Were Nicolaus Copernicus who is considered the Father of Modern Astronomy, Modern Physics, and Science, and Isaac Newton who all had a belief in God either as the Christian God or as a Deity - would they be considered retards for their belief in God? What about a philosopher scientists such as Gottfied Liebniz who is credited with the discovery of infinitesimal calculus? What about Einstein? What about Georges Henri Joseph Éduard Lemaître the scientist priest who first suggested the Big Bang?
@ ensittare - you might check out my new playlist on the Shroud of Turin which is presented from the viewpoint of science & history - even the famous Atheist Richard Dawkins admits there is controversy with the carbon dating, the one scientific stumbling block to public acceptance. - /tnz3Z - using goo and then a dot gl to access the short cut
@ensittare /vi9pT again using goo and then a dot gl to access the short cut - if you have at least a minor in philosophy or are at least versed in David Hume or Immanuel Kant's philosophys, you might be adequate to respond to my blog and see why I say, from the point of science, "Why Science can neither prove or disprove God's existence" - it is not even adequate to the challenge because of its own limitations, something the Englishmen David Hume would agree with.
The actual statement was originally in a radio lecture in 1982. It may have been a wild guess, but "A colleague of mine worked out that a yeast cell and a 777 airplane have the same number of parts, the same level of complexity" (3). (The Boeing 747-400 has 6 million parts). Hoyle uses the Boeing-747 argument to prove the impossibility of the natural origin of life. - home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/kortho46a.htm
A junkyard contains all the bits and pieces of a Boeing-747, dismembered and in disarray. A whirlwind happens to blow through the yard. What is the chance that after its passage a fully assembled 747, ready to fly, will be found standing there? (*).
@Kwinnky: Perhaps if people like Dawkins studied the Philosophy from which Science sprang forth, and good Religious thought from the beginning was married to Philosophy (a love of Wisdom translated from the ancient Greek), they might be able to talk about metaphysics. Does life have a purpose or is it an accident and meaningless? Wondered if Dawkins ever read the Hebrew in Genesis to realize TOV (good) means not only God saw it was good, but with potential to be even better, hence evolution.
@ Kwinnky: Many scientist honestly don't deal with metaphysics, but then there are those that dare to believe they do. Such men never stopped to read the works of Descartes, Spinoza, or Leibniz, nor Locke, Berkeley, or Hume, nor the debate between European Rationalists & British Empiricists, which David Hume brought to an end when logically he took the scientific method to its logical ends and wound up with total skepticism. Science sprang from Philosophy, which sprang from Religion.
@ sethecx: Statistically speaking, there is a great chance of taking all the parts of a 747 in a junkyard, and having a hurricane hit it, and have it put itself together without any assistance then there is for something to evolve from nothing. Anything that has an engineered design has a creator. Even Aristotle, the founder of Western Education, believed in a prime mover. To not believe in a Creator/God is the sign of a degenerating mind attacked by a virus destroying the OS that launched it.
@ Churck1863: Rene Descartes said, "I think, therefore I am", but if "I am" why? Even Atheist must think about their existence, and why it is. They are ultimately people of faith, because to make a judgment, to hold a presupposition that supports your logic and reasoning, involves faith. If you don't think so just go back and read Immanuel Kant's PROLEGOMENA TO ANY FUTURE METAPHYSICS.
this video is a lie form a dishonest person, since atheism is the lack of belief in gods, and doesnt say anything about how the universe came about. you are dishonest, and will be punished one day for it.
Hopefully this is satire. But this is what happens when primitive man is put near more intelligent civilized people
kysmelmonge 8 months ago
@kysmelmonge - yeah, I know exactly what you mean - /watch?v=_voTiCTqv4Q
KringleOfBorg 8 months ago
Were Nicolaus Copernicus who is considered the Father of Modern Astronomy, Modern Physics, and Science, and Isaac Newton who all had a belief in God either as the Christian God or as a Deity - would they be considered retards for their belief in God? What about a philosopher scientists such as Gottfied Liebniz who is credited with the discovery of infinitesimal calculus? What about Einstein? What about Georges Henri Joseph Éduard Lemaître the scientist priest who first suggested the Big Bang?
KringleOfBorg 10 months ago
@ ensittare - you might check out my new playlist on the Shroud of Turin which is presented from the viewpoint of science & history - even the famous Atheist Richard Dawkins admits there is controversy with the carbon dating, the one scientific stumbling block to public acceptance. - /tnz3Z - using goo and then a dot gl to access the short cut
KringleOfBorg 10 months ago
Are you american, or just a retard?
ensittare 10 months ago
@ensittare /vi9pT again using goo and then a dot gl to access the short cut - if you have at least a minor in philosophy or are at least versed in David Hume or Immanuel Kant's philosophys, you might be adequate to respond to my blog and see why I say, from the point of science, "Why Science can neither prove or disprove God's existence" - it is not even adequate to the challenge because of its own limitations, something the Englishmen David Hume would agree with.
KringleOfBorg 10 months ago
(*)
The actual statement was originally in a radio lecture in 1982. It may have been a wild guess, but "A colleague of mine worked out that a yeast cell and a 777 airplane have the same number of parts, the same level of complexity" (3). (The Boeing 747-400 has 6 million parts). Hoyle uses the Boeing-747 argument to prove the impossibility of the natural origin of life. - home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/kortho46a.htm
KringleOfBorg 11 months ago
A junkyard contains all the bits and pieces of a Boeing-747, dismembered and in disarray. A whirlwind happens to blow through the yard. What is the chance that after its passage a fully assembled 747, ready to fly, will be found standing there? (*).
KringleOfBorg 11 months ago
@Kwinnky: Perhaps if people like Dawkins studied the Philosophy from which Science sprang forth, and good Religious thought from the beginning was married to Philosophy (a love of Wisdom translated from the ancient Greek), they might be able to talk about metaphysics. Does life have a purpose or is it an accident and meaningless? Wondered if Dawkins ever read the Hebrew in Genesis to realize TOV (good) means not only God saw it was good, but with potential to be even better, hence evolution.
KringleOfBorg 1 year ago
@ Kwinnky: Many scientist honestly don't deal with metaphysics, but then there are those that dare to believe they do. Such men never stopped to read the works of Descartes, Spinoza, or Leibniz, nor Locke, Berkeley, or Hume, nor the debate between European Rationalists & British Empiricists, which David Hume brought to an end when logically he took the scientific method to its logical ends and wound up with total skepticism. Science sprang from Philosophy, which sprang from Religion.
KringleOfBorg 1 year ago
@ sethecx: Statistically speaking, there is a great chance of taking all the parts of a 747 in a junkyard, and having a hurricane hit it, and have it put itself together without any assistance then there is for something to evolve from nothing. Anything that has an engineered design has a creator. Even Aristotle, the founder of Western Education, believed in a prime mover. To not believe in a Creator/God is the sign of a degenerating mind attacked by a virus destroying the OS that launched it.
KringleOfBorg 1 year ago
@ Churck1863: Rene Descartes said, "I think, therefore I am", but if "I am" why? Even Atheist must think about their existence, and why it is. They are ultimately people of faith, because to make a judgment, to hold a presupposition that supports your logic and reasoning, involves faith. If you don't think so just go back and read Immanuel Kant's PROLEGOMENA TO ANY FUTURE METAPHYSICS.
KringleOfBorg 1 year ago
@KringleOfBorg I don't know that there is a reason that I'm here. If there is a reason, I don't know what it might be. Is that faith?
Chuck1863 1 year ago
this video is a lie form a dishonest person, since atheism is the lack of belief in gods, and doesnt say anything about how the universe came about. you are dishonest, and will be punished one day for it.
sethecx 1 year ago
Theism: The belief that since the universe couldn't just happen to exist, it must have been created by something else that just happens to exist.
Chuck1863 1 year ago