for those who havent already, read the book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Gary Allen. This was recommended by Pres. Benson in a General Conference.
Eisenhower helped the Russians ram a terrible treaty down the throat of Austria. Then he glorified the treaty to the American people as some great big coup for the west. This victory was also credited to the generosity of the Russians and a new spirit of goodwill. Eisenhower insisted on immediate ratification of the treaty by Congress, and drove it through using White House pressure.
Problem with the apostle vs. prophet argument. #1 this talk was not given in a church meeting, so it's irrelevant, #2 the President of the Church will never talk about politics, other than "vote for good people, support good laws and be involved", so of course he never gave this talk as President, #3 it's true what he's saying no matter what his title was when he said it. Many others, LDS and non-LDS have been saying the same things for years. Study it out for yourself.
Funny how he stopped talking like this once he became President of th Church. Hmmm, I wonder if that should tell us something. No wait. It is better we don't think. JUST OBEY. WE MUST NEVER QUESTION. JUST OBEY.
How is that funny? Your comment is absurd. There is so much noise and confusion in the world as well as other evils and horrors! The LDS church and its prophets are a beacon of light, truth, and love for their fellow men and women. You should be ashamed you are mocking this man or the LDS church!!!
First off, he said this as an apostles not as the prophet. Secondly, once he became prophet (the prophet) he stopped talking like this aka a paranoid right-winger. You are the one who should be ashamed, not I. You should be ashamed of your inability to understand a clearly stated comment.
Social Secruity was created so that we can all be tracked down when the fema camps come into play, remeber this has been in planning since the 1950's only we can stop a takeover...
Look up the Human Development Index. You will find that social welfare states completely blow the United States away in health statistics and spend far less.
You know what astonishes me is people actually praise socialism here in america. College studnts want Universal healthcare which is a HUGE mistake! Its been proven that socialism is not the right way to go, just look at Europe for crying out loud!! I am EXTREMELY worried about the next four years for America. God help us all and forgive those dumbass politicians for they know not what they do.
Yet from the European perspective we look at America in aghast (in particular respects). The U.S. system of healthcare is a joke. Socialism has not been proven to be the way NOT to go. I am worried that the UK is further mimicking the United States system. We already have an income divide as bad as that in the States. I really do not understand what American's have to fear from a welfare state. Very very few people in Britain would wish to have it the American way.
@ClintJ2009 Why are you so paranoid my friend? America is a democracy -- if you want to keep a pure capitalist society, you are in the wrong country. The US will be much better without the anti left, right wingers. People over corporations for America; government FOR the people!
@uxwj4258 Educate yourself my friend America is NOT a democracy it IS a Constitutional Republic. There is a huge difference between the two. In a democracy you have 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner aka. majority rules. With a Constitutional Republic you still have two wolves and a sheep deciding whats for dinner only now the sheep has his right to bear arms and protects itself.
@ClintJ2009 Oh dear more American blind patriotism, and the US thirst for absolute capitalism is succeeding? I have visited America and the poverty is shocking. Oh yeah, and your government is corrupt as fuck.
What I do not undertsand is how people just cannoy see whats happening here in America. Ezra is right on the money! I am not Mormon, but I am of the Irish Roman Catholic faith and what is going on has not only divided many in the Mormon faith, but also in mine and all the Christian faith's. There has been a great division amoungest us, People need to wake up, Socialism and the Evil it brings are openig your front door, and you are doing nothing to stop it. Is America that dumbed down now?
RON PAUL 2012!!!
mikebblack 9 hours ago
for those who havent already, read the book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Gary Allen. This was recommended by Pres. Benson in a General Conference.
Origin305 9 months ago
Hell no need to worry about socialism, communism all 10 planks are all ready in effect in the states.
spitchill 10 months ago
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Ein1939 1 year ago
Are you suggesting that Eisenhower was not a patriot?
elliottspitzer 1 year ago
@elliottspitzer Of course not, I mean he only served in the U.S. military due to his own personal vendetta not for the American way of life : \
RyderStudios 1 year ago
Eisenhower helped the Russians ram a terrible treaty down the throat of Austria. Then he glorified the treaty to the American people as some great big coup for the west. This victory was also credited to the generosity of the Russians and a new spirit of goodwill. Eisenhower insisted on immediate ratification of the treaty by Congress, and drove it through using White House pressure.
twitstixify 1 year ago
Socialism teaches us not to work harder and makes us depends on the
government. If the government can give you a lot of privileges, it can
also dictate you, marginalize what you can do and even take away
those privileges that they have given you if you fail to obey their rules.
It's a bait and switch tactic, cleverly disguised as helping the poor
when in fact, its not even free, because the cost of commodities
and taxes goes higher.
ctrlaltdeletebabe 1 year ago
@ctrlaltdeletebabe the same can be said of the market.
Garhunt05 1 year ago
@ctrlaltdeletebabe and your education system.. is failing!
Janeisclassy 1 week ago
@Janeisclassy
The parents fails to educate their kids at home, it's not the fault of the school system.
Third World countries has 40 students with 1 teacher in elementary grades and they
are very diligent to finish college eventhough they are poor. American kids are spoiled
and their parents don't take time to educate them at home, wether for school assignments or good attitude.
ctrlaltdeletebabe 1 week ago
Eisenhower was a hypocrite, if he believed in Freedom, he wouldn't have tried to destroy so many democratic nations around the world, i.e, Iran, Congo
and what is that in the background, a toilet flushing?
Sreggaematic09 1 year ago
Problem with the apostle vs. prophet argument. #1 this talk was not given in a church meeting, so it's irrelevant, #2 the President of the Church will never talk about politics, other than "vote for good people, support good laws and be involved", so of course he never gave this talk as President, #3 it's true what he's saying no matter what his title was when he said it. Many others, LDS and non-LDS have been saying the same things for years. Study it out for yourself.
mikesturko 1 year ago
Funny how he stopped talking like this once he became President of th Church. Hmmm, I wonder if that should tell us something. No wait. It is better we don't think. JUST OBEY. WE MUST NEVER QUESTION. JUST OBEY.
GohModley 2 years ago
How is that funny? Your comment is absurd. There is so much noise and confusion in the world as well as other evils and horrors! The LDS church and its prophets are a beacon of light, truth, and love for their fellow men and women. You should be ashamed you are mocking this man or the LDS church!!!
BadHairsRevenge1981 2 years ago
First off, he said this as an apostles not as the prophet. Secondly, once he became prophet (the prophet) he stopped talking like this aka a paranoid right-winger. You are the one who should be ashamed, not I. You should be ashamed of your inability to understand a clearly stated comment.
GohModley 2 years ago
It's developed by the same UN office that monitors and reports on "Global Warming"
Goodman922 2 years ago
The Human Development Index is completely arbitrary. It's been referred to as the "How Scandanavian are you" index.
Goodman922 2 years ago
Social Secruity was created so that we can all be tracked down when the fema camps come into play, remeber this has been in planning since the 1950's only we can stop a takeover...
himrasmus101 2 years ago
Take easy Daniel.
chefuser1966 2 years ago
LOL.
GohModley 2 years ago
Look up the Human Development Index. You will find that social welfare states completely blow the United States away in health statistics and spend far less.
Samyaza1 2 years ago
You know what astonishes me is people actually praise socialism here in america. College studnts want Universal healthcare which is a HUGE mistake! Its been proven that socialism is not the right way to go, just look at Europe for crying out loud!! I am EXTREMELY worried about the next four years for America. God help us all and forgive those dumbass politicians for they know not what they do.
ClintJ2009 3 years ago 12
Yet from the European perspective we look at America in aghast (in particular respects). The U.S. system of healthcare is a joke. Socialism has not been proven to be the way NOT to go. I am worried that the UK is further mimicking the United States system. We already have an income divide as bad as that in the States. I really do not understand what American's have to fear from a welfare state. Very very few people in Britain would wish to have it the American way.
Pommit 2 years ago
uhhh i need to move where you live if theres alot of socialists there. Must be alot of smart people.
U must be the town redneck u fucker cracker big. Go back to Jesus Camp you chuck baldwinite.
devyxmas 2 years ago
Very weak argument!!
chefuser1966 2 years ago
Haha so is Europe's economy dumbass
ClintJ2009 2 years ago
great comment
daizee106 2 years ago
@ClintJ2009 That's because they're brainwashed. Why else would someone be a liberal.
prooc 1 year ago
@ClintJ2009 Why are you so paranoid my friend? America is a democracy -- if you want to keep a pure capitalist society, you are in the wrong country. The US will be much better without the anti left, right wingers. People over corporations for America; government FOR the people!
uxwj4258 1 year ago
@uxwj4258 Educate yourself my friend America is NOT a democracy it IS a Constitutional Republic. There is a huge difference between the two. In a democracy you have 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner aka. majority rules. With a Constitutional Republic you still have two wolves and a sheep deciding whats for dinner only now the sheep has his right to bear arms and protects itself.
pyromeds 1 year ago
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@ClintJ2009 they do know what they do, they are evil satanic men.
Snooperking 1 year ago
@ClintJ2009 Oh dear more American blind patriotism, and the US thirst for absolute capitalism is succeeding? I have visited America and the poverty is shocking. Oh yeah, and your government is corrupt as fuck.
TheDangerMouseUK 8 months ago
@ClintJ2009 are you blind... american's die because they can't get simple medical care.. and that is acceptable to you??
Janeisclassy 1 week ago
What I do not undertsand is how people just cannoy see whats happening here in America. Ezra is right on the money! I am not Mormon, but I am of the Irish Roman Catholic faith and what is going on has not only divided many in the Mormon faith, but also in mine and all the Christian faith's. There has been a great division amoungest us, People need to wake up, Socialism and the Evil it brings are openig your front door, and you are doing nothing to stop it. Is America that dumbed down now?
MIKIBOB 3 years ago 2
We all need to listen to President Benson!!!
flowerheimer 3 years ago 7
The time is here when the people reject the God of Freedom. So changes are coming. BIG CHANGES!
Put your seatbelts on.
betweenFloor2 3 years ago
Looks like we are much closer to socialism after the election and will be even closer begining Jan 20, 2009
gsevelin 3 years ago