Farmed blue fox

[laurenAmbrose]

It's obvious this video is not from a fur farm.

[TuomoHamalainen]

You are right. This is from Elma. It is a "showplace of farmers". Like who has biggest apples and stuff. But the animal is really from fur farm.

But I still wonder how people see something like agenda in this. (But if it is, it is not argumentally badder than the "look the cruelty" -videos. They are not scientifically correctly picked tests. They are extremecases.)

[angelfox18crescent]

poor thing I want to take it home its insane people want real fur its the 21st century for god sakes.

[TuomoHamalainen]

I actually think a bit same. But I am also cynical-realistic guy. Utopy is usually a dream. If I had a argument on this topic, it should be: Rich assholes buy their bloody skins somewhere. And if more watched and ethic countries (like finland) stops, then they bought their stuff from China. And THAT is actually f**ing terrible.

For me it is "Bad or badder."

[angelfox18crescent]

Well you only have to wacth these horfric videos with showing them been skined alive and they are still alive for 5 mins with no fur just scraps of skin, musle blood and pain

I cried seening that poor raccon dog it kept lifing its head up and swaying side ways it must have been in unspeakble agony TxT

[TuomoHamalainen]

Yes. But it is totally wrong to claim that this is reality in z.B. finland too. In China there is all kind of shit. And you actually can't control them. In Finland we have a much used place, Ikea. It's way to buy feathers which are ripped away in living gooses get popularity. So they fix them with paperwork. And they just "trust" in Chinense word that the etics are all right..

I have seen many of these films. And I have worked a little time in slaughterhouse. It looked different in place..

[morgasm657]

@angelfox18crescent seriously? there are places like that? why would they skin the animal alive? that's just retarded, what's the point. only takes seconds to finish an animal off!

i'm pro hunting and dont have a problem with real fur, not a fan of fur farms, but prefer to use the skins of animals i have hunted as i cant abide waste, its disrespectful to the animal to just kill it for one bit of it.

[xcandihoney]

poor fox there in grates it hurts its paws

thats cruelty

[TuomoHamalainen]

Yes. And then we eat them. Finland is so poor country. Polar bears roam and stuff. That makes us crazy. The darkness, that brings certain kind of mental ilness what we finns call "kaamosmasennus". In english that is bloodlust+depression. :)

[TuomoHamalainen]

OK, actually, you can see: Paws are fine, and it is not limping at all. Reason is clear: Plastic coat in cages metal bars. Actually their enviroment is for them cozier than for some pets living at home. Only reason to claim othervise is "not seeing truth because of hate towards commercialism." Yes. Someone is doing some money and that is wrong???

[BIGGESTxxEMINEMxxFAN]

@TuomoHamalainen

I know your comment is 2 years old but i guess you will still be stupid , how can an animal in a cage be happier than a "pet" living at a home ? these animals have a terrible life and then there life is ended horribley at the end...

Your undereducated on the fur trade clearly , if you support it then FUCK YOU

[CidSilverWing]

00berfl00fy foxy ^^

[punkkii]

Nojuu, en ole minäkään ymmärtänyt, enkä tule ymmärtämään.. Tässähän se aika hyvin näkee millasta se suomessa on, itekkin näissä turkishommissa työskentelen.

[TuomoHamalainen]

Minä taas en työskentele turkishommissa, välillisesti on tullut tutustuttua opiskelujen kautta.

Tosin tämä video on enemmän WYSIWYG -mallia, kuin mikään argumentti. En yleensä tee kuvallisia argumentteja, puuttuu taiteellisuus ja näkemys joka siihen tarvitaan. Lopputuloksena on pakotettu eksistentialismi..

[punkkii]

mikä tän videon tarkotus on? sinikettu leikkii jollakin purulelulla, näköjään aivan loppusyksystä kuvattu video.

[TuomoHamalainen]

Vaikea sanoa mikä on idea. En kun koskaan ole ymmärtänyt että mikä idea on siinä kun hyttytytöt joko lavastaa tai kuvaa anomaliakettujaan Kiinasta ja esittelee niitä. Paitsi että ne ovat ällöjä ja tämä herttaisempi.

[nubb11]

- ne ei oo hyttytyttöjä.

- ne on ihan normaaleja kettuja.

- toi on ilmiselvästi jostain kaupungista, eikä mistään oikealta turkistilalta.

[TuomoHamalainen]

Tuo on itse asiassa naali. (Jonka yksi värimuoto on sinikettu. Ja nimi on sanaleikki. Huumoria.) Kuvauspaikka on näyttelystä. Mutta minulla on tiedossa em. ketun provenienssi (toisin kuin Teillä.) Ja ketun historia itse asiassa on ihan oikealta tilalta. Ja tällä hetkellä tuon nahka koristanee jonkun rikkaan käsiä.

Toinen juttu, mikä ihmetyttää on tietysti se, että tuo video koetaan argumenttina. Ikään kuin väittäisin jotain jota en väitä. (Tuollakin on esim. ylipainoa.)

[TuomoHamalainen]

Yes, for us it is extremely important to be "ethical". It is kind of "must", becouse in some areas which methods I myself disgust, have extremely cheap "humans work": small payments in jobs, so they can use it cheaply. We have not that option, so we must use other ways: Products price is higher, so we must give it "extra value" somehow - or perish in comptetition with other countries..

[dietrc70]

Nice to see that your Finnish foxes have toys to play with and aren't in tiny cages.