Good food for thought. I would have thought that more torture in movies was just Hollywood pushing the envelope as usual. But I think you're right. It's getting so speaking out against torture makes you "unAmerican." And that's a sure sign of fanatical patriotism.
People remain submissive and powers remain intact through binary thought patterns. False dichotomies like us vs. them, bad vs. good. he illusion of objective value keeps people doing "what is right" rather than acting out of personal value and sovereignty. Might makes right only as long as certain people know what is right more than others. All systems are in place for control.
9/11 and resultant Bush exploitation will hopefully reverse the tone of law enforcement that has emerged under his watch. This new administration will be a defining test of our system, to see how much they unwind and how much the sheeple will press for it beyond the elective act. I hope we as a collective utilize the tools we have to effect change to unwind the lunacy Bush has contributed. We live in a system that still gives us an active voice if we just use it.
A Clockwork Orange was banned in England for a few decades, supposedly because of the gang violence. I think the real reason it was banded had to do with what became of Alex's henchmen who didn't get arrested. They became POLICE OFFICERS!
And Solomon hired Mason's (stone builders) to build that temple, didn't he? I wonder why these religious Idiots can't seem to correlate Solomon's (mason built) temple with the modern day mason built temples (otherwise masonic temples).
If you really want to beat down these religious idiots, then I suggest to start reading their religious "Law" book.
(1 Kings 10:14) Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.
(Revelation 13:18)Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Hmmm. Interesting, you make some good points. However, if there is reason to believe that a hostile person has information and could be broken down to give that info and in doing so would save countless lives....why not? Would it not be morally wrong to let others die when you COULD save them. Dont call me a monster, Im just trying to think of "the greater good" scenario.
But how do you know for sure that that person actually HAS the information you want? That person could actually know nothing and give you false information just so you could stop torturing him. In fact, once someone is tortured he could be made to say ANYTHING, especially falsehoods. That's how it was during the salem witch trials; no matter how proposterous the accusation, ppl would confess to being witches because they were tortured into doing so.
I agree. I should have said that the person is proven to know something first. Like maybe an obvious target who is been seen with a person of interest and we need the whereabouts of that person in order to save lives. Nothing to lose in that situation, IMO.
But there are hundreds of different alternatives. There's even a way to get info just by being NICE to the dude (it's called the "soft touch" or the "sweet touch" I think).
Or you can do it like batman does it, non-violent fear and intimidation. I'd do that one 'cuz it seems more fun lol ;-)
I am so subcribing to your channel... You are great, I wish more people would have the strength, courage and will to SPEAK... We can change this messed up world, we just need to unite and form a wall against the tyranny and opresion...
It starts by being active in local politics. Information and transparency will do a lot to put pressure on our representatives, thus shaping change in a positive way. Once that goes, it's game over. I may be too optimistic but I think the net is essential to help steer things into a better direction along with our incoming administration who is far from perfect but is really setting a new tone away from Bush and pals. Let's keep a tight leash on them and keep the pressure on.
where are the studies showing that torture is ineffective. I am against torture even if it is effective but I just want to know why it's so obvious that torture is ineffective.
all of us need to be united!!! we need to form a group online we can change this nation for the better. someone with some organizing skills and computer skills should make the first step... then millions will follow
nothings changed look back a couple hundred years what was their attitude to torture How many people turned up to watch a good ol hanging The video is right when says that torture is porn but porn for the masses
Fantastic job man, great music and narration, I love the style and easy digestion of some horrible but necessary truths. Thanks again, I guess we'll keep celebrating the great work of all you crazy YouTubicide Bombers until we win this sh-t and chill the f--k out... :P
Calling torture a means of power awards torture a meaning, however irrelevantly. In fact, torture is always unmotivated, useless, irrelevant, heinous and the worst thing someone can do. In fact, the torturer is worse off than his victim since the torturer has lost his humanity absolutely in this most heinous crime.
Phew, a youtube space with intelligence & wisdom. Well done, some good points. So why the hell are so many other people scattered around youtube insane? Perhaps the stupid & egoistic are cocksure thus speak louder than the calming wise ones, so its purely non-representative. People here need to join forces.
i like it, some of the clips are too short, starts to remind me subliminal stuff, that was annoying, otherwise kewl stuff, nice clips from baraka btw :)
Can wait until your goverment starts using widespread torture against the main populace then maybe they might listen shame to all those countries practising torture , it doesn't work and the ticking time bomb scenario is bull when was the last time torture saved the day in this kind of situation ?
Well done, and thank you for only citing the message of the films mentioned and not the plot, I almost didn't watch thinking you were going to spoil Clockwork for me.
Well Done!
HopiTrails1 1 year ago
Good food for thought. I would have thought that more torture in movies was just Hollywood pushing the envelope as usual. But I think you're right. It's getting so speaking out against torture makes you "unAmerican." And that's a sure sign of fanatical patriotism.
TheIronWebRocks 2 years ago 4
there's a word for fanatical patriotism. fascism
spraydoodoofart 1 year ago
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your all fucking retarded if you kill me i kill you dumbfuck thats the way it is get over it and stop trying to act smart fatass
ninlandon 2 years ago
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collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
People remain submissive and powers remain intact through binary thought patterns. False dichotomies like us vs. them, bad vs. good. he illusion of objective value keeps people doing "what is right" rather than acting out of personal value and sovereignty. Might makes right only as long as certain people know what is right more than others. All systems are in place for control.
Great video. 5 stars.
universatile 2 years ago 3
9/11 and resultant Bush exploitation will hopefully reverse the tone of law enforcement that has emerged under his watch. This new administration will be a defining test of our system, to see how much they unwind and how much the sheeple will press for it beyond the elective act. I hope we as a collective utilize the tools we have to effect change to unwind the lunacy Bush has contributed. We live in a system that still gives us an active voice if we just use it.
jonstewartfanboy 3 years ago
A Clockwork Orange was banned in England for a few decades, supposedly because of the gang violence. I think the real reason it was banded had to do with what became of Alex's henchmen who didn't get arrested. They became POLICE OFFICERS!
geezzerboy 3 years ago
yay se7en!
wolfgar45 3 years ago
all the answers are in Nietzsche and Rand...
activist75 3 years ago
Don't you mean Randi, as in James Randi the Magician? I hope you don't mean that total lunatic Ayn Rand!
geezzerboy 3 years ago
Hey Brainwashed One,
You know that a lot of people have been brainwashed through beliefs that were handed down by Idiots, right?
For example:
We know that people who pay money to established church leaders are brainwashed idiots.
And we know that King Solomon built the temple for some "Lord" that church leaders worship to justify their false profit, right?
greggprovenza 3 years ago
continued:
And Solomon hired Mason's (stone builders) to build that temple, didn't he? I wonder why these religious Idiots can't seem to correlate Solomon's (mason built) temple with the modern day mason built temples (otherwise masonic temples).
greggprovenza 3 years ago
If you really want to beat down these religious idiots, then I suggest to start reading their religious "Law" book.
(1 Kings 10:14) Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.
(Revelation 13:18)Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
greggprovenza 3 years ago
Now if you hate religious leaders and and other judges of law (like I do) then lets beat the pigs down with this kind of information, ok?
I'm tired of watching dogmatic pigs (cops) serving and protecting their doughnut money.
,Gregg
greggprovenza 3 years ago
Hmmm. Interesting, you make some good points. However, if there is reason to believe that a hostile person has information and could be broken down to give that info and in doing so would save countless lives....why not? Would it not be morally wrong to let others die when you COULD save them. Dont call me a monster, Im just trying to think of "the greater good" scenario.
UcanbeGOD 3 years ago
But how do you know for sure that that person actually HAS the information you want? That person could actually know nothing and give you false information just so you could stop torturing him. In fact, once someone is tortured he could be made to say ANYTHING, especially falsehoods. That's how it was during the salem witch trials; no matter how proposterous the accusation, ppl would confess to being witches because they were tortured into doing so.
evilmick66 3 years ago
I agree. I should have said that the person is proven to know something first. Like maybe an obvious target who is been seen with a person of interest and we need the whereabouts of that person in order to save lives. Nothing to lose in that situation, IMO.
UcanbeGOD 3 years ago
But there are hundreds of different alternatives. There's even a way to get info just by being NICE to the dude (it's called the "soft touch" or the "sweet touch" I think).
Or you can do it like batman does it, non-violent fear and intimidation. I'd do that one 'cuz it seems more fun lol ;-)
evilmick66 3 years ago
Tourture, I don't know why people think it works.
MatthewLeee 4 years ago
i think it's like the lottery. its worked a few times, so what the hell, lets buy another ticket.
bimbotheclown 3 years ago
I am so subcribing to your channel... You are great, I wish more people would have the strength, courage and will to SPEAK... We can change this messed up world, we just need to unite and form a wall against the tyranny and opresion...
SadShade 4 years ago
It starts by being active in local politics. Information and transparency will do a lot to put pressure on our representatives, thus shaping change in a positive way. Once that goes, it's game over. I may be too optimistic but I think the net is essential to help steer things into a better direction along with our incoming administration who is far from perfect but is really setting a new tone away from Bush and pals. Let's keep a tight leash on them and keep the pressure on.
jonstewartfanboy 3 years ago 3
nice post.
glenrich84 4 years ago
where are the studies showing that torture is ineffective. I am against torture even if it is effective but I just want to know why it's so obvious that torture is ineffective.
wobbles17 4 years ago
because people lie to get out of torture, because torture is a punishment without proven guilt for example.
SecessioPlebis 4 years ago 6
I meant formic acid
stupidnameyeah 4 years ago
society is a sea of ants drowning in their own folic acid
stupidnameyeah 4 years ago
are you schizo???
pairunoyd 4 years ago
i wish everyone saw things this way.
Titan85c 4 years ago
all of us need to be united!!! we need to form a group online we can change this nation for the better. someone with some organizing skills and computer skills should make the first step... then millions will follow
atskater99 4 years ago 3
nothings changed look back a couple hundred years what was their attitude to torture How many people turned up to watch a good ol hanging The video is right when says that torture is porn but porn for the masses
zignog 4 years ago
Some scum criminals need their Skulls Cracked,Bring night stick back,let cops clean up human Garbage.its called Laws.
louis12346 4 years ago
The problem is that it's not being used on the scum but on the people who publically shout about the scum that currently controls our country.
yourmomaaa 4 years ago 4
WOW, what an eye opener! Very well done!
hervia 4 years ago
great video
truthseeker911 4 years ago
Boo ya! AWSOME video, thank you thank you thank you. Took the words out of my mouth!
breuer85 5 years ago
When they say "you must walk a mile in another mans shoes in order to know him", they don't mean on his face, with his corked boots.
bflatkitty 5 years ago
Fantastic job man, great music and narration, I love the style and easy digestion of some horrible but necessary truths. Thanks again, I guess we'll keep celebrating the great work of all you crazy YouTubicide Bombers until we win this sh-t and chill the f--k out... :P
Cheers,
BK
BlackKrishna 5 years ago
thanks so much for your efforts to enlighten.
feels good to find a 'no spin' zone.
to think that so many out there are unaffected by what is happening today is mind numbing and unacceptable.
but the movement IS growing, stay strong.
karlaelisa 5 years ago
Nice dictation, I managed to sit through the whole thing. I fully agree wth your message as well.
Humanzy 5 years ago
Well done. Just brilliant!!!
razelle77 5 years ago
Calling torture a means of power awards torture a meaning, however irrelevantly. In fact, torture is always unmotivated, useless, irrelevant, heinous and the worst thing someone can do. In fact, the torturer is worse off than his victim since the torturer has lost his humanity absolutely in this most heinous crime.
mattisyahu 5 years ago
good i'm all ready a fan
tkstka 5 years ago
That was great.
evodevo69 5 years ago
Phew, a youtube space with intelligence & wisdom. Well done, some good points. So why the hell are so many other people scattered around youtube insane? Perhaps the stupid & egoistic are cocksure thus speak louder than the calming wise ones, so its purely non-representative. People here need to join forces.
earthacademy 5 years ago
Good job man.
5853angelo 5 years ago
torture and death has been the means of power for almost 10.000 years.
great show though
EgoDiversion 5 years ago
Doesn't make it right.
TriaMaxwell 5 years ago
no.. not at all.. all i meant was that it is sometimes made out to be a recent change, which it is not
EgoDiversion 5 years ago
I totally agree. And I never watched lost.
Druesling 5 years ago
good job my friend, a huge step in the right direction for anyone who views it.
consensusSapientium 5 years ago
yeah man! gotta love it when you speak out!
cheeryvibez 5 years ago
i like it, some of the clips are too short, starts to remind me subliminal stuff, that was annoying, otherwise kewl stuff, nice clips from baraka btw :)
snailout 5 years ago
excelent job wrayer!!!really well put toether! i like the new style!
merrykite 5 years ago
Can wait until your goverment starts using widespread torture against the main populace then maybe they might listen shame to all those countries practising torture , it doesn't work and the ticking time bomb scenario is bull when was the last time torture saved the day in this kind of situation ?
fmm3 5 years ago
You're sick!
mayartay 5 years ago
We need the power of love to overcome the love of power... Like Jimi said.
and btw u really are sick
odomaniac 4 years ago 3
nice job.
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
Well done, and thank you for only citing the message of the films mentioned and not the plot, I almost didn't watch thinking you were going to spoil Clockwork for me.
OoogieBoogie 5 years ago