'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.' - Ljubco Georgievsk
These bitches make me so mad. They threaten 1 man when they are so many... Why don't Skopians come in Bulgaria and start threat people with death and beating. Do you know what will happen with them? Each of they're bones will be broken on 20 places. Fuckin pussies.
FYROM is a dictator country. Not a democratic Republic. They say that people must be equal and exist, with they're identity without anyone making problems. But if you say you are Bulgarian in FYROM. They will beat you up, kill you, or don't let you a chance to get a job. FUCK THOSE COMMUNIST FANATICS! LONG LIVE THE TRUTH.
Macedonia is Greece and Macedonians are only Greek. Everybody else is either Slav or impostor. We will not allow FYROM to monopolize our heritage and history just because today’s FYROMians occupy a minor part of ancient Macedonia. Greece holds the largest share of Macedonia while 3 million Greeks are Macedonians. Why do FYROMian Slavs deserve to monopolize the name? NO! Before World War II, FYROM was called Vardarska.
It is Ok to be jealous. Greece had a chance to utilize on the name Macedonia but they did not because they were too busy exterminating the same name. Then suddenly in 1989 changed their name only because Macedonia would get their independence (1990). They new all along that Macedonia would be independent country.
@TheMsMkd You can go to REAL Macedonia to visit. You will love it there, you will find the ancient Hellenic culture exposed in museums. You will be able to visit Pela and Aigai (Vergina). You will be able to understand that not all Greeks from Ancient Macedonia call themselves Makedones. You will see that there are many other people living there of different origins. Greek Macedonia is multicultural region, as Alexander wanted it to be.
I go to Skopje and I can vizit the big Mosque in the center
@trustmeyou2needhelp 2 large countries are secretly supporting FYROM and the people from FYROM dare to talk nonsense and fabricate history. These countries have their own interest. I know a lot about it, but it would take me a lot of posts for the explanation, and I'm a bit lazy (and my English is bad)
@IONIANuglyness! There's no such activist here. If he did exist, atleast on the news it was going to be some bad news or something like that. not even a trace. That means, vasko is a virtual person on internet, who created a profile with that name, and pretending he is from macedonia. it is so funny what you the geeks are doing in order to manipulate on internet! hahaha
very good video. I've already said this: people in Skopje have to smoke less Albanian weed, is very strong. They have hallucinations, and poor Albanian drug dealers are becoming richer ...
P.S.Skopians, when you become a Bulgarian, do not call us again, to fight for your freedom ...
@IONIANUGLYNESS! in your land you have fake monuments,coins, freshly made to support your propaganda!! In Rep.of Macedonia has a little number of bulgarians near the border with bulgaria and that's all.
I don't know for which archeologist you're writing about? say the name or you have dreamed something bad?
@IONIANBEAUTY I think that in your geek land you can't hear anything what's across your geek propaganda, but if you go abroad you can hear that. The easiest way is here on wikipedia or google to put macedonian language and you'll get the results, unless your geek authorities have limited the access to google or wikipedia. haha
the god is a proof for the ethnic identity?? haha you're insane!
GEEKS! YOU CAN NOT AVOID THE FACT THAT MACEDONIA WAS SPLITED INTO 4 PIECES IN THE BALKAN WARS 1912/1913 AND YOU DEPORTED MANY MACEDONIANS FROM THEIR HOMES TO GO IN ABROAD.
IT IS TRUE THAT ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE USING THE ANCIENT GEEK LANGUAGE AND CULTURE BUT THEY DID HAVE THEIR OWN ANCIENT MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE. THE GEEK LANGUAGE WAS DIPLOMATIC AS NOWDAYS THE ENGLISH. ARE WE ENGLISHMEN JUST BECAUSE WE CHAT IN ENGLISH?!
HOWEVER IT WAS, YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE RIGHT ON THE NAME MACEDONIA!!
@FYROMINJA minjos, it is a fact that you (the geeks) did not have any piece from Macedonia since 1912, that means Macedonia is not a geek land! you grabbed a piece of our land in 1912 together with the shitos and vulgaros!
We haven't lost! pussy, the battle is still going on!!!!
@MojaSnimka Dude, I am serious. It's a waste of time to speak with you. You didn't understand what I said to you! I will not repeat myself go read again what I wrote and if you still can't understand you are moron... or you don't know English.
@Fyromologist Geek! It seems to me that either you can not understand or you don't want to understand that what i wrote to you! Read it again and again and hopefully you'll catch something, or maybe you can call some who is not a geek and will help you. I know that you the geeks are without intelligence, but sorry I can't help you in this issue, it is up to your genes! Just get off!
@MojaSnimka listen Honey , I'm assuming that you have a brain , and it is capable of deciding what makes sens and what does not . you know you are missing about 1000nd
years in your link to the true Macedonians , the Greeks , so if you really believe in your fake Bulgarian , teachings , this is NOT my fault
@MojaSnimka What? I havn't understoond what you wrote? No, I know very well what you say. Everyone of your kind says the same things always.
Whatever you say here is completely invalid...
For example you said how Macedonians can be Greeks when they conquered the Greece??? Have you ever heard about CIVIL WAR??? Did you ever know that Spartans fought the Athenians too??? We see who is not inteligent now >.>
Come on, dude, find something new to say. 2 years now I answer the same arguments
@Fyromologist geek! yes they fought, but the geeks did not respect the Macedonians as geeks, but as a barbarians. Demosten said that the biggest threat is coming from north, from Philip the barbarian!!!
Even if 200 years you argue, it will be the same situation:
The ancient Macedonians were not Geeks! they spoke ancient Macedonian and geek language as a diplomatic language.
we don't object that R.Macedonia has a slavic character, but you don't have an exclusive right on the name Macedonia!
And you, guys, cared enough this MojaSnimka dude. It's a waste of time to speak with him. Don't you see how he speaks? HAHA SILLY GREEK! , AEGEAN MACEDONIA IS OURS, YOU ARE FULL OF TURKS AND ALBANIANS
Do you think you can speak seriously with him? :S He's propably another poor brainwashed child.
@Fyromologist Yes they do care! the truth hurts them. Go and check the comments of the other geeks here, they are all with insults! and you're going to talk about my way of speaking? you do not have any manners!
GEEKS YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THE FACT OR NO??! IT IS YOUR CHOISE, BUT MORE THAN 130 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD HAVE RECOGNISED MACEDONIA AS MACEDONIA AND EVEN THOSE FROM EU COUNTIRES WHAT YOU KEEP THEM AS A HOSTAGES HAVE RECOGNISED US AS former yugoslav republic of MACEDONIA!!! FACE THE TRUTH! THE WORLD IS LAUGHING ON YOU. DEMOSTEN WAS CALLING THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS: BARBARIANS AND THOSE WHO WERE BARBARIANS WERE NOT GREEKS! YOU JUST STEAL THE HISTORY OF ANCINET MACEDONIA AND THE FAME OF ALEX THE GREAT!
@MojaSnimka OH NO! SO YOU ARE SAYING THE PRIME MINISTER OF CHINE,INDIA AND CANADA RECOGNISED YOU AS MACEDONIA?THIS CHANGE THE WHOLE HISTORY! HAAHAHAAHA
@MojaSnimka IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE POLITICIANS DOES CARE ABOUT THEIR CONTRY,WHICH EVER COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM,THEN YOU ARE STUPID AND WE GREEKS DONT CARE ABOUT LANDS,BUT OUR HISTORY,THE ONE THAT YOU TRY TO STEAL
@Brainiz619Enigma MORON! FOR YOU, ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SAY, THAT WHAT YOU GEEKS WANT TO SAY, THAN THEY'RE STUPID. HAHA YOU'RE THE STUPIDIEST DONKEYS, THE WORLD EVER HAVE SEEN. SHUT UP. YOU ACCTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE LAND AEGEAN MACEDONIA, BUT ABOUT THE NAME MACEDONIA. YOU KNOW THAT YOU STOLE AEGEAN MACEDONIA SINCE 1912, AND NOW YOU'RE AFFRAID THAT YOU HAVE TO RETURN THAT PART BACK TO US!
@MojaSnimka TURN IT TO WHO?YOU?A "COUNTRY" NOT EVEN 3MILLION FULL OF BULGARS,ALBANIANS & MUSLIMS?A SHITHOLE,THE REMAINS OF A CIVIL WAR WHO DREAM LANDS THEY DONT EVEN HAVE?KEEP LIVING ON YOUR IMAGINARY WORLD,EU AND NATO DONT CARE,THEY SHOWED SOME INTEREST ABOUT THIS PROBLEM WITHIN 2 COUNTRIES SOME YEARS BEFORE BUT THATS IT,YOU EXPECT NORTHEN GREECE WILL BE GIVEN TO U JUST LIKE THAT?GET REAL MY BULGAROSLAVIC SPEAKING FRIEND WONNABE MACEDONIAN JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE LANDS OF ENCIENT MACEDONIA
@Brainiz619Enigma WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE LIVE IN GEEKLAND? 30% MACEDONIANS, 20%TURKS,30%ALBANIANS AND LITTLE BIT OF GEEKS! THE EARTH IS GOING AROUND, THE HISTORY IS CHANGING AND OUR TIME IS COMING! WHAT IS OUR WILL BE AGAIN, WHENEVER. YOU HAVE THAT PIECE OF LAND LESS THAN 100 YEARS, THE TURKS WERE ON THE BALKANS AROUND 500 YEARS, AND WE ARE STILL BACK, SO AND THIS. YOU'RE JUST 100 YEARS AND AFTER THAT WE'LL GET IT BACK! NEVER IS LATE!
@MojaSnimka Kostadinoupole is Greek,but since Turks get it by force we can do nothing about it even though its ours,turkey cant just give it to us just like that,same thing with northen Greece its stupid saying we can give it to you like that,wars happened a century ago and Greece,Bulgaria and Serbia took the land and the county lines has been made,if a country say we want your land its 100% they wont get it since whole Europe have to agree with this,so nothing is going to happen,keep dreaming
@Brainiz619Enigma HAHAH SILLY GEEK! YOU RECOGNISE THAT THE PART OF MACEDONIA WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IS NOT FROM EVER GEEK. KOSOVO WAS WITH CENTURIES PART OF SERBIA, NOW BELONGS TO THE ALBANIANS, AND THERE'S NO BORDER WHAT CAN'T BE CHANGED. EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
@MojaSnimka i like your statistics,i have never saw a turk on whole Greece,there are ALbanians like every other country in balkans but 30%?too big number and 30% macedonians?yes,Greek Macedonians,not immigrants from FYROM or somewhere else,dont believe all the information you read on internet by anonymous writers.oh and the "130 countries recognised us as Macedonia" i still c maps from universities around the world,internet sourses like youtube,programs as googleearth refering as FYRO MACEDONIA
@Brainiz619Enigma THE FIGURES ARE CORRECT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO FACE THE TRUTH, COS YOU DON'T LIKE IT. ONLY ATHENS AND PELOPONES ARE A GEEKLANDS, NOTHING ELSE. GO TO AEGEAN MACEDONIA, FULL OF MACEDONIANS WHO SPEAK POOR GEEK. ON NORTHEAST IS FULL OF TURKS, NORTHWEST IS FULL OF ALBANIANS. YOU'RE MANIORITY.
@MojaSnimka Because some countries recognized you as Macedonia that does not proove nothing. For them Macedonia is just a name. Bulgaria recognized your country as Macedonia too but they do not recognize you as sons of Alexander the Great, but as Bulgarian brothers :)
And whatever you said here is bullshit. Every mindless fyromian says the same shit in all over the internet without to read any book yet.
@Fyromologist haha can you see how stubborn you are?! If 130 countries in the world are not important, than who is important? you, the geeks! just because you say like that and should be true? are you aware that even the EU countries can't bare you anymore?
abusing that consensus "right" to block many other countries and begging money from EU! they're just sick of you. you should be ashamed.
It is not the problem about Alexander, but about your fear that you should recognise the rights of
@Fyromologist of the Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia what you did try to assimilate them in 1912 and 1947 in order to settle more geeks in aegean Macedonia.
Many countries in the world have names with different origins, as like france with german origin, the Americans use a name which discribes a whole continent with many nationalities. Nobody can understand your objections about the name. You just keep some countries as hostages in EU, with that fucking consensus. They're laughing on you!
@MojaSnimka Macedonia is Greece and Macedonians are only Greek. Everybody else is either Slav or impostor. We will not allow FYROM to monopolize our heritage and history just because today’s FYROMians occupy a minor part of ancient Macedonia. Greece holds the largest share of Macedonia while 3 million Greeks are Macedonians. Why do FYROMian Slavs deserve to monopolize the name? NO! Before World War II, FYROM was called Vardarska.
@MojaSnimka Alexander the Great wasn't a slave he was born in Greece and btw whole world calls Macedonia fyrom and Macedonians are Greeks not babarians at al.
They spoke Greece, had a greek culture, Most of Macedonia is in greece.
This isn't a game you fascist dick. If you anti-macedonian keep up your rhetoric against Greeks (in particualr Maceodnian ones) there will be more wars.
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?" - Krste Misirkov
@GemistusPletho You can suck my "fashist" dick, you stupid geek pussy! go and learn how to write in English. The Macedonians are NOT geek and never have been.
Krste Misirkov has not stated such shit as you have wroted. Don't post bullshit.
We, the Macedonians, unfortunatly have accepted the Christian orthodox religion. which comes from you the geeks, why you don't object about that, and make us convert our religion into Catholic? That doesn't boders you?! fucking gypcies, fuck your kind!
I am quoting verbatim. Its well known by 3rd party historians around the globe the majority of people that lived in what is today FRYOM used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians in the 19th century. Only in FYROM do they they teach fantasies about ancient macedonians.
"The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." - US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, December 1995
@GemistusPletho Ha ha..you're totaly insane. You're so contradictory:...."our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?" - Krste Misirkov.."
and now: "not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians"
you have found some anonymous american who wrote some non sence. Just shut up and stop being fool.
Actually Loring Danforth is listed on one of your own fake human rights websites (MHRMI) as a historical expert and is a long time supporter of FYROM (which is why I specifically used him). I am quoting your own historical expert!
But if you don't like him, most third party historians that's studied this issues suggest the vast majority of people in what is today FYROM used to self-identify as Bulgarians in the 19th century. (macedonian in a regional not ethnic sense)
"You will find Bulgarians and Turks who call themselves Macedonians, you find Greek Macedonians, there are Servian Macedonians, and it is possible to find Roumanian Macedonians. You will not, however, find a single Christian Macedonian who is not a Servian, a Bulgarian, a Greek, or a Roumanian “ - Pictures From The Balkans” "John Foster Fraser 1906),
"In 1878 at the time of San Stefano, the population of Macedonia was about one million. Greeks inhabited most of the coastal districts, and there were many settlement of Vlachs, Serbs and Turks: but many of the Macedonian peasants of the interior classed themselves as Bulgars." - Balkan Background By Newman, Bernard, page 53
It is who is the fool. You mindlessly and hatefully just parrot whatever your government tells you think about your heritage rather than honestly investigate your true past. (although not everyone in FYROM is illiterate peasant and some do acknowledge their Bulgarian heritage)
@GemistusPletho Only thing what I can see here is, that you're just a typical geek creature who don't have anything else to do in his miserable life, but to post stupid comments on you tube. I don't know who gave you access to the internet? Btw: what is that FYROM, I really don't understand, explain me, if you know.
You say "stupid comments" but I am quoting 3rd party historians and even your own national heroes. What you mean by "stupid" is you have no rebuttle so you depend on your hate to lash out at me for stating the truth.
@GemistusPletho you're quoting bullshit from the start untill now. I can see just an retarded creature sitting behind that crapy comp and typing nonsense. You don't have a live! your live is miserable... just
You former self-identifying Bulgarians have become "brave" through a combination of widespread recognition, cowering behind any human rights organziation you can trick into believing you, and greece's mishandling of its fiances.
However, we have something you will never have no matter who recognizes you. The Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts attesting to the fact anceint macedonians identified with Hellenism not as Slavs. You are anti-Macedonians.
@GemistusPletho BLA BLA BLA.... YOU HAVE NOTHING, YOU MISERABLE GEEK?! POOR CREATURE WAITING SOMEONE ELSE TO GIVE YOU MONEY. YOU LIVE LIKE THE PARAZITES.
THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU STUPID GEEKS
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " (Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
What did your national hero Krste Misirkov mean by these words again?
"We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."
'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
"Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians"
“The only Macedonian Slavs who played a leading part in the uprising were those who called themselves Bulgarians.”
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " (Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
Our ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you...
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea. Arrian, "Anabasis Alexandri", II, 14, 4)
Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions. (Alexander the Great)
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" - Kiro Gligorov, FYROM's first President, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992
@GemistusPletho YOU ALSO AVOID TO SAY THAT KIRO DENIED THAT THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS ARE GEEKS. THE GEEKS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS, THEY USE TO HATE EACH OTHER!
ANSWER ME ONE THING: WHY YOU DO NOT OBJECT TO US, THAT WE HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN RELIGION?! SAY TO THE WORLD THAT WE SHOULD BE CATHOLICS! FUCK YOUR KIND AND FAITH! FUCK YOU ALL GEEKS!
Of course he's going to avoid it. He'd say anythign to hide FYROM's bulgarian roots and justify the name "Macedonian". (and s for religion... I am not religious)
Respond to this video... WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR SOMETHING, THAN: "I'M NOT RELIGIOUS") GEEK PUSSY! YOU KNOW THAT THE GEEK'S DEMAND ABOUT THE NAME IS SO RIDICOLOUS N NOBODY IN THE WORLD UNDERSTANDS U! WHY U DO NOT OBJECT TO THE FRANCH PPL ABOUT USING THE NAME PARIS FOR THEIR CAPITAL? THAT'S GEEK NAME RIGHT?
Because people in Macedonia and Athens USA don't attempt to claim MY identity as their own. They don't draw up maps showing MY homeland annexed to their own. Its not our fault you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians decided to go down this road. You had an identity and you lost it to your hate.
“No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness” - Krste Misirkov
You have things exactly backwards when you claim we have nothign in common with ancient Macedonians. Our culture, our language, our DNA, even our location indicate a massive connection to anceitn macedonians. We still can read most of the greek words on ancient Macedonian artifacts. Can you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians living in ancient paeonia say the same?
@GemistusPletho THE ANCIENT GEEK CULTURE IN THAT TIME IN THE BALKANS WAS USED AS NOWDAYS ENGLISH LANGUAGE. THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS USE TO HAVE UNIQUE LANGUAGE DIFFERENT FROM THE GEEKS, DESPITE THAT THE EDUCATED MACEDONIANS USE TO SPEAK THE GEEK LANGUAGE.
You former self-identifying lectures claim to be "proud" of your "Macedonian" heritage.... yet don't bother to learn Greek so as to be able to read the Greek writing on ancient macedonian artifacts? .Ancient Macedonians indisputably identified with Hellenism. (why its called the Hellenistic era not slavic) What kind of ethnic group hates the language of their own claimed roots. You should be proud of your Bulgarian culture rather than pretend to support something you are against.
"There is no evidence for a different "Macedonian" language that cannot be as easily explained in terms of dialect or accent.(Cambridge Ancient Histories", Cambridge Univ. Press, 1998)
@GemistusPletho "the ancient Macedonians were NOT Greeks but distinguished people who use to have a different language than the greek language",(Charls Hopkins Phd, Harward Univ.press ,1978)
I don't deny a small minority of schoolars claim anceint Macedonians weren't Greek. However the majority claim the opposite. The bottom line is Mr. Hopkins never produced as single work in a "Macedonia" language. Even borza does not deny that ancient Macedonians self-identified as Macedonians. Borza's definition of ethnicity (a Greek derived word) is some vague pseudo-scientific racial definition not self-identification.
Furthermore whether a given historian argues ancient Macedonians were or were not Greeks... none argue you former self-identifying Bulgarians have anything to do with ancient Macedonians. Only FYROM nationalists believe it. (and even your supporters know you are lying about your identity but support you purely because they hate Greeks)
"Until a modern Macedonian literary language was mandated by the socialist-led partisan movement from Macedonia in 1944, most outside observers and linguists agreed with the Bulgarians in considering the vernacular spoken by the Macedonian Slavs as a western dialect of Bulgarian." - Dennis P. Hupchick, "Conflict and Chaos in Eastern Europe", Palgrave Macmillan, 1995
@GemistusPletho "While the Greek socialist movement was struggling to defend Greece from the greek royal fashists, the Macedonians in the northen part of the country were fighting for their human rights, along side the greek socialist fighters", The Greek Civil war (1947-1949), Malcom Stevens, 1989
Malcolm Steven is an idiot. During WW2 you occupied Greece with your Bulgarian cousins. We fought to free our country from you fasicsts occupiers and fought against communist tyrranny.. .while you assholes supported Hilter during and fought later for communist tyranny.
@GemistusPletho haha you're such freak but I mean a real GEEK! I gave you a lot of jobs of typing seems to me?! haha what ever u write is just a bullshit. There's no point to reply to a creature like u.
Spreading hate against Greeks for the historical propaganda of your own government is morally unfair. Blame Greece for it fiances. That's Greece's fault. Don't blame Greece because your government oppresses evidence of your Bulgarian past. Take moral responsibility for your own mistakes.
@GemistusPletho THE GEEK FAULT ISN'T JUST THEIR FINANCE BUT THEY'VE MANY OTHER FAULTS, INCLUDING THE FAULT WITH OPENING A PROBLEM WITH MACEDONIA, TURKEY,ALBANIA AND SO ON... YOU THINK THE EUROPEANS DON'T KNOW THAT?! HAHA WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, BUT YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SPREADING NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA AGAINST US, THE MACEDONIANS! GO TO THE HELL YOU THE GEEKS TOGETHER WITH THE BULGARIANS!
Hilarious. An Bulgarian that oppresses his own Bulgarian heritage telling off other Bulgarians. The Albanians know you are full of shit. They won;t support you. They will annex the west part of your country as soon as they get the first chance(and we will help them) Even the Turkish government knows you are full of shit. They only use you as a political weapons against Greece.
This is not "propaganda". This is historical fact.
"The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." - US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, December 1995
And the hatefilled ultra nationalist racist from FYROM is in complete denial over the blatantly obvious.... he is oppressing his own Bulgarian heritage.
"The whole story about Ancient Macedonia sounds undoubtedly very nice. However, there is a great problem, a huge hole of about 2,000 years during which we have neither oral nor written tradition, nor a single scientific argument” - former Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski, FOCUS, 31 March 2008
"In 1878 at the time of San Stefano, the population of Macedonia was about one million. Greeks inhabited most of the coastal districts, and there were many settlement of Vlachs, Serbs and Turks: but many of the Macedonian peasants of the interior classed themselves as Bulgars." - Balkan Background By Newman, Bernard, page 53
"The origin of the Macedonian dispute the south-east half of Slav Macedonia where the population was most nearly Bulgarian" - The New Macedonian Question, James Pettifer, page 12
In the 1990s,Macedonians speak a language codified in 1946,spoken by less than two million people, and with a very slender literature. They are members of an Orthodox Church whose authority was established by a socialist political regime in 1968.They are heirs to a 1903 revolution that until the 1940s was described by almost all sources as being Bulgarian." - "The history of the Balkan Peninsula?" Ferdinand Schevill
nice copy of our video :) same as your copy our macedonian history that's the way u copy this video. u are so stupid greeks u know only to lie, hide and copy something.
I agree totally with the facts shown on the current video!Its good to see people from skopia expressing their real feelings about their bulgarian identity it is said to be that many of the north skopia territory do have serb identites (ww1 map of serbia)Where we are speaking about freedom history and pride ,i say again WE the Greeks everybody calls us nazis , is it me or we were the only balkans to fight the nazis?considering(albania,skopia,bulgaria)
@painkiller991 Hahahahaha, idiot you don't even now where macedonia was. For examble your town skopie was paionia land and not macedonia. 90 % of macedonia is in greece and you have only the region of monastiri who is greek macedonian land and we will took it back.Go back to steppes where you belong tatar
I looked everywhere on the United Nation Website and there is no country called Macedonia. The only Macedonia that exists legally is the province in northern Greece. I wonder what is all the debate about when the official name of the skops is FYROM. The name FYROM is recongnized by 195 countries of the UN. The people of FYROM are slavic like the polish and serbians etc..
αγαπητοί φίλοι μην παραξενεύεστε οι κύριοι κάνουνε την δουλειά τους και αρκετά καλά μάλιστα.
γι όσους δεν είναι γνωστες τις ιστορίας :μετά τον δεύτερο παγκόσμιο πόλεμο ο ΓΕΙΤΟΝΑΣ μας Tito "εβαφτισε" την περιοχή μακεδονία με το σκεπτικο αστο να φαίνεται εάν δεν διαμαρτυρηθεί κανεις μέγια μας και χαρά μας διότι πάντοτε ήτανε τα ματια τους στην Θεσσαλονίκη και sτο Αιγαίο όπως και οι Βούλγαροι.
2)και άντε αυτός έκανε το κομμάτι του, οι δικοί μας δήθεν ΕΘΝΙΚΟΦΡΟΝΕΣ 30 χρονια κρατούσανε το στόμα κλειστό λες και θα τους Μαστιγώνανε εάν προβάλανε αντίρρηση για την ονομασία.
αλλα τι περιμένεις εδώ ο καινούργιος πρόεδρος τις N.D είχε κάποτε αποχώρηση από το κόμμα, gia την Ιστορία τις αναγνωρίσεως
και είπαμε να και κάποιος με ΑΡX....A .να όμως που τα χρονια περάσανε και πάνε ρότα τώρα τον Σαμαρά τι λέει ???
αυτά τα αρχιγιλίκια είναι το πλήρωμα του χρόνου και το κλείσιμο του στόματος.
3) για αυτό αγαπητοί φίλοι ας ξανβαλουμε το κεφάλι κάτω εμείς οι μικροί και ας ενώσουμε τις φωνές μας μπας και ξυπνήσουνε τα μανάρια μας οι Πολιτικοί, και περισσότερο να καταλάβουνε ότι εμείς δεν κοιμόμαστε και δεν είμαστε οι Έλληνες τις μπριζόλας και τις ρετσίνας, σεβόμαστε την ΠΑΤΡΙΔΑ μας και δεν θέλουμε τα παιδιά μας να γίνουνε κάποια ημερα "αλβανοσκοπιανακια".
The irredentist's and propagandists of FYROM not only attempt to rob the Hellenic people of their history but they also rob the world entire from invaluable knowledge of the past in the process. Distorting the truth of the Hellenic character and geography of Macedonia brings to life the Orwellian ministry of truth which produces only lies to fulfill its agenda. Another brick in the wall of global demise.
Since this country is a mixture of 40% Albanians, 40% Slavs (Bulgarians), 20% a mixture of gypsies, Turks, Serbians even a few Greeks etc . they fear a future split where their territories will be incorporated in the neighbouring countries for this reason they should invent a connection with the antiquity from which they
would have given a homogeneity in their population and since their land is connected geographically with a wider region that is characterized by a big history they considered legitimate to make her their trial and unite all these so much different people under a false common sentiment for the supposedly release of “enslaved” homelands fact that would also serve of course their expansive plans.
If their country would be named as Republic of Macedonia and their citizens Macedonians, when I, that I am Macedonian, by origin and not by locality travel in a foreigner country and tell to someone that will ask me that I am from Macedonia, from where will he occupy that I am????
Hence fatal they will have been remove from me thus my identity.
Think therefore if they were on the position of a Greek Macedonian that lived in the Greek Macedonian province and one day because a country - that previously it was also the same province of some other country -decided it is named Macedonia and for this reason it should be removed from him his Macedonian identity.
They are saying that we dispute them, that we say that they don’t exist and that we deprive their right to be called as they want, which means Macedonians.
However actually it becomes precisely the opposite because they are those that dispute our existence and deprive our right to be Macedonians as our historical heritage fixes by monopolizing and claiming the exclusivity of name for their country and for themselves.
why on earth Hellenics have to demand the obvious?? Greeks have the right of self determination as they r indigenous ancients Makedonians..how we suppose to feel and react seeing skopians falsify Greek and world´s history?..how we suppose to feel when other countries call INCORECTLY skopia Makedonia?..Well, i blame our politics for apathy and disabillity..We must make them care..ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ..MAKEDONIA IS GREEK..
Encyclopedia Britannica: As invasions of the Balkan Peninsula from the north continued from Bulgars intermittently over the next four centuries, the Turkic element in the Bulgarians’ ethnic makeup was reinforced by strains derived from the Pechenegs, Kipchaks, and Cumans—all Turkic peoples.
Encyclopedia Britannica: In this period Bulgaria became a cultural centre of eastern Europe, especially famous for its literary schools of Preslav (now Veliki Preslav) and Ohrid. Τhe Bulgars and Slavs had melded into a Slavic-speaking, Christianized people essentially identical to today’s Bulgarians.
Kumanovo (Vardaskian: Куманово, Albanian: Kumanovë) is thе third largest city in the Vardaska (after Skopje and Bitola) and is the seat of Kumanovo Municipality which is the largest municipality in the country.
I can't believe they brainwash the children of their nation like that. It's sickening.
PanaMacSpana 1 month ago
'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.' - Ljubco Georgievsk
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
The biggest trouble comes from the fyromians from australia , they are completely brainwashed,
DIONYSISZANTE 4 months ago
Ρε παιδια...πως θα γινει να παει κανα F16...A7...F4E...να ριξει κανα-δυο Mk84...
λιγο Napalm...5-6 ρουκετες...εκει στα Σκοπια να τα κανουν Σκορπια...ε?
TheSubzerogr 4 months ago
god is skopian lol
tisbales 7 months ago
Πως θα γίνει να ρίξω μια κουτουλιά σε αυτόν τον υπ. εξωτερικών τους. Kill φλώρους!
megalolamogio 7 months ago
@MojaSnimka it does make sense and i am greek end discus ion
TheStephanos78 7 months ago
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MojaSnimka 2 months ago
These bitches make me so mad. They threaten 1 man when they are so many... Why don't Skopians come in Bulgaria and start threat people with death and beating. Do you know what will happen with them? Each of they're bones will be broken on 20 places. Fuckin pussies.
Bulgarboy1 10 months ago
THANK YOU for this video...
Greetings from Bulgaria :) I really hope that the Macedonean brain washing will stop. And they will realise the truth.
Soni2605 10 months ago
FYROM is a dictator country. Not a democratic Republic. They say that people must be equal and exist, with they're identity without anyone making problems. But if you say you are Bulgarian in FYROM. They will beat you up, kill you, or don't let you a chance to get a job. FUCK THOSE COMMUNIST FANATICS! LONG LIVE THE TRUTH.
Bulgarboy1 10 months ago
Macedonia is Greece and Macedonians are only Greek. Everybody else is either Slav or impostor. We will not allow FYROM to monopolize our heritage and history just because today’s FYROMians occupy a minor part of ancient Macedonia. Greece holds the largest share of Macedonia while 3 million Greeks are Macedonians. Why do FYROMian Slavs deserve to monopolize the name? NO! Before World War II, FYROM was called Vardarska.
FYROM * SLAVS * IMPOSTORS.
Regards,
Leo M., Chicago
MILIALK 11 months ago 8
fyrom is the only country in the western world that doesnt have a library!!
the only country in the western world with 3 differnt Ethnicities in 40 years!!
"yugoslave, south slav , macedonian"
its a joke if we even consider as a big problem that kind of bullshit!!!
we have nothing to worry about! truth is to our side!!
jouvemin190 1 year ago
It is Ok to be jealous. Greece had a chance to utilize on the name Macedonia but they did not because they were too busy exterminating the same name. Then suddenly in 1989 changed their name only because Macedonia would get their independence (1990). They new all along that Macedonia would be independent country.
TheMsMkd 1 year ago
@TheMsMkd You can go to REAL Macedonia to visit. You will love it there, you will find the ancient Hellenic culture exposed in museums. You will be able to visit Pela and Aigai (Vergina). You will be able to understand that not all Greeks from Ancient Macedonia call themselves Makedones. You will see that there are many other people living there of different origins. Greek Macedonia is multicultural region, as Alexander wanted it to be.
I go to Skopje and I can vizit the big Mosque in the center
shockolanu 1 year ago
oh, and let not forget the...oto_empire, what a dream ehhh :)
lololol
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
@Mr4CShield - You only have to know one thing...
Empires come and go..just look at the ROMAN Empire what they did, where are they now???.
The ONE who make the mistake in Kotsovo one day may have to pay the same price. CHINA is on it's way to being the next empire.
KOTSOVO will be again part of SERBIA.
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
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"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
[FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35.]
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
[FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35.] LOLOLOL
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
@trustmeyou2needhelp 2 large countries are secretly supporting FYROM and the people from FYROM dare to talk nonsense and fabricate history. These countries have their own interest. I know a lot about it, but it would take me a lot of posts for the explanation, and I'm a bit lazy (and my English is bad)
Mr4CShield 1 year ago
@IONIANuglyness! There's no such activist here. If he did exist, atleast on the news it was going to be some bad news or something like that. not even a trace. That means, vasko is a virtual person on internet, who created a profile with that name, and pretending he is from macedonia. it is so funny what you the geeks are doing in order to manipulate on internet! hahaha
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
GOD pless GREECE
some ... "dreams", never come true.
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
very good video. I've already said this: people in Skopje have to smoke less Albanian weed, is very strong. They have hallucinations, and poor Albanian drug dealers are becoming richer ...
P.S.Skopians, when you become a Bulgarian, do not call us again, to fight for your freedom ...
Mr4CShield 1 year ago
@IONIANUGLYNESS! in your land you have fake monuments,coins, freshly made to support your propaganda!! In Rep.of Macedonia has a little number of bulgarians near the border with bulgaria and that's all.
I don't know for which archeologist you're writing about? say the name or you have dreamed something bad?
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
Macedonia IS
Macedonia WAS
Macedonia ,, will always be Greeeeeeeeece !
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
@IONIANBEAUTY I think that in your geek land you can't hear anything what's across your geek propaganda, but if you go abroad you can hear that. The easiest way is here on wikipedia or google to put macedonian language and you'll get the results, unless your geek authorities have limited the access to google or wikipedia. haha
the god is a proof for the ethnic identity?? haha you're insane!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
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GEEKS! YOU CAN NOT AVOID THE FACT THAT MACEDONIA WAS SPLITED INTO 4 PIECES IN THE BALKAN WARS 1912/1913 AND YOU DEPORTED MANY MACEDONIANS FROM THEIR HOMES TO GO IN ABROAD.
IT IS TRUE THAT ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE USING THE ANCIENT GEEK LANGUAGE AND CULTURE BUT THEY DID HAVE THEIR OWN ANCIENT MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE. THE GEEK LANGUAGE WAS DIPLOMATIC AS NOWDAYS THE ENGLISH. ARE WE ENGLISHMEN JUST BECAUSE WE CHAT IN ENGLISH?!
HOWEVER IT WAS, YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE RIGHT ON THE NAME MACEDONIA!!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
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MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka 1912 there was a war ,, you pussies lost .
so shut the fuck up ! your grandparents went with the Bulgars because that is what they were . so stop being sour pussy loosers now ..
Macedonia is , was and will always be Greece . GOD said so !
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
@FYROMINJA minjos, it is a fact that you (the geeks) did not have any piece from Macedonia since 1912, that means Macedonia is not a geek land! you grabbed a piece of our land in 1912 together with the shitos and vulgaros!
We haven't lost! pussy, the battle is still going on!!!!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka Dude, I am serious. It's a waste of time to speak with you. You didn't understand what I said to you! I will not repeat myself go read again what I wrote and if you still can't understand you are moron... or you don't know English.
Fyromologist 1 year ago
@Fyromologist Geek! It seems to me that either you can not understand or you don't want to understand that what i wrote to you! Read it again and again and hopefully you'll catch something, or maybe you can call some who is not a geek and will help you. I know that you the geeks are without intelligence, but sorry I can't help you in this issue, it is up to your genes! Just get off!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka listen Honey , I'm assuming that you have a brain , and it is capable of deciding what makes sens and what does not . you know you are missing about 1000nd
years in your link to the true Macedonians , the Greeks , so if you really believe in your fake Bulgarian , teachings , this is NOT my fault
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
@FYROMINJA honey minjas! please change your nick if you have a little bit brain. cos you make fool of yourself!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka What? I havn't understoond what you wrote? No, I know very well what you say. Everyone of your kind says the same things always.
Whatever you say here is completely invalid...
For example you said how Macedonians can be Greeks when they conquered the Greece??? Have you ever heard about CIVIL WAR??? Did you ever know that Spartans fought the Athenians too??? We see who is not inteligent now >.>
Come on, dude, find something new to say. 2 years now I answer the same arguments
Fyromologist 1 year ago
@Fyromologist geek! yes they fought, but the geeks did not respect the Macedonians as geeks, but as a barbarians. Demosten said that the biggest threat is coming from north, from Philip the barbarian!!!
Even if 200 years you argue, it will be the same situation:
The ancient Macedonians were not Geeks! they spoke ancient Macedonian and geek language as a diplomatic language.
we don't object that R.Macedonia has a slavic character, but you don't have an exclusive right on the name Macedonia!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
130 countries know the FYR and one country turkey support you
the world knows Alexander the world knows he is Greek.
FACT
the sooner you wake up the better and the less you sleep less nightmares for you all.
lol
trustmeyou2needhelp 1 year ago
@trustmeyou2needhelp The world knows that Alexander the great was Macedonian who fought against the geeks and conquered them!
130 countries recognised us as a REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA and just 14 as a former yugoslav republic of MACEDONIA!! ACCEPT THE TRUTH!!!!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka your Fucked up history is not what is taught in the rest of the real world
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
And you, guys, cared enough this MojaSnimka dude. It's a waste of time to speak with him. Don't you see how he speaks? HAHA SILLY GREEK! , AEGEAN MACEDONIA IS OURS, YOU ARE FULL OF TURKS AND ALBANIANS
Do you think you can speak seriously with him? :S He's propably another poor brainwashed child.
Fyromologist 1 year ago
@Fyromologist Yes they do care! the truth hurts them. Go and check the comments of the other geeks here, they are all with insults! and you're going to talk about my way of speaking? you do not have any manners!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
ПУШИТЕ КУР МАКЕДОНИЈА НА МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ
Daniel622440 1 year ago
@Daniel622440 Македонија е грчка
Fyromologist 1 year ago
GEEKS YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THE FACT OR NO??! IT IS YOUR CHOISE, BUT MORE THAN 130 COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD HAVE RECOGNISED MACEDONIA AS MACEDONIA AND EVEN THOSE FROM EU COUNTIRES WHAT YOU KEEP THEM AS A HOSTAGES HAVE RECOGNISED US AS former yugoslav republic of MACEDONIA!!! FACE THE TRUTH! THE WORLD IS LAUGHING ON YOU. DEMOSTEN WAS CALLING THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS: BARBARIANS AND THOSE WHO WERE BARBARIANS WERE NOT GREEKS! YOU JUST STEAL THE HISTORY OF ANCINET MACEDONIA AND THE FAME OF ALEX THE GREAT!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka
halo!
StankoKaraman 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka OH NO! SO YOU ARE SAYING THE PRIME MINISTER OF CHINE,INDIA AND CANADA RECOGNISED YOU AS MACEDONIA?THIS CHANGE THE WHOLE HISTORY! HAAHAHAAHA
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
@Brainiz619Enigma THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE HISTORY BUT JUST CONFIRM THE HISTORY THAT MACEDONIA IS NOT A GrEEK LAND! :)
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE POLITICIANS DOES CARE ABOUT THEIR CONTRY,WHICH EVER COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM,THEN YOU ARE STUPID AND WE GREEKS DONT CARE ABOUT LANDS,BUT OUR HISTORY,THE ONE THAT YOU TRY TO STEAL
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
@Brainiz619Enigma MORON! FOR YOU, ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SAY, THAT WHAT YOU GEEKS WANT TO SAY, THAN THEY'RE STUPID. HAHA YOU'RE THE STUPIDIEST DONKEYS, THE WORLD EVER HAVE SEEN. SHUT UP. YOU ACCTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE LAND AEGEAN MACEDONIA, BUT ABOUT THE NAME MACEDONIA. YOU KNOW THAT YOU STOLE AEGEAN MACEDONIA SINCE 1912, AND NOW YOU'RE AFFRAID THAT YOU HAVE TO RETURN THAT PART BACK TO US!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka TURN IT TO WHO?YOU?A "COUNTRY" NOT EVEN 3MILLION FULL OF BULGARS,ALBANIANS & MUSLIMS?A SHITHOLE,THE REMAINS OF A CIVIL WAR WHO DREAM LANDS THEY DONT EVEN HAVE?KEEP LIVING ON YOUR IMAGINARY WORLD,EU AND NATO DONT CARE,THEY SHOWED SOME INTEREST ABOUT THIS PROBLEM WITHIN 2 COUNTRIES SOME YEARS BEFORE BUT THATS IT,YOU EXPECT NORTHEN GREECE WILL BE GIVEN TO U JUST LIKE THAT?GET REAL MY BULGAROSLAVIC SPEAKING FRIEND WONNABE MACEDONIAN JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE LANDS OF ENCIENT MACEDONIA
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
@Brainiz619Enigma WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE LIVE IN GEEKLAND? 30% MACEDONIANS, 20%TURKS,30%ALBANIANS AND LITTLE BIT OF GEEKS! THE EARTH IS GOING AROUND, THE HISTORY IS CHANGING AND OUR TIME IS COMING! WHAT IS OUR WILL BE AGAIN, WHENEVER. YOU HAVE THAT PIECE OF LAND LESS THAN 100 YEARS, THE TURKS WERE ON THE BALKANS AROUND 500 YEARS, AND WE ARE STILL BACK, SO AND THIS. YOU'RE JUST 100 YEARS AND AFTER THAT WE'LL GET IT BACK! NEVER IS LATE!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka Kostadinoupole is Greek,but since Turks get it by force we can do nothing about it even though its ours,turkey cant just give it to us just like that,same thing with northen Greece its stupid saying we can give it to you like that,wars happened a century ago and Greece,Bulgaria and Serbia took the land and the county lines has been made,if a country say we want your land its 100% they wont get it since whole Europe have to agree with this,so nothing is going to happen,keep dreaming
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
@Brainiz619Enigma HAHAH SILLY GEEK! YOU RECOGNISE THAT THE PART OF MACEDONIA WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IS NOT FROM EVER GEEK. KOSOVO WAS WITH CENTURIES PART OF SERBIA, NOW BELONGS TO THE ALBANIANS, AND THERE'S NO BORDER WHAT CAN'T BE CHANGED. EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
IF AMERS WANTS TO DO THAT, THEY WILL.
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka i like your statistics,i have never saw a turk on whole Greece,there are ALbanians like every other country in balkans but 30%?too big number and 30% macedonians?yes,Greek Macedonians,not immigrants from FYROM or somewhere else,dont believe all the information you read on internet by anonymous writers.oh and the "130 countries recognised us as Macedonia" i still c maps from universities around the world,internet sourses like youtube,programs as googleearth refering as FYRO MACEDONIA
Brainiz619Enigma 1 year ago
@Brainiz619Enigma THE FIGURES ARE CORRECT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO FACE THE TRUTH, COS YOU DON'T LIKE IT. ONLY ATHENS AND PELOPONES ARE A GEEKLANDS, NOTHING ELSE. GO TO AEGEAN MACEDONIA, FULL OF MACEDONIANS WHO SPEAK POOR GEEK. ON NORTHEAST IS FULL OF TURKS, NORTHWEST IS FULL OF ALBANIANS. YOU'RE MANIORITY.
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@MojaSnimka Because some countries recognized you as Macedonia that does not proove nothing. For them Macedonia is just a name. Bulgaria recognized your country as Macedonia too but they do not recognize you as sons of Alexander the Great, but as Bulgarian brothers :)
And whatever you said here is bullshit. Every mindless fyromian says the same shit in all over the internet without to read any book yet.
Fyromologist 1 year ago 3
@Fyromologist haha can you see how stubborn you are?! If 130 countries in the world are not important, than who is important? you, the geeks! just because you say like that and should be true? are you aware that even the EU countries can't bare you anymore?
abusing that consensus "right" to block many other countries and begging money from EU! they're just sick of you. you should be ashamed.
It is not the problem about Alexander, but about your fear that you should recognise the rights of
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
@Fyromologist of the Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia what you did try to assimilate them in 1912 and 1947 in order to settle more geeks in aegean Macedonia.
Many countries in the world have names with different origins, as like france with german origin, the Americans use a name which discribes a whole continent with many nationalities. Nobody can understand your objections about the name. You just keep some countries as hostages in EU, with that fucking consensus. They're laughing on you!
MojaSnimka 1 year ago
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@MojaSnimka Macedonia is Greece and Macedonians are only Greek. Everybody else is either Slav or impostor. We will not allow FYROM to monopolize our heritage and history just because today’s FYROMians occupy a minor part of ancient Macedonia. Greece holds the largest share of Macedonia while 3 million Greeks are Macedonians. Why do FYROMian Slavs deserve to monopolize the name? NO! Before World War II, FYROM was called Vardarska.
FYROM * SLAVS * IMPOSTORS.
Regards,
Leo M., Chicago
MILIALK 11 months ago
@MojaSnimka Alexander the Great wasn't a slave he was born in Greece and btw whole world calls Macedonia fyrom and Macedonians are Greeks not babarians at al.
They spoke Greece, had a greek culture, Most of Macedonia is in greece.
Read history book!
TheStephanos78 8 months ago
@TheStephanos78 bla bla bla non sense typical for a geek queer lost in Holland.
MojaSnimka 8 months ago
@MojaSnimka
This isn't a game you fascist dick. If you anti-macedonian keep up your rhetoric against Greeks (in particualr Maceodnian ones) there will be more wars.
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?" - Krste Misirkov
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@GemistusPletho You can suck my "fashist" dick, you stupid geek pussy! go and learn how to write in English. The Macedonians are NOT geek and never have been.
Krste Misirkov has not stated such shit as you have wroted. Don't post bullshit.
We, the Macedonians, unfortunatly have accepted the Christian orthodox religion. which comes from you the geeks, why you don't object about that, and make us convert our religion into Catholic? That doesn't boders you?! fucking gypcies, fuck your kind!
MojaSnimka 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
I am quoting verbatim. Its well known by 3rd party historians around the globe the majority of people that lived in what is today FRYOM used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians in the 19th century. Only in FYROM do they they teach fantasies about ancient macedonians.
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
"The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." - US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, December 1995
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@GemistusPletho Ha ha..you're totaly insane. You're so contradictory:...."our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?" - Krste Misirkov.."
and now: "not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians"
you have found some anonymous american who wrote some non sence. Just shut up and stop being fool.
MojaSnimka 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Actually Loring Danforth is listed on one of your own fake human rights websites (MHRMI) as a historical expert and is a long time supporter of FYROM (which is why I specifically used him). I am quoting your own historical expert!
But if you don't like him, most third party historians that's studied this issues suggest the vast majority of people in what is today FYROM used to self-identify as Bulgarians in the 19th century. (macedonian in a regional not ethnic sense)
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
"You will find Bulgarians and Turks who call themselves Macedonians, you find Greek Macedonians, there are Servian Macedonians, and it is possible to find Roumanian Macedonians. You will not, however, find a single Christian Macedonian who is not a Servian, a Bulgarian, a Greek, or a Roumanian “ - Pictures From The Balkans” "John Foster Fraser 1906),
GemistusPletho 3 months ago 2
@MojaSnimka
"In 1878 at the time of San Stefano, the population of Macedonia was about one million. Greeks inhabited most of the coastal districts, and there were many settlement of Vlachs, Serbs and Turks: but many of the Macedonian peasants of the interior classed themselves as Bulgars." - Balkan Background By Newman, Bernard, page 53
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
It is who is the fool. You mindlessly and hatefully just parrot whatever your government tells you think about your heritage rather than honestly investigate your true past. (although not everyone in FYROM is illiterate peasant and some do acknowledge their Bulgarian heritage)
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@GemistusPletho Only thing what I can see here is, that you're just a typical geek creature who don't have anything else to do in his miserable life, but to post stupid comments on you tube. I don't know who gave you access to the internet? Btw: what is that FYROM, I really don't understand, explain me, if you know.
MojaSnimka 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
You say "stupid comments" but I am quoting 3rd party historians and even your own national heroes. What you mean by "stupid" is you have no rebuttle so you depend on your hate to lash out at me for stating the truth.
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@GemistusPletho you're quoting bullshit from the start untill now. I can see just an retarded creature sitting behind that crapy comp and typing nonsense. You don't have a live! your live is miserable... just
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
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@MojaSnimka
ALL my quotes are real. What you mean by "bullshit" .... is you have no rebuttle so you depend on your hate to lash out at me for stating the truth.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
You former self-identifying Bulgarians have become "brave" through a combination of widespread recognition, cowering behind any human rights organziation you can trick into believing you, and greece's mishandling of its fiances.
However, we have something you will never have no matter who recognizes you. The Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts attesting to the fact anceint macedonians identified with Hellenism not as Slavs. You are anti-Macedonians.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho BLA BLA BLA.... YOU HAVE NOTHING, YOU MISERABLE GEEK?! POOR CREATURE WAITING SOMEONE ELSE TO GIVE YOU MONEY. YOU LIVE LIKE THE PARAZITES.
THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU STUPID GEEKS
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Whatever you say dear.
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " (Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho your post is out of context and you avoid to mention that he conquered the geek polises.
THE GEEKS DID NOT ACCEPT HIM AS A GEEK, THAN WHY YOU SAY THAT HE IS A GEEK NOW, JUST FOR HIS GLORY? POOR GEEKS
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
What did your national hero Krste Misirkov mean by these words again?
"We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."
'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
"Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians"
“The only Macedonian Slavs who played a leading part in the uprising were those who called themselves Bulgarians.”
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho THIS WHAT YOU HAVE WROTE HERE, HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM SOME FAKE BULGARIAN BOOK! THEY'RE SAME ASSHOLES LIKE YOU! GO AND FUCK YOURSELFS!
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
You are such "parasites" you even leach off Greek ethnic identity. Go find your own identity you fascist asshole.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho YES! WE FOUNDED IT! AND THAT IS MACEDONIANS AND NOTHING ELSE! DAMN GEEKS
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. " (Speech of Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho bla bla bla, u just repeat yrselfs like an silly parrot. same shit always. shut up u fucking retard
Alexander the great never was geek!
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Why do you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians not recognize the self-identification of ancient macedonians?
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
Our ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you...
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea. Arrian, "Anabasis Alexandri", II, 14, 4)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
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@MojaSnimka
Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions. (Alexander the Great)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians" - Kiro Gligorov, FYROM's first President, Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho YOU ALSO AVOID TO SAY THAT KIRO DENIED THAT THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS ARE GEEKS. THE GEEKS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS, THEY USE TO HATE EACH OTHER!
ANSWER ME ONE THING: WHY YOU DO NOT OBJECT TO US, THAT WE HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN RELIGION?! SAY TO THE WORLD THAT WE SHOULD BE CATHOLICS! FUCK YOUR KIND AND FAITH! FUCK YOU ALL GEEKS!
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Of course he's going to avoid it. He'd say anythign to hide FYROM's bulgarian roots and justify the name "Macedonian". (and s for religion... I am not religious)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho if you do not value his words why you mention anything what he's said? that what you like it? you geek shit.
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
I am just pointing out your own former president and prime minister used to say you have nothing to do with anceint macedonians.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
Respond to this video... WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR SOMETHING, THAN: "I'M NOT RELIGIOUS") GEEK PUSSY! YOU KNOW THAT THE GEEK'S DEMAND ABOUT THE NAME IS SO RIDICOLOUS N NOBODY IN THE WORLD UNDERSTANDS U! WHY U DO NOT OBJECT TO THE FRANCH PPL ABOUT USING THE NAME PARIS FOR THEIR CAPITAL? THAT'S GEEK NAME RIGHT?
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Because people in Macedonia and Athens USA don't attempt to claim MY identity as their own. They don't draw up maps showing MY homeland annexed to their own. Its not our fault you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians decided to go down this road. You had an identity and you lost it to your hate.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
“No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness” - Krste Misirkov
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
You have things exactly backwards when you claim we have nothign in common with ancient Macedonians. Our culture, our language, our DNA, even our location indicate a massive connection to anceitn macedonians. We still can read most of the greek words on ancient Macedonian artifacts. Can you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians living in ancient paeonia say the same?
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho THE ANCIENT GEEK CULTURE IN THAT TIME IN THE BALKANS WAS USED AS NOWDAYS ENGLISH LANGUAGE. THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS USE TO HAVE UNIQUE LANGUAGE DIFFERENT FROM THE GEEKS, DESPITE THAT THE EDUCATED MACEDONIANS USE TO SPEAK THE GEEK LANGUAGE.
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Ancient Macedonians are the very ones that turned it into an international language.... because Greek was their own langauge.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho go and study English, because you don't know how to write, and I don't understand yr bullshit.
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
You former self-identifying lectures claim to be "proud" of your "Macedonian" heritage.... yet don't bother to learn Greek so as to be able to read the Greek writing on ancient macedonian artifacts? .Ancient Macedonians indisputably identified with Hellenism. (why its called the Hellenistic era not slavic) What kind of ethnic group hates the language of their own claimed roots. You should be proud of your Bulgarian culture rather than pretend to support something you are against.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
"There is no evidence for a different "Macedonian" language that cannot be as easily explained in terms of dialect or accent.(Cambridge Ancient Histories", Cambridge Univ. Press, 1998)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho "the ancient Macedonians were NOT Greeks but distinguished people who use to have a different language than the greek language",(Charls Hopkins Phd, Harward Univ.press ,1978)
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
I don't deny a small minority of schoolars claim anceint Macedonians weren't Greek. However the majority claim the opposite. The bottom line is Mr. Hopkins never produced as single work in a "Macedonia" language. Even borza does not deny that ancient Macedonians self-identified as Macedonians. Borza's definition of ethnicity (a Greek derived word) is some vague pseudo-scientific racial definition not self-identification.
Furthermore, neither o
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Furthermore whether a given historian argues ancient Macedonians were or were not Greeks... none argue you former self-identifying Bulgarians have anything to do with ancient Macedonians. Only FYROM nationalists believe it. (and even your supporters know you are lying about your identity but support you purely because they hate Greeks)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
"Until a modern Macedonian literary language was mandated by the socialist-led partisan movement from Macedonia in 1944, most outside observers and linguists agreed with the Bulgarians in considering the vernacular spoken by the Macedonian Slavs as a western dialect of Bulgarian." - Dennis P. Hupchick, "Conflict and Chaos in Eastern Europe", Palgrave Macmillan, 1995
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho "While the Greek socialist movement was struggling to defend Greece from the greek royal fashists, the Macedonians in the northen part of the country were fighting for their human rights, along side the greek socialist fighters", The Greek Civil war (1947-1949), Malcom Stevens, 1989
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Malcolm Steven is an idiot. During WW2 you occupied Greece with your Bulgarian cousins. We fought to free our country from you fasicsts occupiers and fought against communist tyrranny.. .while you assholes supported Hilter during and fought later for communist tyranny.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho haha you're such freak but I mean a real GEEK! I gave you a lot of jobs of typing seems to me?! haha what ever u write is just a bullshit. There's no point to reply to a creature like u.
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Spreading hate against Greeks for the historical propaganda of your own government is morally unfair. Blame Greece for it fiances. That's Greece's fault. Don't blame Greece because your government oppresses evidence of your Bulgarian past. Take moral responsibility for your own mistakes.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho THE GEEK FAULT ISN'T JUST THEIR FINANCE BUT THEY'VE MANY OTHER FAULTS, INCLUDING THE FAULT WITH OPENING A PROBLEM WITH MACEDONIA, TURKEY,ALBANIA AND SO ON... YOU THINK THE EUROPEANS DON'T KNOW THAT?! HAHA WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, BUT YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SPREADING NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA AGAINST US, THE MACEDONIANS! GO TO THE HELL YOU THE GEEKS TOGETHER WITH THE BULGARIANS!
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
Hilarious. An Bulgarian that oppresses his own Bulgarian heritage telling off other Bulgarians. The Albanians know you are full of shit. They won;t support you. They will annex the west part of your country as soon as they get the first chance(and we will help them) Even the Turkish government knows you are full of shit. They only use you as a political weapons against Greece.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
This is not "propaganda". This is historical fact.
"The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians." - US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, "The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World", Princeton Univ Press, December 1995
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho STUPID GEEK PARROT! REPEAT YRSELF...
MojaSnimka 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
And the hatefilled ultra nationalist racist from FYROM is in complete denial over the blatantly obvious.... he is oppressing his own Bulgarian heritage.
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@MojaSnimka
IMRO leadership aligned with fascism during early WW2. Its a historical fact. (see Ivan Mihalov)
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Ivan_Mihailov#1934_-_1944
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
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@MojaSnimka
"The whole story about Ancient Macedonia sounds undoubtedly very nice. However, there is a great problem, a huge hole of about 2,000 years during which we have neither oral nor written tradition, nor a single scientific argument” - former Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski, FOCUS, 31 March 2008
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
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@MojaSnimka
"In 1878 at the time of San Stefano, the population of Macedonia was about one million. Greeks inhabited most of the coastal districts, and there were many settlement of Vlachs, Serbs and Turks: but many of the Macedonian peasants of the interior classed themselves as Bulgars." - Balkan Background By Newman, Bernard, page 53
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
"The origin of the Macedonian dispute the south-east half of Slav Macedonia where the population was most nearly Bulgarian" - The New Macedonian Question, James Pettifer, page 12
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
@MojaSnimka
In the 1990s,Macedonians speak a language codified in 1946,spoken by less than two million people, and with a very slender literature. They are members of an Orthodox Church whose authority was established by a socialist political regime in 1968.They are heirs to a 1903 revolution that until the 1940s was described by almost all sources as being Bulgarian." - "The history of the Balkan Peninsula?" Ferdinand Schevill
GemistusPletho 3 months ago
nice copy of our video :) same as your copy our macedonian history that's the way u copy this video. u are so stupid greeks u know only to lie, hide and copy something.
1heart3MCD 1 year ago
@1heart3MCD copy?
youtube.com/watch?v=HAc9nuzzJ6k
youtube.com/watch?v=4TW5Mr8HwyQ
youtube.com/watch?v=aZvbQXYvJ_A
youtube.com/watch?v=eEbHl3TkH4w
youtube.com/watch?v=g47JUpW0KQ0
youtube.com/watch?v=n4g-7Mf7Q5w
and u was saying?
kostasdania 1 year ago
@1heart3MCD O_o copy? Do you say the same when you see something in TV? Also I wrote in the video from what shows I found them!
And those "copied" videos as you said if you search in Youtube you'll see that million people uploaded them xD
Fyromologist 1 year ago
Great video,every FYROMian who knows english shoud watch this and think for himself.
2:51-3:06 Fyromologist,where did you find this?
TalkToTheHand1231 1 year ago
@TalkToTheHand1231 I don't remember...
I found it on Youtube.
But I will do a search in my PC, if I find something I'll tell you!
Fyromologist 1 year ago
@Fyromologist Thanks,but no need.I was just asking.
TalkToTheHand1231 1 year ago
I agree totally with the facts shown on the current video!Its good to see people from skopia expressing their real feelings about their bulgarian identity it is said to be that many of the north skopia territory do have serb identites (ww1 map of serbia)Where we are speaking about freedom history and pride ,i say again WE the Greeks everybody calls us nazis , is it me or we were the only balkans to fight the nazis?considering(albania,skopia,bulgaria)
paoktshsostokokalo 1 year ago 2
LOL FUCK SKOPIANS
TheBaronofBallstein 1 year ago
Πραγματικά όποιος έφτιαξε αυτό το βίντεο αξίζει πολλά συνχαρητήρια....ΜΡΑΒΟ εξαιρετική δουλειά.....Φαίνεταί όλη η αλήθεια.
14evi14 1 year ago 9
Φιλε εξαιρετικο βιντεο Μπραβο 5*
2005defender 1 year ago 4
its not Greater Macedonia. Its UNITED MACEDONIA.
dont forget that
painkiller991 1 year ago 2
@painkiller991 it can be united, it can be greater, it can be whatever but Macedonia it never will be!
Fyromologist 1 year ago
@Fyromologist we will see
painkiller991 1 year ago
@painkiller991 Hahahahaha, idiot you don't even now where macedonia was. For examble your town skopie was paionia land and not macedonia. 90 % of macedonia is in greece and you have only the region of monastiri who is greek macedonian land and we will took it back.Go back to steppes where you belong tatar
YUNAN87 1 year ago
MACEDONIAN 'till death!!!
fuck you all greek gypsies!!
WHITE PRIDE ⊕14/88卐
painkiller991 1 year ago 2
@painkiller991 go and die then...you have no reason to live...MACEDONIA WAS GREEK AND WILL EVER BE GREEK
14evi14 1 year ago
@painkiller991 LOL Fuck you gay slavic subhuman, adolf hitler would have been proud of your subhuman slavic ass LOL
TheBaronofBallstein 1 year ago
I looked everywhere on the United Nation Website and there is no country called Macedonia. The only Macedonia that exists legally is the province in northern Greece. I wonder what is all the debate about when the official name of the skops is FYROM. The name FYROM is recongnized by 195 countries of the UN. The people of FYROM are slavic like the polish and serbians etc..
makedonjia 1 year ago
Yiea sa patreotes We are not writing on any of Macedonchetos videos like
I am Macedonian to the right ever again . Let the Fyromonkeys talk to themselves .
He blocks any one that tells the truth , to the silly Skopjens ..
boycott all of his videos ,, and ask every Greek that posts there ,to stop .
thank you .
krifto sxolio
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
1) για και χαρά σε όλους
αγαπητοί φίλοι μην παραξενεύεστε οι κύριοι κάνουνε την δουλειά τους και αρκετά καλά μάλιστα.
γι όσους δεν είναι γνωστες τις ιστορίας :μετά τον δεύτερο παγκόσμιο πόλεμο ο ΓΕΙΤΟΝΑΣ μας Tito "εβαφτισε" την περιοχή μακεδονία με το σκεπτικο αστο να φαίνεται εάν δεν διαμαρτυρηθεί κανεις μέγια μας και χαρά μας διότι πάντοτε ήτανε τα ματια τους στην Θεσσαλονίκη και sτο Αιγαίο όπως και οι Βούλγαροι.
TheELLINAS1 1 year ago
2)και άντε αυτός έκανε το κομμάτι του, οι δικοί μας δήθεν ΕΘΝΙΚΟΦΡΟΝΕΣ 30 χρονια κρατούσανε το στόμα κλειστό λες και θα τους Μαστιγώνανε εάν προβάλανε αντίρρηση για την ονομασία.
αλλα τι περιμένεις εδώ ο καινούργιος πρόεδρος τις N.D είχε κάποτε αποχώρηση από το κόμμα, gia την Ιστορία τις αναγνωρίσεως
και είπαμε να και κάποιος με ΑΡX....A .να όμως που τα χρονια περάσανε και πάνε ρότα τώρα τον Σαμαρά τι λέει ???
αυτά τα αρχιγιλίκια είναι το πλήρωμα του χρόνου και το κλείσιμο του στόματος.
TheELLINAS1 1 year ago
3) για αυτό αγαπητοί φίλοι ας ξανβαλουμε το κεφάλι κάτω εμείς οι μικροί και ας ενώσουμε τις φωνές μας μπας και ξυπνήσουνε τα μανάρια μας οι Πολιτικοί, και περισσότερο να καταλάβουνε ότι εμείς δεν κοιμόμαστε και δεν είμαστε οι Έλληνες τις μπριζόλας και τις ρετσίνας, σεβόμαστε την ΠΑΤΡΙΔΑ μας και δεν θέλουμε τα παιδιά μας να γίνουνε κάποια ημερα "αλβανοσκοπιανακια".
TheELLINAS1 1 year ago
4) και οι καλοί μας γείτονες να καταλάβουν ότι δεν περνάνε αυτά,
κλαίμε για αρκετές χαμένες πατρίδες και δεν είμαστε διατεθειμένοι να χάσουμε και άλλες
με φιλια και εκτίμηση
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TheELLINAS1 1 year ago
The irredentist's and propagandists of FYROM not only attempt to rob the Hellenic people of their history but they also rob the world entire from invaluable knowledge of the past in the process. Distorting the truth of the Hellenic character and geography of Macedonia brings to life the Orwellian ministry of truth which produces only lies to fulfill its agenda. Another brick in the wall of global demise.
Fyromologist my respect's. Thank you.
rempetisa 1 year ago 11
FYROMIAN FEARS AND EXPECTATION
Since this country is a mixture of 40% Albanians, 40% Slavs (Bulgarians), 20% a mixture of gypsies, Turks, Serbians even a few Greeks etc . they fear a future split where their territories will be incorporated in the neighbouring countries for this reason they should invent a connection with the antiquity from which they
tor28gre 1 year ago
would have given a homogeneity in their population and since their land is connected geographically with a wider region that is characterized by a big history they considered legitimate to make her their trial and unite all these so much different people under a false common sentiment for the supposedly release of “enslaved” homelands fact that would also serve of course their expansive plans.
tor28gre 1 year ago
If their country would be named as Republic of Macedonia and their citizens Macedonians, when I, that I am Macedonian, by origin and not by locality travel in a foreigner country and tell to someone that will ask me that I am from Macedonia, from where will he occupy that I am????
Hence fatal they will have been remove from me thus my identity.
Who gives them that right??
tor28gre 1 year ago
Think therefore if they were on the position of a Greek Macedonian that lived in the Greek Macedonian province and one day because a country - that previously it was also the same province of some other country -decided it is named Macedonia and for this reason it should be removed from him his Macedonian identity.
tor28gre 1 year ago
They are saying that we dispute them, that we say that they don’t exist and that we deprive their right to be called as they want, which means Macedonians.
However actually it becomes precisely the opposite because they are those that dispute our existence and deprive our right to be Macedonians as our historical heritage fixes by monopolizing and claiming the exclusivity of name for their country and for themselves.
tor28gre 1 year ago
why on earth Hellenics have to demand the obvious?? Greeks have the right of self determination as they r indigenous ancients Makedonians..how we suppose to feel and react seeing skopians falsify Greek and world´s history?..how we suppose to feel when other countries call INCORECTLY skopia Makedonia?..Well, i blame our politics for apathy and disabillity..We must make them care..ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ..MAKEDONIA IS GREEK..
acheloidahellenic 1 year ago
To The Apostle Paul , during a dream a Macedonian appears saying
" ai gam isou maimou pou tha mas peis pws eiste Makethones "
But we did not understand this language in Fyrom ,,, so we built
the biggest cross in Skopje to mark this great moment in our Glorious history .
Macedonia timeless since 1991 !!!!
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
Bulgarians-Slavs arrived in the Balkans northern Greece area in 6th - 10th century and have absolutely no connection to Ancient Macedonians.
read about it.
lekos28 1 year ago
Encyclopedia Britannica: As invasions of the Balkan Peninsula from the north continued from Bulgars intermittently over the next four centuries, the Turkic element in the Bulgarians’ ethnic makeup was reinforced by strains derived from the Pechenegs, Kipchaks, and Cumans—all Turkic peoples.
lekos28 1 year ago
Encyclopedia Britannica: In this period Bulgaria became a cultural centre of eastern Europe, especially famous for its literary schools of Preslav (now Veliki Preslav) and Ohrid. Τhe Bulgars and Slavs had melded into a Slavic-speaking, Christianized people essentially identical to today’s Bulgarians.
lekos28 1 year ago
Name of Kumanovo!!!!!
Kumanovo (Vardaskian: Куманово, Albanian: Kumanovë) is thе third largest city in the Vardaska (after Skopje and Bitola) and is the seat of Kumanovo Municipality which is the largest municipality in the country.
lekos28 1 year ago