"As long as we live beyond our means we are destined to live beneath our means"
Such simple logic.And not a truer word ever said.
And before a Keynesian tries to "correct" me. Keep in mind theres two different types of jobs. Those that produce and those that dont. Two ways to borrow money. To borrow to produce or to borrow to consume. With one way you can pay your debt back and the other youre in more trouble.
And consider the consumption hypothesis. What % of goods are bought from abroad?
Ron Paul is out to educate people about the TRUTH, Other politicians just vie for petty political power. End the Fed. End the Wars. Stop the destruction of our currency and livelihoods for the benefits of the corrupt banksters.
PEOPLE NEED TO SWITCH PARTIES 12 WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF THE PRIMARIES IN MOST STATES.
IF YOU DO NOT SWITCH IN TIME YOU CANNOT VOTE IN PRIMARY.
IF YOU ARE NOT REGISTERED REPUBLICAN YOU CANNOT VOTE IN PRIMARY.
IF RON PAUL DOES NOT WIN PRIMARY, NO GENERAL ELECTION ! REGISTER AS A REPUBLICAN. FIND OUT WHEN YOUR STATE HAS PRIMARIES. FIND OUT WHERE AND VOTE VOTE VOTE ! PLEASE !
No one can say shit to Ron Paul because he knows what he is talking about so instead they just silence him in the media. Ron Paul is highly intelligent and will beat anyone in a political debate. Vote Ron Paul.
RON PAUL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER! TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW EXACTLY RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? OK LETS SAY ALL TROOPS CAME BACK AND THEN WHAT? THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IPHONES AND BLACKBERRIES? DUDE BE A MEN, HOW RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, BE HONEST TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY UR BOOK U NEED CASH , U LOVE POWER, U LOVE CASH, U WILL NEVER CREATE JOBS, U HAVE NO ANSWER!
brzezinski was right in canada. the world is politically awake and are looking the elite in the eyes. we see that paulson is a bastard, we see that brenanke is doing things to hurt us. we see that rockefeller and his pet cfr is bullshit. we see the multinational corrporations running this country, like g.e. we know who the politicians are that's singing off on bills that will destroy the country. we know who has to be voted out. it's time now to truly take back this country. wake up !!
how can it be that there are so many stupid morons running this country, and there is only ONE man who is rediculously smarter than everone else??? can't any other politician see his obvious common sense? or are they smart too, but they're USING the american people for their own personal gains? i'd call that TREASON. and it's time for WE THE PEOPLE to reclaim our country. elect this man.
@pamansprewell33 I am NOT a republican - but that's generally because they support corporatism and their ideology leans toward fascism. I'd definitely make an exception for Ron Paul, though.
@pamansprewell33 Thanks. I want to see our country live up to what I expected it to be: A place where you can work hard and better yourself. Capitalism's great as long as we allow for upward mobility and not giving unfair advantages to the wealthy and allowing corporations to run over the majority of the people and the environment. If the US becomes a plutocracy, oligarchy, etc. it's doomed to upheaval. I don't want that to happen.
All I hear from everyone is end Capitalism end Capitalism but you see Capitalism is the end of the line as of right now . There aren't any other governments that work well as of now . Communism is a failure, Dictatorships are failures and Monarchies are failures . And Anarchy in the sense we are mature enough to go on without the need for a government isn't even up for a debate becuase its clear we're not . The only thing I see that's more "free" in the sense after Capitalism is Anarchy .
@scottweise18 Norway seems to be doing very well for themselves. Their economy as actually been prospering while most other countries' economies have been sputtering, like ours. They have a mixed economy, with the government owning crucial industries like healthcare, oil and other energy resources. I think that's a very large part of our problem here- we have corporations controlling our vital resources and they have us "over a barrel" and we have to play"bribe the pirate" to appease them.
RON PAUL, LETS SAY WE BRING ALL TROOPS HOME AND BECOME A PUSSY COUNTRY AND LET CHINA TELL US WHAT TO DO, TELL US HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE JOBS IF POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B? CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, AMERICANS WILL NEVER WORK LIKE ANTS, NOW TELL ME HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? SHAME ON YOU ! YOU JUST WANNA SELL UR BOOK & U LIE TO AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT JOBS! HOW CONSTITUTION CAN CREATE JOBS? HOW CAN LIBERTY CREATE JOBS? WAKE UP OLD FART SMELL BLACK COFFEE! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
EVERYONE RESEARCH THE (S.968) BILL.... THE FEDERAL GOVT. IS TRYING TO SHUT DOWN THE WEB!!!! PASS THIS ON OR OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH WILL BE GONE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT!!!! CALL YOUR SENATORS AND SAY NO!!!!!!!!!
MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS DUMBED DOWN AMERICA... INTERNET IS THE ONLY WAY "WE THE PEOPLE CAN SPEAK" !!! THE TIME IS NOW!!!! PASS THIS ON!!!!
RON PAUL IS GOING TO BE PROSECUTED BY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO CALL AMERICAN PEOPLE INVADERS AND INITIATERS OF WARS.
RON PAUL SAID THE USA INVADES COUNTRIES AND STARTS WARS, WHICH GIVES USA A BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD , THEREFORE IT IS CONSIDERED A CRIME . A US CITIZEN WHO
WAS BORN IN USA CANT GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT POLICIES WHICH MIGHT TREATEN THE FUTURE
@democratsaresmart lol. Is he wrong? USA starts wars....hmmm. 15 of the 19 Hijackers were Saudi's, 2 Iranian, and 2 Afghani's. The attacks were planned in Germany and Spain, and yet we invade Iraq (who had NOTHING/nada to do with CIAl-Qaeda)? HELLO GENIUS!!! We are war mongers. Ever heard of the Gulf of Tonkin? What about the 5 wars we are now involved in? The proof is right there in front of you, but I bet your still gonna refute it. lol
@EndTheFedRes Again, lol. Your jingoism will lead to more stoning/unrest. Listen to you hiding behind "God bless our troops", and "God bless USA". How about the countless women raped and killed along our own border? Maybe the US should spend more time policing/protecting its own borders/citizens. If you truly love our troops then you would help bring them home, and they will protect the citizens of this country. We have to end this militarism we can not afford.
@democratsaresmart What he says is the truth, and that's exactly what we need: Less saying things due to political alliances and ulterior motives and more straightforward truth and facts. The US' reputation (good or bad) will be earned by its actions. If we want to continue to be the world's policemen, then we have to face the fact that we're going to make enemies who don't appreciate our interventionism and that we're going to rack up a hell of a bill to China doing so.
@supinlick2000 CHINA MUST PAY USA FINE FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT! END OF DISCUSSION. I DONT CARE WHAT CONGRESS VOTES OR IF THEY STICK THEIR FINGER UP THE ASS AND THEN SMELL IT , CHINA MUST PAY USA ROYALTIES. IF I OPEN STARBUCKS I MUST PAY ROYALTIES TO HEADOFFICE CHINAS HEADOFFICE IS USA!
Geez, Arianna will say anything. She really doesn't understand the issues, but she knows enough to bluff her way through. She didn't seem to know the difference until Dr. Paul explained it there. Liberalism is getting hammered in America, so progressives are turning to libertarians for support and pretending to be on their side because libertarianism is getting so popular as people become more informed.
The republican party believes in unlimited special benefits to corporations and the continued fucking of the American middle class, that's why this guy won't ever make it on their ballot.
@mdvo5 Partly true. Obama bailed out the auto companies. If you check your dates though, you will see it was Bush who oversaw the bank bailouts... despite what Fox news would like you to believe.
@richis2fast4u oh i know, I'm not for bailing out anyone, if u f"ck up, u f"ck up, better luck next time. and on the bail out thing I'm completely aware u said ballot. the bail out comment was towards the special benefits u said. and i know about bush i wasn't disagreeing about republicans i was trying to note how we've been electing the same people for the past 150 years! regardless of what letter comes after their name! its time for REAL change!
I agree with Ron 100% -- We are in Corporatism (economic-fascism) and we got he by-way of Capitalism.
Marx created the word capitalism, he coined it to describe how the super wealthy industrialists (who were nationalists) were in bed with "big" gov't (of the mid to late 1800's).
Capitalism (according to Marx's definition) means "economic-feudalism"
Corporatists are Globalists (thus "economic-fascism") as fascism means to "spread" and feudalism inteads to stay national -- both are wrong!
@KramerDSP no one disagrees. but no one cares. People are so f-ing ignorant that they cling to their political party like it's a sport team. Politics are so frickin' important and we're all just a bunch of sports fans. I know thousands of people that would never watch Ron Paul because someone told them he's a dumbass. It takes 30 minutes of Ron Paul to get it. But no one listens. Heaven forbid you're wrong. Heaven forbid you may be wrong and it's corporatism, not democracy, or socialism, or - .
@thatguyontheright1 Two objections:1) Corporatism seems to be a term fashioned out of thin air, trying to exaggerate the relationship between the government and corporations. It also tries to deny the faults of capitalism, a system that works so well by fails cyclically in periods called recessions.2) Communism is a political ideology in which things are decided by a commune free of social/political class. No more, no less. I hate it when people misunderstand the goals/function of communism.
@ManjixIchigo Your definition of communism is definitely fashioned out of thin air. If you check your library for an encyclopaedia you'll find that communism aims for a classless society with a common ownership of the means of production. In other words, you are not allowed to own the means by which you produce something. A seamstress doesn't own her needles and thread.
The only real definition of capitalism anyone can agree on is that private entities (you) can own the means of production.
@ManjixIchigo I hate it when people don't make the distinction between Capitalism and Corporatism.
The "free market" everyone refers to is not Free Market Capitalism. It is Corporatism/Crony Capitalism. Corporatism/Crony Capitalism is when our corporations lobby government for private personal government in return for favors. Awarding of contracts, keeping competition out, etc. Take Halliburton, Blackwater, Microsoft, and Government Sach's for example. Cont.
@ManjixIchigo Anyone who thinks billions of dollars spent on thousands of regulations (SEC, Sarbanes–Oxley) is Free Market Capitalism is incapable of critical thinking. We allowed these banks and insurance companies TBTF to privatize their profits and socialize their losses. America is anything but Free Market Capitalism. People to often confuse Capitalism with Corporatism and Crony Capitalism, and there is a huge difference.
@KramerDSP No, corporatism is a species of capitalism. The existence of capital, private property and surplus value are the essential conditions corporatism thrives in. You may say that it is not the "best" form of capitalism or the "free" form of capitalism, but private companies competing for profit (corporations) can only work in capitalist economies.
To abolish corporatism it's not necessary to abolish capitalism, but to to abolish capitalism it is, surely and finally.
hannity is the biggest tool on earth.
gmx1100 1 month ago
It isn't like the founding fathers didn't saw this coming.
lurconis666 2 months ago
non of this matters.....therez no way they'll LET Ron in...
NeedWarForPeace 2 months ago
"As long as we live beyond our means we are destined to live beneath our means"
Such simple logic.And not a truer word ever said.
And before a Keynesian tries to "correct" me. Keep in mind theres two different types of jobs. Those that produce and those that dont. Two ways to borrow money. To borrow to produce or to borrow to consume. With one way you can pay your debt back and the other youre in more trouble.
And consider the consumption hypothesis. What % of goods are bought from abroad?
NicosMind 4 months ago
Ron Paul is out to educate people about the TRUTH, Other politicians just vie for petty political power. End the Fed. End the Wars. Stop the destruction of our currency and livelihoods for the benefits of the corrupt banksters.
bschou 4 months ago
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ValeriyaAviva 4 months ago
This wanker has no idea what Corporatism is. Corporatism makes the best of us work for the rest of us.
BorsBaledwyr 5 months ago
@BorsBaledwyr You mean the rest of "us" to work for the best
qwertypluss 5 months ago
He was right before, dead on..6:18
spicecrop 6 months ago
No one can say shit to Ron Paul because he knows what he is talking about so instead they just silence him in the media. Ron Paul is highly intelligent and will beat anyone in a political debate. Vote Ron Paul.
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RON PAUL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER! TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW EXACTLY RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? OK LETS SAY ALL TROOPS CAME BACK AND THEN WHAT? THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IPHONES AND BLACKBERRIES? DUDE BE A MEN, HOW RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, BE HONEST TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY UR BOOK U NEED CASH , U LOVE POWER, U LOVE CASH, U WILL NEVER CREATE JOBS, U HAVE NO ANSWER!
democratsaresmart 6 months ago
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brzezinski was right in canada. the world is politically awake and are looking the elite in the eyes. we see that paulson is a bastard, we see that brenanke is doing things to hurt us. we see that rockefeller and his pet cfr is bullshit. we see the multinational corrporations running this country, like g.e. we know who the politicians are that's singing off on bills that will destroy the country. we know who has to be voted out. it's time now to truly take back this country. wake up !!
napalmvoododaddy 6 months ago
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napalmvoododaddy 6 months ago
Corporatism IS Fascism
galarius 6 months ago 2
how can it be that there are so many stupid morons running this country, and there is only ONE man who is rediculously smarter than everone else??? can't any other politician see his obvious common sense? or are they smart too, but they're USING the american people for their own personal gains? i'd call that TREASON. and it's time for WE THE PEOPLE to reclaim our country. elect this man.
pamansprewell33 7 months ago 3
@pamansprewell33 I am NOT a republican - but that's generally because they support corporatism and their ideology leans toward fascism. I'd definitely make an exception for Ron Paul, though.
supinlick2000 6 months ago
@supinlick2000 then you're a smart man. ron paul 2012!
pamansprewell33 6 months ago
@pamansprewell33 Thanks. I want to see our country live up to what I expected it to be: A place where you can work hard and better yourself. Capitalism's great as long as we allow for upward mobility and not giving unfair advantages to the wealthy and allowing corporations to run over the majority of the people and the environment. If the US becomes a plutocracy, oligarchy, etc. it's doomed to upheaval. I don't want that to happen.
supinlick2000 6 months ago
Or those who say that Democracy needs reforming well Idk much about that part but if anyone knows I'd like to hear what things should be reformed .
scottweise18 7 months ago
All I hear from everyone is end Capitalism end Capitalism but you see Capitalism is the end of the line as of right now . There aren't any other governments that work well as of now . Communism is a failure, Dictatorships are failures and Monarchies are failures . And Anarchy in the sense we are mature enough to go on without the need for a government isn't even up for a debate becuase its clear we're not . The only thing I see that's more "free" in the sense after Capitalism is Anarchy .
scottweise18 7 months ago
@scottweise18 Norway seems to be doing very well for themselves. Their economy as actually been prospering while most other countries' economies have been sputtering, like ours. They have a mixed economy, with the government owning crucial industries like healthcare, oil and other energy resources. I think that's a very large part of our problem here- we have corporations controlling our vital resources and they have us "over a barrel" and we have to play"bribe the pirate" to appease them.
supinlick2000 6 months ago
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RON PAUL, LETS SAY WE BRING ALL TROOPS HOME AND BECOME A PUSSY COUNTRY AND LET CHINA TELL US WHAT TO DO, TELL US HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE JOBS IF POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B? CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, AMERICANS WILL NEVER WORK LIKE ANTS, NOW TELL ME HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? SHAME ON YOU ! YOU JUST WANNA SELL UR BOOK & U LIE TO AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT JOBS! HOW CONSTITUTION CAN CREATE JOBS? HOW CAN LIBERTY CREATE JOBS? WAKE UP OLD FART SMELL BLACK COFFEE! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
democratsaresmart 8 months ago
ron paul...hes been callin it for years
hitlerscow 8 months ago
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EVERYONE RESEARCH THE (S.968) BILL.... THE FEDERAL GOVT. IS TRYING TO SHUT DOWN THE WEB!!!! PASS THIS ON OR OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH WILL BE GONE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT!!!! CALL YOUR SENATORS AND SAY NO!!!!!!!!!
MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS DUMBED DOWN AMERICA... INTERNET IS THE ONLY WAY "WE THE PEOPLE CAN SPEAK" !!! THE TIME IS NOW!!!! PASS THIS ON!!!!
tek510 8 months ago
RON PAUL IS GOING TO BE PROSECUTED BY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO CALL AMERICAN PEOPLE INVADERS AND INITIATERS OF WARS.
RON PAUL SAID THE USA INVADES COUNTRIES AND STARTS WARS, WHICH GIVES USA A BAD REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD , THEREFORE IT IS CONSIDERED A CRIME . A US CITIZEN WHO
WAS BORN IN USA CANT GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT POLICIES WHICH MIGHT TREATEN THE FUTURE
OF THE COUNTRYS SECURITY .
RON PAUL WILL BE PROSECUTED BY US GOVERNMENT!
democratsaresmart 9 months ago
@democratsaresmart you are a retarded demorat. dems are no different than repubs.
BEARARMZ 8 months ago
@democratsaresmart lol. Is he wrong? USA starts wars....hmmm. 15 of the 19 Hijackers were Saudi's, 2 Iranian, and 2 Afghani's. The attacks were planned in Germany and Spain, and yet we invade Iraq (who had NOTHING/nada to do with CIAl-Qaeda)? HELLO GENIUS!!! We are war mongers. Ever heard of the Gulf of Tonkin? What about the 5 wars we are now involved in? The proof is right there in front of you, but I bet your still gonna refute it. lol
EndTheFedRes 8 months ago
@EndTheFedRes YOU COWARD , I AM A WOMEN, DO U KNOW HOW TALIBAN STONES WOMEN TO DEATH? SHAME ON YOU PUSSY, UR SAME AS RON PAUL PUSSY.
GOD BLESS AMERICAN TROOPS , GOD BLESS USA!
democratsaresmart 8 months ago
@EndTheFedRes Again, lol. Your jingoism will lead to more stoning/unrest. Listen to you hiding behind "God bless our troops", and "God bless USA". How about the countless women raped and killed along our own border? Maybe the US should spend more time policing/protecting its own borders/citizens. If you truly love our troops then you would help bring them home, and they will protect the citizens of this country. We have to end this militarism we can not afford.
EndTheFedRes 8 months ago
@democratsaresmart What he says is the truth, and that's exactly what we need: Less saying things due to political alliances and ulterior motives and more straightforward truth and facts. The US' reputation (good or bad) will be earned by its actions. If we want to continue to be the world's policemen, then we have to face the fact that we're going to make enemies who don't appreciate our interventionism and that we're going to rack up a hell of a bill to China doing so.
supinlick2000 6 months ago
@supinlick2000 CHINA MUST PAY USA FINE FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT! END OF DISCUSSION. I DONT CARE WHAT CONGRESS VOTES OR IF THEY STICK THEIR FINGER UP THE ASS AND THEN SMELL IT , CHINA MUST PAY USA ROYALTIES. IF I OPEN STARBUCKS I MUST PAY ROYALTIES TO HEADOFFICE CHINAS HEADOFFICE IS USA!
democratsaresmart 6 months ago
They are standing around all awkward like they are naked all of a sudden
LifeEnderX 9 months ago
RON PAUL , I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU! UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL
NEVER BE A PUSSY COUNTRY!
HOW DO YOU HAVE ENERGY IN A DAYTIME , IF YOU WAKE UP TWICE A NITE
TO TAKE A PISS, WHAT ANTIAGING DRUGS DO YOU TAKE AND HOW IS IT
GOING TO AFFECT CHEMICALS IN UR BRAIN, I MEAN TESTOSTERON LEVEL,
DO YOU TAKE TESTOSTERONE INGECTIONS TO BE A MEN ?
democratsaresmart 9 months ago
Great clip.
RON PAUL 2012!
MikeSears100 9 months ago
Geez, Arianna will say anything. She really doesn't understand the issues, but she knows enough to bluff her way through. She didn't seem to know the difference until Dr. Paul explained it there. Liberalism is getting hammered in America, so progressives are turning to libertarians for support and pretending to be on their side because libertarianism is getting so popular as people become more informed.
surfer53 9 months ago
The republican party believes in unlimited special benefits to corporations and the continued fucking of the American middle class, that's why this guy won't ever make it on their ballot.
richis2fast4u 9 months ago
@richis2fast4 u not that I'm disagreeing but obama was the one to sign off on the bail outs.
mdvo5 9 months ago
@mdvo5 Partly true. Obama bailed out the auto companies. If you check your dates though, you will see it was Bush who oversaw the bank bailouts... despite what Fox news would like you to believe.
richis2fast4u 9 months ago
@mdvo5 Plus I said ballot first, not Bailout.
richis2fast4u 9 months ago
@richis2fast4u oh i know, I'm not for bailing out anyone, if u f"ck up, u f"ck up, better luck next time. and on the bail out thing I'm completely aware u said ballot. the bail out comment was towards the special benefits u said. and i know about bush i wasn't disagreeing about republicans i was trying to note how we've been electing the same people for the past 150 years! regardless of what letter comes after their name! its time for REAL change!
mdvo5 9 months ago
FUCK CORPORATISM
immortality2186 10 months ago
You Go RON!
BiggerFatterBlog 10 months ago
See! There are true American heroes walking the earth, today!
You know what to do come 2012 America!!!!!!
FlyingFish112 1 year ago 40
i vote for RON PAUL. i would like to see him stop the fed and give the job back to the american people that is the goverment. it is a world problem
7kingwood 1 year ago
i vote for RON PAUL. i would like to see him stop the fed and give the job back to the american people that is the goverment.
7kingwood 1 year ago
Obama is a corporatist!
darklordsma 1 year ago
I agree with Ron 100% -- We are in Corporatism (economic-fascism) and we got he by-way of Capitalism.
Marx created the word capitalism, he coined it to describe how the super wealthy industrialists (who were nationalists) were in bed with "big" gov't (of the mid to late 1800's).
Capitalism (according to Marx's definition) means "economic-feudalism"
Corporatists are Globalists (thus "economic-fascism") as fascism means to "spread" and feudalism inteads to stay national -- both are wrong!
OctoBox 1 year ago 2
You can't disagree, IMO. It is what it is. Pure Corporativism!
mit26chell 1 year ago
Does anyone disagree that what we have now is really a form of Corporatism, not Capitalism?
KramerDSP 1 year ago 74
@KramerDSP
nope,,nothings changed at all
the companies want everything to stay the same
so they can continue destroying planet earth
I SAY THE VENUS PROJECT AS A GOOD SOLUTION
pillow661 1 year ago
@pillow661 no, thats a horrible 'solution'
theoldways11 9 months ago
@KramerDSP only idiots disagree, the facts are overwhelming
bonfirejovi 1 year ago
@KramerDSP no one disagrees. but no one cares. People are so f-ing ignorant that they cling to their political party like it's a sport team. Politics are so frickin' important and we're all just a bunch of sports fans. I know thousands of people that would never watch Ron Paul because someone told them he's a dumbass. It takes 30 minutes of Ron Paul to get it. But no one listens. Heaven forbid you're wrong. Heaven forbid you may be wrong and it's corporatism, not democracy, or socialism, or - .
plasticcouch 10 months ago
@KramerDSP And Corporatism in our form can be seen as a form of communism.
thatguyontheright1 9 months ago
@thatguyontheright1 Two objections:1) Corporatism seems to be a term fashioned out of thin air, trying to exaggerate the relationship between the government and corporations. It also tries to deny the faults of capitalism, a system that works so well by fails cyclically in periods called recessions.2) Communism is a political ideology in which things are decided by a commune free of social/political class. No more, no less. I hate it when people misunderstand the goals/function of communism.
ManjixIchigo 9 months ago
@ManjixIchigo Your definition of communism is definitely fashioned out of thin air. If you check your library for an encyclopaedia you'll find that communism aims for a classless society with a common ownership of the means of production. In other words, you are not allowed to own the means by which you produce something. A seamstress doesn't own her needles and thread.
The only real definition of capitalism anyone can agree on is that private entities (you) can own the means of production.
MrGuvnah 9 months ago
@ManjixIchigo I hate it when people don't make the distinction between Capitalism and Corporatism.
The "free market" everyone refers to is not Free Market Capitalism. It is Corporatism/Crony Capitalism. Corporatism/Crony Capitalism is when our corporations lobby government for private personal government in return for favors. Awarding of contracts, keeping competition out, etc. Take Halliburton, Blackwater, Microsoft, and Government Sach's for example. Cont.
EndTheFedRes 8 months ago
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@ManjixIchigo Anyone who thinks billions of dollars spent on thousands of regulations (SEC, Sarbanes–Oxley) is Free Market Capitalism is incapable of critical thinking. We allowed these banks and insurance companies TBTF to privatize their profits and socialize their losses. America is anything but Free Market Capitalism. People to often confuse Capitalism with Corporatism and Crony Capitalism, and there is a huge difference.
EndTheFedRes 8 months ago
@KramerDSP Utterly agree. And it was essentially put into place by those cute progressive liberals Wilson & Roosevelt.
nachodaddy 9 months ago
@KramerDSP you still have a few that confuse this form of economic policies with capitalism and socialism.
Xenthoid 8 months ago
@KramerDSP
Read Chomsky, my friend. He claims we have never had anything resembling a free market.
metalguitar311 7 months ago
@KramerDSP No, corporatism is a species of capitalism. The existence of capital, private property and surplus value are the essential conditions corporatism thrives in. You may say that it is not the "best" form of capitalism or the "free" form of capitalism, but private companies competing for profit (corporations) can only work in capitalist economies.
To abolish corporatism it's not necessary to abolish capitalism, but to to abolish capitalism it is, surely and finally.
SunsetStorm1 2 months ago
@KramerDSP I do, because corporatism is merely capitalism in decay.
UtubeGestapo 1 month ago