freakin awesome that some of the "old ladies" are still alive and wheezin' out Mello-ness. excellent simulation and in general, tronfan66. there's a ~1970 pinball machine (Williams? "Seven Up" - skier motif) i wish was still around - that was my life for a few years as a kid. OK no comparison I know, was just waxing nostalgic...
amazing, take care of that mellotron, it's like that sacred instrument extracted from Rush's 2112 story, somthing you'll never find at yamaha's store!
@willregnier buy a Memotron.....you would need to have owned a Mellotron to tell the difference. You can buy them new for around £1500. You get a CD-ROM with it with most of the classic 'tron sounds.
This is spot on. I think I could learn this by watching you .Well.. the notes anyway. Won't sound as good as you, mate.Or Tony either, LOL.Have been re-discovering Genisis on you tube(have it all on vinyl, but need a new stylus, yes,I'm "old school")and this is very welcome. Thanks.
I think what Tony Banks is doing is playing that intro on both the Mellotron (left hand) and the Hammond organ (right hand), playing the exact same part on either instrument simultaneously. The bass would be courtesy of Mike Rutherford's Dewtron Mr. Bassman pedals.
tronfan66, I agree absolutely!!!! I saw Genesis in Sweden 1982 and I missed Hackett and Gabriel but it was great to see the others. I enjoyed them playing the old stuff and then there were younger people who danced to Abacab and similar. I am not that fond of Abacab or later stuff but as a Genesis-fan I have all the records on both vinyl and CD.
Thanks for demonstrating mellotron. Such a beautiful instrument!!! And the sound is great....
I agree as well. Wasn't it after Wind and Wuthering that Steve Hackett left the band because he had less and less say on what was being done on the albums?
I agree I got up to "From Genesis to Revelation" to "Trick Of The Tail". "Wind and Wuthering is great too. I acctualy just bought "Nursery Crime" on LP. GREAT ALBUM. tronfan66 your making me want to get a tron. I'm 16, need a job, and NEED A TRON.
@tronfan66 well, your entitled to your opinion of course. for me, best period of genesis of course is when hackett arrived. but trespass is their first great album IMO, all the way to Lamb....(i equally like trespass and lamb actually)... the first records with collins singing are good too... especially trick of the tail. of course, never as superb as the gabriel years
These tronfan videos are great.The Mellotron is my favourite instrument, so rich warm and vibrant.We need more tron in the world, we need to reverse to the 70's and get many more Mellotron albums, there are not enough.I salute you sir!
He may have done that live, but I don't know for certain. One thing I do know for sure is that on the original studio version from "Foxtrot", he played the bass notes using the 'bass accordion' sound on the left-hand keyboard of his MKII Mellotron.
Thanks, I have been wondering for about 30 years as to what Mellotron sound(s) Tony used for "watcher's" intro. My 'tron has the standard string/flute/choir tapes. Except my high key is a gong/laughtrack/audience clapping "sample."
Thanks Tronfan. Great to see and hear one of the best instruments ever made. Plus seeing it played well and some of the best Mellotron pieces recorded. Keep it up. Now do me Hawkwinds Golden Void on it and i will bow down in your presence. Thanks.
Thanks, glad you liked it! I just do these things for a bit of fun really, but it's nice that other people get some enjoyment as well. Mind you, I did also start this profile as a way of answering the question I have frequently been asked: "What's a Mellotron?". I figured that if I did a few famous bits and pieces that have used one, then it's a chance for a few people to discover that they knew the sound all along, even if they didn't know the name of the instrument that made those noises!
No problem. The short answer is that it depends on a lot of things - but to be more specific, as long as the machine is well-maintained, for example if the tape heads are regularly cleaned / demagnetised and the keyboard mechanism isn't over-adjusted (which can cause tapes to stick and get chewed up), then they'll last for years. I've had tapes in my machine which lasted for 15 years or more, and although I have since replaced them with other sounds, they're still playable.
This one was made in about 1972 I believe, though the tapes themselves are not very old - got them from Streetly Electronics 4 years ago, and they do sound amazing.
There's the new M4000 from Streetly Electronics (the makers of the original), or the MKVI from the Mellotron company (made by Markus Resch in Sweden)...or failing that there's always the Memotron or M-Tron. Have a search online for all of these and you'll get more info about all of them - hope that helps!
I bought it in 1989 from a music shop in Notting Hill, West London, for £300. That was at a time when Mellotrons were still very unfashionable and therefore, relatively cheap!
Well thanks for the response. If you worked this out for yourself, it is even more impressive. To me, a long time Genesis fan, (since '73), it sounds identical to the Band. Well done!
Excellent. Any chance of getting a link to the sheet music. I am using something I got from the web and it is just not right (could be me though). Tezza.
Thanks - I must admit, I'm not sure where you could get a link to the sheet music for this. I hope this doesn't sound like showing off, but what I did was I basically worked it out from a combination of having heard it so often, and then relying on memory really!
Hey, i saw your left hand doin diffrent stuff to your right hand? how can you do that? is it two peeps?
Seriously tho, real cool to see and hear. WHAAAAAAT A MIIIIGHTY TUNE by Gabriel & Genesis. Ethereal and powerful. Love it to bits.
Oh - whats that bit about tape heads between the two thingymebobs? Curios. My brother used to be a BBC sound engineer in the 70's & he used to string tape loops physically accross two or three machines. Weird to see and hear. The Beeb ey? tsk, pfft lol.
Cheers for that. What I mentioned about tape head positioning: on the Mellotron the replay heads are all mounted on one block which runs across the length of all the keys, and sounds are changed by shifting the position of the headblock side to side, via a knob at the front. You can also get two adjacent sounds to play together by positioning the heads just so, which was what I did here.
I see more as a Mellotron LEGEND than cliché! I love playing that with G-Media's M-Tron soft synth, though I definitely cannot play it as fast as the original like you do. Not to mention that the feeling of playing it on a REAL Mellotron must be without comparison. Excellent!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, I think you certainly get a real sense of 'involvement' when playing a Mellotron, due to the mechanics of the whole thing!
Great!!
DeleriosoAnormal 1 month ago
Thanks for the performance! This is such a haunting piece even after forty years.
4umtator 2 months ago
Bravissimo!!!!
AntaresSI 6 months ago
freakin awesome that some of the "old ladies" are still alive and wheezin' out Mello-ness. excellent simulation and in general, tronfan66. there's a ~1970 pinball machine (Williams? "Seven Up" - skier motif) i wish was still around - that was my life for a few years as a kid. OK no comparison I know, was just waxing nostalgic...
PalerShadeOfWhite 6 months ago
sounds just like it. Nice job
thrashmetalkills 10 months ago
I envy you, apparently owning a real Tron... owning a real Tron, however, I have some real good samples if I may say so myself ;-)
I'd like to see/hear more...
Regards from Holland,
Alex
muziekengeluid 1 year ago
I envy you, apparently owning a real Tron... owning a real Tron, however, I have some real good samples if I may say so myself ;-)
I'd like to see/hear more...
Regards from Holland,
Alex
muziekengeluid 1 year ago
amazing, take care of that mellotron, it's like that sacred instrument extracted from Rush's 2112 story, somthing you'll never find at yamaha's store!
RailcarFerrostaal 1 year ago
That is really beautiful. What a marvellous sound!
Dr0ctave 1 year ago
And I used to think it was so complex and hard to play.
nbelsky 1 year ago
I'm trying to find a keyboard/synthesizer that can produce realistic mellotron sounds (especially for the choir sound)... Can anyone help me?
willregnier 1 year ago
@willregnier buy a Memotron.....you would need to have owned a Mellotron to tell the difference. You can buy them new for around £1500. You get a CD-ROM with it with most of the classic 'tron sounds.
anbreatnach 1 year ago
well done
hope2prosper 1 year ago
Great stuff!
Pappatunsa 1 year ago
Wonderful sound and playing. Thank you for posting. Keep them coming.
vacuumtube1954 1 year ago
Good.
paperpichu 1 year ago
Great stuff. I love to hear all the mechanical stuff going on too.
chrisofnottingham 1 year ago
I can't play keyboards . However when I hear the mellotron, played with such pinache, it hammers home how much I regret not doing so.
pete671 1 year ago
This is spot on. I think I could learn this by watching you .Well.. the notes anyway. Won't sound as good as you, mate.Or Tony either, LOL.Have been re-discovering Genisis on you tube(have it all on vinyl, but need a new stylus, yes,I'm "old school")and this is very welcome. Thanks.
blademon7 1 year ago
how about a "virtual" Genesis cover band?
drebatista 1 year ago
Tremendous job!
oliasdoug 2 years ago
You got the sound dead on. Nice job!
rickfreslanta 2 years ago
well done!!!
Nikkodemis 2 years ago
Cool as hell!
chairdude1 2 years ago
Plain perfect.
Tisafuni 2 years ago
Brilliant !!
doobon 2 years ago
Yeah, Watcher of the Skies intro and Strawberry Fields intro on Mellotron are like Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water for guitar.
deerfish3000 2 years ago 11
@deerfish3000 I'd include In the court of the crimson king along with that
767fife 1 year ago
@deerfish3000 smoke on the water's riff it's not played on guitar, they used a hammond organ with A LOT OF distorsion :P
tomasciccola 8 months ago
where can i find the chords or the score???????
pueblos1chidos 2 years ago
You are a star! Really. I agree wth your cutoff date for Genesis music. WTF got in to those aholes!
dvision23 2 years ago
I think what Tony Banks is doing is playing that intro on both the Mellotron (left hand) and the Hammond organ (right hand), playing the exact same part on either instrument simultaneously. The bass would be courtesy of Mike Rutherford's Dewtron Mr. Bassman pedals.
kingtarkus 2 years ago
I read somewhere that the bass sound is a Mellotron set on "bass accordian," but I can't be sure.
wrs6565 2 years ago
It is, on the original studio version on 'Foxtrot' - bass accordion on the left hand keyboard of Tony Banks' MkII.
tronfan66 2 years ago
@tronfan66 I also love Trespass.
tamistamistamis 1 year ago
@tronfan66 I also love Trespass.
tamistamistamis 1 year ago
@wrs6565 Rutherford also adds a cello line, which makes it even weirder.
JackBlair2 1 year ago
Rutherford also plays a line on a cello on the recorded studio version.
JackBlair2 2 years ago
The position between gives off a nice eerie sound.
Keijz74 2 years ago
Very nice. One of the greatest song intros of all time.
lowbatt65 2 years ago
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lowbatt65 2 years ago
I suppose you like Genesis from the good old times?
Tuvadog 2 years ago
Absolutely! 'Nursery Cryme' up to 'Wind and Wuthering' is their golden age as far as I'm concerned.
tronfan66 2 years ago 29
tronfan66, I agree absolutely!!!! I saw Genesis in Sweden 1982 and I missed Hackett and Gabriel but it was great to see the others. I enjoyed them playing the old stuff and then there were younger people who danced to Abacab and similar. I am not that fond of Abacab or later stuff but as a Genesis-fan I have all the records on both vinyl and CD.
Thanks for demonstrating mellotron. Such a beautiful instrument!!! And the sound is great....
Tuvadog 2 years ago
I agree as well. Wasn't it after Wind and Wuthering that Steve Hackett left the band because he had less and less say on what was being done on the albums?
SheradZakalwe 2 years ago
@tronfan66
I agree I got up to "From Genesis to Revelation" to "Trick Of The Tail". "Wind and Wuthering is great too. I acctualy just bought "Nursery Crime" on LP. GREAT ALBUM. tronfan66 your making me want to get a tron. I'm 16, need a job, and NEED A TRON.
sabbath231 1 year ago
@tronfan66 I completely agree. So their golden age is more or less when Steve Hackett was a member eh?
Rowdyrecords55 10 months ago
@tronfan66 not even a mention for 'trespass' ? great record! it has the epic song The Knife!
juandhaltrich 2 months ago
@juandhaltrich Oh, I do like Trespass, but it just doesn't quite hit the giddy heights for me the way the Hackett-period stuff does!
tronfan66 2 months ago
@tronfan66 well, your entitled to your opinion of course. for me, best period of genesis of course is when hackett arrived. but trespass is their first great album IMO, all the way to Lamb....(i equally like trespass and lamb actually)... the first records with collins singing are good too... especially trick of the tail. of course, never as superb as the gabriel years
juandhaltrich 1 month ago
Excellent~!
thedave54 2 years ago
This is not correct.
Trondoc 2 years ago
Ah well, never mind - I never claimed it was 100% correct or perfect, but for a 'quite close approximation', it'll do me :) .
tronfan66 2 years ago 8
@tronfan66 Agreed!
Bitsforboats 1 year ago
No..you are not currect
thedave54 2 years ago
I love the mellowtron too. Love the chorus versions.
mrgoodvibrations 2 years ago
These tronfan videos are great.The Mellotron is my favourite instrument, so rich warm and vibrant.We need more tron in the world, we need to reverse to the 70's and get many more Mellotron albums, there are not enough.I salute you sir!
AZUREGLIDE 2 years ago
Is that you Tony ????
Just kidding..but that is just great. Usually many who try to duplicate go too fast or too slow but you are spot on !
Genesis from the 70s have enough music in their library to fill 15 motion pictures if needed.
Thanks
SixDayWar67 2 years ago
Well you have my GO! If you make good movies ;o)#
Keijz74 2 years ago
Your left hand on the synthesizer...did Tony Banks originally play that base note like you did on his Hammond organ?
NCMountainDavis 2 years ago
He may have done that live, but I don't know for certain. One thing I do know for sure is that on the original studio version from "Foxtrot", he played the bass notes using the 'bass accordion' sound on the left-hand keyboard of his MKII Mellotron.
tronfan66 2 years ago
youre a genius man!!!!,can you do the seven stones tron solo???
floydyes 3 years ago
Thank you for that! I'm sure the Seven Stones intro and ending will be making an appearance in the not too distant future.
tronfan66 2 years ago
youre a genius man!!!!!!!,can you do the seven stones tron solo?
floydyes 3 years ago
Thanks, I have been wondering for about 30 years as to what Mellotron sound(s) Tony used for "watcher's" intro. My 'tron has the standard string/flute/choir tapes. Except my high key is a gong/laughtrack/audience clapping "sample."
willveda 3 years ago
Thanks Tronfan. Great to see and hear one of the best instruments ever made. Plus seeing it played well and some of the best Mellotron pieces recorded. Keep it up. Now do me Hawkwinds Golden Void on it and i will bow down in your presence. Thanks.
trontastic 3 years ago
great work man!
you are a one man tribute band, but for who?
you put a lot of work into that, amazing!
gaypray 3 years ago
Thanks, glad you liked it! I just do these things for a bit of fun really, but it's nice that other people get some enjoyment as well. Mind you, I did also start this profile as a way of answering the question I have frequently been asked: "What's a Mellotron?". I figured that if I did a few famous bits and pieces that have used one, then it's a chance for a few people to discover that they knew the sound all along, even if they didn't know the name of the instrument that made those noises!
tronfan66 3 years ago
You are good at doing just that :o)#
Keijz74 2 years ago
how long does the tape last on average for a key?
lymph12 3 years ago
About 8 seconds.
tronfan66 3 years ago
no no. I know that. I meant how often does a key need replacement?
sorry.
lymph12 3 years ago
No problem. The short answer is that it depends on a lot of things - but to be more specific, as long as the machine is well-maintained, for example if the tape heads are regularly cleaned / demagnetised and the keyboard mechanism isn't over-adjusted (which can cause tapes to stick and get chewed up), then they'll last for years. I've had tapes in my machine which lasted for 15 years or more, and although I have since replaced them with other sounds, they're still playable.
tronfan66 3 years ago
nice!
I Love Genesis.
Thanks! (^^)ノ
melloblue2 3 years ago
nice!
I love Genesis.
thanks! (^^)ノ
melloblue2 3 years ago
how old is that mellotron it sounds beautiful.
sqonk77 3 years ago
This one was made in about 1972 I believe, though the tapes themselves are not very old - got them from Streetly Electronics 4 years ago, and they do sound amazing.
tronfan66 3 years ago
Nice job!
kramsmada 3 years ago
Such an insanely good opener. Where can I find the chords to this one?
BaronvonCase 3 years ago
Good question! I don't think I've ever seen sheet music to this, but I'm sure it must be available somewhere.
tronfan66 3 years ago
Just watch, listen and try it yourself ;-)
BastiaanLuytjes 3 years ago
u want that bad boy trone how bout that one and then some check out ik multimedias sampletron its the shit its a plugin for audio production
crucker2007 3 years ago
I want a Mellotron like yours...you know where can I buy one?? Im fan of Genesis and to me have a M400 it would be incredible!! Thanks!
ELIOREYES 3 years ago
There's the new M4000 from Streetly Electronics (the makers of the original), or the MKVI from the Mellotron company (made by Markus Resch in Sweden)...or failing that there's always the Memotron or M-Tron. Have a search online for all of these and you'll get more info about all of them - hope that helps!
tronfan66 3 years ago
I want a Mellotron m400!!! you know where I can buy it? very nice watcher of skies!!
ELIOREYES 3 years ago
FANTASTIC!!! This sounds so identical to the original... If I owned a mellotron I'd die with all the pleasure envolved XD
bbungled 3 years ago
great demo!
thanks for posting
retrosound72 3 years ago
Class sound.
drunkenstooge 3 years ago
Great ! This sound, and execution,matches perfectly with tht original of Tony Banks(and David Myers)
Alehouse
Hope my English is good enough !
trespass59 3 years ago
where did you get your mellotron and how much was it
420allday69 3 years ago
I bought it in 1989 from a music shop in Notting Hill, West London, for £300. That was at a time when Mellotrons were still very unfashionable and therefore, relatively cheap!
tronfan66 3 years ago
Simply great, I love the sound of Mellotron in that intro....excelent!!
saytra123 3 years ago
Well thanks for the response. If you worked this out for yourself, it is even more impressive. To me, a long time Genesis fan, (since '73), it sounds identical to the Band. Well done!
A novice keyboard player.
taemmett 3 years ago
Wow! Congratulations. This ain't an easy piece to play and you've done it SO accurately, almost exactly like the original. Well done!
blapo38 3 years ago
Thanks for that, I was really pleased with the results of this one!
tronfan66 3 years ago
Excellent. Any chance of getting a link to the sheet music. I am using something I got from the web and it is just not right (could be me though). Tezza.
taemmett 3 years ago
Thanks - I must admit, I'm not sure where you could get a link to the sheet music for this. I hope this doesn't sound like showing off, but what I did was I basically worked it out from a combination of having heard it so often, and then relying on memory really!
tronfan66 3 years ago
Hey, i saw your left hand doin diffrent stuff to your right hand? how can you do that? is it two peeps?
Seriously tho, real cool to see and hear. WHAAAAAAT A MIIIIGHTY TUNE by Gabriel & Genesis. Ethereal and powerful. Love it to bits.
Oh - whats that bit about tape heads between the two thingymebobs? Curios. My brother used to be a BBC sound engineer in the 70's & he used to string tape loops physically accross two or three machines. Weird to see and hear. The Beeb ey? tsk, pfft lol.
niabenaur 3 years ago
Cheers for that. What I mentioned about tape head positioning: on the Mellotron the replay heads are all mounted on one block which runs across the length of all the keys, and sounds are changed by shifting the position of the headblock side to side, via a knob at the front. You can also get two adjacent sounds to play together by positioning the heads just so, which was what I did here.
tronfan66 3 years ago
I see more as a Mellotron LEGEND than cliché! I love playing that with G-Media's M-Tron soft synth, though I definitely cannot play it as fast as the original like you do. Not to mention that the feeling of playing it on a REAL Mellotron must be without comparison. Excellent!
Fairlight60 3 years ago
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, I think you certainly get a real sense of 'involvement' when playing a Mellotron, due to the mechanics of the whole thing!
tronfan66 3 years ago
Congratulations !
This is excellent and reminds me of my youth.
Phoni Mitchell ( a.k.a. Astragone Arglegargle)
HadesW10 4 years ago
The alternative Liberace strikes again!
HadesW10 4 years ago