MW3 In Depth - Kick vs. Grip

[pokerface179]

you should have done the lsw without kick or grip

[mahilo3550]

what about stability? if that's even available for LMG's...

[TeddysMind]

you should have put in a screeny on w/o any attatchments

[gold3263301]

3:55 Dat visual recoil

[15vinp]

try the L86 with grip and thermal!! NO RECOIL!!!!!!!

[gold3263301]

@15vinp There's still a little bit of recoil.

[MigyRock1]

I thought tha kick was for hip fire?

[GrabBagEntertainment]

@MigyRock1 no no no. kick and grip both just reduce recoil in general

[456MrPeople]

Drift0r you don't have to level your weapons up. Just test them in private match.

[FormThisWay]

I use the PKP with a silencer and Kick, it works so well, I have gotten triples one after another. Cool story, bro.

[trikster102]

When you were showing the charts with the grip / kick / grip + kick, you should have shown what the spread was with nothing at all on the gun too.

[ratchet132]

Should've also did it vanilla.

[hydrakson]

grip and thermal

[TheFreakvideo]

@hydrakson = ownage xD

[buddieschiknful]

You could just do the tests in a private match, where everything for every gun is unlocked :P

[Sofeler]

12awinstinct proved that the silencer does not reduce kick. Thats just a myth.

[RoflCopter2207]

Thermal is best for l86 lsw

[onurhbk]

@RoflCopter2207 thermal dafuq?



[EFC4L1F3]

@onurhbk It's true! It actually works on light machine guns. It's like using a sniper!

[Beastlychin]

now everyone is gonna go prone :P

[Vynlori1]

all wepons have less spread and recoil on your stance



[itsericnesbihal]

Subbed

[TheAaronninja]

Every thing

[TheAaronninja]

Just play private matches to get all guns and every for it

[SeraphianKnight]

5:55

The LSW 86

[JonnyTCS]

with the MG46, if you use kick and grip the fire rate lowers for some reason

[xDisasterShotzx]

@JonnyTCS you mean mg36

[JonnyTCS]

@xDisasterShotzx yeah

[ZeStealthyPwn]

@JonnyTCS That's likely intentional because the recoil is so low that it would be far to easy to get the kill and have a huge advantage due to damage as well as the amount of ammo.

[TheDuelatdawn]

@JonnyTCS ballance

[Underdog74745]

@JonnyTCS

MG 36*?

heard it was patched now

[HugeyBaby]

@JonnyTCS grip lowers the fire rate with every lmg but not by much, excluding the mg36 which lowers a lot

[AthleticNerd20]

@JonnyTCS MG36

[ThePussukka]

Only grip is the best

[K9Zangetsu]

Should have compared with no proficiency or attachment

[Swordie100]

Does it even matter when standing/crouching? You target is dead in 4 bullets fully automatic with this "RECOIL" Lmao. xD

[Jus275]

Why do you need to level up the guns? in a private match on xbl you have everything unlocked...

[powe300]

Why not kick and grip? 

[MultiPSGamer]

@powe300 Kick and grip works just like grip only

[Mugetsu309]

@powe300 because most people think that the iron sight on light machine guns are bad so they use other sights but since the recoil is bad as well he made this video to decide whether kick is better or the grip

[zik1on1]

Nice !!!

TNX

[TheZaw55555]

omfg so glad i found this channel

[mrdbacker]

thermal+foregrip= no kick

TRY IT YOURSELVES!!!!

It works with ANY LMG

[REACHXD]

Tell him to go into private match and youll get all weapons and attachments THUMPS UP so that he can see

[kingplutoxiao1]

The maps in this game are small? Did he just say the maps were small?

[iseeRedpeople1]

@kingplutoxiao1 yes they are small

[collin2677]

nice



[collin2677]

jo

[collin2677]

cool

[TheAlexandro112]

i really pruchade that u are doing this videos, thansk alot :)

[TheJermely]

@deadlymigit nobodys better than tmart

[hrabia99332]

grip reduces fire rate, you should inform about that ;d

[hrabia99332]

you tested only this weapon because you didnt lvl up the guns ?

have you heard about private march :) ?

[deadlymigit]

You're like a better version of TmarTn and xboxahoy. Subbed for the awesome content.

[PianoGuyDreZhakari]

In game stats are bullshit . People rip real stats off the PC version of dis.

[DrummerLordProdigy]

Every gun has recoil.. Get over it! I use MP7, Kick, and Rapid fire. Akimbo Skorpions.

[VanillaKilla8]

@DrummerLordProdigy - every gun has recoil! *lists guns that have no recoil*

[DrummerLordProdigy]

@VanillaKilla8 lol

[iMdaAsSasin]

why not use both on the same gun :d

[boykiller303]

wat about with nothing on

[FirstBigSmily]

I TINK IF U USE 1 OF IT ITS THE MAXIMUM CHANGIN EFFECT, IF U USE BOTH 1 OF IT ...KICK OR GRIP LOOSING THE EFFECT

[runabout111]

A grip is going to reduce side to side spread, whereas kick is going to reduce vertical recoil.

[axela619]

you didnt do a control

[MVStringer]

I dont understand why you didnt do this in private match where you have all attachments and proficiencies??

[likerz1]

@MVStringer it was a private match herpderp

[MVStringer]

@likerz1 yeah but he said from :20 to :30 that he didnt have all the attachments unlocked so he couldnt test them out......idk it just confused me haha

[TheMelnTeam]

Put stalker on LMG so that you can move around corners while ADS and still actually be moving. Really offsets that ADS time issue and makes them amazing.

[EpicFknBrutality]

@TheMelnTeam THIS! Ever since MW3 came out I've been trying to tell people that... the LMGs are close quarters beasts with Stalker attached, strafing around corners quickly already aiming down the sights and spraying multiple enemies down and still having plenty of ammo left in the mag for the other enemies coming to join in on the action.

[skelliToNboiii93]

so its saying dropshot for full accuracy

[natedogg31499]

Why don't we use both?

[jmhizon83]

Rapid Fire sucks.

[PureVimp]

try Kick and Silencer. Im playing with them and i think they are best.

[BalloonGaming]

@PureVimp silencer doesnt affect recoil

[L1QU1DSCHW4RTZ]

@PureVimp I know right? I LOVE the spas silenced!

[Pilot853]

@PureVimp The Silencer doesn't reduce the recoil, only the muzzle flash

[zachwebb1100]

the rsass also has less recoil when in prone

[THEARBITER1236]

It depends on what LMG you use, the PKP has no recoil which means you don't need kick or grip, the downside being it does very little damage (the reason why I run rapid fire).

[3628800258]

should have shown how much recoil without grip or kick.... FAIL

[Silence921]

everywhere I go online there is some kind of text enhance (ads from highlighting text). God damn it's everywhere look at the amount of views even that has an ad

[BLUEDEVIL3601]

You should also have a control, like an L86 with no attachments to compare

[prairieboys10]

the game guides for weapon stats are bull shit. they say that the mk46 is the slowest log when it is the fastest. go check it out

[BrooklynAlchemist]

Dude your really good at this annalyzing for the guns and tech in mw3,im glad i subscribed :)

[MrBTV1]

lol i saw a guy use kick and grip at the same time

[noobkid12]

Thats how grips in real life affect weapons, it lessens horizontal recoil.

[darvader00]

lol "actual guns"

[4242SLAYER]

nice vids

[TheModernMaxi]

You doing grip vs non grip on shotguns??? :P

[MrKinkyBurritos]

this seemed really boring to watch

[HMKfilms360]

the stance accuracy thing affects snipers too

[MrGamerPeanut1]

but doesn't grip give you better accuracy

[ZaneRiverside]

@Ammar88ist Not all. It's either Range or Damage you don't get. And you also don't get the one that holds your breath, and another one I'm forgetting.

[Ammar88ist]

@ZaneRiverside ahan k ty bud

[Ammar88ist]

ummm, max specialist bonus gives all perks + PROFICIENCIES, is the latter part true????

[IQ567891234]

@Ammar88ist yes, the specialist bonus gives you all proficiencies other than 2 attachments

[Ammar88ist]

@IQ567891234 oh ok ty

[XXChickenBoyysXX]

On MG36 for some reason grip slows the fire rate but I cant really notice it on other LMGs

[GoldeneyeBitch]

Kick stops the bullets from kicking up and grip when you put it on the gun In create a class even shows you the it Improves the accuracy which is why the bullets were tighter

[AambeiXXL]

@GoldeneyeBitch No.

[ItzIggybuggydo]

@GoldeneyeBitch Yeah, but in game stats are bullshit-_-

[t53weeman]

use both

[ADML101]

The best lmg for me in the mk46, the reason for this is because the grip give an upward kick so at medium range, its a higher chance of a headshot.

[muttexxxx]

Hey can you do one for the grip a d tthings on bf3??

[EpicFknBrutality]

Kick for guns that have mostly vertical recoil.

Grip for guns that have a bit more horizontal.

[xXteehee08Xx]

He's showing the effect of grip and kick like a boss

[jtru24]

Most people may already know this but Thermal makes the L86 have less recoil (and more accurate). I've also heard Thermal decreases recoil for other guns but I don't know which ones.

L86 LSW + Kick + Thermal = Laser

[PhonicLion]

@jtru24 replace kick with 2 attchments and use grip and thermal and it becomes a super laser

[Stavros175ish]

@jtru24 Ya but the downfall to that idea is thermal vision.

[yahooman999]

can u make a video about the m16 vs type 95 please?

[RidleyPwnsU]

@yahooman999 Type 95 wins in every way. Don't need to test that.

[thebourneman]

so? red dot and grip with 2 attach or red dot with kick? damn I wish you had specifics like exactly how much the center speed is changed

[Plokijuh1229]

I believe the blops m14 is the best example of the grip. without grip, there was lots of upwards recoil and some side to side and would chain upwards if shot repetitively. with grip it would loose the small side to side recoil and would barely chain upwards

[L3roy5]

damn this shit is very informative cause i fuck with lmg's

[BENO3ALLDAY]

copy raw instinct

[yohogo9]

grip ftw

[AustinPowers234]

wouldnt you need a shot with the regular l86 with no kick or grip?

[killercwyl]

I used Thermal on SCAR and MP7 and it's avesome.

[CanadianNinja1]

It seems like the mg36 get a faster rate of fire with the red dot.

[TickleMyPitz]

@CanadianNinja1 because actually with the grip attachment the mg36 shoots slower.

[qwertdeekay]

@bsguerzi he was talking about game play

[ARastafarian]

Using kick, grip and using kick and grip

[byxay714]

what about not using either kick or grip? how much of a difference does it really make?

[MrTyler1864]

No offense but u need a control variable to compare the effects

[im3ks]

does the grip lower the fire rate of some of the lmgs?

[factura5]

@im3ks yes. the mk46

[TheRealFake19]

Kick VS. Range on SMG's, with and without a silencer.

[C43Z]

@TheRealFake19 Kick is bullshit, it barely does something, use Range for silenced SMG's and Focus when normal.

[THE13EARJEW]

ACOG on The PKP is really good!!

[Killsomnia]

Speed with Grip owns

[claydawg003]

the biggest problem with Lmgs isn't the actual spread/recoil, it's the visual recoil. It sounds crazy but you slap a silencer on that big mama there is a significant drop in VISUAL recoil actual recoil im not sure about. i always go kick and silencer or go bling with thermal and silencer.

[Asianboyeneoh]

put 2 attachments thermal and grip is no recoil... try it

[xXJuTjubXx]

@Asianboyeneoh Does it work just with the L86 LSW or does it work with other weapons, too?

[WolffeGaming]

@Asianboyeneoh Too bad thermal looks like shit, and works like shit on anything except the Type96.

[baddyr]

@Asianboyeneoh that's a noob-set up Lolzz it may work on big maps but that's that .

[wrathen127]

Do a specialist in depth

[Bones0]

Thermal makes LMGs like fucking snipers. I love it. haha

[DeuslMortis]

Thermal L86 is a beast!  LOL.

[Tool0GT92]

MW3 Grip = Less vertical recoil

BF3 Grip = Less horizontal recoil

Which is realistic?

[Heat091267]

@Tool0GT92 i dont know if your being sarcastic or not but bf3's is more realistic but i like mw3's grip more or what it does to the gun

[bsguerzi]

Hey Drif0r,

Why don't you do the LMG tests in private matches? That way everything is unlocked and you can use all attachments and proficiencies without levelling up each weapon.

[CorporateNothing]

@bsguerzi He does test them in private matches, but he chooses to use real footage from public matches to make the videos a bit more entertaining and show off the weapons he's discussing in a practical setting.

[freak7ninja]

@bsguerzi to get a feel for everything. what works what perks to use ETC.

[TheRealFake19]

@bsguerzi He did do it in a private match.

[Transpacity]

@bsguerzi For real?!

[OmfgDef]

@bsguerzi He is using Private, but he wants to get gameplay with them so he can provide tested results. I mean shooting at the wall is nice for testing recoil, but sometimes you just need to use the weapon in public.

[parazit43v3r]

@bsguerzi realism;)

[larduit]

@bsguerzi he wouldnt have the experience and, he wouldnt know what hes talking about, cuz he takes the time to do it :D

[qinnyqinqin]

The Thermal Scope on the L86 LSW reduces the recoil by a lot. Try it out.

[RIPblackass]

pfft recoil just use rapid fire steady aim and big ammo

[darthjt5]

what about this thermal plus grip thing ive heard of?

[LegalTender03161995]

I use the M60 W/ grip and red dot sight because the iron sight is impossible to aim with I do very well with that set up.

[nrh756]

I did not know that the specialist package gave you all the weapon proficiencies in addition to the perks.

[Aaronspark7]

For those saying that he should have also done steady aim, steady aim affects hip fire accuracy and has nothing to do with ads accuracy. Kick and Grip only affects ads accuracy.

[3yjxy16]

You should have also tried it with steady aim (:

[MaTe12121]

the L86 has no recoil, when you use the M60 with kick the bullets go ALL over the place, and when you put the grip in the M60 it becomes amazingly accurate, the L86 was an awful example

[Banjoman094]

Drift0r, wouldn't it help to see the differences if you had a "control" test with no attachment or proficiency. Is it even worth using either?

[DetroitLions27]

I got my only Moab using the gold L86 LSW with grip and infer red

[TheEvoletro]

when u gonna do assualt rifles??????



[MrFlame0]

you should have done a control with neither kick nor grip. Not hating but I'm just pointing out that at least to me it would make more sense if we saw what the spread is like without either to decide whether to put either of these at all

[NinjaButtpirate]

yes more ghost stories

[NinjaButtpirate]

those the prone spread help the assault riffles too?

[boostedblackbird]

Good Job!

[Castative]

i think it also depends on the lmg maybe on some grip is better and some kick is better :P

[I8RICKROLLERS]

Use thermal it's the best for recoil

[kroen]

If Grip does ineed lower fire rate, then even if it has less recoil than Kick, Kick is better.

[kroen]

MELEE PROFICIENCY VS TACTICAL KNIFE PLEASE

[USn1njaSlayer]

@kroen melee doesn't give u a faster melee just faster recovery

[WBRamsesIII]

@kroen It doesn't answer your questions but Akimbo knifes faster than the tac knife

[MultiAzzan]

@kroen You can not have a melee in a weapon that has a tac knife available... so no sense making it