Honest John Howard lol

[Firefly0100]

How's that 'change' working out now you fucking idiot? By the way, GST was taken to an election, get your facts right fuckhead.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 The fact that he took it to an election doesn't vindicate his change of mind because he was in Government and had a 45 seat majority. It was almost absolutely impossible for him to lose and he knew it .The change is working out great, the Australian economy is stronger than it ever has been despite Libtard denialism of this fact.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm going to be totally polite because I feel sorry for you. Our economy has absolutely no sign of collapsing at all, it is literally the first or second-most (depending on which figures you listen to) stable economy on earth. You're right about Keating & GST but he rejected it ultimately because he came to the view that it was not a good reform. Our debt levels are so low right now that your comments on them are laughable.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 Untrue. The GST policy changed massively between Keating's consideration of it, to Hewson's advocacy of it, to Howard's eventual policy implementation. Howard's budget surplus was no surplus at all - it was savings as a result of not making desperately needed infrastructure investment. It wasn't a big surplus, either. I can concur, I feel embarrassed that Libs think they get it - it's embarrassing. Labor built this country, not you turkeys. And that is fact.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 Our current debt level is not 200 billion dollars and even if it currently was that would not be "destroying this country" because that is a level of debt that can be sustained by our economy if it is necessary to do so. And why did we go into debt? On the direct advice of economists the world over and the G20, really.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 Howard taking the GST to an election was hardly a genuine comment. He said never ever and then changed his mind after he had a 45 seat majority that he knew he would only lose in the most unlikely of circumstances. He almost did and it's a real darned shame he did not. But he did not the likelihood of losing with such a big majority was unlikely.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 And what are you actually fucking talking about? Everything gets taken to an election sooner or later. Do u not understand the extreme level of checks & balances inherent in our democracy? Not taking an extremely low impact carbon price to election before putting in place a year before an election hardly compares to sending Oz into major wars without taking those proposals to an election. They were far more opposed than the carbon price has been but Howard didn't care.

[brentoneccles]

@Firefly0100 Although at the same time Gillard actually did take the proposal to the 2010 election and has simply been the victim of the greatest word-twisting by the Opp in Oz history. Google for yourself: "Gillard: my carbon price promise". Libs have played on the fact that most people don't distinguish mentally between a 'carbon tax' and an 'emissions trading scheme'.

[luneco100]

yes barbados great country west indies you must be good at cricket like lazarus

[luneco100]

yes you are right after 25 yrs in the construction industry I have no idea about workchoices wait it never happened must have been a dream or was it a nightmare im confused you have to enlightened me oh yes we lost all our rights in the industry were treated like crap thanks to the ir laws that brainwashed all the employment was it real no no it was merely a tsunami under lazarus that nearly knocked everything we fought for in the last 150 yrs for the workers yes you must be a liberal stooge

[0717smgr1]

Actually when he changed his mind he took it to an election and was voted in. Barely but still took it to an election. He was a true leader unlike the trash we have now. btw if you notice the gst came in before 07 so it had nothing to do with him losing that election.

[dylankrajewski]

GO JOHNNY, at least he had a mandate in the electorate unlike julia, if its so bad, why did it get VOTED IN, Julia doesn't want an election for the carbon tax because she knows she will lose. Julia Gillard is a sorry excuse for a human being -_-

[luneco100]

i wonder if tony madmonk was the pm and introduced a carbon tax i bet you any money all the liberal monkeys would be saying yes its good for the nation the madmonk is the best the levy for the floods yes lets help our fellow australians the nbn yes we need updated internet yes the madmonk is the best if he reintroduced workchoices again yes we need more money for the empolyers not employees awa's yes unfair dismissal yes not once they can say no to all their bad policies never never again lol

[0717smgr1]

@luneco100 Actually no if he tried to do what gillard is now, like many labor supporters are doing now the lib supporters will leave him in droves. Many of you still seem to not know a lot about what work choices actually was.

[luneco100]

@0717smgr1 23 YRS OLD you are but another dickhead brought up under lazarus and his workchoices in 23 yrs you must have worked since you were 5 yrs old to understand life in general for me that has been working for 25 yrs in the construction industry well before you were born i must be living in the past like yourself until you grow a brain and know what lazarus done to workers nationwide put a sock in it bubble boy

[0717smgr1]

@luneco100 haha it also says im from barbados if you want to check my profile more. Does that mean I am from barbados? The fact that you said grow a brain is enough for me ofc you learn about a couple of bad things which are blown up thanks to some very successful politics from labor but you dont see the benefits to our economy. haha grow a brain lol this guy is fun and bubble boy :D now that you are over the hill can you fall down it already?

[MsTsarbomba]

@luneco100 mmmmm Its funny what you Union boys in WA say, is it something youve just been brainwashed into thinking or youve actually met people or you yourself have been hard done by Workchoices? Is the country really better off under these fucking lying filthy pedophile fucks who run the country right now and who are hellbent on fucking everyone over outside the Government payroll?

[HSDDTS]

Bring back John. The best PM we have had!!!!!!

[0717smgr1]

@HSDDTS Agreed.

[kroid1]

hmmmm... how was the GST over 10%? Im pretty sure its still at that rate.

Also... the people responded... after re-electing him to being the second longest serving prime minister? - besides what was that carbon tax thing again?

[yourgasm]

The GST was a great tax reform. When Howard first said never ever,I was concerned greatly that our tax system was not reformed until it was,justice was served

[GENERALLEEJ]

What Carbon TAX?

[Grefi1985]

please tell me he didnt really say that!!!!!!

[Jesterarts]

lol, this old chestnut.

Yeah, going into one election he said there will be no GST, and he got elected. Then going into the next election he changed his mind and said "Change of plan, I've decided if you re-elect me there will be a GST"... and he got re-elected. Failing to see the issue. He was elected again even though he said GST would be introduced. Someone voted for him. He was re-elected another 2 times after that even though the GST was there.

[1991njl]

@Jesterarts the thing about the 1998 election "victory" was, not unlike the 2010 result, Howard did not win a majority of votes even though he retained the confidence of the House and as such the idea that he had gotten himself an electoral mandate to implement the GST suffers a bit.

[Firefly0100]

@Jesterarts Exactly, christ it's nice to see there's at least one smart person here.

[spogee]

Because Labor NEVER lies and ALWAYS sticks to its promises...

[youcancallmebetty]

and people wonder why no one in the union movement believes tony abbott when he says workchoices will "never ever" come back, it's dead etc.

[cunnamullafalla]

I HATE him, I hope he burns in hell, I'd light the fire myself. I wouldnt even want to stand next to him in a church I hate him so much Australia spoke loud and clearwhen they voted his Gov out AND Howard out of his seat. Stupid LIAR, I HATE YOU for what you did to Australia. I hope all the Lib voters see this Vids and see the lies this political divisionist spread. I HATE YOU! Burn in hell bastard!

[gbanger666]

Atleast Howard wasnt a braindead moron like Kruddy. In the matter of a year hes already managed to fuck us.

[scoobajunky]

yep. mortgage brokers in the U.S. giving out loans to white trash who couldn't afford to pay them off to banks who had no security on the houses is definitely, 100% the fault of kevin rudd.

and hansie cronje is to blame for the demise of the australian cricket team. just ask johnnie, he is a tragic after all

[caithnesscath]

Hello all - it would make your head spin to know how easy it would be for a government to change (no doubt increase!!!) the so called 'locked in for ever' GST rate of 10%. Just imagine how many taxpayer dollars were spent to 'convince us' that this was a good thing. Uhrrrrrrrrrrr... well it did help a few surpluses (I call a surplus dunrobinthe people!) Keep strugglin' cobber !!.

[liber8me]

actually if you understood anything about the australia taxation system you would know that the only way to increase the gst is to get every single premier plus the pm to agree - something incredibly difficutt. secondly, the gst has been the main reason why australia has enjoyed such low inflation and interest rates - it is an indirect tax which puts downward pressure on inflation.

[ihateskirts]

the first quote made me LMAO, the first thing he did was put GST on everything!!!!

[LordAkira]

He got entirely kicked out of politics. That'll teach the little shit for lying to Australia. He thought he could get away with it.

Too bad fuckhead ! Australia remembers!

[cricketwizz48]

no its government service tax isnt it

[AccordionManiac]

Never ever? John Coward's on of the most arrogant lairs world has seen

[chepickle]

Wrong tense, was, he isn't anything now, he is a was from now on. A "was" the Prime Minister of Australia, maybe even "Was" member for Bennalong, come on Maxine McKew, come on the postals, but yes, was an arrogant arsehole lickspitle lair, you have that dead to rights.

[linuxpenguin73]

do you know what a sock puppet is? :D

[ozwunder69]

yeah you

[dylankrajewski]

@chepickle are you stupid?

[ArmchairRevolution]

Whats GST?

[chepickle]

Goods and Service Tax, same as Value Added Tax in England, (VAT) a tax applied at the cash register of every shop, every legal transaction in the nation.

A consumption tax.

[ArmchairRevolution]

It is refreshing to know that we're not the only country with liars as head of government.

[chepickle]

Not for long..... he'll be lucky to hold Benalong , his own seat, let alone the country.

[ArmchairRevolution]

Ah, but is he not still in charge?

[chepickle]

Election has been called 24th November Liberal coalition are 16% behind Labor at this stage(2 party preferred). But he is still in charge for the time being.

[2ourettes]

How prophetic of you. :)

[chepickle]

I like Maxine McKew, we were thinking Bennalong didn't want the threat of a $200 fine twice within a couple of months, One for the general election and again when Honest John (LMFAO) resigned after losing the General, so why not just vote in the Alternate. P.S. I smacked Jackie Kelly's husband in the head with my door at the first election she was in and sent her black faxes with white writing to waste her toner (to get her to stop leaflet dropping me).

[Aukon07]

Nice! :D