Interesting issue here. It sounds like the drums are tuned to maximize the room effect. The upside is that they do sound good on their own. The downside is that the high tuning which optimizes the room may not translate well within the context of a song. It would be great if you could try playing a straight ahead beat with a lower tuning. With that said, your room sound is really good. I am a big fan of natural reverb. All the best.
Hi there and thanks for the comment....indeed the tuning and the kit interacts in a great way with the room, however it was not done in purpose....we recorded about 10 different kits and players for this dvd and the whole concept was to respect in an absolute way their approach to tuning, so this is the way D.T. actually tunes his kit in order to get his "melodic" tone ..i hope you'll check the full video when it's released in a few days and make your conclusions. cheers!!!
Very nice sound....but the mic capsules should be 90 degrees relative to eachother and closer together.....Also, a nice, solid BEAT would have better demosnstrated the sound as opposed to three and a half minutes of noodling.
@TheSonicArk ah nice! good sounding room. I wish there wouldve been a little more bangin on those drums for this particular video and room but hey, its all cool.
It is great to have the oportunity to discuss those things here and i am glad that our video made you wonder about the meaning of the setup , however i can promise you a full and detailed explanation when our dvd is out....thanks for your interest and for taking the time to read this.
It is great to have the oportunity to discuss those things here and i am glad that our video made you wonder about the meaning of the setup , however i can promise you a full and detailed explanation when our dvd is out....thanks for your interest and for taking the time to read this.
However the basic principles will always be the same.....the differences in time and volume the sound arrives at the 2 capsules. As far as Decca Tree...it's funny you mentioned that because actually what i had in mind was a combination of a spaced ortf setting with a center mic creating a kind of a reversed decca tree (however much moer directive).
And that's because we must always concider that all these non conicdent stereo techniques have a classical recording background and what this means is that the actual distances, angles etc are figured having an enormous in size sound source (orchestra) in a big , sometimes infinite as far as early reflections are concerned, space. That is why when we actually want to use them in modern instruments and moderate sized spaces we must try to "translate" and adapt them to our specific needs....
Also one of the reasons i decided to give this name ("an alternate take on ORTF") is the fact that the actual body and head of the drummer acts as buffle between the 2 mics as it is in a variation of the original ORTF. However we must have in mind the term "alternative approach".....
Well, ofcourse this is NOT an ORTF setup in the way this specific famous and industry standard microphone placement was figured by its developers......however , and as the title of this video implies it is a spaced stereo placement based on the original ORTF.....and it is based mainly on the fact of the angled capsules facing the outer edges of the source, which is IMO the main characteristic of the ORTF technique.
beautifuly played and beautifuly tuned, i sat and listened to this for ages. it reminds me of Ringo's drums in The Word on Rubber Soul.
moo5255 2 days ago
Beautiful drumming, drum kit, room and recording
FreedomBeats 1 week ago
BACK IN BLACK
musicteacher912 1 week ago
i like the overhead mic sound , how would they preform with a metal drummer
KORoverkill 2 weeks ago
Interesting issue here. It sounds like the drums are tuned to maximize the room effect. The upside is that they do sound good on their own. The downside is that the high tuning which optimizes the room may not translate well within the context of a song. It would be great if you could try playing a straight ahead beat with a lower tuning. With that said, your room sound is really good. I am a big fan of natural reverb. All the best.
SonorSonicFan 2 weeks ago 2
@SonorSonicFan
Hi there and thanks for the comment....indeed the tuning and the kit interacts in a great way with the room, however it was not done in purpose....we recorded about 10 different kits and players for this dvd and the whole concept was to respect in an absolute way their approach to tuning, so this is the way D.T. actually tunes his kit in order to get his "melodic" tone ..i hope you'll check the full video when it's released in a few days and make your conclusions. cheers!!!
TheSonicArk 2 weeks ago
damn those toms are tuned high as fuck lol
TonyOnDrums92 2 weeks ago
Dude. The idea is that this is atmospheric acoustic music. This isn't set up for a "beat". This is so creative. SO creative. I like it.
Jem7Vellz 3 weeks ago
Sounds so sweet. Nice!
chicslt 3 weeks ago
that shit
roggeriocsouza 1 month ago
а сколько ты использовал микрофонов?
TheVovano 1 month ago
ОФИГЕТЬ!
TheVovano 1 month ago
Very nice!
richbrutus 2 months ago
thats beautiful
TheSchoolsux345 3 months ago
two words to describe that sound: fucking lush :-) nice!
taids 3 months ago
Very nice sound....but the mic capsules should be 90 degrees relative to eachother and closer together.....Also, a nice, solid BEAT would have better demosnstrated the sound as opposed to three and a half minutes of noodling.
ROCKSTARCRANE 3 months ago 3
Very nice sound....but the mic capsules should be 90 degrees relative to eachother and closer together.....
ROCKSTARCRANE 3 months ago
Play some Zeppelin! lol its like, the perfect room for it... dangit!
azombiestool 4 months ago
Assuming youre not using any verbs on those over heads, thats a real nice sounding room ya got there :)
azombiestool 4 months ago
@azombiestool
thanks!!!.....no there is no artificial reverb of any kind in this recording .....what you hear is the room.
TheSonicArk 4 months ago
@TheSonicArk ah nice! good sounding room. I wish there wouldve been a little more bangin on those drums for this particular video and room but hey, its all cool.
azombiestool 4 months ago
great sound! which mics are you using in this video?
snap0r4z 5 months ago
@snap0r4z
thanks!!! The microphones are mentioned at the beginning of the video (maybe the text is scrolling a bit fast.....sorry about that)
TheSonicArk 4 months ago
It is great to have the oportunity to discuss those things here and i am glad that our video made you wonder about the meaning of the setup , however i can promise you a full and detailed explanation when our dvd is out....thanks for your interest and for taking the time to read this.
TheSonicArk 5 months ago
It is great to have the oportunity to discuss those things here and i am glad that our video made you wonder about the meaning of the setup , however i can promise you a full and detailed explanation when our dvd is out....thanks for your interest and for taking the time to read this.
TheSonicArk 5 months ago
However the basic principles will always be the same.....the differences in time and volume the sound arrives at the 2 capsules. As far as Decca Tree...it's funny you mentioned that because actually what i had in mind was a combination of a spaced ortf setting with a center mic creating a kind of a reversed decca tree (however much moer directive).
TheSonicArk 5 months ago
And that's because we must always concider that all these non conicdent stereo techniques have a classical recording background and what this means is that the actual distances, angles etc are figured having an enormous in size sound source (orchestra) in a big , sometimes infinite as far as early reflections are concerned, space. That is why when we actually want to use them in modern instruments and moderate sized spaces we must try to "translate" and adapt them to our specific needs....
TheSonicArk 5 months ago
Also one of the reasons i decided to give this name ("an alternate take on ORTF") is the fact that the actual body and head of the drummer acts as buffle between the 2 mics as it is in a variation of the original ORTF. However we must have in mind the term "alternative approach".....
TheSonicArk 5 months ago
Well, ofcourse this is NOT an ORTF setup in the way this specific famous and industry standard microphone placement was figured by its developers......however , and as the title of this video implies it is a spaced stereo placement based on the original ORTF.....and it is based mainly on the fact of the angled capsules facing the outer edges of the source, which is IMO the main characteristic of the ORTF technique.
TheSonicArk 5 months ago
Doesn't ORTF have to be 17 cm apart? If you add a third mic you are in the realm of deca tree.
doudeman 5 months ago
sorry mate, but this isn't ORTF....
estudiohighend 5 months ago
@estudiohighend "an alternate take..." :)
pedroinfame 5 months ago
ox ellinas!
coreyfromtheband 5 months ago
Dimitri eisai 8eos TELOS!!!!
menelaosvak 5 months ago