i note the head speaker of the pro carbon tax rally was the getup founder stooge
man made global warming is a hoax , it's all a scam designed to bring in more tax revenue for the united nations.10% of Australias carbon tax goes directly to the UN.
A price on pollution is excellent. Tax breaks for non polluting business.
Only looser of inaction would be future generations who loose out from devastating consequences from pollution and outrageously expensive costs of keeping dirty, polluting methods of producing electricity. This is the 21st Century where we have a plethora of abundant sources of natural, clean and renewable sources of energy that we can harness to make electricity.
@kaieteurdevon ***a price on pollution is excellent. Tax breaks for non polluting business***
Carbon dioxide's not a pollutant, greenie. It's essential for life on Earth. How much will taxing the fuel and electricity used by ordinary Australians bring down global carbon dioxide emissions? I dare you to answer that directly.
@downriggershop Tax incentives for business that don’t pollute obviously help reduce pollution.
If you are of the cult that chants “They call it pollution, we call it life” there is no hope for you. People like that are nonsensical and blind followers of fossil fuel propaganda. /watch?v=0_VmMIbWKoo
@downriggershop well for someone who claims to be a christian in the fred nile party you sure do like to insult people and pick fights if they dont agree with your arrogant redneck attetude. you just think your better than everyone and everything, and wildfires have been part of the world for billions of years, but you of course have to blame "greenies" for everything. what a hypocrite is this what the fred nile party likes to do? Get on youtube and shitstir>?
@kaieteurdevon Keep the BS coming, greenie. The proposed tax on carbon dioxide has already destroyed the political careers of Turnbull, Rudd and Gillard. It's a poisoned chalice for the metro Left so please, drink deeply.
@downriggershop All children want a cleaner, less polluted planet to inherit. Numbskulls that keep winging they want to continue polluting the biosphere are pathetic, they don’t deserve a say in the future. Most adults with intellect agree cutting pollution is a good thing, thank goodness some Australian politicians have the foresight to bring in this pollution tax.
@kaieteurdevon ***all children want a cleaner, less polluted planet to inherit***
Only the technology supplied by capitalism and free enterprise can provide that, greenie. The downside is that it also provides the opportunity for spoilt middle class wankers like yourself to pontificate ad infinitum. As to the carbon dioxide tax, bring it on. Australians will vote for those who oppose it.
@downriggershop People like you that live in a dream world of causing more pollution into infinity are a depressed lot. Get a grip with reality. Putting a stop to pollution with taxation is exactly the capitalism and free enterprise that you talk about and yes it will also encourage a change to cleaner, more efficient technology. Luckily most Australians care about their children’s future enjoyment of our biosphere.
Your foul mouth weak insults show your lack of intellect.
@kaieteurdevon ***it will also encourage a change to cleaner, more efficient technology***
More taxes don't encourage anything, greenie. They only make energy - and everything else - more expensive. Learn some basic economics before you bloviate agitprop.
@downriggershop Pollution taxes makes polluting technology more expensive, that’s great! They may not like it at first, but that’s life. We are all addicted to energy so will continue to produce it from clean renewable technologies. It doesn’t take a genius to work it out.
The end result will be less pollution, who in there right mind would disagree. Your arguments are empty and nonsensical.
SMH May 29, 2011: A rally organised by the Youth Climate Coalition in Martin Place yesterday was expected to attract more than 300 people but barely 50 took part.
For the carbon dioxide tax - middle class uni students, who've never done a day's work in their lives. And lonely old ladies, living with three cats who 'want to make a difference.'
Against the carbon dioxide tax- average working Aussies.
Hey, greenies - bring it on! it's already destroyed the political careers of Turnbull and Rudd, Gillard will make a nice troika.
@downriggershop There is no such thing as greenies (as you call them) vs dirty polluters, it is all US. We are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted and ALL responsible for its clear up. Tax incentives to stop pollution are a great thing for all future generations, both financially from job creation and environmentally from less pollution for them to deal with.
@kaieteurdevon ***We are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted and ALL responsible for its clear up***
If we're all responsible, explain how a carbon dioxide tax in Australia will fix this. From Wired magazine:
If China’s carbon usage keeps pace with its economic growth, the country’s carbon dioxide emissions will reach 8 gigatons a year by 2030, which is equal to the entire world’s CO2 production today.
@downriggershop We are living in an interconnected world. Pollution recognises NO boundaries. All countries around the globe are addressing pollution, some better than others.
@kaieteurdevon ***we are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted and ALL responsible for its clear up***
China, USA, Russia and India are responsible. Australia's share is 0.01%. Much less than that, if you deduct the carbon dioxide produced by wildfires due to national parks' mismanagement.
@downriggershop It’s a fallacy to blame a country for pollution that we are all responsible for, all emit and all face the consequences of. Especially naive to blame manufacturing countries used by others as a cheap place to import goods from eg, computers, mobile phones, clothes, transport etc.
Most of us are still responsible for burning fossil fuels 24/7 pumping billions of tons of pollutants into the air. Taxing that pollution will make people think twice before they pollute.
@downriggershop If one person plants a tree, it may seem to some people insignificant, if 22 million people plant a tree, most people would be rightly impressed.
If one person reduces their pollution its fairly insignificant if 22 million people reduce their pollution that’s a lot less pollution.
Its not about blame, it’s about looking forward, we are all responsible for pollution and clearing it up. Australia imports and exports huge amounts of ‘stuff’, it is a global player.
@kaieteurdevon ***we are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted***
We are not equally responsible. The most avoidable generator of carbon dioxide is wildfires in national parks, caused by greenies' opposition to hazard reduction burning.
@downriggershop The most obvious, staring us all in the face obvious, way of reducing pollution is to stop burning dirty fossil fuels ASAP. Hence a pollution tax to help make businesses clean up there act and encourage us ALL to make clean, renewable energy choices.
Wildfires are bad for our environment and devastating for any humans affected.
You blame others for problems you see, far too easily. You too have an impact on this planet, for good or for bad.
@kaieteurdevon ***obvious, way of reducing pollution is to stop burning dirty fossil fuels***
LOL. How is taxing the fuel and groceries Aussies buy going to fix that, while China builds a coal burning electricity plant every week? You greenies need to put down the bong and spend some time in the real world.
@downriggershop Its not rocket science it’s really easy to understand.
Giving tax incentives to companies that do not pollute our future, rightly gives them an advantage. Clean fuels pay less, dirty fuels pay more. Groceries are cheaper, healthier and employ more people when grown using clean renewable energy.
China is investing much of there profits from exports into renewables; they are in fact world leaders in clean renewable technology. 50GW from wind growing to 150GW by 2010
in the name of reducing a gas that plants need to live we have: 1.diesel cars which cause lung cancer, 2.deadly mercury in every light bulb and 3.nuclear power being used more to reduce 'emmisions'. congratulations on your excellent work. i look forward to your marches against obama and gillard declaring war on libya.
Not only that, carbon taxes simply do not work, and have failed in every country they have been implemented. Germany can no longer afford it, and are thus disbanding it. When countries like China are increasing their output PER WEEK by the total annual output of Great Britain, there really is no point at all in a country that produces less than 1.3% of the world's carbon screwing itself for a token gesture.
I'm all for lessening pollution, and have always been (we're about to have solar power installed on our property, and we have low power/water usage appliances throughout our house), but that doesn't change the fact that this carbon tax will NOT WORK.
Wow, you're actually deleting posts? How enlightened:P If you know about the science, (like I do, being a physics major studying @ UTAS RIGHT NOW, and the heat absorption properties of carbon), you would realise that a carbon price in Australia will have NO impact WHATSOEVER on global temperatures. If Australia were to cease existing, the global temperature would decrease by 2100 by .0000001%.
@fpsBeaTt You need to stop bragging on every video about "studying" physics and tell people about your real major: A BS in Bigger is Better, with a minor in Self Anal Information Extraction.
This is excellent, businesses that don't pollute get tax breaks and businesses that do pollute are penalised. This will encourage all polluting companies to clean up there act.
@kaieteurdevon no it won't, it will encourage them to move their operations overseas to countries that don't have a carbon tax, killing any manufacturing there is left in Australia and thousands upon thousands of jobs leaving these shores. Then they will import these things at a cheaper cost to hem, but still at a price as if it did have a carbon tax on it, to increase profits! If you can't see this happening you are a fool! This Carbon Tax will destroy the Australia that I am proud to live in!
@basby76 A whole new generation of clean pollution free jobs are being created. Thousands of new manufacturing jobs being created as dirty fossil fuels become redundant and clean technologies become the clean energy future. Your right some backward looking companies intent on continuing there polluting ways may well look for a seedy country to pollute, Australia will be greater for there departure.
@kaieteurdevon ***A whole new generation of clean pollution free jobs are being created***
He he he. Every 'green' job created by taxes and government handouts costs 4.7 real jobs. Yeah, you greenies are great at job creation, just look what you've done to mining, forestry, farming and fishing. Keep the jokes coming, DR
@downriggershop The dirty fuel technologies of Coal, oil, gas and nuclear have been backed by massive government subsidies, but you already know this. Now we all realise the problems the pollution is causing, worldwide governments are offering tax incentives to businesses that don’t pollute. Good common sense, that is and will continue to create a new wave of employment.
i note the head speaker of the pro carbon tax rally was the getup founder stooge
man made global warming is a hoax , it's all a scam designed to bring in more tax revenue for the united nations.10% of Australias carbon tax goes directly to the UN.
BassGoesBoom1 5 months ago
Climate change is happening and we do need to put a stop to it, but the carbon tax won't do anything good. We have much better solutions.
clubpenguinsux1 7 months ago
A price on pollution is excellent. Tax breaks for non polluting business.
Only looser of inaction would be future generations who loose out from devastating consequences from pollution and outrageously expensive costs of keeping dirty, polluting methods of producing electricity. This is the 21st Century where we have a plethora of abundant sources of natural, clean and renewable sources of energy that we can harness to make electricity.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago 3
@kaieteurdevon ***a price on pollution is excellent. Tax breaks for non polluting business***
Carbon dioxide's not a pollutant, greenie. It's essential for life on Earth. How much will taxing the fuel and electricity used by ordinary Australians bring down global carbon dioxide emissions? I dare you to answer that directly.
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop Tax incentives for business that don’t pollute obviously help reduce pollution.
If you are of the cult that chants “They call it pollution, we call it life” there is no hope for you. People like that are nonsensical and blind followers of fossil fuel propaganda. /watch?v=0_VmMIbWKoo
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
@downriggershop well for someone who claims to be a christian in the fred nile party you sure do like to insult people and pick fights if they dont agree with your arrogant redneck attetude. you just think your better than everyone and everything, and wildfires have been part of the world for billions of years, but you of course have to blame "greenies" for everything. what a hypocrite is this what the fred nile party likes to do? Get on youtube and shitstir>?
MrEdufication 11 months ago 4
@downriggershop " I dare you".... what a child, mind you I would love to see you actually try to explain the "answer" to your own question.
uptheproverbialcreek 10 months ago
@uptheproverbialcreek I've answered it, watermelon - zero.
downriggershop 10 months ago
@kaieteurdevon Keep the BS coming, greenie. The proposed tax on carbon dioxide has already destroyed the political careers of Turnbull, Rudd and Gillard. It's a poisoned chalice for the metro Left so please, drink deeply.
downriggershop 10 months ago
@downriggershop All children want a cleaner, less polluted planet to inherit. Numbskulls that keep winging they want to continue polluting the biosphere are pathetic, they don’t deserve a say in the future. Most adults with intellect agree cutting pollution is a good thing, thank goodness some Australian politicians have the foresight to bring in this pollution tax.
kaieteurdevon 10 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***all children want a cleaner, less polluted planet to inherit***
Only the technology supplied by capitalism and free enterprise can provide that, greenie. The downside is that it also provides the opportunity for spoilt middle class wankers like yourself to pontificate ad infinitum. As to the carbon dioxide tax, bring it on. Australians will vote for those who oppose it.
downriggershop 10 months ago
@downriggershop People like you that live in a dream world of causing more pollution into infinity are a depressed lot. Get a grip with reality. Putting a stop to pollution with taxation is exactly the capitalism and free enterprise that you talk about and yes it will also encourage a change to cleaner, more efficient technology. Luckily most Australians care about their children’s future enjoyment of our biosphere.
Your foul mouth weak insults show your lack of intellect.
kaieteurdevon 10 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***it will also encourage a change to cleaner, more efficient technology***
More taxes don't encourage anything, greenie. They only make energy - and everything else - more expensive. Learn some basic economics before you bloviate agitprop.
downriggershop 10 months ago
@downriggershop Pollution taxes makes polluting technology more expensive, that’s great! They may not like it at first, but that’s life. We are all addicted to energy so will continue to produce it from clean renewable technologies. It doesn’t take a genius to work it out.
The end result will be less pollution, who in there right mind would disagree. Your arguments are empty and nonsensical.
kaieteurdevon 10 months ago
@kaieteurdevon
SMH May 29, 2011: A rally organised by the Youth Climate Coalition in Martin Place yesterday was expected to attract more than 300 people but barely 50 took part.
downriggershop 9 months ago
LOL.
For the carbon dioxide tax - middle class uni students, who've never done a day's work in their lives. And lonely old ladies, living with three cats who 'want to make a difference.'
Against the carbon dioxide tax- average working Aussies.
Hey, greenies - bring it on! it's already destroyed the political careers of Turnbull and Rudd, Gillard will make a nice troika.
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop There is no such thing as greenies (as you call them) vs dirty polluters, it is all US. We are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted and ALL responsible for its clear up. Tax incentives to stop pollution are a great thing for all future generations, both financially from job creation and environmentally from less pollution for them to deal with.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***We are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted and ALL responsible for its clear up***
If we're all responsible, explain how a carbon dioxide tax in Australia will fix this. From Wired magazine:
If China’s carbon usage keeps pace with its economic growth, the country’s carbon dioxide emissions will reach 8 gigatons a year by 2030, which is equal to the entire world’s CO2 production today.
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop We are living in an interconnected world. Pollution recognises NO boundaries. All countries around the globe are addressing pollution, some better than others.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***we are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted and ALL responsible for its clear up***
China, USA, Russia and India are responsible. Australia's share is 0.01%. Much less than that, if you deduct the carbon dioxide produced by wildfires due to national parks' mismanagement.
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop It’s a fallacy to blame a country for pollution that we are all responsible for, all emit and all face the consequences of. Especially naive to blame manufacturing countries used by others as a cheap place to import goods from eg, computers, mobile phones, clothes, transport etc.
Most of us are still responsible for burning fossil fuels 24/7 pumping billions of tons of pollutants into the air. Taxing that pollution will make people think twice before they pollute.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
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@kaieteurdevon ***It’s a fallacy to blame a country for pollution that we are all responsible for, all emit and all face the consequences of***
Right. So why are you blaming Australia, when this country produces less than one percent of the world's carbon dioxide?
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop If one person plants a tree, it may seem to some people insignificant, if 22 million people plant a tree, most people would be rightly impressed.
If one person reduces their pollution its fairly insignificant if 22 million people reduce their pollution that’s a lot less pollution.
Its not about blame, it’s about looking forward, we are all responsible for pollution and clearing it up. Australia imports and exports huge amounts of ‘stuff’, it is a global player.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***we are ALL responsible for the pollution emitted***
We are not equally responsible. The most avoidable generator of carbon dioxide is wildfires in national parks, caused by greenies' opposition to hazard reduction burning.
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop The most obvious, staring us all in the face obvious, way of reducing pollution is to stop burning dirty fossil fuels ASAP. Hence a pollution tax to help make businesses clean up there act and encourage us ALL to make clean, renewable energy choices.
Wildfires are bad for our environment and devastating for any humans affected.
You blame others for problems you see, far too easily. You too have an impact on this planet, for good or for bad.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***obvious, way of reducing pollution is to stop burning dirty fossil fuels***
LOL. How is taxing the fuel and groceries Aussies buy going to fix that, while China builds a coal burning electricity plant every week? You greenies need to put down the bong and spend some time in the real world.
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop Its not rocket science it’s really easy to understand.
Giving tax incentives to companies that do not pollute our future, rightly gives them an advantage. Clean fuels pay less, dirty fuels pay more. Groceries are cheaper, healthier and employ more people when grown using clean renewable energy.
China is investing much of there profits from exports into renewables; they are in fact world leaders in clean renewable technology. 50GW from wind growing to 150GW by 2010
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
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Fuckin' greeny rags - funny how lefty frauds are always asking for a handout.
Most of these inner urban twats haven't been past Northcote, Fitzroy, Brunswick or St. Kilda.!
BikeDaze 11 months ago
Fuckin' greeny rags - funny how lefty frauds are always asking for a handout.
Most of these inner urban twats haven't been past Northcote, Fitzroy, Brunswick or St. Kilda.!
BikeDaze 11 months ago
in the name of reducing a gas that plants need to live we have: 1.diesel cars which cause lung cancer, 2.deadly mercury in every light bulb and 3.nuclear power being used more to reduce 'emmisions'. congratulations on your excellent work. i look forward to your marches against obama and gillard declaring war on libya.
notjustanothergreek 11 months ago
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Not only that, carbon taxes simply do not work, and have failed in every country they have been implemented. Germany can no longer afford it, and are thus disbanding it. When countries like China are increasing their output PER WEEK by the total annual output of Great Britain, there really is no point at all in a country that produces less than 1.3% of the world's carbon screwing itself for a token gesture.
fpsBeaTt 11 months ago
I'm all for lessening pollution, and have always been (we're about to have solar power installed on our property, and we have low power/water usage appliances throughout our house), but that doesn't change the fact that this carbon tax will NOT WORK.
fpsBeaTt 11 months ago
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fpsBeaTt 11 months ago
Wow, you're actually deleting posts? How enlightened:P If you know about the science, (like I do, being a physics major studying @ UTAS RIGHT NOW, and the heat absorption properties of carbon), you would realise that a carbon price in Australia will have NO impact WHATSOEVER on global temperatures. If Australia were to cease existing, the global temperature would decrease by 2100 by .0000001%.
fpsBeaTt 11 months ago
@fpsBeaTt You need to stop bragging on every video about "studying" physics and tell people about your real major: A BS in Bigger is Better, with a minor in Self Anal Information Extraction.
crystallinentity 11 months ago
This is excellent, businesses that don't pollute get tax breaks and businesses that do pollute are penalised. This will encourage all polluting companies to clean up there act.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago 8
@kaieteurdevon no it won't, it will encourage them to move their operations overseas to countries that don't have a carbon tax, killing any manufacturing there is left in Australia and thousands upon thousands of jobs leaving these shores. Then they will import these things at a cheaper cost to hem, but still at a price as if it did have a carbon tax on it, to increase profits! If you can't see this happening you are a fool! This Carbon Tax will destroy the Australia that I am proud to live in!
basby76 11 months ago
@basby76 A whole new generation of clean pollution free jobs are being created. Thousands of new manufacturing jobs being created as dirty fossil fuels become redundant and clean technologies become the clean energy future. Your right some backward looking companies intent on continuing there polluting ways may well look for a seedy country to pollute, Australia will be greater for there departure.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago
@kaieteurdevon ***A whole new generation of clean pollution free jobs are being created***
He he he. Every 'green' job created by taxes and government handouts costs 4.7 real jobs. Yeah, you greenies are great at job creation, just look what you've done to mining, forestry, farming and fishing. Keep the jokes coming, DR
downriggershop 11 months ago
@downriggershop The dirty fuel technologies of Coal, oil, gas and nuclear have been backed by massive government subsidies, but you already know this. Now we all realise the problems the pollution is causing, worldwide governments are offering tax incentives to businesses that don’t pollute. Good common sense, that is and will continue to create a new wave of employment.
kaieteurdevon 11 months ago