Whats with cummins and easy start? All the high milers i see need it on a cold start! I like the 14 L though it's a proper motor. I have a RR 265L in my B series, she runs a treat just waiting for the injector sleevs to leak. ha ha
The 14 L Cummins has a pretty good name where I live, the new Cummins Signatures and ISX don't have such a good reputation, they were a disaster when they first came out. The Cummins 903 V8 had a good name as well but they were noisy.
all you drivers who like this pile of crap must like driving morris marinas/allegros and that type of crap,personally i have been an hgv driver for over 40years and would not want to even get in let alone drive a pile of crap of that era
@TheSlapdown ...i was refering to the age of this pile of crap ,not the sea worthyness of it...i suggest you read comments more closely ...you plonker!!
@tonyhgv LOL, okay. Doesn't mean it's a pile of crap though. I suppose if this old war horse goes back to fight it'll be destroyed by a nuclear submarine nowadays! Of course, that's if the submariners haven't all shot each other before hand!
I dont get it you lot are all off your nut i drove an fh460 for two years and it never let me down same with the daf scania and even renault always got me home no probs on the other hand anytime i have broken down its been MAN ERF MERC or IVECO i dont really care how fast it goes up a hill the longer it takes the more i earn long as its comfy and gets me home .
and another thing is he said erf c series shows how much he fucking knows its a b series i am class 1 and can tell ya wat i have driven daf cf xf volvo fh12 and ivecos now my iveco twin bunk top notch but that went and i got the spare wagon in the yard a old ec11 with a cummins in before they started interbreeding with man and boy could that old cummins pull ,i would love too give the new generation a rope and sheet you would all be fucked
HAHAHA whos the joker bostin hes got a DAF now there a piece of shit its like foden 4405 said its all curtains an fridges with people now adays. ya im only 22 got my licence at 18 on young drivers the first artic a got was a ERF EC127 loved it got offered a DAF xf510 u can shove it like see that dutch pile of crap touch the 127 up hills.
omg is this still on here its a plastic daycab twin steer all you so called super drivers should jump in her and take it up the a9 in the snow see how far you get then marvel at the comfort of your plastic cab as you sit there freezing your nuts off the gaffers must love suckers like you lot .
god is this pile of crap still on here,get rid of it whilst scrap metal is still a good price!!!if it was an horse a vet would shoot it and put it out of its misery....
ha ha ha i drive a wee daf cf now it has a clutch and the gearbox is fine it has a good night heater heated mirrors seats cd player and is sweet as a nut plenty of leg room the seat goes way back the bunk is comfy and if you took it off me and gave me that heap of shite i would hang myself nuff said
Well for my money the three series scania was the best truck ever made but each to his own and i can drive twin splitters fuller and spicer boxes i just think they are crap and an excuse for some so called amazing drivers to brag about when most of them couldnt change there pants give me a scania volvo or daf anyday the rest ie man erf iveco seddon bedford are all junk although i did drive a renault premium for a while and developed a bit of a soft spot for it
before limiters came in and you could get them off the clock, no-one was complaining then. well unless they missed a gear with a twin splitter up a hill
Obviously you are a " duff driver " if you can't appreciate just how good the ERF C-series was, out handle any foreign junk on twisty A roads any day, I suspect you were not bright enough to do tricks like changing gear without the clutch and have to put up with your arm hanging off changing a syncro box. ERF's were always the first choice wagons for true craftsment at the art of HGV driving.
Umm, ME. I,d give my left bollock to get behind the wheel of a proper lorry again. My current steed is shite (FH480). My 9yo daughter can drive it ( infact she has around the yard) Driving a modern truck you are no more than a steering wheel attendant. Too many firms now are all flash & no cash. I,d drive a real old truck & have the savings on R&M contracts passed onto me thanx :) Any hauliers in the SE or Benelux PM me if you can offer that lol.
The garge i work at has a 1998 ec11 with no limiter. Goes well love shunting trailers around our yard with it, especally as im not old enough to drive (16)
14 litre Cummins were OK just so long as you were not paying the fuel and oil bill, before the " Big Cam " engines came along you were lucky to get 4 Mpg. Wear an tear on the PT fuel injection system also meant that they soon lost performance. They felt like they were doing better than they actually were because of the excess noise.
If used to their full potential Gardner engines would " blow up " quite regularly, especially before they removed the screwdriver slot in the exhaust valve. Likewise picking up pistons, fractured crankcases. However hard you thrashed them the RR eagle would give you 500 K km after they introduced the composite pistons. 14 litre Cummins engines would run until they were using 3 gallons of oil a day and leaving a smoke screen behind.
I didnt know that about gardners, but I can remember the 14 litre cummins being advertised as "the million mile engine", some of the old school drivers where I work absolutely swear by them
The Rolls Royce Eagle was a terrible engine in the sence that every driver would trash seven shades of sh*t out of them as the were fast! Atleast with a Gardner or Cummins they lasted! Not the best performer but who wanted speed out a truck? Reliability was the key..
reading about cummins engines reminded me of when i was a drivers mate for the BRS in n/london in the 60s i was only a squirt then lol..we had GUYS with the V8 CUMMINS engines good engines but hell were they noisey. when i got home of a night and talked to my mum she use to tell me to stop shouting!..lol
@tonyhgv I remember those V8 Cummins when I lived in Poplar E. London in the '60s and you're right they made a helluva racket. They were the first V8 I ever heard and I reckon they put me on the path to truckerhood lol.
@gm16v149 ..hiya Chris..the good ole days eh!! PML..the.60S greatest ever music era,no traffic jams,no speed limit on M1,horny women,crap trucks LOL ,,my old mk2 ford zephyr (6 cylinder) could pull better than most trucks of that time.......your ok in OZ..no cameras,no parking fines,no vosa asking stupid questions,no CPC from the EU ..etc etc...you got any jobs for me out therein OZ, lol...tony...PS..we still have horny women,but at my age your mind makes appointments your body cant keep!!!PML
@tonyhgv Before I left for oz in 1970 the new Volvo F88 they called a "juggernaught", Scania-Vabis had just come out, and all the trucks were British, ERF, Scammel, Leyland, Foden etc etc. No sleepers, long distance guys slept overnight in a bed at boarding houses for truck drivers. P.S. My wheels at the time were Triumph T100A, Norton 650SS and 650 Triton in that order.
sorry lads l` ve been driving hgv for longer than i want to admit.and although the brit trucks all had great engines..the cabs (mostly erf and leyland) were a nightmare with window frames running down where the mirrors are and seats that hardly go back etc etc it seems that they did nt give a f##k about the driver when it came to cab design..i for one like the mans and volvos etc if only for the cab design at least you can get a good night out in them..
i agree cos half the people on here mate never had to have a night out in them i used to go with my dad when he used to drive for brs western out of north clive st in cardiff he had a scammell crusader it was fucking freezing having a night out in most of the old brit trucks cos of poor build quality im a driver my self now long distance ive got a fh12 460 gobstopper and ithink we all tend to look back at the past with rose tinted spectacles
Any driver worth his salt could drive a constant mesh box ( David Brown of Fuller ) without ever touching the clutch apart from setting off and stopping.
The old LV and A series ERF's were great and easy to drive, the B & C series scored because the cabs didn't fall to bits. The best handling ERF's were the B series sleeper cabs ( long wheel-base fitted with an extra sping leaf ) C series were ok but once the dampers were knackered they were too rough to ride. The multi-leaf B series never suffered from this as long as you steamed the oil from between the spring leaves regularly.
I was brought up with gardner engined ERF's, the 8 cyl 240 Gardner's were useless, you could get more usefull power out of a 6LXB if you knew what you were doing. The Rolls-Royce turbocharged Eagle was the best engine for overall performance litre for litre( again if you tweaked them a bit )
Can't beat the B & C series! The 14 ltr Cummins is a good motor but you can't get better than the 6 & 8cyl Gardner's! They plod on forever! My Dad's firm ran a mix of gardner's and cummings and the only main problems were the usual servicable items. Today I drive and work on trucks myself and they are always breaking down! Old trucks were harder to drive but easy too fix! Modern ones are "too" easy to drive and too hard to fix! Love doubling the clutch and fighting the gears, keeps you awake!
we've got 1 of these as a yard shunter on a c plate needs a can of cough medicine 2 get it going. the last of the c series models were known as cp series (cummins power)they revamped the seats by putting stripes down em n i think that was about the only change made
look at all that smoke on start up, plus it needed a sniff of easy start, plus the air was down because ALL ERFs leak air. Noticed the prestige black MAN in the corner - german technology is the way forward my friend.
U r right but only if u like going back to the dealers every five mins to get gearbox(auto cos boy drivers cant handle twin splitters) and engine remapped cos it wont average more than 7 on general.Then of course we come to the turbocharger which every (PRESTIGE?) motor in this yard has eaten in less than 2 years even though it ran on fully synthetic oil.The future?
Hey come on man! I work for MAN and I know they're piles of scrap, I hate the new standard auto boxes also. I was just commenting about the old ERFs, hey, they must be good trucks - you don't see any 20 year old MANs on the road do you?
Best of it is i loved the old f2000 roadhaus which i drove new on a T plate with the 410 engine,the cab was higher cos it ran TGA cab mounts.Well thought out lots of storage & a manual box.TGA big cab but no storage,too much electronics,backward step.Only good thing the bed is massive.Got on my high horse a bit back there but i love the old stuff best,probably cos u can fix it with a big hammer.
c seris was the last `proper` motor erf made,my dad still runs one on an old y plate. who cares about smoke on start up? in 18 years all its had is a new starter motor...class
Whats with cummins and easy start? All the high milers i see need it on a cold start! I like the 14 L though it's a proper motor. I have a RR 265L in my B series, she runs a treat just waiting for the injector sleevs to leak. ha ha
TheBigChevyGuy 6 months ago
The 14 L Cummins has a pretty good name where I live, the new Cummins Signatures and ISX don't have such a good reputation, they were a disaster when they first came out. The Cummins 903 V8 had a good name as well but they were noisy.
gm16v149 8 months ago
all you drivers who like this pile of crap must like driving morris marinas/allegros and that type of crap,personally i have been an hgv driver for over 40years and would not want to even get in let alone drive a pile of crap of that era
tonyhgv 10 months ago
that pile of crap was lucky it never got torpedoed by a u-boat in WW2
tonyhgv 1 year ago
@tonyhgv U-Boats worked out at sea, hence the word BOAT...You really are a numpty!
TheSlapdown 10 months ago
@TheSlapdown ...i was refering to the age of this pile of crap ,not the sea worthyness of it...i suggest you read comments more closely ...you plonker!!
tonyhgv 10 months ago
@tonyhgv LOL, okay. Doesn't mean it's a pile of crap though. I suppose if this old war horse goes back to fight it'll be destroyed by a nuclear submarine nowadays! Of course, that's if the submariners haven't all shot each other before hand!
TheSlapdown 10 months ago
I dont get it you lot are all off your nut i drove an fh460 for two years and it never let me down same with the daf scania and even renault always got me home no probs on the other hand anytime i have broken down its been MAN ERF MERC or IVECO i dont really care how fast it goes up a hill the longer it takes the more i earn long as its comfy and gets me home .
Graeme380 1 year ago 2
and another thing is he said erf c series shows how much he fucking knows its a b series i am class 1 and can tell ya wat i have driven daf cf xf volvo fh12 and ivecos now my iveco twin bunk top notch but that went and i got the spare wagon in the yard a old ec11 with a cummins in before they started interbreeding with man and boy could that old cummins pull ,i would love too give the new generation a rope and sheet you would all be fucked
MrGuxy 1 year ago
HAHAHA whos the joker bostin hes got a DAF now there a piece of shit its like foden 4405 said its all curtains an fridges with people now adays. ya im only 22 got my licence at 18 on young drivers the first artic a got was a ERF EC127 loved it got offered a DAF xf510 u can shove it like see that dutch pile of crap touch the 127 up hills.
scoulerboy1 1 year ago
omg is this still on here its a plastic daycab twin steer all you so called super drivers should jump in her and take it up the a9 in the snow see how far you get then marvel at the comfort of your plastic cab as you sit there freezing your nuts off the gaffers must love suckers like you lot .
Graeme380 1 year ago
Nice truck used to maintain similar machines back in Africa 14 ltr cant beat it
tabze 1 year ago
aww nice truck, we raced a 4 legger day cab, that had 14 litre cummins with 900hp, we got it after we smashed the 401 sed ak up
britdemo 1 year ago
god is this pile of crap still on here,get rid of it whilst scrap metal is still a good price!!!if it was an horse a vet would shoot it and put it out of its misery....
tonyhgv 1 year ago
yea if you drove an erf you would need to carry a good rope to get towed home .
Graeme380 1 year ago
ha ha ha i drive a wee daf cf now it has a clutch and the gearbox is fine it has a good night heater heated mirrors seats cd player and is sweet as a nut plenty of leg room the seat goes way back the bunk is comfy and if you took it off me and gave me that heap of shite i would hang myself nuff said
Graeme380 1 year ago 2
I got some spare rope, but dont think it would go round your big head.
foden4405 1 year ago 3
@foden4405 Why don`t you fix her up, i bet it wouldn`t cost that much to get her back on the road.
johnzejtun1993 1 year ago
@Graeme380 thats for agency drivers lol
truckerboy93 1 year ago
@Graeme380 I'd hang you you little cockless bellend....
discocreator76 1 year ago
@Graeme380 If they give you an E.R.F ( I hope they do), tell me. I'll send you a rope!
TheSlapdown 10 months ago
just give them twist locks its easy but thay still moan
E14ERF 2 years ago
todays truckers are fucking pussys with there sat navs and automatic gear boxes and easy curtainsiders and they think there the bollocks the wankers
bradfordlad9999 2 years ago 10
Automatic gear boxes? Only dust cart's and buses mate. Today.
eqler 1 year ago
Well for my money the three series scania was the best truck ever made but each to his own and i can drive twin splitters fuller and spicer boxes i just think they are crap and an excuse for some so called amazing drivers to brag about when most of them couldnt change there pants give me a scania volvo or daf anyday the rest ie man erf iveco seddon bedford are all junk although i did drive a renault premium for a while and developed a bit of a soft spot for it
Graeme380 2 years ago
ERF..Emissions Rough Fu~cker
tonyhgv 2 years ago
Edwin Richard Foden
darrowby1972 2 years ago
Tideswell`s would buy it, spend 50 quid on it, coat a paint & tell yer "its done nowt"
5 yrs later sell it for what they give for it,
Thats truckin!
patchmeadow2 2 years ago
before limiters came in and you could get them off the clock, no-one was complaining then. well unless they missed a gear with a twin splitter up a hill
nufc4eva999 2 years ago
proper lorry my arse what a piece of junk who in there right mind wound want to drive that chicken coop on wheels .
Graeme380 2 years ago
Obviously you are a " duff driver " if you can't appreciate just how good the ERF C-series was, out handle any foreign junk on twisty A roads any day, I suspect you were not bright enough to do tricks like changing gear without the clutch and have to put up with your arm hanging off changing a syncro box. ERF's were always the first choice wagons for true craftsment at the art of HGV driving.
brossen99 2 years ago 8
Umm, ME. I,d give my left bollock to get behind the wheel of a proper lorry again. My current steed is shite (FH480). My 9yo daughter can drive it ( infact she has around the yard) Driving a modern truck you are no more than a steering wheel attendant. Too many firms now are all flash & no cash. I,d drive a real old truck & have the savings on R&M contracts passed onto me thanx :) Any hauliers in the SE or Benelux PM me if you can offer that lol.
oscarfish38 2 years ago 3
oscar ...if you drove that pile of shit long enough you would end up with no bollocks!!!!!!!!!
tonyhgv 2 years ago
Proper lorry twin steer day cab C Series...Brilliant
neilox1962 2 years ago
I would drive one of these today. I loved that cummins motor
mrspivvy 2 years ago
The garge i work at has a 1998 ec11 with no limiter. Goes well love shunting trailers around our yard with it, especally as im not old enough to drive (16)
idontno1 2 years ago
Good fun, but also the best way to learn.
foden4405 2 years ago
Drove one of those heaps back in the day thought it was christmas when i killed it and got an f10
Graeme380 2 years ago
you wont have to try so hard to kill the f10 me mon
MegaTiggy 2 years ago
She should be restored
mandrillfoden 2 years ago 2
You won't get an argument from me.
foden4405 2 years ago
@mandrillfoden you mean scraped yuk erf
transitcoffin 6 months ago
Nice Old truck..
When was it build??
aid2003 2 years ago
About 1983. ERF & FODEN have close family links, i have a soft spot for this old girl.
foden4405 2 years ago
about the same time as the TITANIC!! lol
tonyhgv 2 years ago
put it the SKIP thats next to it...(if it gets that far)...pml
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loveroflife3838 2 years ago
do you they use it as a shunter
baccy2k8 3 years ago
It's all fit for the road were is that agency man
mally1001 3 years ago
Tenner an hr, key's in the box. London for the morning, nee bother.
foden4405 3 years ago
Bloody Hell it looks brand new
mally1001 3 years ago
Nowt wrong with that motor mate. Bung on a set of lights & give it a service & put the bugger back to work. It,ll last ya years :)
oscarfish38 3 years ago
You are not wrong, she is a good old beast with alot more work in her
foden4405 3 years ago
erf are propper wagons an will go for ever. [what is the hp[thnx.
perkinsv8power 3 years ago
Don't quote me she had been off the road a bit when i worked there, sure the boys in the garage said she was 320 horse.
foden4405 3 years ago
14 litre Cummins were OK just so long as you were not paying the fuel and oil bill, before the " Big Cam " engines came along you were lucky to get 4 Mpg. Wear an tear on the PT fuel injection system also meant that they soon lost performance. They felt like they were doing better than they actually were because of the excess noise.
brossen99 3 years ago 2
If used to their full potential Gardner engines would " blow up " quite regularly, especially before they removed the screwdriver slot in the exhaust valve. Likewise picking up pistons, fractured crankcases. However hard you thrashed them the RR eagle would give you 500 K km after they introduced the composite pistons. 14 litre Cummins engines would run until they were using 3 gallons of oil a day and leaving a smoke screen behind.
brossen99 3 years ago
I didnt know that about gardners, but I can remember the 14 litre cummins being advertised as "the million mile engine", some of the old school drivers where I work absolutely swear by them
mrspivvy 3 years ago
The Rolls Royce Eagle was a terrible engine in the sence that every driver would trash seven shades of sh*t out of them as the were fast! Atleast with a Gardner or Cummins they lasted! Not the best performer but who wanted speed out a truck? Reliability was the key..
stevethethief 3 years ago
reading about cummins engines reminded me of when i was a drivers mate for the BRS in n/london in the 60s i was only a squirt then lol..we had GUYS with the V8 CUMMINS engines good engines but hell were they noisey. when i got home of a night and talked to my mum she use to tell me to stop shouting!..lol
tonyhgv 3 years ago
@tonyhgv I remember those V8 Cummins when I lived in Poplar E. London in the '60s and you're right they made a helluva racket. They were the first V8 I ever heard and I reckon they put me on the path to truckerhood lol.
gm16v149 8 months ago
@gm16v149 ..hiya Chris..the good ole days eh!! PML..the.60S greatest ever music era,no traffic jams,no speed limit on M1,horny women,crap trucks LOL ,,my old mk2 ford zephyr (6 cylinder) could pull better than most trucks of that time.......your ok in OZ..no cameras,no parking fines,no vosa asking stupid questions,no CPC from the EU ..etc etc...you got any jobs for me out therein OZ, lol...tony...PS..we still have horny women,but at my age your mind makes appointments your body cant keep!!!PML
tonyhgv 8 months ago
@tonyhgv Before I left for oz in 1970 the new Volvo F88 they called a "juggernaught", Scania-Vabis had just come out, and all the trucks were British, ERF, Scammel, Leyland, Foden etc etc. No sleepers, long distance guys slept overnight in a bed at boarding houses for truck drivers. P.S. My wheels at the time were Triumph T100A, Norton 650SS and 650 Triton in that order.
gm16v149 8 months ago
eaton splitter gearboxes were great once you got use to them..you should never have to replace clutch..so good for owner/drivers
tonyhgv 3 years ago
sorry lads l` ve been driving hgv for longer than i want to admit.and although the brit trucks all had great engines..the cabs (mostly erf and leyland) were a nightmare with window frames running down where the mirrors are and seats that hardly go back etc etc it seems that they did nt give a f##k about the driver when it came to cab design..i for one like the mans and volvos etc if only for the cab design at least you can get a good night out in them..
tonyhgv 3 years ago
i agree cos half the people on here mate never had to have a night out in them i used to go with my dad when he used to drive for brs western out of north clive st in cardiff he had a scammell crusader it was fucking freezing having a night out in most of the old brit trucks cos of poor build quality im a driver my self now long distance ive got a fh12 460 gobstopper and ithink we all tend to look back at the past with rose tinted spectacles
M374EVL 3 years ago 2
Any driver worth his salt could drive a constant mesh box ( David Brown of Fuller ) without ever touching the clutch apart from setting off and stopping.
brossen99 3 years ago
The old LV and A series ERF's were great and easy to drive, the B & C series scored because the cabs didn't fall to bits. The best handling ERF's were the B series sleeper cabs ( long wheel-base fitted with an extra sping leaf ) C series were ok but once the dampers were knackered they were too rough to ride. The multi-leaf B series never suffered from this as long as you steamed the oil from between the spring leaves regularly.
brossen99 3 years ago
I was brought up with gardner engined ERF's, the 8 cyl 240 Gardner's were useless, you could get more usefull power out of a 6LXB if you knew what you were doing. The Rolls-Royce turbocharged Eagle was the best engine for overall performance litre for litre( again if you tweaked them a bit )
brossen99 3 years ago
Can't beat the B & C series! The 14 ltr Cummins is a good motor but you can't get better than the 6 & 8cyl Gardner's! They plod on forever! My Dad's firm ran a mix of gardner's and cummings and the only main problems were the usual servicable items. Today I drive and work on trucks myself and they are always breaking down! Old trucks were harder to drive but easy too fix! Modern ones are "too" easy to drive and too hard to fix! Love doubling the clutch and fighting the gears, keeps you awake!
stevethethief 3 years ago
we've got 1 of these as a yard shunter on a c plate needs a can of cough medicine 2 get it going. the last of the c series models were known as cp series (cummins power)they revamped the seats by putting stripes down em n i think that was about the only change made
fenianfay 3 years ago
smoky stinky C series.
look at all that smoke on start up, plus it needed a sniff of easy start, plus the air was down because ALL ERFs leak air. Noticed the prestige black MAN in the corner - german technology is the way forward my friend.
cavalier5555 3 years ago
U r right but only if u like going back to the dealers every five mins to get gearbox(auto cos boy drivers cant handle twin splitters) and engine remapped cos it wont average more than 7 on general.Then of course we come to the turbocharger which every (PRESTIGE?) motor in this yard has eaten in less than 2 years even though it ran on fully synthetic oil.The future?
foden4405 3 years ago
Hey come on man! I work for MAN and I know they're piles of scrap, I hate the new standard auto boxes also. I was just commenting about the old ERFs, hey, they must be good trucks - you don't see any 20 year old MANs on the road do you?
Peace out man
cavalier5555 3 years ago
Best of it is i loved the old f2000 roadhaus which i drove new on a T plate with the 410 engine,the cab was higher cos it ran TGA cab mounts.Well thought out lots of storage & a manual box.TGA big cab but no storage,too much electronics,backward step.Only good thing the bed is massive.Got on my high horse a bit back there but i love the old stuff best,probably cos u can fix it with a big hammer.
foden4405 3 years ago
c seris was the last `proper` motor erf made,my dad still runs one on an old y plate. who cares about smoke on start up? in 18 years all its had is a new starter motor...class
dobie86 3 years ago 2
damn let the thing build oil pressure before hitting 2000 rpms
drivergeoff 3 years ago
Was already warm since she shunts all day.But u r right he has no mechanical sympathy.
foden4405 3 years ago
Hummin Cummins!
ROBBO1978OVBLYTH 3 years ago