
This, is probably the best form I've seen on a squat on youtube. The knees come forward but the weight is on the heels and you're sitting back. I hit slightly below parallel (2-3 inches below. Probably around 1/3 your depth below parallel). Beyond that, my back will begin to turn slightly convex if I go that low. Is this just a gradual progression to this depth, or are there specific hip and/or hamstring stretches to do to improve this flexibility so I can get deeper? Thanks.
I've heard that you can injure your knees by letting your knees track over your toes like your showing here or shown by any olympic lifter?
Also I was wondering what stretching you have to do to allow for this depth of squat whilst keeping your back vertical? I think my Ichiles tendon is too tight?
Please reply asap as I'm currently recovering from a back strain and have just restarted training so wanted to perfect my technique while I'm working with little to no weight, and work up. Thanks.
@eegz88 I personally don't have (or ever had) knee problems. I have been squatting deep, Tommy Kono style, for a long time. However, my depth came through gradual progression. This is something that happened over years, and not right away. Do a google search about "Olympic Squats by Tommy Kono" and read anything by Dan John. Sit ass to grass throughout the day let your mind and body get use to the low position. Focus on keeping your heels on the ground and sitting "in between" your legs.
@joeyyy7 dude I know you say you have not had any knee problems but the sounds coming out of your knees as you squat say otherwise. I'm not a pro squater so I cant say for sure but I think your knees are moving too far forward as you squat (they will natually move a bit forward as you squat but I think you should keep them from moving past your toes), look up Ivan Chakarov for good example on what I'm talking about.. please take care of your knees or they wont be pain free forever! :D
@joeyyy7 One thing I have never understood is why weightlifters rigidly stick to Olympic high bar squat instead of a low bar squat. Since the back squat is an overall strengthening tool and not a specific one (like front squats) surely it makes sense to use maximum poundage which the low back squat allows ?
@MrMorry27 I do both type of squats. I just enjoy squatting in general. And you are correct, my poundage is a lot higher in the low bar squat. However, I don't have any hard goals outside of enjoyment from exercise and long term health. Train hard brother!
@eegz88 the knees past the toes thing is a myth. there studies about it if you really wanna research iit. and front squats are an easier way to keep your back straight .
@eegz88 Most of oly lifters knee problems come from rebounding out of squat cleans and snatches. The easy way to hurt your knees, however, is to not force the knees out throughout the hole motion.
@eegz88 You get knee injuries when you keep your toes pointed forward. You want your toes out at around a 30 degree angle and then your knees track your toes.
If you point your toes directly forward, you're setting yourself up to tear your ACL.
This is a question that forms off of slider2699 question. If you dont like using the squat rack and you dont have a spotter then if you cant get the weight up then what do you do?
@slider2699 Thanks Slider. I enjoy squatting outside the rack because I don't like the feeling of being in a "box". I know that sounds weird but I feel a sense of freedom from squatting in the open. The weights I have are bumper plates and I am squatting on a horse stall mat. I dump the bar right on the ground without any problems.
@CelticAndProud Getting weightlifting shoes (elevated heal) is the only way. Depending on how you're proportioned, the geometries of your body make it impossible without lifting shoes.
This guy has the best form without using lifting shoes of anyone I've ever seen.
@adkzMitch bro im 6'1 and used to have the same trouble, i play rugby and what helped me was watching all blacks training videos on here, they have some huge guys lifting uge weights and still deep squating
my squats are just hack my hips just align with my knees then i lift. My hip flexors aren't that flexible to go that low but you inspired me enough to start over with just the 45lb olympic bar and work my way up 5lbs at a time doing the stop squat.
@adkzMitch I'm 5'8". I worked the full squat without weight and gradually added weight, never compromising form. I also used "Goblet Squats" to help with the low position. Additionally, when I was able to squat with weight, I would do "stop squats" and pause for one second in the absolute bottom position. The stop squats helped me tremendously both physically and mentally. It really help me make the mind / body connection of the deep position.
@joeyyy7 I would recommend getting those creaky knees HOT before lifting that much. Get that Tigerbalm Linament (liquid), that stuff is the best. Rub it in really good about 20 minutes before your workout, then put on 2 pairs of heavy sweats and sit next to a heater. This will draw protective fluid into your joints and you do not waste energy on warm ups.
@joeyyy7 I have very short/tight achilles tendons. So when I squat it is really hard and feels uncoordinated. Seems like most of the stress is going onto the front portion of my legs. You are lucky, looks like you go up and down really easily.
I've been squatting for 3 yrs now and just like yourself my knees pop. You look like you are squatting correctly but when you look closely you can see your knees go over your toes, I believe thats why our knees pop as well. I know some ppl have asked if thats a problem, but don't you think if our knees are popping that perhaps its an injury waiting to happen yrs down the road?
@TakeYoSoulViaIntrnet Not necessarily. I have never had anything remotely close to a knee injury with the full squat. Having said that though, I progressed slowly and gradually. I look to many of the great of Oly lifting for guidance. Check out readings from Tommy Kono; specially about how the knee tracks over (and past) the toes. {google "tommy kono and olympic squats"}
@KoskN123 Goblet squats and greasing the grove in the low position without any weights throughout the day. Don't rush this process. If you stay consistent, progress will come 100%.
@joeyyy7 Okey thanks will do that! Im strong in my legs but im like afraid of the squat since I dont got the entire movement without my heels leaving the ground. Take the 45degree legpress for example im atm doing 7reps at 405KG (893lb) but at the squat im only doing 80kg 5 reps(176lb) ? Sup with that?:P. Thanks for the tip mate and great videos =)
Is it okay if i stop going down when I reach 90 degrees? or does one have to go all the way down? By the way, Semper Fi!!! Mad respect for the US marines :D
@ethankang94 There are many different types of squats. The one you are talking about are parallel squats. It's all about preference. I can't say one is better than the other. If you google Parallel squats vs Full squats, there will be tons of hits debating for one side or the other. I personally like squatting deep with full range of motion. It just feels natural and good. I don't do half pull ups or half push ups...why do half squats?....Semper Fi brother!
Question about your hamstring flexibility. Does your leg go over 90 degrees up if you are laying on your back and the other leg is lieing on the floor relaxed?
I cannot even get to parallel yet without butt wink in squat.
i have that same sound in my shoulder cuse i went to far on my bench (to my chest) you only want to go parallel with your arms and the same with squats ur thighs parallel with the ground that is y u get those sounds in ur knee cuse u have to much pressure from going to deep and sooner or later there going to give out...your knees should never go out past your toes....like ur going to sit on the toilet and take a shit
u should almost fall over thats y i always use a smith machine. be safe
@joeyyy7 you have mad leg strength if i counted right the plates and a strong body if you can do it with that bodyweight, but your form although a legit atg is not 100% cause as it seems to me it puts stress on your knees... get 4 inches higher and correct the knees paralel to feet and then you will be even better, cause you will never be injoured ;) btw, what's your vertical? with an impressive squat like that you should fly props to you
@all who ask about butt wink and back: to go deep without flexing the back you must have flexible hamstrings. If your hamstrings are stiff they will pull the hip inwards as you go down. Stretch your hams and hip flexors diligently for a few weeks before and after squatting, also work on just sitting real deep in the bottom position without bar just to stretch. Sooner than you think, youll be able to go deep without butt wink and flexed back.
@joeyyy7 If you're tall, let's say 6'5 or 6'7 and can't go deep. Should you focus more on hip exercises for more flexibility, or what? Your thoughts. I have a video on my pag showing you my squat. I want to go deep enough to hit the ass.
@heroinjapan I'm a newbie, but it seems to me that he doesn't keep the back hyperxtend, or to say with other words, that he relaxes the lower back. Is this right?
@tempac91 Gradual progression with lighter weights. I also like to hold the deep squat position without weights and try to push out my knees. You would be surprise the results you can achieve with consistency. Happy training.
"It was obvious" never worked for me during anatomy class=D.
About the injuries: I'm not sure. To be honest, I know no (oly-)weightlifter at all that has problems with their knees, only some with hip/lower-back complaints. But they are like 60, so that's just aging.
Why don't you think that the comparison that I made for examplary issues is false btw? I mean, the fact that something has a sesamoid bone doesn't mean the condyle can get damage within ROM?
Secondly, the biggest danger is a ligamental tear, of 1 of the 4 ligaments of the knee keeping your legs together ( the ACL, PCL, MCL, LCL). These work at full flexion/extention. That's where they are strong. So in the middle (=parallel squat) they are weakest, and that's where the biggest danger of knee-injury is!
I'm not an expert, but I think going deeper might even be more beneficial to your knee because it takes some pressure off that has been gathered at the parallel point @ligaments.
I might be a beginner to weight lifting, but I'm farmiliar with anatomy. First of all, condyles have nothing to do with any possible knee-injury. The round part of the bone (= condyle) rarely gets damaged due sports. What you are talking about is serious trauma, not a sport-injury. I honestly can't see it happen. The comparison would be the elbow condyles breaking in pieces due bench pressing...
@Gardash111 Im a sports med nurse/paramedic. Been powerlifting for over ten yrs. You can get OCD from a deep sq. Key is bearing weight behind the knee at bottom and less forward of the knee. Chondromalacia of the patella is the biggest risk from ATG squats, however. But it does strengthen the knee to higher degree, but with added stress none the less.
When doing Olympic squats, my knees tend to hurt after the workout, I'm a beginner - just been doing weightlifting for weeks now to support my boxing. Still getting comfy with the deep olympic squat - I'm just @50kg olympic squatting weight right now.
Is the pain in my knees due to lack of proper form, or..?
To what should I pay particular attention when performing an olympic squat?
Wow! This is about the weight I go parallel with. I personally wouldn't go beyond parallel (with weights), but maybe that's just my phobia. Your legs are awesome, keep it up!
@raffertysteven There is no risk to collateral ligaments. Medial and lateral collateral ligaments cannot possibly be damaged in this type of motion. Maximal depth allows for optimal gluteus maximum recruitment. Furthermore, it further diminishes involvement of quadriceps femoris until lock out. This is key to strong squat form.
The fact that you don't know ROM stands for range of motion tells me all I need to know about your knowledge. Keep your amateurish and foolish comments to yourself.
Nice form and silkies, YUT!!! Any reason you do them outside the rack? I've saved myself on a couple occasions with the safety bars in the rack. I set them so I can still easily squat below parallel, but if I miss a rep (which is gonna happen from time to time, if you're progressing!) I just fall forward and they catch the bar, no prob.
Also no reason to walk so far backward with the bar, bad things can happen there.
@hibob841 Thanks for the comment. I enjoy squatting outside the rack because I don't like the feeling of being in a "box". I know that sounds weird but I feel a sense of freedom from squatting in the open. The weights I have are bumper plates and I am squatting on a horse stall mat. I dump the bar right on the ground without any problems. I also don't squat too heavy any more and focus more on movement. Happy training Hibob!
Perfect Form and Heavy weight!! Very impressive Strength, Especially for your bodyweight!!!
TheCorvette2001 1 day ago
ouch, the hodge twins would call those knee snaps. nice ROM, most effective way to do squats.
kevange8 1 week ago
Hi, my knees travel inwards when i squat and i have been informed that this is due to weak inner thighs. Can you recommend an exercise that doesn't incorporate a machine to strengthen these muscles because i exercise in my garage. Thanks
BDFPA 1 week ago
@BDFPA
Focus on actively pushing your knees out during the lift. Let them track with your toes.
dicksoak 1 week ago
Did he knee snaped at 0:18 :? :S
TheMirolx 1 week ago
@TheMirolx Probably. LOL! My knees snap, crackle, and pop. Fortunately, there is no pain associated with the sounds.
joeyyy7 1 week ago
@joeyyy7 hehe ;) i kwon but that means than is probably to much presion your knees shoud not pass your toes, i´m a fitness instrutor :),if you knees shoudn´t pass your toes :)
TheMirolx 1 week ago
@joeyyy7 what is your vertical leap? and can you dunk.. does squatting help your vertical
Ivelix1 1 week ago
@joeyyy7 yea same here. My knees never crack during squats but it can be anytime during the day and it would randomly snap, crackle, and pop...mostly morning and nights going up n down stairs.
xxdarkheartsxx 16 hours ago
Impressive form! Any flexing advice for someone starting out??
JonnyKozoom 1 week ago
@JonnyKozoom Use gradual progressive, focusing on the deep, low position. Concentrate on pushing the knees out while keeping your heels planted. Also, sit between the legs which is a different movement from the powerlifting type squat. Don't be too quick in adding weight. Happy training!
joeyyy7 1 week ago 2
Good squat man. Like the form.
izmael44 1 week ago
Nice Squat. Great form...I have snap, crackle, and pop knees too...
Zipemova1 2 weeks ago
good form
RidleyE 2 weeks ago
Definitely ATG. May want to try different footing positions if the knee popping continues, or get some Adidas.
LexingtonLanePlummer 2 weeks ago
did you only tan the upperbody? ;) Nice squat
janolav89 2 weeks ago 7
@janolav89 LOL! Thanks!
joeyyy7 2 weeks ago
crazy dorsi flexion goin on there!
fabriceg7 3 weeks ago
Joey, great squats, good depth, and good weight but I had to cringe and the noise from your knees ;-) a bit like the "nails on the black board" sound for me LOL
mikesbbody 3 weeks ago
great, best A2G i've seen in youtube... i was doing two mistakes in the beginning, coming down fast, and pushing my knees forward.. (i was wondering why my knees hurt.. ) i corrected the problem by pulling out my butt when coming down.
juan1974mendez 3 weeks ago
what is that clicking noise at the bottom of your squat?
kyle9003 4 weeks ago
@kyle9003 Air, poppin from my knees sir...
joeyyy7 4 weeks ago
@joeyyy7 yikes - that sounds come before or after you started doing a2g squats?
eightballer41 2 weeks ago
@eightballer41 My motivated dog, barking.
joeyyy7 2 weeks ago
think you need to bring your butt back abit more, other than that good lift!
anhisking 1 month ago
Nice lift, weight?
dlcLFC5 1 month ago
i think asians squat naturally all the time but here the western dumb civilization is sitting instead of squatting.maybe wrong though
kwstas67 2 months ago
how do u squat so perfect with flat soled shoes?how can i do it?
kwstas67 2 months ago
@kwstas67 You need good ankle flexibility, and loose calves. For example I used to need to turn my feet out almost 45 degrees because I had crap ankle flexibility. With Oly shoes I can squat normalish (20 deg out or so)
Get some oly shoes they'll cure it pretty fast. Meantime of course stretch your calves and toe flexors.
BentropySS 2 months ago
I'm pretty sure that if you had grass in your garage, your ass would touch it while squatting.
villehalo 3 months ago
ai sim em!! EXTRA AGACHAMENTO!!!! PERFECT!!!!!
rodasabrao 3 months ago
This, is probably the best form I've seen on a squat on youtube. The knees come forward but the weight is on the heels and you're sitting back. I hit slightly below parallel (2-3 inches below. Probably around 1/3 your depth below parallel). Beyond that, my back will begin to turn slightly convex if I go that low. Is this just a gradual progression to this depth, or are there specific hip and/or hamstring stretches to do to improve this flexibility so I can get deeper? Thanks.
speshalsauz 3 months ago
nice form
Lenol03 3 months ago
Looks like very good form!
daBOODA 3 months ago 2
To whoever said he isn't wearing wearing weight lifting shoes. chuck taylors are the best for weigtlifting.
amilli8692 3 months ago
@amilli8692 they are the best of the lowbar squat and deadlift but you need oly shoes for high bar squats
rogue8853 3 months ago
@rogue8853 Clearly, he doesn't.
jakesmix 3 months ago
Good form, controlled cadence. Good job.
americahealth 3 months ago 2
how much is that?
iKrackeD 3 months ago
Awesome job. Looks very fluid and you look comfortable doing it which usually means you are doing it right! :) thumbs up bro!
TheSerenitynick 3 months ago 2
Sweet shorts bro.
brianwatts04 3 months ago 4
@brianwatts04 LOL! Thanks Brian.
joeyyy7 3 months ago
Wow! He is full-squatting without wearing weightlifting shoes. It is really amazing.
TailorBell 3 months ago
knees clicking ?
MrMbogza 3 months ago
now thats a leg workout!!!!!!
not the gay ass exercises crossfitters do
ISRAELKING100 3 months ago
I've heard that you can injure your knees by letting your knees track over your toes like your showing here or shown by any olympic lifter?
Also I was wondering what stretching you have to do to allow for this depth of squat whilst keeping your back vertical? I think my Ichiles tendon is too tight?
Please reply asap as I'm currently recovering from a back strain and have just restarted training so wanted to perfect my technique while I'm working with little to no weight, and work up. Thanks.
eegz88 4 months ago
@eegz88 I personally don't have (or ever had) knee problems. I have been squatting deep, Tommy Kono style, for a long time. However, my depth came through gradual progression. This is something that happened over years, and not right away. Do a google search about "Olympic Squats by Tommy Kono" and read anything by Dan John. Sit ass to grass throughout the day let your mind and body get use to the low position. Focus on keeping your heels on the ground and sitting "in between" your legs.
joeyyy7 4 months ago 9
@joeyyy7 dude I know you say you have not had any knee problems but the sounds coming out of your knees as you squat say otherwise. I'm not a pro squater so I cant say for sure but I think your knees are moving too far forward as you squat (they will natually move a bit forward as you squat but I think you should keep them from moving past your toes), look up Ivan Chakarov for good example on what I'm talking about.. please take care of your knees or they wont be pain free forever! :D
thelifeuwant 4 months ago
@joeyyy7 he wasnt talking about you going atg he was talking about your knees tracking over your toes. theres a difference
zerordieb87 3 months ago
@joeyyy7 One thing I have never understood is why weightlifters rigidly stick to Olympic high bar squat instead of a low bar squat. Since the back squat is an overall strengthening tool and not a specific one (like front squats) surely it makes sense to use maximum poundage which the low back squat allows ?
MrMorry27 3 months ago
@MrMorry27 I do both type of squats. I just enjoy squatting in general. And you are correct, my poundage is a lot higher in the low bar squat. However, I don't have any hard goals outside of enjoyment from exercise and long term health. Train hard brother!
joeyyy7 1 month ago
@eegz88 the knees past the toes thing is a myth. there studies about it if you really wanna research iit. and front squats are an easier way to keep your back straight .
inhiswords 4 months ago
@eegz88 Most of oly lifters knee problems come from rebounding out of squat cleans and snatches. The easy way to hurt your knees, however, is to not force the knees out throughout the hole motion.
420Vali 3 months ago
@eegz88 You get knee injuries when you keep your toes pointed forward. You want your toes out at around a 30 degree angle and then your knees track your toes.
If you point your toes directly forward, you're setting yourself up to tear your ACL.
guitayrplaya 3 months ago
@eegz88 i heard if you dont squat you start turning into a vagina
zabbestpriest 1 month ago
@zabbestpriest id say thats about right lol
purringwalrus 3 weeks ago
This is a question that forms off of slider2699 question. If you dont like using the squat rack and you dont have a spotter then if you cant get the weight up then what do you do?
nextwarrensapp 4 months ago
@nextwarrensapp I dump the weight backwards onto the mat. The weights I am using are Olympic Bumper Plates and are designed to be dropped.
joeyyy7 4 months ago
wow much respect
suparpowers 4 months ago
You are crazy strong. Great form. I have to ask, though----why have a cage if you're not going to squat in it?
slider2699 4 months ago
@slider2699 Thanks Slider. I enjoy squatting outside the rack because I don't like the feeling of being in a "box". I know that sounds weird but I feel a sense of freedom from squatting in the open. The weights I have are bumper plates and I am squatting on a horse stall mat. I dump the bar right on the ground without any problems.
joeyyy7 4 months ago
@joeyyy7
im the same i feel better squating out of a rack
geachy86 4 months ago
HOW MUCH DID YOU JUST SQUAT BRO???
o5012 4 months ago
@o5012 Bumper plates friend. 225 lbs.
joeyyy7 4 months ago
I'm finding it bloody impossible to do these without leaning too far forward in the bottom. How do I keep my back more upright in the squat? Thanks
CelticAndProud 4 months ago
@CelticAndProud if your hamstrings are already flexible enough, then the only other way is to grow a longer torso and shorter legs.
aquilonian 4 months ago
@CelticAndProud Getting weightlifting shoes (elevated heal) is the only way. Depending on how you're proportioned, the geometries of your body make it impossible without lifting shoes.
This guy has the best form without using lifting shoes of anyone I've ever seen.
LayEmOut60 4 months ago
i love the lil head nod every rep
inktoxicated 4 months ago
I can hear your knee(s) pop. Rock on.
creamysmooth 4 months ago
I love the form man, for such weight! Very well done!
IncredibleHulkRobert 4 months ago
respect
javah123 4 months ago 2
i feel like those are bad for your knees but damn good squats
alan48085 4 months ago
Nice squats.
chimproller 4 months ago
thats the way to do it!
TheTyler456123 4 months ago
thx for your answer! i am 6'2". is it still possible for me to do olympic squats or am i to tall? are there any tall lifter youtube? :)
adkzMitch 4 months ago
@adkzMitch
Yea, you can do it.
Dirtylickins2 4 months ago
@adkzMitch bro im 6'1 and used to have the same trouble, i play rugby and what helped me was watching all blacks training videos on here, they have some huge guys lifting uge weights and still deep squating
johnnyHM17 4 months ago
my squats are just hack my hips just align with my knees then i lift. My hip flexors aren't that flexible to go that low but you inspired me enough to start over with just the 45lb olympic bar and work my way up 5lbs at a time doing the stop squat.
what iI dont know is what is a goblet squat?
alopez527 4 months ago
Is that your knee clicking????
xmoopzx 4 months ago
Me jelly of your ankle flexibility
jammyo40 4 months ago
hey joeyyy7
how tall are you? what exercises did you do to get this flexible in hips, hamstrings and ankles?
best regards!
adkzMitch 4 months ago
@adkzMitch I'm 5'8". I worked the full squat without weight and gradually added weight, never compromising form. I also used "Goblet Squats" to help with the low position. Additionally, when I was able to squat with weight, I would do "stop squats" and pause for one second in the absolute bottom position. The stop squats helped me tremendously both physically and mentally. It really help me make the mind / body connection of the deep position.
joeyyy7 4 months ago
@joeyyy7 Nice job................erm, is that your knees I heard clicking???
tickyul 4 months ago
@tickyul Yes sir. That would be my knee.
joeyyy7 4 months ago
@joeyyy7 I would recommend getting those creaky knees HOT before lifting that much. Get that Tigerbalm Linament (liquid), that stuff is the best. Rub it in really good about 20 minutes before your workout, then put on 2 pairs of heavy sweats and sit next to a heater. This will draw protective fluid into your joints and you do not waste energy on warm ups.
tickyul 4 months ago
@tickyul Thanks. I have no pain associated with my knees but I am all about preventive maintenance.
joeyyy7 4 months ago 2
@joeyyy7 I have very short/tight achilles tendons. So when I squat it is really hard and feels uncoordinated. Seems like most of the stress is going onto the front portion of my legs. You are lucky, looks like you go up and down really easily.
tickyul 1 week ago
lol i know those fucking skivvies anywhere...
wudthedamaja 5 months ago
@wudthedamaja Semper Fi!
joeyyy7 5 months ago
I've been squatting for 3 yrs now and just like yourself my knees pop. You look like you are squatting correctly but when you look closely you can see your knees go over your toes, I believe thats why our knees pop as well. I know some ppl have asked if thats a problem, but don't you think if our knees are popping that perhaps its an injury waiting to happen yrs down the road?
TakeYoSoulViaIntrnet 5 months ago
@TakeYoSoulViaIntrnet Not necessarily. I have never had anything remotely close to a knee injury with the full squat. Having said that though, I progressed slowly and gradually. I look to many of the great of Oly lifting for guidance. Check out readings from Tommy Kono; specially about how the knee tracks over (and past) the toes. {google "tommy kono and olympic squats"}
joeyyy7 5 months ago
Hi got any tip on "mobility" I cant get that deep when im doing a fullsquat :/.
KoskN123 5 months ago
@KoskN123 Goblet squats and greasing the grove in the low position without any weights throughout the day. Don't rush this process. If you stay consistent, progress will come 100%.
joeyyy7 5 months ago
@joeyyy7 Okey thanks will do that! Im strong in my legs but im like afraid of the squat since I dont got the entire movement without my heels leaving the ground. Take the 45degree legpress for example im atm doing 7reps at 405KG (893lb) but at the squat im only doing 80kg 5 reps(176lb) ? Sup with that?:P. Thanks for the tip mate and great videos =)
KoskN123 5 months ago
Is it okay if i stop going down when I reach 90 degrees? or does one have to go all the way down? By the way, Semper Fi!!! Mad respect for the US marines :D
ethankang94 5 months ago
@ethankang94 There are many different types of squats. The one you are talking about are parallel squats. It's all about preference. I can't say one is better than the other. If you google Parallel squats vs Full squats, there will be tons of hits debating for one side or the other. I personally like squatting deep with full range of motion. It just feels natural and good. I don't do half pull ups or half push ups...why do half squats?....Semper Fi brother!
joeyyy7 5 months ago
Semper Fidelis.
YuNgMuN04 5 months ago
@YuNgMuN04 Semper Fi brother!
joeyyy7 5 months ago
my knees snap and pop like that too when i squat that deep should i be concerned?
dodomyte24 5 months ago
@dodomyte24 Only if it hurts you. I have been squatting deep and injury free for years.
joeyyy7 5 months ago
Question about your hamstring flexibility. Does your leg go over 90 degrees up if you are laying on your back and the other leg is lieing on the floor relaxed?
I cannot even get to parallel yet without butt wink in squat.
h8red1 5 months ago
@h8red1 Hamstrings dont affect butt wink that much because you are bending at the knee. The main causes are glutes,abductors and hip flexors
JordanSpecops123 5 months ago
your knee cracking scares the shit out of me bro.
my left knee cracks (no pain) when i go a little past 90 and it still scares me.
even if it doesnt hurt it makes me feel like something is wrong
CMFGAO 5 months ago
i have that same sound in my shoulder cuse i went to far on my bench (to my chest) you only want to go parallel with your arms and the same with squats ur thighs parallel with the ground that is y u get those sounds in ur knee cuse u have to much pressure from going to deep and sooner or later there going to give out...your knees should never go out past your toes....like ur going to sit on the toilet and take a shit
u should almost fall over thats y i always use a smith machine. be safe
audiomandk79 6 months ago
Now that is a nice squat man *interweb bro fist*
acidee100 6 months ago
Hey Bro!
Can u do a video, how to work on ankle flexibilty? maybe on hip flexibilty, too :)
For example what exercises u do, to get this flexible.
That would be great!
Thx in advance!!!
adkzMitch 6 months ago
how much KGs on dumbell?
comamiw 6 months ago
great form but does you knee crack everytime you go down. i hear some sound that makes me gag.
dgwear69 6 months ago 7
@dgwear69 Yep. That sound is my old knees. No pain though...sound only...LOL! Happy training dgwear!
joeyyy7 6 months ago
@joeyyy7 you have mad leg strength if i counted right the plates and a strong body if you can do it with that bodyweight, but your form although a legit atg is not 100% cause as it seems to me it puts stress on your knees... get 4 inches higher and correct the knees paralel to feet and then you will be even better, cause you will never be injoured ;) btw, what's your vertical? with an impressive squat like that you should fly props to you
alejandrothefader 5 months ago
@dgwear69 it makes you gag? LOL squeamish much bro?
Obsidian1392 3 months ago
@dgwear69 i dont think its serious its like when you have to crack your fingers its not strain or anything
pureefficient 3 months ago
I hope that cracking isn't your knees...... other than that, DAM YOU STRONG
cleve101 6 months ago
I can't get that low! Can't get my legs past parallel with the floor without toppling over! :(
RustyR 6 months ago
Ouch, I hear the sound of your legs cracking. Impressive lift though.
jamesluc256 6 months ago
Nice!
TheMightyClaybear 6 months ago
Amazing.
@all who ask about butt wink and back: to go deep without flexing the back you must have flexible hamstrings. If your hamstrings are stiff they will pull the hip inwards as you go down. Stretch your hams and hip flexors diligently for a few weeks before and after squatting, also work on just sitting real deep in the bottom position without bar just to stretch. Sooner than you think, youll be able to go deep without butt wink and flexed back.
heroinjapan 7 months ago 12
@heroinjapan Excellent training advice!
joeyyy7 7 months ago
@joeyyy7 If you're tall, let's say 6'5 or 6'7 and can't go deep. Should you focus more on hip exercises for more flexibility, or what? Your thoughts. I have a video on my pag showing you my squat. I want to go deep enough to hit the ass.
dinamiaesthetics 6 months ago
@heroinjapan I'm a newbie, but it seems to me that he doesn't keep the back hyperxtend, or to say with other words, that he relaxes the lower back. Is this right?
metellone 3 months ago
nice squats you must have great flexability i could go low but i get to a point where my back creeps forward
gocrazy1995 7 months ago
Did he fart really loud before he did his first rep?
spyu 7 months ago
@spyu LOL! It's my dog barking at me....
joeyyy7 7 months ago
@joeyyy7 Oh hahahaha. The timing was perfect. Honestly I thought it was some kind of timer or something.
spyu 7 months ago
Nice.
WickedWillie45 7 months ago
@WickedWillie45 Thanks Willie!
joeyyy7 7 months ago
Hey any advice on how to get rid of butt wink when squatting?Thanks in advance:)
arsenic222 7 months ago
solid form
jp1111 7 months ago
love squatting like this but its hard on my knees
gocrazy1995 7 months ago
Your form is textbook. Well done!
MaduroNYC 7 months ago
@MaduroNYC Thank you! Happy training...and take it to the basement!
joeyyy7 7 months ago
@MaduroNYC Thanks! Check the ego and pay attention to form and movement.
joeyyy7 7 months ago
Good fucking lift.
itscowski 7 months ago
@itscowski Thanks!
joeyyy7 7 months ago
And there are still dipshits out there telling us we'll kill ourselves by going deep.
chiconspiracy 8 months ago
How did you achieve such flexibility? My lower back always rounds at the bottom and I wear proper weightlifting shoes with 1.5" heels.
tempac91 8 months ago
@tempac91 Gradual progression with lighter weights. I also like to hold the deep squat position without weights and try to push out my knees. You would be surprise the results you can achieve with consistency. Happy training.
joeyyy7 8 months ago
@joeyyy7 How long did it take you?
tempac91 8 months ago
@tempac91 about 6 months
joeyyy7 8 months ago
more deep = more satisfaction!
300MUSIC 8 months ago 2
@300MUSIC I agree with Music!
joeyyy7 8 months ago
@joeyyy7 dude, your knee cracking is so loud, i could hear it from the earphones on my desk and im not wearing them lol.
300MUSIC 8 months ago 4
@300MUSIC Trust me, it sounds a lot louder to me...LOL!
joeyyy7 8 months ago
@raffertysteven
"It was obvious" never worked for me during anatomy class=D.
About the injuries: I'm not sure. To be honest, I know no (oly-)weightlifter at all that has problems with their knees, only some with hip/lower-back complaints. But they are like 60, so that's just aging.
Why don't you think that the comparison that I made for examplary issues is false btw? I mean, the fact that something has a sesamoid bone doesn't mean the condyle can get damage within ROM?
Gardash111 9 months ago
@TurKdiRty
no
kunjumaster 9 months ago
That's really nice squats right there! Impressive :)
Grundberg 9 months ago
@Grundberg Thank you, sir.
joeyyy7 8 months ago
Good squat! I did some today morning too!
valgez1 9 months ago
BEAST
Alive4Metal 9 months ago
@Alive4Metal Hardly, but thank you.
joeyyy7 8 months ago
Secondly, the biggest danger is a ligamental tear, of 1 of the 4 ligaments of the knee keeping your legs together ( the ACL, PCL, MCL, LCL). These work at full flexion/extention. That's where they are strong. So in the middle (=parallel squat) they are weakest, and that's where the biggest danger of knee-injury is!
I'm not an expert, but I think going deeper might even be more beneficial to your knee because it takes some pressure off that has been gathered at the parallel point @ligaments.
Gardash111 9 months ago
@Gardash111 Correct.
l3000c 9 months ago
@raffertysteven
I might be a beginner to weight lifting, but I'm farmiliar with anatomy. First of all, condyles have nothing to do with any possible knee-injury. The round part of the bone (= condyle) rarely gets damaged due sports. What you are talking about is serious trauma, not a sport-injury. I honestly can't see it happen. The comparison would be the elbow condyles breaking in pieces due bench pressing...
Gardash111 9 months ago
@Gardash111 Im a sports med nurse/paramedic. Been powerlifting for over ten yrs. You can get OCD from a deep sq. Key is bearing weight behind the knee at bottom and less forward of the knee. Chondromalacia of the patella is the biggest risk from ATG squats, however. But it does strengthen the knee to higher degree, but with added stress none the less.
YuNgMuN04 5 months ago
When doing Olympic squats, my knees tend to hurt after the workout, I'm a beginner - just been doing weightlifting for weeks now to support my boxing. Still getting comfy with the deep olympic squat - I'm just @50kg olympic squatting weight right now.
Is the pain in my knees due to lack of proper form, or..?
To what should I pay particular attention when performing an olympic squat?
Gardash111 9 months ago
if you elevate your heels it will help protect your knees
msfattytrollbitch 10 months ago
very good form indeed. those weights look huge almost looks like your squating 300 kg there :).
bartosx 10 months ago
good form bro.
Miloshcheah 10 months ago
Strong
Bruce777999 10 months ago
I always get a wedgie when I do squats.
pepperdew72 10 months ago
Guy i can hear your knee joints clicking...
gankzorzz 10 months ago 14
@gankzorzz Yup, those are my knees alright...
joeyyy7 10 months ago
Wow! This is about the weight I go parallel with. I personally wouldn't go beyond parallel (with weights), but maybe that's just my phobia. Your legs are awesome, keep it up!
elendiel 10 months ago
@elendiel Thanks!
joeyyy7 10 months ago
@elendiel go below parralell its hard , engages more muscle, and is better for your knees
matt517472 9 months ago 2
@elendiel yes thats your phobia. Nothing wrong with going below parallel
MerkabaStar 9 months ago
@raffertysteven There is no risk to collateral ligaments. Medial and lateral collateral ligaments cannot possibly be damaged in this type of motion. Maximal depth allows for optimal gluteus maximum recruitment. Furthermore, it further diminishes involvement of quadriceps femoris until lock out. This is key to strong squat form.
The fact that you don't know ROM stands for range of motion tells me all I need to know about your knowledge. Keep your amateurish and foolish comments to yourself.
niroopg 10 months ago
@raffertysteven No. Increased ROM, increased TUT, increased glute recruitment.
niroopg 10 months ago
Was that your knee clicking?
Joobs0917 11 months ago
Nice form and silkies, YUT!!! Any reason you do them outside the rack? I've saved myself on a couple occasions with the safety bars in the rack. I set them so I can still easily squat below parallel, but if I miss a rep (which is gonna happen from time to time, if you're progressing!) I just fall forward and they catch the bar, no prob.
Also no reason to walk so far backward with the bar, bad things can happen there.
hibob841 11 months ago
@hibob841 Thanks for the comment. I enjoy squatting outside the rack because I don't like the feeling of being in a "box". I know that sounds weird but I feel a sense of freedom from squatting in the open. The weights I have are bumper plates and I am squatting on a horse stall mat. I dump the bar right on the ground without any problems. I also don't squat too heavy any more and focus more on movement. Happy training Hibob!
joeyyy7 11 months ago