Do "green jobs" ever have the effective outcome to preserving and/or restoring environmental qualities to ensure the Earth is free from carbon pollution? That's what every environmental extremist wants people to believe in a phoney cause that obviously isn't going to show a significant change to the planet.
Every initiatives want decent hard working people to be brainwashed by a ridiculous concept so they'll be unaware they'll still accumulate more carbon emissions to the atmosphere.
@Illyrien Except the fact that it is often the State that tries to censor these very issues. It was the Bush administration that censored James Hansen; it was Cheney who allowed various energy companies to forgo 40 years of environmental regulation in the 2005 energy Bill. It was the United States that ousted James Watson from the IPCC in 2002 at the request of Exxon asking if he could be replaced because he was too scary...is 8 years ago too hard to remember?
@Illyrien This is the typical bullshit of making "The State" or some "other" an invisible specter that is out to get you.... the "State" is always changing business interests.
" Politics is the shadow cast on society by big business" - John Dewey
Bob Murphy is a great economist but an even greater framer - and thats why he gets these high-paid jobs at these think tanks.
Okay, you dont like that unholy alliance between Big Business and the State, fine, I wholeheartedly agree. But the only efficient solution to it, is to reduce the power of the state and this what Big Business can get out of it. We need business to return to making money through the market and not through the politicians.
Also 80% of Obama's energy stimulus jobs are going to foreign countries to produce green products such as wind turbines and solar panels.not to mention how he wants to close 11,000,000 acres in the West by Executive Order to keep Americans from our natural resources. Looks like Pres. Jimmy Carter will be the good old days.
want to make a start on saving the enviroment. stop buying shit you dont need with money you dont have. but if we all started doing that the whole system on which the economy runs collapses. thats why they program you at an early age to desire crap you dont need through TV advertising
The economy wouldn't collapse if we stopped buying shit we don't need on credit, thats what we need to do to save our economy. Also companies dont advertise to save the economy they advertise to sell their shit and their shit only.
@jjrglobal You're BOTH right. The U.S. economy is a farce, and is totally based on consumer spending. If and WHEN everyone does stop buying, the economy will indeed collapse, and it WILL be painful. But, it's what needs to happen. Only then will the market finally restructure and reallocate resources to where they need to have REAL viable growth.
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Our economy of present is little more than debt financed consumption, and of course that's not sustainable.
LMAO! Robert Murphy killed this nonsense easily.
Well done!
TheManiacalSatanist6 2 months ago
Do "green jobs" ever have the effective outcome to preserving and/or restoring environmental qualities to ensure the Earth is free from carbon pollution? That's what every environmental extremist wants people to believe in a phoney cause that obviously isn't going to show a significant change to the planet.
Every initiatives want decent hard working people to be brainwashed by a ridiculous concept so they'll be unaware they'll still accumulate more carbon emissions to the atmosphere.
Ringvireot 4 months ago
#strong
bisek 1 year ago
i like how he says that someone could only hate this if they were in the pay of big oil...like Mr. Murphy right here
Independent Institute
Pacific Research Institute
IER
Mackinac Center for Public Policy - ALL FUNDED BY EXXON
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883
So? Its not as if the State would ever fund a man like him who wont obay its infinite wisdom.
Illyrien 1 year ago
@Illyrien Except the fact that it is often the State that tries to censor these very issues. It was the Bush administration that censored James Hansen; it was Cheney who allowed various energy companies to forgo 40 years of environmental regulation in the 2005 energy Bill. It was the United States that ousted James Watson from the IPCC in 2002 at the request of Exxon asking if he could be replaced because he was too scary...is 8 years ago too hard to remember?
spinner883 1 year ago
@Illyrien This is the typical bullshit of making "The State" or some "other" an invisible specter that is out to get you.... the "State" is always changing business interests.
" Politics is the shadow cast on society by big business" - John Dewey
Bob Murphy is a great economist but an even greater framer - and thats why he gets these high-paid jobs at these think tanks.
spinner883 1 year ago
@spinner883
Okay, you dont like that unholy alliance between Big Business and the State, fine, I wholeheartedly agree. But the only efficient solution to it, is to reduce the power of the state and this what Big Business can get out of it. We need business to return to making money through the market and not through the politicians.
Illyrien 1 year ago 4
nice analysis
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Also 80% of Obama's energy stimulus jobs are going to foreign countries to produce green products such as wind turbines and solar panels.not to mention how he wants to close 11,000,000 acres in the West by Executive Order to keep Americans from our natural resources. Looks like Pres. Jimmy Carter will be the good old days.
WildFireFilms 1 year ago
Robert Murphy is the man!
Always interesting to listen to his lectures.
job187 2 years ago
want to make a start on saving the enviroment. stop buying shit you dont need with money you dont have. but if we all started doing that the whole system on which the economy runs collapses. thats why they program you at an early age to desire crap you dont need through TV advertising
robertwc82 2 years ago
@robertwc82
The economy wouldn't collapse if we stopped buying shit we don't need on credit, thats what we need to do to save our economy. Also companies dont advertise to save the economy they advertise to sell their shit and their shit only.
jjrglobal 1 year ago
i never said they were doing people a favour by convincing them to buy their products. i know the reason companies advertise.
the system is a sytem of mass production, and if the supply outweighs demand this is a very bad thing for the company
im not condoning the system though
robertwc82 1 year ago
@jjrglobal You're BOTH right. The U.S. economy is a farce, and is totally based on consumer spending. If and WHEN everyone does stop buying, the economy will indeed collapse, and it WILL be painful. But, it's what needs to happen. Only then will the market finally restructure and reallocate resources to where they need to have REAL viable growth.
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Our economy of present is little more than debt financed consumption, and of course that's not sustainable.
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MrSushan 2 years ago
great post mate!
kakahass 2 years ago 2
It seems to me like he repeated the one of the lessons from Bastia.
VityokOrgUa 2 years ago 8
Difficult for a good economist not to. ;)
Moragauth 2 years ago 8