@Incognitoification1 Culture is a Bell curve, and follows what I call the higher intelligence less likely to reproduce law. The idiots are winning as they reproduce at an astronomical rate. We are doomed, but it was a good run!
hegel was a shit philosopher, simple as fuck. he knew dick about where the epoch was going and he did nothing but argue with other philosophers like marx and schopenhauer. he was basically write wing and leberal and he had prejudice against eastern cultures. fuck him. if you want real philosophy and a truly complex mind, i recommend you read immanuel cunt.
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with complete support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
As sociologist Marx was a joke. He advocated violence and as such thugs used his works as rationalization of their whims. Dialectic Materialism was another word for sociopath.
Durkheim above all was the father of institutional sociology.
@IrminC you are ignorant of marx's teachings. plus the fact that you think that what someone advocates has any bearing on how society works gives away the fact that you are ignorant of scientific method too
@R2rGangstaFC Throw up any element of Marx's teaching and I will correctly not the reasoning, consequence, and relevant bearing of both the modern world & sociological theory. As I said before Marx's critique of Capitalism and his interpretation of historical narrative was proven false with his concept of dialectic materialism. Ultimately proven misguided in the face of functionalist theory and biology (think behavioral genetics). Try to make relevant all you want, it won't succeed.
@Hold423 There are some "critiques" which pass for legitimate analyzation of Capitalism or the flow of Capitalism at that time, however the basis of the critique was to the reinforce the sociological notion of class conflict. That is the dialectic of generational ideas (in this sense a class struggle) which so defined man in totality was the economic thesis for totalitarianism. The fact that human consciousness is not defined by social means and the conscious narrative is not class struggle.
Barring the dialectic form of reasoning - which Marx borrowed from Hegel- both ( Marx and Hegel ) were entirely different. Dialectical reasoning as propounded by the Hegel is quite interesting and brilliant but its application to the real world is unprovable. As Russell criticized, the Hegelian Universal Spirit as focused on the developments in the Austro-Hungarian empire is quite a narrow view. That could be because Hegel was exposed only to that limited world.
This video is good as an INTRODUCTION. The thesis > antithesis > synthesis language, as others have pointed out, is highly problematic as is the unHegelian usage of abstract, concrete and other key terms. Nonetheless, Singer presents Hegel's ideas in an intelligible way for those looking for a way in to the philosophy of history or the philosophy of right.
a rose by any other name is still a rose? democracy does not mean freedom. you can have a monarchy and still be free? free to come and go, free to use gold as money, etc. or you have can a democractic state that controls your every move?
Why is the interviewer wearing goggles? Marx was the progeny of a long line of rabbi's. Guess these things aren't relevant...Singer is a bit of a bore to be frank. Sounds like he's directly reciting a textbook he failed to understand. Idiot regurgitator.
Hegelian dialectics as a dynamic towards increasing freedom...How naieve can you get in a world were thesis and antithesis are designed and highlighted by those exploiting the engineered antinomies for their own gain and purpose...
@1982CFD, Yes and no. Hegel like all major German thinkers with the exception of Marx was appropriated by the Nazis as a forebearer of Hitler's "Thousand Year Reich" (even though some people claim Marx's work "On the Jewish Question" is a precedent of genocidal anti-semitism---I disagree but that is a whole other issue). An imbecilic reading of Hegel's views on nationalism can easily be connected with Nazism's own eugenic driven goal of the body-politic. However, Hegel denied irrationalism.
@1982CFD,...It is important to understand that nazism was in many ways an inverted manipulation of group libidinal forces described by Sigmund Freud in 'Civilization and its Discontents' in the name of a quasi-Hegelian concept of a German race. Nazism banned Freud, Marx and Hegel. That being said, despite the brilliance of Hegel's "Philosophy of History", the foundations of both Germanic and Western ethnocentrism find many of their roots in these works.
yap and his name is pronouned just like it really is: singer (like the noun, 'the pop singer'...). You know, an idiot from here, Brazil, has corrected me severely because I said "Peter Singer" instead of ... Singder, as he'd like to be, Idiot!
Roberto Carlos Ramos is an idiot, here I say publicly! :-0
Hegel lifts up the European Ideal, in his Greek Polis(City), Marx, in the other hand, proffesses an anti-european philosophy of a border less, Nation less, World, where Race, Culture, religious traditions, Social hierarchy are non-existent, under a "Proletarian Dictatorship", where all peoples and races are mixed up in a dirty mess.
These ideas are coming to fruition only now...a feudal world central state run by bankers. Peter Singer is one of "Lenin's useful fools".BTW the more i listen to Singer the more I hear educated stupidity. How sad that he worked so hard to be an articulate moron. Pompous turds.
'what works is the truth' is the lowest form of justificatlon for what is. And what is, isnt necessary, it is contingent and based on the often irrational developpement of history. Saying that the capitalist human condition has accomplished truth is pathetic and ideological. Thats why Hegel was ridiculed when he spoke about Prussia. Anyway, the intellectual depth of pragmatism is questionable.
lol marx did not make a contribution of bringing materialism to sociology, materialism was introduced into philosophy long long before him, for example hobbes was a materialist. what you should have said was dialectic materialism, an accursed doctrine whose 'contribution to sociology' that it took lives of 100 million ppl
@mrfatd - Ridiculous. Marx is a must read for anyone who has respect for culture, and not only to tie him to Stalin. Of course, his idea of communism isnt acceptable in the light of what happened in the 20th century, but he was a man of his time, he couldnt have predicted the gulags. His thought is much deeper than the cliches you stole from your patriotic daddy. Thats why he is tought in any serious school
@mrfatd - And you are right about materialism, it started with the greeks. But if you dont see how historical materialism contributed to sociology, I suggest reading a book
@frogbuster20 You are mistaken about materialism. It really started when a fucking neanderthal wished to have the best hammer so as to bang more women. It started with sex itself, motherfucker. Men wish more to fuck more. It`s simple as this. That`s why your girlfriend would surely prefer to be fucked by me instead of you, little bastard.
@rufohot La justicia no tiene idioma, imbecil. Y por favor, dejà de perseguirme. Si tu idea es seguir mintièndote, allà vos, pero no me acuses de no tener vida por decir la verdad.
@rufohot Oìme Marta. Si querès formar mi club de fans, adelante. Pero eximime de tener que ver tu miserable presencia, gordo sodomita. Toda misiva la contestarè vìa correo. No sos el ùnico fracasado que me persigue, ya tienen un nùmero considerable de pelotudos, de los cuales creo que podrìas ser sin duda el lìder. Cualidades no te faltan retrasado mental. Te recomiendo nutrir tu seso con otra cosa que no sea la pelotudez habitual que te circunda y domina, hijo de una gran puta. He dicho....
@rufohot Ya conseguiste personerìa, o estas tramitando, boludo alegre ? Mirà que pertenecer tiene sus privilegios...Por ser el lìder de mi club de fans, vas a tener el honor de recibir diez puntinazos en el orto...de parte mìa !!! Sè que vas a disfrutar como loca, y eso es solo el principio. Puedo hasta empernarme a tu vieja mientras miràs admirado...No te voy a defraudar.
@mrfatd actually marx, weber, and durkheim are the fathers of the social sciences according to Stanford Encyclopedia
all three are great (not a fan of Marx's communist manifesto though im a fan of modern neo-marxism such as the frankfurt school of erich fromm) still marx was a great intellectual
we can't blame marx for the deaths of 20th century communist just as how we can't blame Christianity/Martin Luther's Protestant movement for jewish holocaust, it;s illogical
@Rico8458 I think this is unsubstantiated and overly cynical. "No senator or rep votes for the people" I interpret to mean that none vote in the interest of the people. But surely it is rational to assume, statistically, that some probably do.
Regarding freedom and democracy, one does not appreciate the connection between the two when one lives in a democracy. Democracy is government by consensus. Your and my opinions mixed with those of our fellow citizens matter. That's freedom.
@Rico8458 But you're talking about a Representitive Democracy. A Pure Democracy wouldn't have that problem. Though I do admit, it would still have it's own flaws.
@Rico8458 well . . . there were many thinkers before Marx that wrote on sociological subjects or gave historical events a sociological twist. Tocqueville, Clarendon and even Thyucdides to name three.
@Rico8458 I believe you mean Auguste Comte is the father of sociology, or at least that seems to be the general consensus in academia. However, YouTube Philosophers generally have there own agenda. Perhaps you are being facetious (along with the other commenters in flame0430's video. After all, there is no way you are all really this stupid?)
I recall grumbling and dismissive reactions to Peter Singer's worth as a philosopher and to his interpretation of Hegel... but not specifically why. Anybody? What's Singer so wrong about w/ Hegel?
today das capital explains the current federal reserve system, and banks, and goldman sachs of the world today. we working drones suffer . lol no bail out for the working man in america.
erm wrong. that is not capitalism but rather keynesianism and corporatism. Which is facism and promotes an elitism. So in other words the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.
If it was capitalism, there would be no bail out. It would be 100% personal responsability
Your idea of capitalism is one that has never existed and will never exist. The free market will never result in perfect competition among equal producers. The self-regulating market is a fantasy. The only way to ensure that the market economy fulfills its social purpose is through regulation on behalf of the people. The solution to our over-corporatized, fascist system is more democracy not less.
did you know that Hong Kong has government run healthcare? education? roads? infrastructure? anyways, they do have a very "free" economy which has created a lot of wealth at the top and Hong Kong has one of the highest gini coefficients of any developed nation.
I think it's purely accidental that they do not use that word. It's really a very good translation for what Hegel calls "Geist". There are only two reasons I can think of to avoid it:
(1) Hegel distinguishes between "objektiver Geist" und "subjektiver Geist". While the first term does refer to culture, the second refers to individual people's conscious thoughts. However, it would be rather odd to call the latter "subjective culture" in English.
(2) We usually think of culture as something that is pluralistic: There is just one human nature, but there are many cultures. The Hegelian Geist, however, is a singular term. While there is something he calls Volksgeister (the mentalities of different peoples), he regards those as transitory manifestations of one single human Geist which unfolds itself through history in a logically necessary way. In this respect then, the concept of Geist is closer to human nature than to culture.
The word "culture" is practically meaningless; I don't think they're intentionally avoiding it as much as that there's really no reason to use a word as vague as "culture," ever.
Did you want someone with a specialty in the subject of the word "culture" or with a specialty in philosophy?
I have the former and I do not think the latter exists although I have had, interestingly enough, many interesting run-ins with the word "culture" over the years.
The first of these was a pseudo-intellectual who thought he was being Socratic by posing the question "do we need a culture?" to myself and a colleague. Obviously, this question is both meaningless and absurd. My colleague and I made it an inside joke for a while.
In the various discussions I've had with other philosophers since then, I've found that it is best to simply avoid using the word "culture" in a broad sense because it lacks any precision whatsoever, a view shared by many of these philosophers I've encountered over the years.
I take my former response back. Actually, that was very useful. Is there some sort of bridge between anthropology and philosophy then? I absolutely understand how contextual it is.
I would imagine that, since "culture" is universal in so few things, that it couldn't be universal in a science of metaphysics.
Some actually make the argument that perception changes according to culture. I find that hard to believe...But, again...I'm no expert.
Spirit is Matter and Matter is Spirit, and all oposition reconciles in the ABSOLUTE, whereupon no word can be spoken. Taking away thinking in the world mean the upheval of being - the World - which is impossible - and for this reason thinking is eternal and my personal temporal existens is a moment in the eternal thinking or Spirit. The Death is an illusion like the REALITY of the wave in the sea IS THE SEA, not the individual temporal wave...
"Theirs is a revealed philosophy. It is the heir of Judaism. It could never have been founded by free observation of life and nature, like the philosophy of Greece or of the Renaissance. It is Protestant theology rationalized." -- George Santayana
@christophercoltrane Well said; now if you want something on TV that challenges the brain you have to stay up until about 0300 for Open University. Sure, in the past there was poor-quality, lowest common denominator buuble-gum for the eyes, but there does appear to be some broadcasters out there who trusted the audience to handle something other than sport or celebrity tit-fests. Or maybe we're just wearing rose-tinted glasses.
with hegelry, not only you can prove the existense of god, show that history has a purpose, demonstrate the holiness of the state, but also unite all of universe, math, science, art, religion and philosophy into SPIRIT which unfolds itself within itself for itself
i have. read the intro to that so-called phenomenology of spirit, and its mind-stupefying nonsemse unlike anything else written in f philosophy, its just a diary of a schizophrenic madman
Maybe you could recommend some useful books in order to grasp hegel and write some recommendations how to get into Hegel' thought? thank You in advance.
sorry but i havent read any books on this genius. to get in to his thought you must understand how to dialectically unfold the spirit in freedom of the State. why? because the truth is the whole!
LOL at 10:30 Peter Singer tells the reporter about the German word for holy ghost, which the reporter immediately says aloud, and is commended by Singer who says "good" in German..u can see him SMIRK!!
Me too if we understand freedom as responsobility of being yourself. But the world is going towards freedom in this sense: right for animal, rights for gay, rights for children. Soon in 50 years the world will give rights for incest, zoophilia, sex from 14, rights for plants and so on.
Someone mentioned Hegel today in defense of gay rights. And while I agree with gay rights I disagree with the entire Hegelian way of thinking. We are marching towards freedom to what end? Sex from 14 was perfectly acceptable not 200 years ago. Incest was the norm in royal families for thousands of years. My problem with Hegel's theories is when people apply them to EVERYTHING when his ideas are so not blanket theories for how the world works and will work.
You have to think freedom not as it is in the common sense. Hegel thinks the freedom as Bruno or Spinoza: the perfect union of necessity and freedom. The freedom of the individual is abstract and so not true - the true is the total, but the total is only the essence that completes itself by the its own development.
Hegel was a son of his time: he cames from Illuminism, Kant, and romantic thought. But, for the genesis of dialectic, we have to see to 2 fondamental works: Sophist (Plato) and Ethic (Spinoza - Omnis determinatio est negatio).
I think Stace`s book is a typically anglo-saxon interpretation of hegel. That means far away from Hegel`s text. It is suffice to see that he uses the mith of thesis-antithesis and sinthesis, which is really bulshit, hegel never used those words. Hartmann and kaufmann showed that it is not pertinent with hegel`s philosophy
"Coïncidence is logical" (Johan Cruijff, world famous Hegelian thinker)
CaptainBluebear08 1 day ago
great interviewer.
Basketball470 1 day ago
darwin deez on hegel, what more could you want?
KinnieTheExplorer 4 days ago
83k views after 4 years... Rather disturbing when you consider that one lady gaga video has 442 million views.
Is western culture declining?
Incognitoification1 1 week ago
@Incognitoification1 Culture is a Bell curve, and follows what I call the higher intelligence less likely to reproduce law. The idiots are winning as they reproduce at an astronomical rate. We are doomed, but it was a good run!
astroboomboy 2 days ago
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@astroboomboy "We are doomed, but it was a good run!"
True, shoving one's way to the top of the banana tree counts for much less than it once did.
Apes spamming with 'big brain' cave Art fad, & moving things around with levers & wheels.
It will leave cave life as we know it in utter ruin., although some will persist, thus helping to preserve our species' memory.
Kinda Like Externalized neural cultures; comparisons in/of functioning economic logics as experienced consequence.
Have a banana.
marsCubed 1 day ago
Leave it to an Australian to go on wearing a windbreaker and khakis.
Ahh! Just kidding! I love you Aussies.
jessemaurais 2 weeks ago
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hegel was a shit philosopher, simple as fuck. he knew dick about where the epoch was going and he did nothing but argue with other philosophers like marx and schopenhauer. he was basically write wing and leberal and he had prejudice against eastern cultures. fuck him. if you want real philosophy and a truly complex mind, i recommend you read immanuel cunt.
EITrollo 1 month ago
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EITrollo 1 month ago
Youtube is great, I wouldn't have been able to watch Peter Singer discuss Hegel in my bedroom 10 years ago. Fuck the Luddites.
SlugChristie 2 months ago 5
copy that.
Rico8458 4 months ago
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The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with complete support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
Hmmm yes, quite...
MadOldMan 5 months ago
@MadOldMan mmyes right
stewart2012 5 months ago
I love Peter Singer but he looked a little creepy when he was that age...
philosophynerd202 6 months ago
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HAHAHA that moustache is magnificent :P this is my first time seeing Singer with coloured hair
TheTvrulesthenation 4 months ago
Thank you for this series. I'm subscribing.
ExSaint1379 6 months ago
I own 4 books of Hegel. I can't wait to read them! (Hopefully my mind doesn't collapse halfway through).
Piccolo7126 6 months ago
The contrast between Bryan's refined British accent and Peter's strong Aussie accent is amusing
idSuperego 7 months ago
hard to say, some say marx is the father of socilogy? weber, durheim, or comte?
Rico8458 7 months ago
copy that. A republic too.
Rico8458 8 months ago
As sociologist Marx was a joke. He advocated violence and as such thugs used his works as rationalization of their whims. Dialectic Materialism was another word for sociopath.
Durkheim above all was the father of institutional sociology.
IrminC 8 months ago
@IrminC you are ignorant of marx's teachings. plus the fact that you think that what someone advocates has any bearing on how society works gives away the fact that you are ignorant of scientific method too
R2rGangstaFC 8 months ago
@R2rGangstaFC Throw up any element of Marx's teaching and I will correctly not the reasoning, consequence, and relevant bearing of both the modern world & sociological theory. As I said before Marx's critique of Capitalism and his interpretation of historical narrative was proven false with his concept of dialectic materialism. Ultimately proven misguided in the face of functionalist theory and biology (think behavioral genetics). Try to make relevant all you want, it won't succeed.
IrminC 8 months ago
@IrminC This makes absolutely no sense. Das Kapital is a critique of Capitalism. How does "Dialectic Materialism" prove this wrong?
Hold423 8 months ago
@Hold423 There are some "critiques" which pass for legitimate analyzation of Capitalism or the flow of Capitalism at that time, however the basis of the critique was to the reinforce the sociological notion of class conflict. That is the dialectic of generational ideas (in this sense a class struggle) which so defined man in totality was the economic thesis for totalitarianism. The fact that human consciousness is not defined by social means and the conscious narrative is not class struggle.
IrminC 8 months ago
Too bad people on TV today aren't as informed about what they're talking about as these two guys.
avq5 9 months ago
Barring the dialectic form of reasoning - which Marx borrowed from Hegel- both ( Marx and Hegel ) were entirely different. Dialectical reasoning as propounded by the Hegel is quite interesting and brilliant but its application to the real world is unprovable. As Russell criticized, the Hegelian Universal Spirit as focused on the developments in the Austro-Hungarian empire is quite a narrow view. That could be because Hegel was exposed only to that limited world.
Thanks flame0430 and Youtube
sonny19xx 9 months ago
This video is good as an INTRODUCTION. The thesis > antithesis > synthesis language, as others have pointed out, is highly problematic as is the unHegelian usage of abstract, concrete and other key terms. Nonetheless, Singer presents Hegel's ideas in an intelligible way for those looking for a way in to the philosophy of history or the philosophy of right.
jeremyTENspoken 10 months ago
relativism. good point. no one "father" but a qualitative succession of contributors to the discipline?
Rico8458 11 months ago
i was blind but now i can see.
Rico8458 11 months ago
qualitatve or quantitative? science or art? lol
Rico8458 11 months ago
a rose by any other name is still a rose? democracy does not mean freedom. you can have a monarchy and still be free? free to come and go, free to use gold as money, etc. or you have can a democractic state that controls your every move?
Rico8458 11 months ago
nice stache, mr singer.
jak1428 1 year ago
@jak1428 lol how good is it!
jerk4990 11 months ago
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jak1428 1 year ago
Hegel, it is well known, NEVER used the word 'thesis', 'antithesis' and 'synthesis'. Funny how history plays these tricks.
vivino100 1 year ago
Great video
TheAnD33a 1 year ago
hegel is the ultimate rock star!
kennroxx 1 year ago
nice ... i have a new favorite philosopher .. interesting guy ..
ubermensch81 1 year ago
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I recommend not watching this lame video
Namely82 1 year ago
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Namely82 1 year ago
can we say all these problems began with Descartes and Kant? and the attempt of the modern Thomism and Gilson to fight back these tend to socialism
Rico8458 1 year ago
In russian pls:)
loskidc 1 year ago
Why is the interviewer wearing goggles? Marx was the progeny of a long line of rabbi's. Guess these things aren't relevant...Singer is a bit of a bore to be frank. Sounds like he's directly reciting a textbook he failed to understand. Idiot regurgitator.
Hegelian dialectics as a dynamic towards increasing freedom...How naieve can you get in a world were thesis and antithesis are designed and highlighted by those exploiting the engineered antinomies for their own gain and purpose...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
Are fascists also Old Hegelians?
1982CFD 1 year ago
@1982CFD, Yes and no. Hegel like all major German thinkers with the exception of Marx was appropriated by the Nazis as a forebearer of Hitler's "Thousand Year Reich" (even though some people claim Marx's work "On the Jewish Question" is a precedent of genocidal anti-semitism---I disagree but that is a whole other issue). An imbecilic reading of Hegel's views on nationalism can easily be connected with Nazism's own eugenic driven goal of the body-politic. However, Hegel denied irrationalism.
brcx300 1 year ago
@1982CFD,...It is important to understand that nazism was in many ways an inverted manipulation of group libidinal forces described by Sigmund Freud in 'Civilization and its Discontents' in the name of a quasi-Hegelian concept of a German race. Nazism banned Freud, Marx and Hegel. That being said, despite the brilliance of Hegel's "Philosophy of History", the foundations of both Germanic and Western ethnocentrism find many of their roots in these works.
brcx300 1 year ago
Well done for putting all these Philosophy programmes up!!! Good job flame0430!
corsarioriddim 1 year ago
no capitalist countries discuss communism openly anymore. it's a tabu. and that's sad
diogotomediogo 1 year ago 13
@diogotomediogo taboo*
Oomphed 1 month ago
So that's how Singer used to looks.
metal87power 1 year ago
@metal87power
yap and his name is pronouned just like it really is: singer (like the noun, 'the pop singer'...). You know, an idiot from here, Brazil, has corrected me severely because I said "Peter Singer" instead of ... Singder, as he'd like to be, Idiot!
Roberto Carlos Ramos is an idiot, here I say publicly! :-0
ieBrazil 1 year ago
Imagine, if you will, a comparable program broadcast by one of today's television stations.
Right. I can't either.
bapyou 1 year ago 18
Hegel lifts up the European Ideal, in his Greek Polis(City), Marx, in the other hand, proffesses an anti-european philosophy of a border less, Nation less, World, where Race, Culture, religious traditions, Social hierarchy are non-existent, under a "Proletarian Dictatorship", where all peoples and races are mixed up in a dirty mess.
GWF Hegel was German, K.Marx was a Jew.
mirarostodo 1 year ago
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visualart139 1 year ago
these videos are truly wonderful, thank you.
4455matthew 1 year ago
Zeitgeist???!!!???? Is the Z Movement and the Venus Project from Hegel and Marx? Just asking ; )
katydig 1 year ago
These ideas are coming to fruition only now...a feudal world central state run by bankers. Peter Singer is one of "Lenin's useful fools".BTW the more i listen to Singer the more I hear educated stupidity. How sad that he worked so hard to be an articulate moron. Pompous turds.
hypno59 1 year ago
Wow, I can hardly recognize Singer, being that I am used to seeing him post 1990's.
sfmike20 1 year ago
These videos are wonderful. Thank you for uploading so many of them.
joshplayin111 1 year ago
this is utterly brilliant
chewinggum2001 1 year ago
I have stood Hegel on his feet - Marx
MrChizzle99 1 year ago
Really good. They really put this on tv. Wow. What has happened. History channel has really gone down hill. Sigh
olympicstyles 1 year ago
thanks, gr8 work!
choubeyji 1 year ago
Hegel and Marx are the best philosophers ever.
Beingmeansliberty 1 year ago
c.s pierce said that what works is the truth. marxism is not true because it was a terrible failure from practical point of view.
mrfatd 1 year ago
'what works is the truth' is the lowest form of justificatlon for what is. And what is, isnt necessary, it is contingent and based on the often irrational developpement of history. Saying that the capitalist human condition has accomplished truth is pathetic and ideological. Thats why Hegel was ridiculed when he spoke about Prussia. Anyway, the intellectual depth of pragmatism is questionable.
frogbuster20 1 year ago
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frogbuster20 1 year ago
auguste comte?
Rico8458 1 year ago
Hegelian philosophy failed especially after the Darwinian theory. Thanks flame0430
sonny19xx 1 year ago
yes sir. but i think marx can be considered the father of modern day sociology
Rico8458 1 year ago
durkheim and max weber are fathers of sociology.
NOT marx, stop makin up nonsense
mrfatd 1 year ago
@mrfatd - Marx made a undeniable contribution to sociology, its called materialism.
frogbuster20 1 year ago
lol marx did not make a contribution of bringing materialism to sociology, materialism was introduced into philosophy long long before him, for example hobbes was a materialist. what you should have said was dialectic materialism, an accursed doctrine whose 'contribution to sociology' that it took lives of 100 million ppl
mrfatd 1 year ago
@mrfatd - Ridiculous. Marx is a must read for anyone who has respect for culture, and not only to tie him to Stalin. Of course, his idea of communism isnt acceptable in the light of what happened in the 20th century, but he was a man of his time, he couldnt have predicted the gulags. His thought is much deeper than the cliches you stole from your patriotic daddy. Thats why he is tought in any serious school
- not english, spelling bad
frogbuster20 1 year ago
@mrfatd - And you are right about materialism, it started with the greeks. But if you dont see how historical materialism contributed to sociology, I suggest reading a book
frogbuster20 1 year ago
@frogbuster20 You are mistaken about materialism. It really started when a fucking neanderthal wished to have the best hammer so as to bang more women. It started with sex itself, motherfucker. Men wish more to fuck more. It`s simple as this. That`s why your girlfriend would surely prefer to be fucked by me instead of you, little bastard.
eltucanmamero 1 year ago
@eltucanmamero - youre the closest thing to a neanderthal.
frogbuster20 1 year ago
@eltucanmamero jajaja hasta en ingles puteas?? no dejas en paz a nadie pibe, comprate una vida!
rufohot 1 year ago
@rufohot La justicia no tiene idioma, imbecil. Y por favor, dejà de perseguirme. Si tu idea es seguir mintièndote, allà vos, pero no me acuses de no tener vida por decir la verdad.
eltucanmamero 1 year ago
@eltucanmamero es tu verdad no la mia..... conseguite una vida!
rufohot 1 year ago
@rufohot Oìme Marta. Si querès formar mi club de fans, adelante. Pero eximime de tener que ver tu miserable presencia, gordo sodomita. Toda misiva la contestarè vìa correo. No sos el ùnico fracasado que me persigue, ya tienen un nùmero considerable de pelotudos, de los cuales creo que podrìas ser sin duda el lìder. Cualidades no te faltan retrasado mental. Te recomiendo nutrir tu seso con otra cosa que no sea la pelotudez habitual que te circunda y domina, hijo de una gran puta. He dicho....
eltucanmamero 1 year ago
@eltucanmamero pero que altura para contestar!! jajaja Frustradito
rufohot 1 year ago
@rufohot Ya conseguiste personerìa, o estas tramitando, boludo alegre ? Mirà que pertenecer tiene sus privilegios...Por ser el lìder de mi club de fans, vas a tener el honor de recibir diez puntinazos en el orto...de parte mìa !!! Sè que vas a disfrutar como loca, y eso es solo el principio. Puedo hasta empernarme a tu vieja mientras miràs admirado...No te voy a defraudar.
eltucanmamero 1 year ago
@eltucanmamero dudo que sea el lider de tu grupo de Fans, es Demaciado amplio, No gasto polvora en chimangos, solo en frustraditos
rufohot 1 year ago
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frogbuster20 1 year ago
@mrfatd actually marx, weber, and durkheim are the fathers of the social sciences according to Stanford Encyclopedia
all three are great (not a fan of Marx's communist manifesto though im a fan of modern neo-marxism such as the frankfurt school of erich fromm) still marx was a great intellectual
we can't blame marx for the deaths of 20th century communist just as how we can't blame Christianity/Martin Luther's Protestant movement for jewish holocaust, it;s illogical
andyx1205 1 year ago
not more democracy but more freedom. democracy is not freedom. today no senator or rep votes for the people even the people voted for them.
Rico8458 1 year ago 25
@Rico8458 I think this is unsubstantiated and overly cynical. "No senator or rep votes for the people" I interpret to mean that none vote in the interest of the people. But surely it is rational to assume, statistically, that some probably do.
Regarding freedom and democracy, one does not appreciate the connection between the two when one lives in a democracy. Democracy is government by consensus. Your and my opinions mixed with those of our fellow citizens matter. That's freedom.
mc0558 1 year ago
@Rico8458
Representative Democracy is not freedom, but Direct Democracy is probably as close as we can get.
TheWALOS 1 year ago
@Rico8458 But you're talking about a Representitive Democracy. A Pure Democracy wouldn't have that problem. Though I do admit, it would still have it's own flaws.
Sloth7d 1 year ago
@Rico8458 the problem then is not of democracy but a lack of it! freedom and democracy are inextricable.
jerk4990 11 months ago
@Rico8458 America is not a democracy. America is a representative democracy.
du4l1ty 8 months ago
@Rico8458 EU democracy is like the democracy from the former DDR: it's camouflage for their dictatorship.
iownage4youi 4 months ago
marx is the father of sociology.
Rico8458 1 year ago 20
@Rico8458 well . . . there were many thinkers before Marx that wrote on sociological subjects or gave historical events a sociological twist. Tocqueville, Clarendon and even Thyucdides to name three.
mc0558 1 year ago
@Rico8458 comte...
spawk1993 1 year ago
@Rico8458 and therefore sociology is a understandably a pathetic discipline dominated by socialists with little regard for the scientific method
jbowes2 11 months ago
@Rico8458 I believe you mean Auguste Comte is the father of sociology, or at least that seems to be the general consensus in academia. However, YouTube Philosophers generally have there own agenda. Perhaps you are being facetious (along with the other commenters in flame0430's video. After all, there is no way you are all really this stupid?)
niittymakifan1 11 months ago
@Rico8458 alongside Webber and Durkheim, say.
josipml5 9 months ago
@Rico8458 Well he's not really. But he is a very very important member of sociology. The most famous by far.
ghandi8749 9 months ago
@Rico8458 hey that's Max Weber right? Marx is the dad of socialism
clausren 7 months ago
@Rico8458 Arguably. Think some may say that Weber is the father of sociology.
luketaeschler 4 months ago
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codadilupo83 1 year ago
Peter Singer looks so much like a serial rapist in this video that it's very distracting.
OinopsPontos 1 year ago
@OinopsPontos lol...it's funny because it's true.
AdPrimum 1 year ago
@OinopsPontos Dude i'm really high and that was really hilarious.
jesusluvr07 1 year ago
he rapes the minds of young philosophy undergrads
greenghost2008 1 year ago
Thank you so much for putting this up!
ANDREWSABAT 1 year ago 2
I recall grumbling and dismissive reactions to Peter Singer's worth as a philosopher and to his interpretation of Hegel... but not specifically why. Anybody? What's Singer so wrong about w/ Hegel?
S2Cents 1 year ago
today das capital explains the current federal reserve system, and banks, and goldman sachs of the world today. we working drones suffer . lol no bail out for the working man in america.
Rico8458 2 years ago 2
erm wrong. that is not capitalism but rather keynesianism and corporatism. Which is facism and promotes an elitism. So in other words the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.
If it was capitalism, there would be no bail out. It would be 100% personal responsability
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
Your idea of capitalism is one that has never existed and will never exist. The free market will never result in perfect competition among equal producers. The self-regulating market is a fantasy. The only way to ensure that the market economy fulfills its social purpose is through regulation on behalf of the people. The solution to our over-corporatized, fascist system is more democracy not less.
roserh6 1 year ago 2
really? Perhaps looking up the economy at Hong Kong will help you learn a bit more of capitalism.
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
I know about the economy of Hong Kong.
roserh6 1 year ago
did you know that Hong Kong has government run healthcare? education? roads? infrastructure? anyways, they do have a very "free" economy which has created a lot of wealth at the top and Hong Kong has one of the highest gini coefficients of any developed nation.
roserh6 1 year ago
Hong Kong is a haven for multinational corporations. I thought you were against those?
roserh6 1 year ago
"The self-regulating market is a fantasy"
As was pointed out by Adam Smith. I have no idea how this fantasy has managed to get itself so widely believed.
23discordians 1 year ago
marx, wow, more harm has been done in his name than any devil can imagine. what a shame.
Rico8458 2 years ago
Ok...I'm a hack at philosophy...Why do they avoid the obvious word, "culture?"
Is there some sort of stigma attached to the acceptance of "culture" in mainstream philosophy?
I'd prefer someone with a specialty in the subject answer.
I'm really curious.
caltrop69 2 years ago
I think it's purely accidental that they do not use that word. It's really a very good translation for what Hegel calls "Geist". There are only two reasons I can think of to avoid it:
(1) Hegel distinguishes between "objektiver Geist" und "subjektiver Geist". While the first term does refer to culture, the second refers to individual people's conscious thoughts. However, it would be rather odd to call the latter "subjective culture" in English.
langengro 2 years ago
(2) We usually think of culture as something that is pluralistic: There is just one human nature, but there are many cultures. The Hegelian Geist, however, is a singular term. While there is something he calls Volksgeister (the mentalities of different peoples), he regards those as transitory manifestations of one single human Geist which unfolds itself through history in a logically necessary way. In this respect then, the concept of Geist is closer to human nature than to culture.
langengro 2 years ago
Thank you...That actually makes perfect sense, considering this video...
Perhaps the reason they were avoiding the use of the word is that it didn't translate smoothly and would detract from their discussion?
caltrop69 2 years ago
The word "culture" is practically meaningless; I don't think they're intentionally avoiding it as much as that there's really no reason to use a word as vague as "culture," ever.
cmbodayle 2 years ago
Well there's an informed opinion.
caltrop69 2 years ago
Did you want someone with a specialty in the subject of the word "culture" or with a specialty in philosophy?
I have the former and I do not think the latter exists although I have had, interestingly enough, many interesting run-ins with the word "culture" over the years.
cmbodayle 2 years ago
The first of these was a pseudo-intellectual who thought he was being Socratic by posing the question "do we need a culture?" to myself and a colleague. Obviously, this question is both meaningless and absurd. My colleague and I made it an inside joke for a while.
cmbodayle 2 years ago
In the various discussions I've had with other philosophers since then, I've found that it is best to simply avoid using the word "culture" in a broad sense because it lacks any precision whatsoever, a view shared by many of these philosophers I've encountered over the years.
cmbodayle 2 years ago
I take my former response back. Actually, that was very useful. Is there some sort of bridge between anthropology and philosophy then? I absolutely understand how contextual it is.
I would imagine that, since "culture" is universal in so few things, that it couldn't be universal in a science of metaphysics.
Some actually make the argument that perception changes according to culture. I find that hard to believe...But, again...I'm no expert.
caltrop69 2 years ago
combine sophistry with schizophrenia and u get hegelry
mrfatd 2 years ago
Great video, many thanks for the upoload
twelthraisin 2 years ago
Who knew that Peter Singer, my philosophical hero who introduced me to veganism, would also save my butt in my philosophy class on hegel?
WormyWyrm 2 years ago 2
Thinking is being and being is thinking.
Spirit is Matter and Matter is Spirit, and all oposition reconciles in the ABSOLUTE, whereupon no word can be spoken. Taking away thinking in the world mean the upheval of being - the World - which is impossible - and for this reason thinking is eternal and my personal temporal existens is a moment in the eternal thinking or Spirit. The Death is an illusion like the REALITY of the wave in the sea IS THE SEA, not the individual temporal wave...
birlisa1 2 years ago
An amusing parody of Hegel-speak.
chel3SEY 2 years ago
Thank you. lol
birlisa1 2 years ago
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birlisa1 2 years ago
Thank you for posting these videos!
matsugo24 2 years ago 2
Can any one tell me which philosopher best evaluated the impact of technology on the human condition, an individual's thinking and our freedoms?
TripolarProductions 2 years ago
heidegger
sars1502 2 years ago
And Marcuse.
codadilupo83 2 years ago
Fichte and Hegel...
"Theirs is a revealed philosophy. It is the heir of Judaism. It could never have been founded by free observation of life and nature, like the philosophy of Greece or of the Renaissance. It is Protestant theology rationalized." -- George Santayana
neothomist1275 2 years ago
>"It is the heir of Judaism."
In light of Marx, ROFL
barrywinehousexp 2 years ago
They sure don't make shows like this anymore...
Fuck the NWO.
321lawc 2 years ago
Cool story, bro.
NihilistTerrorist 2 years ago
Untergang des Abendlandes Christentum und Sozialismus: eine Auseinandersetzung mit Oswald Spengler
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
Individual conscience had risen to its heights in Protestant Europe only to be eviscerated in the bedlam of the French Revolution.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
"The State is God's March on Earth."
-Hegel.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
Is this the same Peter Singer who advocates for Animal Liberation?
radiofuse 2 years ago
Well, Hegel's philosophy is a failure. Actually very unfortunately Nietzsche's philosophy ,had been more successful .THANKS flame0430
sonny19xx 2 years ago
Why doesn't the BBC make shows like this anymore? Because Britain is full of fucking morons who are more interested in Jordan and Peter Andre!
BRIGSTOCK 2 years ago
I really like the host.. like like..
NEDM1991 2 years ago 2
wow, TV used to be good.
christophercoltrane 2 years ago 41
You cannot learn anything from television anymore.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
@christophercoltrane Well said; now if you want something on TV that challenges the brain you have to stay up until about 0300 for Open University. Sure, in the past there was poor-quality, lowest common denominator buuble-gum for the eyes, but there does appear to be some broadcasters out there who trusted the audience to handle something other than sport or celebrity tit-fests. Or maybe we're just wearing rose-tinted glasses.
ikkoikki 1 year ago
with hegelry, not only you can prove the existense of god, show that history has a purpose, demonstrate the holiness of the state, but also unite all of universe, math, science, art, religion and philosophy into SPIRIT which unfolds itself within itself for itself
mrfatd 2 years ago 3
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masterermac 2 years ago
Hi,
I enjoyed your comment about Hegel's Spirit. Maybe you have studied Hegel's works?
Timurito1 2 years ago
i have. read the intro to that so-called phenomenology of spirit, and its mind-stupefying nonsemse unlike anything else written in f philosophy, its just a diary of a schizophrenic madman
mrfatd 2 years ago
Maybe you could recommend some useful books in order to grasp hegel and write some recommendations how to get into Hegel' thought? thank You in advance.
Timurito1 2 years ago
sorry but i havent read any books on this genius. to get in to his thought you must understand how to dialectically unfold the spirit in freedom of the State. why? because the truth is the whole!
mrfatd 2 years ago
Check out Genesis and Structure of Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit by Jean Hyppolite. If you have both side by side it helps
grazzum 2 years ago
LOL at 10:30 Peter Singer tells the reporter about the German word for holy ghost, which the reporter immediately says aloud, and is commended by Singer who says "good" in German..u can see him SMIRK!!
q8venom 2 years ago
question to anyone that knows: is the hegelian dialectic just a melding of multiple different views?
ilovesatan66 2 years ago
In a way yes. And the process is going toward freedom.
Timurito1 2 years ago
hmm..what makes you think "the process is going toward freedom"?? I believe this is one of the things that Hegel was wrong about...
chaniwie 2 years ago
I don't see it as having anything to do with freedom either. Seems more like a technique for subversion.
ilovesatan66 2 years ago
what do you mean??
chaniwie 2 years ago
Me too if we understand freedom as responsobility of being yourself. But the world is going towards freedom in this sense: right for animal, rights for gay, rights for children. Soon in 50 years the world will give rights for incest, zoophilia, sex from 14, rights for plants and so on.
Timurito1 2 years ago
haha ok.
chaniwie 2 years ago
Someone mentioned Hegel today in defense of gay rights. And while I agree with gay rights I disagree with the entire Hegelian way of thinking. We are marching towards freedom to what end? Sex from 14 was perfectly acceptable not 200 years ago. Incest was the norm in royal families for thousands of years. My problem with Hegel's theories is when people apply them to EVERYTHING when his ideas are so not blanket theories for how the world works and will work.
destroyer841 2 years ago 3
You have to think freedom not as it is in the common sense. Hegel thinks the freedom as Bruno or Spinoza: the perfect union of necessity and freedom. The freedom of the individual is abstract and so not true - the true is the total, but the total is only the essence that completes itself by the its own development.
codadilupo83 2 years ago
no. its true that Hegel did borrow alot of his ideas from the Greeks & asians but he has his own system..and its big.
chaniwie 2 years ago
Hegel was a son of his time: he cames from Illuminism, Kant, and romantic thought. But, for the genesis of dialectic, we have to see to 2 fondamental works: Sophist (Plato) and Ethic (Spinoza - Omnis determinatio est negatio).
codadilupo83 2 years ago
kant was right
chaniwie 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this! :D
GeraldP1983 2 years ago
GW Stace's book entitled Hegel is the best book you can read in order to comprehend Hegel's philosophy.
fomastephanovitch 2 years ago
I think Stace`s book is a typically anglo-saxon interpretation of hegel. That means far away from Hegel`s text. It is suffice to see that he uses the mith of thesis-antithesis and sinthesis, which is really bulshit, hegel never used those words. Hartmann and kaufmann showed that it is not pertinent with hegel`s philosophy
tiamattiamatre 2 years ago