Habeas Corpus only solves half the problem. No real defense can ever be given unless you also have the right to face your accuser or to have evidence of an individual or individual victims. No victim = no crime. Until there is an individual victim or evidence leading to an individual victim you can never put up a defense. If an individual kills a group of people then that person gets judged on each individual count of murder. Why should the case be different in any other situation?
Habeus Corpus was a half baked idea to being with. Yes, you should have the right to have YOUR body present in court in a case against you, but no real defense can ever be given unless you also have the right to face your accuser or to have evidence of an individual or individual victims. No victim = no crime. Until there is an individual victim or evidence leading to an individual victim you can never put up a defense. Other then that it's up to you vs. the conflicting interest of the State.
The Bush and Obama administrations have no respect for the Citizens of America or people of the world.
Habeas Corpus is a God Given right by our founders so even the prisoners in Gitmo have that right ... the secret side of the federal govt does not want it's dirty laundry in public so we must crap on people's god given rights to protect the CIA, NSA and other organizations that hurt our world more than help it.
14th amendment made us subjects ... we are slaves since, not FREEMEN!
Stupid video, the Constitution does not give rights. It specifically states that Habeas Corpus is a PRIVILEDGE and under what circumstances it may be suspended. NON Citizens do not enjoy our Constitution. Fuck 'em.
@HereinLasVegas I'm not even from the US but I understand that the amendments to the constitution as spelt out in article 5 of the constitution "shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution". Given that the first 10 amendments are known as the bill of rights you are wrong and most probably an idiot. The constitution most certainly does give rights. Anyway looking specifically at your point, the privilege "shall not be suspended" is a right, obviously!! Go to school.
@fixdreamer Obviously, you are not from the US nor do you have any undersstanding of its foundation. The premise of our Country is that God gave us inalienablerights as humans, OUR Government is established wit the provision to protect those rights with the consent of the Governed. The 5th as you quoted does not exist.....and you call me an idiot.Our Constitution garantees rights, it does not give them...rights come from God,
@HereinLasVegas Sorry for calling you an idiot I am an idiot for doing so, I was very wrong and very rude. I absolutely agree with your point. The declaration states "they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights" and that is the basis as you say. I was a bit drunk last night and feeling arrogant, I shall curb that next time. Sorry @HereinLasVegas. If you don't mind me asking what did you mean by the 5th article of your constitution not existing? It is there.
@fixdreamer First, let me say that I am overwhelmed by your decency and honesty. It is a trait that is sadly lacking in this world today, especially on the Internet. Thank you very much! The 5th Amendment does indeed exist, it just doesn't contain this part as your stated "shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution". To tell you the truth, I don't even think thowe words are in the Constitution at all. What Country are you from?
@fixdreamer LOL...maybe I'm an idiot after all. When you wrote Article 5, I assumed you really meant the 5th Amendment. I thought that because you were not American you used the wrong terminology. Anyway, Article 5 deals with Amendments and does contain the words you quoted. I'm appreciative of the conversation as it gave me the opportunity to learn something. Now if we could only get our Government to live within the contraints of the Constitution.
@HereinLasVegas Lol I had a feeling you thought that I meant amendment, not to worry you were still right. It is only because I have been researching your constitution for my website that I know any of the details. I'm afraid I am from the country slagged in the declaration-England. Nice talking to you I'm glad we both learnt something :) I fear both our countries really don't respect their constituions and see them as merely something to work around. But at least yours is beautifully written :)
@fixdreamer Great chatting with you too! I think your opinion of what our Govenments think of our freedoms is spot on too. Hey, when you get your site finished send me a link, I'd be happy to see it!
We can never find justice at the hands of corrupt judges. (See youtube videos) Judge To Judge On Illegal_Payments To Judges---Evil Triangle of Court Corruption---Richard Fine---Dr shirley Moore---SBX 211. Now is the time to be heard. The fight to end this title wave of corruption in our country must start with the corrupt judges. Show your support now or wait untill your fate is at the hands of corrupt judges. can someone help to start a grand jury investigation against L.A. county judges
@drugwarisevil I agree, none of these were good reasons to suspend peoples rights. During the Revolutionary war the British empire was trying to "preserve the union" of the Empire. States have the right to fire the federal government by succeeding.
PART 4: The suspension of habeas corpus within a jurisdiction must not have any impact on citizens of other jurisdictions, otherwise such jurisdiction sees itself as superordinated, overriding all other ones around the world and especially in occupied countries - what is not acceptable in a civilized world and must not be reachable by the "veto" or any other mechanism.
PART 3: Imagine that e.g. Chinese would do exactly the same with U.S. citizen, importing them to from their homes or third-party states (where they work e.g. as journalists) to Chinese jurisdiction, and - of course - expose
them to waterboarding or other kinds of torture. Would it be still perceived by U.S. government as acceptable and opposed only in a passive way due to Chinese vetoes in U.N. security council?
PART 2: This is a bullshit which Americans can only defend thanks to their military power.
Imagine that e.g. Chinese would do exactly the same with U.S. citizen, importing them to from their homes or third-party states (where they work e.g. as journalists) to Chinese jurisdiction, and - of course - expose them to waterboarding or other kinds of torture. Would it be still perceived by U.S. government as acceptable and opposed only in a passive way due to Chinese vetoes in U.N. security council?
This is why Democracy is completly retarded in a case like this. I believe we should go back to having a Republic where politicains where actually bound and could be imprision by laws,law of which not tinkerd with.....
I know i am not totaly following what your saying but we did not waterboard the Japanese ppl and there wasn't liek a whole country full at that time. Americans all over the world are tortured by the enemy even today. Remember the Mexicans in China were recently rounded up if you will and islolated due to the flu in Mexicao. ppl react to the fears in the world even possibility of spying. As an american having been in other countries I was aware I was being watched soem of the time. u neva know
Since civil citizens of other states are being kidnapped from their homes in their own domiciles and forwarded to Guantanamo, where they are then defined as "noncitizen, unlawful enemy combatants", there is nobody in the world except U.S. citizens who could not match this definition when kidnapped and "delivered"
into this hostile jurisdiction which sees itself by allowing such "import" of detainees as an authority NOT confined to a bounded space, but ruling the whole territory of Earth.
Article Five of the Constitution spells it out: "The Congress, whenever two-thirds of both Houses [the House and the Senate] shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution . . ." States were also given a chance to propose changes, or amendments. Three-fourths of the states have to approve the amendment for it to become law.
History has already viewed Bush's suspension of HC as a mistake. In Hamdan v Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court said Guantanamo detainees retain their Habeas Corpus rights. Military Commissions, sans HC rights, are unconstitutional.
Habeas Corpus only solves half the problem. No real defense can ever be given unless you also have the right to face your accuser or to have evidence of an individual or individual victims. No victim = no crime. Until there is an individual victim or evidence leading to an individual victim you can never put up a defense. If an individual kills a group of people then that person gets judged on each individual count of murder. Why should the case be different in any other situation?
yinzjagoffs 2 weeks ago
STOP THE NDAA!
lennyfloss 2 months ago
bye--bye ...no more...government for the corporations....and the 1%....
garraper 2 months ago
Your freedom is in peril in the name 'security'. Protect it with all your might!
tahir630247365 2 months ago
thank you, this video was so helpful in understanding Habeas Corpus, and when the suspensions have occurred.
dohardthinger 2 months ago
Habeus Corpus was a half baked idea to being with. Yes, you should have the right to have YOUR body present in court in a case against you, but no real defense can ever be given unless you also have the right to face your accuser or to have evidence of an individual or individual victims. No victim = no crime. Until there is an individual victim or evidence leading to an individual victim you can never put up a defense. Other then that it's up to you vs. the conflicting interest of the State.
yinzjagoffs 3 months ago
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yinzjagoffs 3 months ago
The Bush and Obama administrations have no respect for the Citizens of America or people of the world.
Habeas Corpus is a God Given right by our founders so even the prisoners in Gitmo have that right ... the secret side of the federal govt does not want it's dirty laundry in public so we must crap on people's god given rights to protect the CIA, NSA and other organizations that hurt our world more than help it.
14th amendment made us subjects ... we are slaves since, not FREEMEN!
ben5017 5 months ago
Stupid video, the Constitution does not give rights. It specifically states that Habeas Corpus is a PRIVILEDGE and under what circumstances it may be suspended. NON Citizens do not enjoy our Constitution. Fuck 'em.
HereinLasVegas 5 months ago
@HereinLasVegas I'm not even from the US but I understand that the amendments to the constitution as spelt out in article 5 of the constitution "shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution". Given that the first 10 amendments are known as the bill of rights you are wrong and most probably an idiot. The constitution most certainly does give rights. Anyway looking specifically at your point, the privilege "shall not be suspended" is a right, obviously!! Go to school.
fixdreamer 3 weeks ago
@fixdreamer Obviously, you are not from the US nor do you have any undersstanding of its foundation. The premise of our Country is that God gave us inalienablerights as humans, OUR Government is established wit the provision to protect those rights with the consent of the Governed. The 5th as you quoted does not exist.....and you call me an idiot.Our Constitution garantees rights, it does not give them...rights come from God,
HereinLasVegas 3 weeks ago
@HereinLasVegas Sorry for calling you an idiot I am an idiot for doing so, I was very wrong and very rude. I absolutely agree with your point. The declaration states "they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights" and that is the basis as you say. I was a bit drunk last night and feeling arrogant, I shall curb that next time. Sorry @HereinLasVegas. If you don't mind me asking what did you mean by the 5th article of your constitution not existing? It is there.
fixdreamer 3 weeks ago
@fixdreamer First, let me say that I am overwhelmed by your decency and honesty. It is a trait that is sadly lacking in this world today, especially on the Internet. Thank you very much! The 5th Amendment does indeed exist, it just doesn't contain this part as your stated "shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution". To tell you the truth, I don't even think thowe words are in the Constitution at all. What Country are you from?
HereinLasVegas 3 weeks ago
@fixdreamer LOL...maybe I'm an idiot after all. When you wrote Article 5, I assumed you really meant the 5th Amendment. I thought that because you were not American you used the wrong terminology. Anyway, Article 5 deals with Amendments and does contain the words you quoted. I'm appreciative of the conversation as it gave me the opportunity to learn something. Now if we could only get our Government to live within the contraints of the Constitution.
HereinLasVegas 3 weeks ago
@HereinLasVegas Lol I had a feeling you thought that I meant amendment, not to worry you were still right. It is only because I have been researching your constitution for my website that I know any of the details. I'm afraid I am from the country slagged in the declaration-England. Nice talking to you I'm glad we both learnt something :) I fear both our countries really don't respect their constituions and see them as merely something to work around. But at least yours is beautifully written :)
fixdreamer 3 weeks ago
@fixdreamer Great chatting with you too! I think your opinion of what our Govenments think of our freedoms is spot on too. Hey, when you get your site finished send me a link, I'd be happy to see it!
HereinLasVegas 3 weeks ago
@HereinLasVegas Hey, cool I will do, thanks :)
fixdreamer 3 weeks ago
Free the Japanese, i want their sushis!!! Fuck the Arabian Terrorists, i want them to be punished for the attack of the Twin Towers (WTC)
nastenkakoza1 6 months ago
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We can never find justice at the hands of corrupt judges. (See youtube videos) Judge To Judge On Illegal_Payments To Judges---Evil Triangle of Court Corruption---Richard Fine---Dr shirley Moore---SBX 211. Now is the time to be heard. The fight to end this title wave of corruption in our country must start with the corrupt judges. Show your support now or wait untill your fate is at the hands of corrupt judges. can someone help to start a grand jury investigation against L.A. county judges
danielcooper1000 1 year ago
Wonderful video! I think Ignite, though aimed at children, is actually a pretty good way for older folks to brush-up on some forgotten knowledge.
b1gr1g 1 year ago
Every example cited of a suspension of habeas corpus was an example of a horrible miscarriage of justice.
drugwarisevil 1 year ago
@drugwarisevil I agree, none of these were good reasons to suspend peoples rights. During the Revolutionary war the British empire was trying to "preserve the union" of the Empire. States have the right to fire the federal government by succeeding.
ronwandell 8 months ago
@ronwandell it's seceding not succeeding.
HAPL0GR0UP 3 months ago
this is very helpful!! thank you!!
adobongsiopao 1 year ago
This is the educational software that $23 million buys?
"Is our children learning?"
Not with crap like this, they aren't.
tiredoflies 2 years ago
ha ha ha the irony of your statement is hilarious!
genipha4life 2 years ago
@tiredoflies *Are
IsItTheBagel 10 months ago
OH MAH GOD SO INFORMATIVE!!!
DarcyK590131 2 years ago
PART 4: The suspension of habeas corpus within a jurisdiction must not have any impact on citizens of other jurisdictions, otherwise such jurisdiction sees itself as superordinated, overriding all other ones around the world and especially in occupied countries - what is not acceptable in a civilized world and must not be reachable by the "veto" or any other mechanism.
blacksunway 3 years ago 2
PART 3: Imagine that e.g. Chinese would do exactly the same with U.S. citizen, importing them to from their homes or third-party states (where they work e.g. as journalists) to Chinese jurisdiction, and - of course - expose
them to waterboarding or other kinds of torture. Would it be still perceived by U.S. government as acceptable and opposed only in a passive way due to Chinese vetoes in U.N. security council?
blacksunway 3 years ago 4
PART 2: This is a bullshit which Americans can only defend thanks to their military power.
Imagine that e.g. Chinese would do exactly the same with U.S. citizen, importing them to from their homes or third-party states (where they work e.g. as journalists) to Chinese jurisdiction, and - of course - expose them to waterboarding or other kinds of torture. Would it be still perceived by U.S. government as acceptable and opposed only in a passive way due to Chinese vetoes in U.N. security council?
blacksunway 3 years ago 2
This is why Democracy is completly retarded in a case like this. I believe we should go back to having a Republic where politicains where actually bound and could be imprision by laws,law of which not tinkerd with.....
Harpenboper 2 years ago 6
@Harpenboper ......I totyally agree with u!!!
valteztelpharaoh 8 months ago
I know i am not totaly following what your saying but we did not waterboard the Japanese ppl and there wasn't liek a whole country full at that time. Americans all over the world are tortured by the enemy even today. Remember the Mexicans in China were recently rounded up if you will and islolated due to the flu in Mexicao. ppl react to the fears in the world even possibility of spying. As an american having been in other countries I was aware I was being watched soem of the time. u neva know
ZzzINSIGHTzzZ 2 years ago
Since civil citizens of other states are being kidnapped from their homes in their own domiciles and forwarded to Guantanamo, where they are then defined as "noncitizen, unlawful enemy combatants", there is nobody in the world except U.S. citizens who could not match this definition when kidnapped and "delivered"
into this hostile jurisdiction which sees itself by allowing such "import" of detainees as an authority NOT confined to a bounded space, but ruling the whole territory of Earth.
blacksunway 3 years ago
Cool video. Thanks for posting.
reformedfruit 4 years ago
Whoops! This video must be out of date.
Angrynight 4 years ago 7
@Angrynight rofl.
XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX 6 months ago
Article Five of the Constitution spells it out: "The Congress, whenever two-thirds of both Houses [the House and the Senate] shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution . . ." States were also given a chance to propose changes, or amendments. Three-fourths of the states have to approve the amendment for it to become law.
The writ of Habeas Corpus Stands!!
ddsharper 4 years ago 2
History has already viewed Bush's suspension of HC as a mistake. In Hamdan v Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court said Guantanamo detainees retain their Habeas Corpus rights. Military Commissions, sans HC rights, are unconstitutional.
voiyour 5 years ago