We are so concerned about the seen/aware, but the unseen/unaware effects us the most.
No? Then we ALL saw this coming, didn't we?
This series discusses/shows many "things". One "thing" it does not show is how close the "destruction" looks a lot like the Hutchison Effect and cold fusion reactions/effects. Again, similar-to but not exactly-like sticking Manhattan in a dysfunctional microwave-oven and waiting for it to "ding". Oh that's right, it did "ding". Oh it didn't "ding"? Nice Ground Zero.
The Kings of Saudi Arabia had to know What what taking place. Is this why Osama was never caught? ...this has huge implications. 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq. WHO WAS THAT SAUDI MILLIONAIRE THAT OFFERED THEN MAYOR GUILLIANI THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AFTER 9/11? WAS THE WHOLE THING ORCHESTRATED BY THE KINGS IN SAUDI ARABIA AND BUSH AND HIS NEOCONS?
The United States and in turn with their many many minions, our planet is governed by THE CRIMINALLY INSANE.....ASK YOURSELF LOGICAL QUESTIONS.....WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU, YOUR FAMILY....FOR ALL HUMANITY? Its SICK DEMONIC & BIBLICAL! For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.......SHOUT IT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS AMERICA & PREPARE!
@houstone29 Have u ever seen 2 towers collapse so SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH?? they both came down the same way , EXACTLY, U couldnt do it that way if u even planned IT /or could u ?? if u have it controlled, ALSO can a TINY little 757 plane SNEAK through to hit the Pentagon ??? and NOT be any video of it?? the most secure building in the country?? just ask yourself LOGICAL questions
So if this really was conspired and manipulated by the U.S. Government. This just proves how fucked up this world is. All of them lives lost in the "war" in the middle east was all for nothing. Simply nothing and just senseless.
@jmpriestly I've noticed how dangerous it is for truth seekers to point out the guilt of the real culprits. David Ray Griffin ,Jim Fetzer, Barrie Zwicker, Richard Gage, Steven Jones, Webster Tarpley, Jesse Ventura etc. all moving from safehouse to safehouse as they evade the hit squads who monitor their every move as they go about their clandestine book publishing and lecture tours and guest spots on TV and radio shows, telling people how dangerous it is to seek the truth.
i think bin liner made some video's taking the piss out of the american goverment and how they tried to blame him.yes he probably did threaten the u.s wouldnt you then they got pissed and started a fake war to steal all the oil and to brain wash people so they forgot about 9-11 and dubed different translations on bin liners tapes to say yes i did the 9-11 stuff .....pretty sloppy if you ask me
The term terrorist/terrorism cannot mean what it means, because that term was never used with out :bin Laden or suicide bomber or even islam attached to it.... WOW this is very mind boggling, I'm completely disgusted that these jack-offs are still getting away with treason and mass murder...
How do we stop them and gain back or human independence????
Yeah, muslim people living in EU and US have been getting a lot of shit thanks to the constant media propaganda saying TERRORISTS WAR ON TERROR ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM BOMBERS 9/11 TERRORIST TERROR WAR ON MUSLIM TERROR TERORRRISTS
@aznofwar Well, at least most of us Americans aren't stupid anymore. Thank Christ for that. Here's the deal. The US Government REALLY FUCKED THEMSELVES ON 9/11! If there is another huge attack on US soil, how many people NOW would actually believe that it came from Islamic terrorists? Not me! That's for sure. How fucking stupid could our government be thinking that a REAL investigation would not be a demand eventually? The US Gov't should be scared of us all. We are fighting back!
The video "connect the dots" are putting all sorts of disinformation out there. They won't let anyone post comments regarding the no plane theory. This is a objective subject that none of us have all the answers to. Keep ears open and listen to all.
The AMERICAN people want REVENGE against CIA CRIMINALZ for killing 3000 using THERMATE on 911 and mailing ANTHRAX to Senators Daschle to pass the UNPATRIOTIC BILL .
The reason they staged such an elaborate HOAX is to encircle CHINA, and RUSSIA for KHAZARIA and Pakistani NUCLEAR weapons. The civilizational ally is INDIA .. a double agent nation.
The YANK bustards will only destroy USA in the end and CHINA will RISE.
We know 911 = INSIDER JOB to suppress other races under the WHITE ANGLO
thermate? Wasn't it thermite, or super duper thermite? Was that disproven also? Oh yeah, so was thermate. I believe the retards now point to super nano thermate, since it is made up and cannot be disproven.
they cannot fake WMD's, but are capable of all of these other flawless executed conspiracies? They can make miraculous invisible silent explosives (that happen to coincide with a plane crashing into a building), but cannot fake a serial number? They could easily fake / steal / lie about having weapons if they had the level of sophistication that you are claiming. Of course there has been corruption and poor judgments by the government, the point is you are taking it WAYYY too far.
I should have just taken your word and ignore it. Somehow I thought it was actually gonna make some sense somewhere in it's rantings. There are millions like it, unfortunately.
The claim that a bin laden photo is fake because he has gray hair in a later photo is one of the funniest additions to this myth that I have seen. It then mentions that his ring is gold, and he is not allowed to wear gold. Shame on him! When has he been known for following rules? Also, no mention of why any of these claims make sense or matter.
This is ALL OVER THE PLACE, contradicts itself, and spits out one wild claim after another without ever getting to a central thesis.
in regard to your comment about bin laden, there is footage that was used by US/world media that has been scientifically proved NOT to fit the facial structures of the "other" bin laden.
i would post the link but it looks like you, yourself, have not spent much effort researching this topic deeply enough.
you have an incredibly bias outlook, which i did not have when i started researching this years ago.
What was the significance of the video that YOU claim is not Bin Laden without evidence? Could he have not wanted to reveal his location and die?
Could a face change over the course of years, esp if you have millions of dollars and are hiding? Who "proved" that is wasn't him BTW? You will believe a video that you are looking at is NOT Bin Laden, but believe all kinds of other wild claims without evidence? What about the audio, was it also a guy that sounded exactly like him?
i respect that you are taking this seriously , unlike alot of people in this debate.
bare with me and i will hook you up with some evidence...
the footage i refer to is quite famous, it is not underground. it was broadcast widely on television networks.
it shows him with a shorter, fatter nose and a shorter face.
in my mind there is no way in hell this is the same person, as a portrait painter i was about to set out proving this but i found it had already been done by oxford uni + others
if it is not him, and just someone that looks remarkably like him... I still don't see a ton of significance. Bin Laden himself has many reasons to be deceptive in videos, including the security of his own life.
I'm not sure why would they attempt to frame a guy that they would not be able to catch. Either they are highly sophisticated and capable of pulling this off, or they aren't. It can't be both.
Why didn't they also plant or lie about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq if they are capable of a conspiracy on this scale?
Face it, you would never even admit there was a plane that hit the world trade center if it was not on video and witnessed by millions. It is good to have questions and do SCIENTIFIC research, but you simply are going WAY to far with this.
Amazing you find this conspiracy so grand. It's the most simplest of conspiracies, really. Especially considering the stronghold the conspirators has on the minds of the masses. People trust their agents (the conventional media houses). When you think about it....this entire conspiracy was bought from the media. Everything on live TV, from the impact of the planes on the towers to the infamous "shock and awe".
it is highly grand, thousands and thousands of people would have to be involved and also remain silent. I will never except that super duper thermite brought a building down, or that silent invisible explosives are possible. Like I said, if they had anywhere NEAR that type of sophistication, they wouldn't have been caught not having found WMDS.
How many thousands of people would it really take? The grandest of schemes are those planned by very few and brought to fruition by many, the 'incognisant accordance'; so to speak. We see this around us everyday; in law, finance and economics, certain religious sects. The 'best' lies are the grandest of them. Whether you want to believe/disbelieve that a compound that is a common agent in demolition charges ['thermate'] was used to take down those buildings is up to you.
thermite causes a huge fireball an little damage to steel beams. There was no fireball. THOUSANDS would have to be involved to setup a demolition, and it would take MONTHS.
Bin Laden also took credit for the attacks. I'm sure any REAL evidence you will just claim is part of the conspiracy. What about the human remains at the pentagon (from the flight). Were those planted? Stop playing a lame detective game with NO evidence where people's lives are involved. Have some respect.
Bin Laden took credit does it for you? You know how many different and adversary terrorist groups took credit for the London bombings? MI5 was bombarded with calls that it was IRA, PLO, but the most salacious claim for them was, of course, the CI...um umm al qaeda. Don't play that people's lives nonsense. There are people who've been in those building, have friends and family who died in there who are NOT buying this bullshit story. Sure you can explain WTC7 too!?!....about time someone does.
I'm just a little annoyed at your simple-mindedness. Thousands of people to setup a demolition job? Have you ever seen a demolition team at work??? Do you expect that there'd be a news coverage on CNN to tell you that the demolition team has commenced work in WTC towers? People who worked in these buildings gave witness of "strange" works taking place for weeks! Can you respect them?
a demolition on this scale would take MONTHS, and hundreds of workers, and this is a part of the thousands of people that would have to remain silent. Why would they demolish it on TV after hitting it with a plane? Why not demolish it in the first place if you are going to blame terrorists?
Watch the national geographic special, where the top "truthers" are given a chance and fail in the worst way possible. You will see why a silent invisible explosion is not possible.
Well, I'm sure glad you happened to be watching National Geographic for them to explain to you that a "silent explosion" was not possible. Now you know as much as most 5 year olds. You seem to be an expert on conspiracy and how much conspirators it takes to take down a couple buildings. It's real easy to manipulate minds like you...seeing it on National Geographic and that does it for you? Do you take time to even Google some unclassified CIA files sometime?
Exactly, even a 5 year old knows that a silent invisible explosion is not possible.
It is not just that one item that was debunked, it was nearly every piece of lame unconfirmed bullshit that you are using as part of your lame detective game. Top truthers were given a chance, and failed miserably. I suppose that you now consider the truthers that made fools of themselves in the presence of scientific evidence part of the conspiracy.
You still have not given your own account of what happened.
I'm supposed to give an account of what happened? You're just pathetic. I'm simply claiming there are seeming anomalies (NOT claiming anything conclusively) and you want me to explain.
I'm asking YOU who seemingly have the answers, one question...what brought down WTC7? It came down on live TV...but since the Commission didn't see it fit to explain that in their report, I'm proposing that was a magic trick, maybe David Blaine's doing. Can you at least oppose that with something credible?
I can't make myself anymore explicable. I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW! NEVER DID ANYWHERE IN MY ARGUMENTS. It is you; oh wise, one that is stating what could never happen, what's possible and what's not. It is you I still charge to explain WTC7 imploding in on itself. I admit it's unfair to be asking that of you...in effect that's just rhetorical. So my theory still stands. WTC7 was taking down by a stage magic - just refute that & quit with the pseudo-sentimental scat!
Why are you obsessing over WTC7? It has nothing to do with any of the deaths on 9/11. What are you trying to say happened to it?
Has it become your life goal to prove that WTC7 was demolished with a silent invisible explosive? Is this the building that you focus on because you know that discrediting the way people died in the main WTC is pathetic and without evidence?
You're laughable, pathetic and woefully manipulative. You base your arguments around platitudes and assumptions. What life goals do you keep referring to? I'm actually just having fun pointing out to you how simple-minded you are. You swallow anything fed to you. You don't know how to think for yourself, disprove logic, recognise and admit to an anomaly. Why is it hard to say you DON'T KNOW!?!... The 9/11 Commission Report finds WTC7 an anomaly, why can't you? For you it's a matter of faith.
Bin Laden's confession is not an assumption, it is the end of your stupid game which you cannot accept.
What are you trying to say happened? Are you still babbling on about conspiracy without giving any actual explanation of your own? Great way to discredit the way that people died. Get a life.
Once again you bring up WTC7, which you now say is an anomaly. Even if it was not completely clear to a 4 year old what happened to the building, what does WTC7 as an "anomaly" prove?
dude, seriously, except defeat man. machokokoa has schooled you on every point. just let it go, he's far brighter and you keep reitterating the same points over and over. no one here has actually said that the US and possibly UK governments WERE behind the attacks but have simply pointed out some annomolies that have presented themselves that need questioning! please just stop. for you're own sake, you'll give yourself a tuma or something.
If there are small anomalies with WTC , fine. Nobody died in the building. An anomaly is different that saying that super duper thermite brought down a building, or that there is an impostor that looks and sounds exactly like osama bin laden confessing. That is called being retarded.
i mean 'anomaly' in the loosest sense you tard. i only said it because if i said 'suspicious evidence' you would have probably bombed my country being the gun toting, flag waving, red neck, hick that you are. americans are a fine race of people, but it's keyboard warriors like you that drag the average down.
I do not own a gun or a flag, and I am not a hick. You however like to ask questions about the way people died having no evidence to back up what you say.
alright, how about this then. there were several explosions that were heard at the bottom of the the two towers. explosions seen, that happened no where near the crash site. the building fell just like a building that had been demolished on purpose. there was residue of advanced explosives left on the steel found at the bottom of the tower. the pentagon refused to release any images of the plane crashing into it, apart from a 5 frame caption that never clearly shows the plane.
the plane wreckage at the pentagon was few and far between, the hole in the side of the building was no where near big enough to fit that of a boeing 757, it was big enough however to fit that of an old military plane that was being grounded later that year along with the wreckage found. flight 93 seemingly disintergrated upon impact an incident that had never occured in the whole of aviation crash history. the wreckage found barely made up the the size of a small cesner, let alone a massive jet
what about the verified flight path and video of the plane at the pentagon which you seem to think looks like a missile. 95% of the wreckage was recovered, as well as human remains which you probably will say were planted inside a missile. What about the eyewitness accounts?
were the poles that the plane took down in DC on the way to the pentagon a controlled demolition with super duper thermite? Face it, you'd never admit that a plane had hit WTC either if there wasn't hundreds of videos.
@JohnnyMac496 Can you suck my balls already and shut that stupid mouth of yours? And no, I'm not being an internet bully, I tell this to each and every blind fuck out there on their face. Open your stupid eyes!
my eyes are wide open, I saw the planes hit the buildings with my own eyes. I saw bin laden confess. Keep your gay lame detective game going if you want, you will NEVER prove ANY of it.
the steel from the twin towers wreckage wasn't taken for phorensic analysis but was sold straight away to the lowest bidder, a criminal offence under international terrorism law. jet fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to even weaken reinforced steel and concrete let alone cause it to collapse. the fires were clearly starved of oxygen as the smoke was thick and black and the fire dark orange. this is just some of the evidence that SUGGESTS that 9/11 was a government conspiracy.
jet fuel can and will weaken steel and this has been proven. not to mention you are forgetting that these towers were also struck by a huge airline jet at 500 mph which tends to leave a hole in the building.
look, i think we are going to have to agree to disagree. we're both turning into super lame keyboard warriors over a subject matter which neither of us has any expertise. you are free to believe that it was nothing more than an aggressive attack by a muslim fundamentalist organisation and i am free to believe that MAYBE the US government had something to do with it. which is the point i was trying to labour all along, but of course you were too thick skinned to see that.
A steel structured building has NEVER collapsed due to fire. In 2004 a steel structured building in Venezuela was engulfed in flames covering 26 of its 56 floors, this burned for 18hrrs, and the building remained intact. In 2000 a similar building in Spain burned completely for 20hrs and did not collapse.
The head designer of the WTC stated that the towers were designed to WITHSTAND the impact and resulting damage of one or MORE airliners.
Does nobody listen to what the experts say anymore?
Your argument is completely invalid. The building you are talking about was not also hit by a commercial jet at 500 mph. If you are going to try to sound like a scientist, at least compare similar events.
No, the report on 911 tells us that the WTC collapsed due to the plane impacts, but more importantly due to the resulting fires. That's why I included what the designer of the WTC had said: that the towers were designed to WITHSTAND the impact of one or more airliners and the resulting damage.
It's not a case of trying to sound like a scientist - it's a case of trying to explain what the experts are saying.
They're experts for a reason: they know what they're talking about.
It does not matter what it was DESIGNED to do. It clearly failed, and once again the events are not similar. I could DESIGN something to do whatever I want, that doesn't mean it will work. That is not evidence.
The report states the PRIMARY reason behind the collapse was FIRE.
However
1. No steel structured building has EVER collapse due to FIRE. And yet, within the space of 24hrs, THREE steel structured buildings collapse within metre of each other, apparently, due to FIRE.
2. The WTC was designed to WITHSTAND the impact and resulting FIRE of one or MORE jet airliners
Do you see what the experts have been getting at now?
There was a huge plane that hit the building in addition to jet fuel. Those are givens to anyone that saw the attack. Ket fuel also has been proven in experiment to weaken steel.
Refined Kerosene doesn't burn at a high temperature, or else it would melt the inside of the Jet engines.
Kerosene typically has a max temperature of about 900'C. To melt steel the temperature must be around 1300'C to 2000'C depending on the alloy.
Considering the design of the WTC was made for the sole purpose of withstanding a plane crash and the resulting fire (which would include Jet-fuel), then we are still left with the fact that NO building should have collapsed, let alone THREE
Yeah, weaken it. But that would take days, not 7 hours.
Like I've already stated, there's been steel structured buildings engulfed in flames of similar temperatures that have burned for 24hrs and not weakened in structure at all.
I used it as an example to show that temperatures of fire do not weaken steel that much in such a short period of time.
People (like you) are told that because jet fuel was in the fire that it suddenly becomes some immense inferno that can collapse steel building in 7hrs.
However the basic fact is that it does not burn at a high enough temperature to weaken steel in such a short period of time.
What you are saying is fact is NOT fact. A recent experiment by national geographic showed that the steel weakened under similar conditions in a very short period of time.
Anyway you're forgetting that the experiment cannot possibly have been under "similar" conditions or else it would have not had those results.
Here's why:
1) If the temp was so high (1300-2000'C to weaken the steel enough) then why is there a picture of a woman stood in the impact hole?
2) Eye-witness accounts do not suggest the heat was that intense. Many speak of heat for 30 seconds or so, and some even speak of feeling the cool air from the impact hole.
There's been a computerised demonstration of 9/11 carried out. But as this documentary (and many other people involved) points out, the variables were exaggerated far beyond the conditions of the day.
I am by no means suggesting 9/11was an "inside job" - but there are just too many things that seem so out of place, so I just can't take the official story at face value.
Of course, 2 planes hit the WTC, but it should not have collapsed in that manner. Yes, "shit happens", but not like that.
You answer your own question in this one. There was cool air coming through the hole (or simply air), and the woman needed to breathe. Of course that air would be cooler than inside. I do not know how long into the fire the woman was there ( i doubt long) , but the surrounding temp (while still unbearable) would not instantly be as hot as the fire itself. The woman sadly did not survive, nor did some of the steel. If the plane and fire didnt bring it down, what did?
I see your point, however when we look at that photo, and other photos from different angles, there is no evidence of a fire capable of melting the steel.
Compare the photo's of the WTC to photos of other fires burning in a steel buildings and you'll see that the fires look dissimilar.
"If the plane and fire didnt bring it down, what did?"
I don't know - unlike many others I won't claim it was GWB who set it up, but from what I've seen/heard/read, I know that we haven't heard the full story.
A fire does not have to look special to bend steel, there was plenty of fire visible. You give the US government too much credit as an ultra sophisticated giant. Really, they were simply attacked and defeated that day. A government as sophisticated as you are claiming would probably just have planted WMD's in Iraq. Instead, they made a foolish public mistake. They are either sophisticated or they aren't. It can't be both.
"A fire does not have to look special to bend steel"
Oh but it does. Check out the pics from that Spanish fire in 2000 - or any other fire in a steel building. The flames will be a brighter colour - almost orange.
Compare it to the WTC and you can hardly see the flames - its just smoke. What does this tell us?
a) The fire was not intense
b) It was not spreading fast
c) It was smouldering, and therefore not capable of damaging the steel enough.
I don't know what to tell you on this, other than it DID collapse enough floors to cause the single floors below it to collapse one by one. If you have a more logical explanation of what happened, fine. It is also fact that there is no such thing as a silent invisible explosive or demolition.
"If you have a more logical explanation of what happened, fine"
Your take:
Planes hit the WTC, which was designed to withstand the impact - then it collapses within 7hrs.
The main cause of the collapse was fire - despite the fact that no steel structured building has ever collapsed due to fire, but 3 collapse on one day, within metres of each other.
My take:
I don't know what caused it to collapse - but I don't think it wasn't fire, as the fire wasn't strong enough
Mine is more logical, since you are simply saying you don't have a clue what happened. There is not a logical explanation for another reason that it could have collapsed. There is not such thing as a silent invisible explosive.
Also, once again you are not comparing like events. You omit that the building was also struck by a commercial airline jet when you say "no steel structure has ever collapsed due to fire"
Here is another statement for you:
Every recent building that has been struck by a commercial airline jet has collapsed.
Right, two planes hit the WTC. However the WTC survived the impact and returned to a stable state.
But we are told the collapse was due to fire, not the planes, but it has already been shown that the fire was not intense enough to cause a collapse so fast (7hrs after).
Therefore you're statement of:
"Every recent building that has been struck by a commercial airline jet has collapsed "..
is a moot point. Especially when we consider one of the main features was to resist a jet impact.
Hmmm..... the tower should have made it (but didn't). It does not matter what it is "designed" to do! I could design something to do whatever I want, that doesn't mean that it will work. Even if it was "designed" to "withstand" the jet ..........(that hadnt been invented yet) , still irrelavent! It failed!
"Even if it was "designed" to "withstand" the jet ..........(that hadnt been invented yet)"
That's not true, commercial airlines were common by the 1950s and the first jet airliner, the 707 was introduced in 1959. The WTC main tower was not finished until 1972.
"still irrelavent! It failed! "
For christ sake - the towers did their job - they withstood the impact of the planes. The fire is what is said to have collpased them. Look at the fires - they're not intense enought to melt steel.
You've constantly said that you don't know what happened, yet at the same time act like you are some sort of authority on the matter. You know less about the subject than nearly anyone.
You should get your facts correct before posting a stupid comment that jets were not invented before construction of the twin towers. Jet engine construction has been around since the late 40,s, commercial jet engine flight started in the early 50,s. You are over 20 years out, you sir are an idiot.
First off, I never said that jets hadn't been invented yet, that was your own retarded misinterpretation. Additionally, the building was not made to withstand a MODERN COMMERCIAL AIRLINE jet.
Misinterpretation?? You docile clown, you don't even know what you are writing do you. Read what you typed you imbecilic incoherent typing moron. Your sentence structure and typing skills could be easily misinterpreted for a monkey's trying to act intelligent and passing as legible. The difference between modern commercial jets to those of the 60,s and 70,s is mostly cosmetic. You are an idiot who has no clue what you are typing, just another retard with a chronic moronic opinion on u-tube vids.
Look buddie i have no desire or intentions to get into a debate about 7/11. Everyone has their own opinions and they are welcome to them. I am not American, so that topic would not be high on my agenda to get into a discussion on you-tube like it would be to maybe most American's. So on that note i bid you good day sir.
You said "Even if it was "designed" to "withstand" the jet ..........(that hadnt been invented yet)"
From that I gathered you were referring to Jets, if not Jets, what were you referring to had not been invented yet?
And on what basis do you conclude I "know less about the subject than nearly anyone"?
All I've stated is that I don't know what caused the collapse, because from closer analysis of the towers and their collapse - it becomes clear that fire/impacts were not the cause.
You know less about the subject than nearly anyone because you state that you don't know what happened. How has it become "clear" that fire/impacts were not the cause when you have no idea what the cause was?
like i said, i neither believe or disbelieve that 9/11 was a government conspiracy, all i am saying, and i'm sure that this is what everyone else is saying, is that MAYBE there was something strange about the attacks and there are many questions that were left unanswered.
So it's not about me or YOU being able to give any account, we saw the same thing on live TV. You interpret the image on your retina differently, you make a 'different kind of sense' of what you've heard differently. You decide what you want to BELIEVE. Somehow...it all makes sense to you...and that's fine with me. What I cannot accept is you not being able to put logical arguments forward, instead of regurgitating nonsense that every crappy news report tells you. I've heard them before. Savvy?
Believe? So this is a matter of faith? You have turned this into your own religion to fill the void in your life. Since there is no evidence, or a possible way to prove how a building could be demolished with silent invisible explosives, you will be able to discount the way people died for the rest of your life. I hope you enjoy your selfish journey.
Yes. Do you not have faith in the people that backs up your theory of what happened? Or do you doubt them/their theories? Silent invisible explosives? You're just plain pathetic! I keep telling you stop playing cards with dead people...now that's really disrespectful! MANY more innocent people have died as a consequence of retaliation to this. What about them? People have died because a few good men BELIEVED it JUST to retaliate the way they did. Millions of lives destroyed...who's selfish?
what I have is not a theory. What I use is actual EVIDENCE, Bin Laden's own words, and eyewitness accounts of my own ( and MANY others).
If you are going to discredit the way that people DIED in those horrible attacks, you'd better have evidence or an explanation of your own to back it up. Otherwise, you are a scumbag with no respect for human life.
Maybe when you die, someone can say that you were killed by your own family with nothing to back it up.
"Bin Laden's own words eyewitness accounts of your own (and MANY others)" ? - wow.you just nailed it. I'm done.
Why do you insist on bringing up the fact people died? I asked you which is more horrible the millions of lives destroyed in Afghanistan, Iraq, or those who died on September 11?
It's idiotic minds like yours politicians really love. This war was made for goons like you.
I know actual EVIDENCE and CONFESSIONS are hard for you to accept.
Why do I insist on bringing up that people died? Have you forgotten what happened? Are you THAT caught up in your lame detective game that you think that the deaths should not be mentioned? You want your stupid game to continue with no guilt?
The people that died on September 11 were innocent civilians. People died in retaliation, and I'm sure there is an asshole like you that also discredits the way that THEY died.
You're not bringing any logical points to debate. Just nonsensical remarks like: "they cannot fake WMD's, but are capable of all of these other flawless executed conspiracies?"
That is completely logical. What is NOT logical is a conspiracy that has NO evidence to back it up. Why don't you offer your explanation of what happened? You'd better have some solid evidence if you are going to discredit the way that people died. I hope someone plays a lame detective game (with NO evidence) when one of your family members dies.
Please don't talk about logic when your explanation is as follows:
Osama Bin Laden confessed to something that he did not do so that he could be on the run the rest of his life. A plane near the pentagon seen by hundreds of eyewitnesses was beamed into outer space and replaced with a missile. 95% of the wreckage from the plane and the exact human remains of the flight victims were also planted. The government hit the WTC with a plane only to demolish it on camera with a super duper thermite.
Au contraire I never gave an explanation to anything. I said I have questions. Unlike you who get all your answers from a National Geographic documentary or wherever. I never pretend to have answers, how quickly you run rampant which such assumption. It takes an idiot NOT to question a building like WTC 7 going down the way it did after only receiving relatively minor damages. How did NG clear that up? Have you read the 9/11 Commission Report?
if you have no answers of your own, what are you even trying to say? All you are saying is that you have questions, and probably know less about the subject than nearly everyone.
I agree with the video... our goverment LIES.. I knew about the CIA's al - qeida... LOOK at the pictures you fools!!!!!! WE"VE BEEN PUNKED!!!! Stand up and fight for your rights before it's too late and YOU disappear too.... THE FILM IS RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since Bin Laden was wearing a gold ring, his admitting to being behind the attacks is invalid.
Forget that it was his exact voice and image.
You people are REALLY grasping now.
At 6:14 , whoever created the video actually missed that the entire point of what the fake professor said and added "al-queda = database"
I bet the next video will say that Osama Bin Laden never existed. Would you just look at the guy at 5:12? Is he homeless? This is where you get your information?
he never admitted it you fuckwit,, post a link to one video where he says "i'm heavy all behind that shit , yoooooo!!!" naw!!!!!!!! heavy nNAW !!!! you will not find one.. you will post some dipshit jock remark insulting me and my intelligence.
post the link
do it
i dare you
post iiiiiiiit!!!!!!!!
you can find him saying that 9/11 was a response to the situation in israel and palestine. millions of people have said the same thing, it soesn't mean they are behind the attacks.
Your translation is very poor, did the homeless man at 5:12 translate Bin Laden for you?
Check your sources? Non-scientific morons grasping to wild fully unconfirmed conspiracy as if it is some sort of god?
The gold ring comment is the most irrelevant piece of garbage attempt at a conspiracy that I have ever heard.
BTW, the head wear of the bum at 5:12 is similar to that of a bum in New York , while it is clear that this video was actually shot in LA. I smell a conspiracy.
step up wee man!! post a link i said ,POST A FUCKING LINK OR FUCK OFF, there is no footage of bin laden saying he did it,,
fair play the ring thing doesn't sway you.. what about the heavy fake bin laden that has appeared once who many have proved is not the real one, including oxford university who used facial mapping computers to prove scientifically that one bin laden was indeed a fake. Americans don't care what's fake because they are naturally fake.
I am not going to waste time posting the video. Search youtube and if you do your own SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH and translate what he says. you will see that he clearly takes responsibility for the attacks. You are only listening to what some crackpot BUM says on youtube. Even when you watch it, I assume you will just twist his words so that you can hang on to the only thing you have - this conspiracy.
no, you sad fuck , i have way more going on than this conspiracy,, you are talking complete shit and you know it, go fuck your self you jock-head son of a retard
wow, your response is about as intelligent as your wild conspiracy claims. Jock? Hahaha....Is it jocks that use evidence as a base, or is it scientists? Please, move on to something else in life, you will NEVER prove ANY of this.
if the american government can do this to its own people and get away with it,then what next? nuclear war perhaps? followed by more lies,cover ups etc...
Yes babeebee of course they did.After all,the US brought in to the United States after WW11 over 1500 Nazi war criminals.Nazi scientists,etc. One of which started up NASA and another,the CIA in an operation called"Operation Paperclip". Nazism did not die with Hitler,it simply changed locales.The Jews in America were a hair's breath away from the same fate as those in Germany during the war.Prescott Bush was in on a plot to assassinate Roosevelt and take over the WH.Google:Gen.Smedley Butler
exactly. USA does not at all have a real enemy threat. the only true enemy america government has is its people thinking and questioning. america and the united nations is the base for brining about the new world order. hitler mentioned new world order and so does the american government. their trying to make this new world order something along the lines of what hitler envisioned.
SocalDNM something doesn't add up. I still believe our government & world leaders are all tied into something bigger then you & I. We're just puppets...lol!!!!!!!!
Tell me what the fuck an italian actor, ex girlfriend and a journalist know? This is funny we are listening to people that are talking out of their ass. They need to Show proof. I dont care what they say.
those are not the only people that get interviewed throughout this interview you fucking idiot!! there are many more credible people being interviewed throughout you fucking moron
What you dont understand is that these are all conpiracy nuts, so anything they say will support their theories. The only thing to put all these arguing back and forth to rest, is to show us the hijackers ALIVE. I dont think they are alive, but these assholes want you to believe they are and that no hijacking ever took place.
im like u man but u gota think, how the F**K can the police find a "hijakers" wallet laying on the ground threw all that fire and debri and sht. thats a lie and if theyr lieing about that who knows what else. and as far being alive the fbi say Al nami is still alive but its suposidly due to the real terrist stealin his wallet..cumon now. so they stole all those wallets..
man i thought like u until i actualy thought, "some of this shit the media and news say doesnt make sense.." i mean how the hell can a wallet survive all that and its coincidently hapend to be from a "hijaker" or why are all those so caled terrorist still alive and well
the translations on this video could be wrong just like the bin laden videos apperently are... just sayin
amadeo177 2 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago
Osama had almost notthing to do with 9/11, they got the guy who planned it sitting in a jail now. why dont we talk about him.
KONSMITH 5 months ago
keep pressing 5
thetitanicisdead 5 months ago
im moving to canada.
Phenom7896 8 months ago
from 8:45 to the end of the video i need sources and official documents to back this up.
any help is greatly appreciated.
FeelGoodinc91 9 months ago
Al-Qaeda should have a u after the Q. Proof it's all made up.
KellieSmunt 10 months ago 9
@KellieSmunt Haha No, it's only proof that he cant spell ;)~
DCTHEOFFICIALHITMAN 4 months ago
We are so concerned about the seen/aware, but the unseen/unaware effects us the most.
No? Then we ALL saw this coming, didn't we?
This series discusses/shows many "things". One "thing" it does not show is how close the "destruction" looks a lot like the Hutchison Effect and cold fusion reactions/effects. Again, similar-to but not exactly-like sticking Manhattan in a dysfunctional microwave-oven and waiting for it to "ding". Oh that's right, it did "ding". Oh it didn't "ding"? Nice Ground Zero.
ZomboneNecros 10 months ago
The Kings of Saudi Arabia had to know What what taking place. Is this why Osama was never caught? ...this has huge implications. 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq. WHO WAS THAT SAUDI MILLIONAIRE THAT OFFERED THEN MAYOR GUILLIANI THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AFTER 9/11? WAS THE WHOLE THING ORCHESTRATED BY THE KINGS IN SAUDI ARABIA AND BUSH AND HIS NEOCONS?
Born2Flesh 11 months ago
i know who did it bush and chani
TheMartinez08 11 months ago 2
@TheMartinez08 finally someone understands god bless you man
benjyy121 9 months ago
The United States and in turn with their many many minions, our planet is governed by THE CRIMINALLY INSANE.....ASK YOURSELF LOGICAL QUESTIONS.....WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU, YOUR FAMILY....FOR ALL HUMANITY? Its SICK DEMONIC & BIBLICAL! For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.......SHOUT IT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS AMERICA & PREPARE!
OurLordLennon 11 months ago
i think this is better than loose change
KeshaIsHot808 1 year ago
see all planned out by bush
houstone29 1 year ago
@houstone29 MONEY+OIL=BUSH <<< that explains everything , $911 was a BIG MONEY making deal , just that simple
PARAPOUNARI 1 year ago
@PARAPOUNARI yeah that asshole the cia might of planned this shit
houstone29 1 year ago
@houstone29 Have u ever seen 2 towers collapse so SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH?? they both came down the same way , EXACTLY, U couldnt do it that way if u even planned IT /or could u ?? if u have it controlled, ALSO can a TINY little 757 plane SNEAK through to hit the Pentagon ??? and NOT be any video of it?? the most secure building in the country?? just ask yourself LOGICAL questions
PARAPOUNARI 1 year ago
So if this really was conspired and manipulated by the U.S. Government. This just proves how fucked up this world is. All of them lives lost in the "war" in the middle east was all for nothing. Simply nothing and just senseless.
Scene68 1 year ago
@jmpriestly I've noticed how dangerous it is for truth seekers to point out the guilt of the real culprits. David Ray Griffin ,Jim Fetzer, Barrie Zwicker, Richard Gage, Steven Jones, Webster Tarpley, Jesse Ventura etc. all moving from safehouse to safehouse as they evade the hit squads who monitor their every move as they go about their clandestine book publishing and lecture tours and guest spots on TV and radio shows, telling people how dangerous it is to seek the truth.
cwlldoran 1 year ago
I admire this documentary, but I wish it would have covered Flight 93.
artvandelay0 1 year ago
George Orwell must be pissing himself laughing in heaven.
Sdea1903 1 year ago 2
My best friend looks like Bin Laden.... maybe I can get him a job at the cia...?
gringodeltoro1 1 year ago 8
i think bin liner made some video's taking the piss out of the american goverment and how they tried to blame him.yes he probably did threaten the u.s wouldnt you then they got pissed and started a fake war to steal all the oil and to brain wash people so they forgot about 9-11 and dubed different translations on bin liners tapes to say yes i did the 9-11 stuff .....pretty sloppy if you ask me
britdemo 1 year ago
This was a setup and what a shitty job the US government did? Leave it to the government to screw shit up!!!!!!
doughauf 1 year ago
So how do we incorruptible people of this world bring the real culprits to justice?
goosesgreen 1 year ago 7
@goosesgreen We don't. That is just how it is.
doughauf 1 year ago
@goosesgreen not in out lifetime atleast.
mugiwara123456789 1 year ago
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goosesgreen 1 year ago
I always thought the Bin Laden photos were a little off, he could have colored his beard easily, but the nose and facial structure is different.
mustwinder 1 year ago 3
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natureboy84 1 year ago
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easyrhinotuber 1 year ago
OMFG.... that means if Al-Queda isn't real....
The term terrorist/terrorism cannot mean what it means, because that term was never used with out :bin Laden or suicide bomber or even islam attached to it.... WOW this is very mind boggling, I'm completely disgusted that these jack-offs are still getting away with treason and mass murder...
How do we stop them and gain back or human independence????
FelicityGemini 1 year ago 2
@FelicityGemini
Yeah, muslim people living in EU and US have been getting a lot of shit thanks to the constant media propaganda saying TERRORISTS WAR ON TERROR ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM BOMBERS 9/11 TERRORIST TERROR WAR ON MUSLIM TERROR TERORRRISTS
EliteHorde 1 year ago 39
@EliteHorde . Yeah there brainwashing attempts gets very old.
JamJHolmes 1 year ago
i bet the american govrernment has flagged this video, too bad im australian. DEMOCRACY IS MIND CONTROL
aznofwar 1 year ago
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@aznofwar Well, at least most of us Americans aren't stupid anymore. Thank Christ for that. Here's the deal. The US Government REALLY FUCKED THEMSELVES ON 9/11! If there is another huge attack on US soil, how many people NOW would actually believe that it came from Islamic terrorists? Not me! That's for sure. How fucking stupid could our government be thinking that a REAL investigation would not be a demand eventually? The US Gov't should be scared of us all. We are fighting back!
natureboy84 1 year ago
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The video "connect the dots" are putting all sorts of disinformation out there. They won't let anyone post comments regarding the no plane theory. This is a objective subject that none of us have all the answers to. Keep ears open and listen to all.
HasterDavid 1 year ago
The AMERICAN people want REVENGE against CIA CRIMINALZ for killing 3000 using THERMATE on 911 and mailing ANTHRAX to Senators Daschle to pass the UNPATRIOTIC BILL .
The reason they staged such an elaborate HOAX is to encircle CHINA, and RUSSIA for KHAZARIA and Pakistani NUCLEAR weapons. The civilizational ally is INDIA .. a double agent nation.
The YANK bustards will only destroy USA in the end and CHINA will RISE.
We know 911 = INSIDER JOB to suppress other races under the WHITE ANGLO
ibnekhaldoun 2 years ago
thermate? Wasn't it thermite, or super duper thermite? Was that disproven also? Oh yeah, so was thermate. I believe the retards now point to super nano thermate, since it is made up and cannot be disproven.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
oh my fucking shit. we are fucked. fuck.
sabbathkyuss 2 years ago
-- Bin Laden was supported and funded by USA ,
in Afganistan ,
USA funded terrorists in Bosnia and Kosovo ,
9/11 inside job./
aviomaster 2 years ago
they cannot fake WMD's, but are capable of all of these other flawless executed conspiracies? They can make miraculous invisible silent explosives (that happen to coincide with a plane crashing into a building), but cannot fake a serial number? They could easily fake / steal / lie about having weapons if they had the level of sophistication that you are claiming. Of course there has been corruption and poor judgments by the government, the point is you are taking it WAYYY too far.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
johnny mac is a dipshit
noklarok 2 years ago 3
I should have just taken your word and ignore it. Somehow I thought it was actually gonna make some sense somewhere in it's rantings. There are millions like it, unfortunately.
:-/
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
Dear Dumbass:
The claim that a bin laden photo is fake because he has gray hair in a later photo is one of the funniest additions to this myth that I have seen. It then mentions that his ring is gold, and he is not allowed to wear gold. Shame on him! When has he been known for following rules? Also, no mention of why any of these claims make sense or matter.
This is ALL OVER THE PLACE, contradicts itself, and spits out one wild claim after another without ever getting to a central thesis.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
JohnnyMac496 why are you lying to people here and God?
revealerofsecrets940 2 years ago
Reveal-
So, you believe in a magic human being in the sky.. but not that a huge commercial jet collapsed a building in front of millions of witnesses?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
i may never be able to prove this.
in regard to your comment about bin laden, there is footage that was used by US/world media that has been scientifically proved NOT to fit the facial structures of the "other" bin laden.
i would post the link but it looks like you, yourself, have not spent much effort researching this topic deeply enough.
you have an incredibly bias outlook, which i did not have when i started researching this years ago.
goodbye johnny dipshit
noklarok 2 years ago
What was the significance of the video that YOU claim is not Bin Laden without evidence? Could he have not wanted to reveal his location and die?
Could a face change over the course of years, esp if you have millions of dollars and are hiding? Who "proved" that is wasn't him BTW? You will believe a video that you are looking at is NOT Bin Laden, but believe all kinds of other wild claims without evidence? What about the audio, was it also a guy that sounded exactly like him?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
i respect that you are taking this seriously , unlike alot of people in this debate.
bare with me and i will hook you up with some evidence...
the footage i refer to is quite famous, it is not underground. it was broadcast widely on television networks.
it shows him with a shorter, fatter nose and a shorter face.
in my mind there is no way in hell this is the same person, as a portrait painter i was about to set out proving this but i found it had already been done by oxford uni + others
noklarok 2 years ago
if it is not him, and just someone that looks remarkably like him... I still don't see a ton of significance. Bin Laden himself has many reasons to be deceptive in videos, including the security of his own life.
I'm not sure why would they attempt to frame a guy that they would not be able to catch. Either they are highly sophisticated and capable of pulling this off, or they aren't. It can't be both.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
"i'm not sure why they would attempt to frame a guy that they would not be able to catch"
have you not read "1984"?
the best way to control a nation would be to invent an enemy or "them" that you can wage CONTINUOUS war against. the more intangible the better.
also i whole-heartedly disagree that those responsible would have to be highly sophisticated.
they just have to rely on the stupidity of the masses.
so many people point blank refuse to believe that a gov. would do that. they so would.
noklarok 2 years ago
Why didn't they also plant or lie about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq if they are capable of a conspiracy on this scale?
Face it, you would never even admit there was a plane that hit the world trade center if it was not on video and witnessed by millions. It is good to have questions and do SCIENTIFIC research, but you simply are going WAY to far with this.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
they cannot fake WMDs as every nuke has specific codes detailing where components were made,,
" i would never admit the planes hit" don't be so fucking assumptive .. that is not my style,, it is obvious that planes did hit.
but your attampts at logical argument are so weak and frustrating that i'm cutting you loose.
they DID lie about weapons,, BUSH said Nigeria had tipped them off ==LIE
tony blair and alisdair campbell doctored documents and admit this.. "sexed up" scandal in UK
goodbye
noklarok 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496
Amazing you find this conspiracy so grand. It's the most simplest of conspiracies, really. Especially considering the stronghold the conspirators has on the minds of the masses. People trust their agents (the conventional media houses). When you think about it....this entire conspiracy was bought from the media. Everything on live TV, from the impact of the planes on the towers to the infamous "shock and awe".
Most sheeple do believe their lying eyes.
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
it is highly grand, thousands and thousands of people would have to be involved and also remain silent. I will never except that super duper thermite brought a building down, or that silent invisible explosives are possible. Like I said, if they had anywhere NEAR that type of sophistication, they wouldn't have been caught not having found WMDS.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
How many thousands of people would it really take? The grandest of schemes are those planned by very few and brought to fruition by many, the 'incognisant accordance'; so to speak. We see this around us everyday; in law, finance and economics, certain religious sects. The 'best' lies are the grandest of them. Whether you want to believe/disbelieve that a compound that is a common agent in demolition charges ['thermate'] was used to take down those buildings is up to you.
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
thermite causes a huge fireball an little damage to steel beams. There was no fireball. THOUSANDS would have to be involved to setup a demolition, and it would take MONTHS.
Bin Laden also took credit for the attacks. I'm sure any REAL evidence you will just claim is part of the conspiracy. What about the human remains at the pentagon (from the flight). Were those planted? Stop playing a lame detective game with NO evidence where people's lives are involved. Have some respect.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Bin Laden took credit does it for you? You know how many different and adversary terrorist groups took credit for the London bombings? MI5 was bombarded with calls that it was IRA, PLO, but the most salacious claim for them was, of course, the CI...um umm al qaeda. Don't play that people's lives nonsense. There are people who've been in those building, have friends and family who died in there who are NOT buying this bullshit story. Sure you can explain WTC7 too!?!....about time someone does.
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
I'm just a little annoyed at your simple-mindedness. Thousands of people to setup a demolition job? Have you ever seen a demolition team at work??? Do you expect that there'd be a news coverage on CNN to tell you that the demolition team has commenced work in WTC towers? People who worked in these buildings gave witness of "strange" works taking place for weeks! Can you respect them?
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
a demolition on this scale would take MONTHS, and hundreds of workers, and this is a part of the thousands of people that would have to remain silent. Why would they demolish it on TV after hitting it with a plane? Why not demolish it in the first place if you are going to blame terrorists?
Watch the national geographic special, where the top "truthers" are given a chance and fail in the worst way possible. You will see why a silent invisible explosion is not possible.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Well, I'm sure glad you happened to be watching National Geographic for them to explain to you that a "silent explosion" was not possible. Now you know as much as most 5 year olds. You seem to be an expert on conspiracy and how much conspirators it takes to take down a couple buildings. It's real easy to manipulate minds like you...seeing it on National Geographic and that does it for you? Do you take time to even Google some unclassified CIA files sometime?
Mental ineptitude=physical servitude
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
Exactly, even a 5 year old knows that a silent invisible explosion is not possible.
It is not just that one item that was debunked, it was nearly every piece of lame unconfirmed bullshit that you are using as part of your lame detective game. Top truthers were given a chance, and failed miserably. I suppose that you now consider the truthers that made fools of themselves in the presence of scientific evidence part of the conspiracy.
You still have not given your own account of what happened.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
I'm supposed to give an account of what happened? You're just pathetic. I'm simply claiming there are seeming anomalies (NOT claiming anything conclusively) and you want me to explain.
I'm asking YOU who seemingly have the answers, one question...what brought down WTC7? It came down on live TV...but since the Commission didn't see it fit to explain that in their report, I'm proposing that was a magic trick, maybe David Blaine's doing. Can you at least oppose that with something credible?
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
I see that you still refuse to offer your own account of what happened - mainly because you have absolutely nothing logical to offer.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
I can't make myself anymore explicable. I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW! NEVER DID ANYWHERE IN MY ARGUMENTS. It is you; oh wise, one that is stating what could never happen, what's possible and what's not. It is you I still charge to explain WTC7 imploding in on itself. I admit it's unfair to be asking that of you...in effect that's just rhetorical. So my theory still stands. WTC7 was taking down by a stage magic - just refute that & quit with the pseudo-sentimental scat!
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
Why are you obsessing over WTC7? It has nothing to do with any of the deaths on 9/11. What are you trying to say happened to it?
Has it become your life goal to prove that WTC7 was demolished with a silent invisible explosive? Is this the building that you focus on because you know that discrediting the way people died in the main WTC is pathetic and without evidence?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
You're laughable, pathetic and woefully manipulative. You base your arguments around platitudes and assumptions. What life goals do you keep referring to? I'm actually just having fun pointing out to you how simple-minded you are. You swallow anything fed to you. You don't know how to think for yourself, disprove logic, recognise and admit to an anomaly. Why is it hard to say you DON'T KNOW!?!... The 9/11 Commission Report finds WTC7 an anomaly, why can't you? For you it's a matter of faith.
MachoKokoa 2 years ago 3
Bin Laden's confession is not an assumption, it is the end of your stupid game which you cannot accept.
What are you trying to say happened? Are you still babbling on about conspiracy without giving any actual explanation of your own? Great way to discredit the way that people died. Get a life.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Once again you bring up WTC7, which you now say is an anomaly. Even if it was not completely clear to a 4 year old what happened to the building, what does WTC7 as an "anomaly" prove?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
dude, seriously, except defeat man. machokokoa has schooled you on every point. just let it go, he's far brighter and you keep reitterating the same points over and over. no one here has actually said that the US and possibly UK governments WERE behind the attacks but have simply pointed out some annomolies that have presented themselves that need questioning! please just stop. for you're own sake, you'll give yourself a tuma or something.
m9davies 2 years ago
ok "dude"
If there are small anomalies with WTC , fine. Nobody died in the building. An anomaly is different that saying that super duper thermite brought down a building, or that there is an impostor that looks and sounds exactly like osama bin laden confessing. That is called being retarded.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
i mean 'anomaly' in the loosest sense you tard. i only said it because if i said 'suspicious evidence' you would have probably bombed my country being the gun toting, flag waving, red neck, hick that you are. americans are a fine race of people, but it's keyboard warriors like you that drag the average down.
m9davies 2 years ago
I do not own a gun or a flag, and I am not a hick. You however like to ask questions about the way people died having no evidence to back up what you say.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
alright, how about this then. there were several explosions that were heard at the bottom of the the two towers. explosions seen, that happened no where near the crash site. the building fell just like a building that had been demolished on purpose. there was residue of advanced explosives left on the steel found at the bottom of the tower. the pentagon refused to release any images of the plane crashing into it, apart from a 5 frame caption that never clearly shows the plane.
m9davies 2 years ago
the plane wreckage at the pentagon was few and far between, the hole in the side of the building was no where near big enough to fit that of a boeing 757, it was big enough however to fit that of an old military plane that was being grounded later that year along with the wreckage found. flight 93 seemingly disintergrated upon impact an incident that had never occured in the whole of aviation crash history. the wreckage found barely made up the the size of a small cesner, let alone a massive jet
m9davies 2 years ago
what about the verified flight path and video of the plane at the pentagon which you seem to think looks like a missile. 95% of the wreckage was recovered, as well as human remains which you probably will say were planted inside a missile. What about the eyewitness accounts?
were the poles that the plane took down in DC on the way to the pentagon a controlled demolition with super duper thermite? Face it, you'd never admit that a plane had hit WTC either if there wasn't hundreds of videos.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496 Can you suck my balls already and shut that stupid mouth of yours? And no, I'm not being an internet bully, I tell this to each and every blind fuck out there on their face. Open your stupid eyes!
bluejester28 2 years ago
my eyes are wide open, I saw the planes hit the buildings with my own eyes. I saw bin laden confess. Keep your gay lame detective game going if you want, you will NEVER prove ANY of it.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
i know dont be chinesee open yur eyes
MrMultiHelp 2 years ago
You are telling ME to open my eyes when you discredit every FACT, EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT, and piece of EVIDENCE. Give up your lame detective game, loser.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
the steel from the twin towers wreckage wasn't taken for phorensic analysis but was sold straight away to the lowest bidder, a criminal offence under international terrorism law. jet fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to even weaken reinforced steel and concrete let alone cause it to collapse. the fires were clearly starved of oxygen as the smoke was thick and black and the fire dark orange. this is just some of the evidence that SUGGESTS that 9/11 was a government conspiracy.
m9davies 2 years ago 51
jet fuel can and will weaken steel and this has been proven. not to mention you are forgetting that these towers were also struck by a huge airline jet at 500 mph which tends to leave a hole in the building.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
look, i think we are going to have to agree to disagree. we're both turning into super lame keyboard warriors over a subject matter which neither of us has any expertise. you are free to believe that it was nothing more than an aggressive attack by a muslim fundamentalist organisation and i am free to believe that MAYBE the US government had something to do with it. which is the point i was trying to labour all along, but of course you were too thick skinned to see that.
m9davies 2 years ago
I don't recall you saying how this all could be tied to the government. Anyway, I agree. Let's end this.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
A steel structured building has NEVER collapsed due to fire. In 2004 a steel structured building in Venezuela was engulfed in flames covering 26 of its 56 floors, this burned for 18hrrs, and the building remained intact. In 2000 a similar building in Spain burned completely for 20hrs and did not collapse.
The head designer of the WTC stated that the towers were designed to WITHSTAND the impact and resulting damage of one or MORE airliners.
Does nobody listen to what the experts say anymore?
VermilionUK 2 years ago
Your argument is completely invalid. The building you are talking about was not also hit by a commercial jet at 500 mph. If you are going to try to sound like a scientist, at least compare similar events.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496
No, the report on 911 tells us that the WTC collapsed due to the plane impacts, but more importantly due to the resulting fires. That's why I included what the designer of the WTC had said: that the towers were designed to WITHSTAND the impact of one or more airliners and the resulting damage.
It's not a case of trying to sound like a scientist - it's a case of trying to explain what the experts are saying.
They're experts for a reason: they know what they're talking about.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
It does not matter what it was DESIGNED to do. It clearly failed, and once again the events are not similar. I could DESIGN something to do whatever I want, that doesn't mean it will work. That is not evidence.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
You're missing the point. Let me explain..
Here's the important factor:
The report states the PRIMARY reason behind the collapse was FIRE.
However
1. No steel structured building has EVER collapse due to FIRE. And yet, within the space of 24hrs, THREE steel structured buildings collapse within metre of each other, apparently, due to FIRE.
2. The WTC was designed to WITHSTAND the impact and resulting FIRE of one or MORE jet airliners
Do you see what the experts have been getting at now?
VermilionUK 2 years ago
There was a huge plane that hit the building in addition to jet fuel. Those are givens to anyone that saw the attack. Ket fuel also has been proven in experiment to weaken steel.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Refined Kerosene doesn't burn at a high temperature, or else it would melt the inside of the Jet engines.
Kerosene typically has a max temperature of about 900'C. To melt steel the temperature must be around 1300'C to 2000'C depending on the alloy.
Considering the design of the WTC was made for the sole purpose of withstanding a plane crash and the resulting fire (which would include Jet-fuel), then we are still left with the fact that NO building should have collapsed, let alone THREE
VermilionUK 2 years ago
the fire not have to melt the steel, just weaken it (which it clearly did)
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496
Yeah, weaken it. But that would take days, not 7 hours.
Like I've already stated, there's been steel structured buildings engulfed in flames of similar temperatures that have burned for 24hrs and not weakened in structure at all.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
Other fires did not have the aid of jet fuel and a huge whole in the building / explosion though. You are not comparing like events.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496
I used it as an example to show that temperatures of fire do not weaken steel that much in such a short period of time.
People (like you) are told that because jet fuel was in the fire that it suddenly becomes some immense inferno that can collapse steel building in 7hrs.
However the basic fact is that it does not burn at a high enough temperature to weaken steel in such a short period of time.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
What you are saying is fact is NOT fact. A recent experiment by national geographic showed that the steel weakened under similar conditions in a very short period of time.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
They are called facts for a reason
Anyway you're forgetting that the experiment cannot possibly have been under "similar" conditions or else it would have not had those results.
Here's why:
1) If the temp was so high (1300-2000'C to weaken the steel enough) then why is there a picture of a woman stood in the impact hole?
2) Eye-witness accounts do not suggest the heat was that intense. Many speak of heat for 30 seconds or so, and some even speak of feeling the cool air from the impact hole.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
There's been a computerised demonstration of 9/11 carried out. But as this documentary (and many other people involved) points out, the variables were exaggerated far beyond the conditions of the day.
I am by no means suggesting 9/11was an "inside job" - but there are just too many things that seem so out of place, so I just can't take the official story at face value.
Of course, 2 planes hit the WTC, but it should not have collapsed in that manner. Yes, "shit happens", but not like that.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
You answer your own question in this one. There was cool air coming through the hole (or simply air), and the woman needed to breathe. Of course that air would be cooler than inside. I do not know how long into the fire the woman was there ( i doubt long) , but the surrounding temp (while still unbearable) would not instantly be as hot as the fire itself. The woman sadly did not survive, nor did some of the steel. If the plane and fire didnt bring it down, what did?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
I see your point, however when we look at that photo, and other photos from different angles, there is no evidence of a fire capable of melting the steel.
Compare the photo's of the WTC to photos of other fires burning in a steel buildings and you'll see that the fires look dissimilar.
"If the plane and fire didnt bring it down, what did?"
I don't know - unlike many others I won't claim it was GWB who set it up, but from what I've seen/heard/read, I know that we haven't heard the full story.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
A fire does not have to look special to bend steel, there was plenty of fire visible. You give the US government too much credit as an ultra sophisticated giant. Really, they were simply attacked and defeated that day. A government as sophisticated as you are claiming would probably just have planted WMD's in Iraq. Instead, they made a foolish public mistake. They are either sophisticated or they aren't. It can't be both.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
"A fire does not have to look special to bend steel"
Oh but it does. Check out the pics from that Spanish fire in 2000 - or any other fire in a steel building. The flames will be a brighter colour - almost orange.
Compare it to the WTC and you can hardly see the flames - its just smoke. What does this tell us?
a) The fire was not intense
b) It was not spreading fast
c) It was smouldering, and therefore not capable of damaging the steel enough.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
I don't know what to tell you on this, other than it DID collapse enough floors to cause the single floors below it to collapse one by one. If you have a more logical explanation of what happened, fine. It is also fact that there is no such thing as a silent invisible explosive or demolition.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
"If you have a more logical explanation of what happened, fine"
Your take:
Planes hit the WTC, which was designed to withstand the impact - then it collapses within 7hrs.
The main cause of the collapse was fire - despite the fact that no steel structured building has ever collapsed due to fire, but 3 collapse on one day, within metres of each other.
My take:
I don't know what caused it to collapse - but I don't think it wasn't fire, as the fire wasn't strong enough
Which is more logical?
VermilionUK 2 years ago
Mine is more logical, since you are simply saying you don't have a clue what happened. There is not a logical explanation for another reason that it could have collapsed. There is not such thing as a silent invisible explosive.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Also, once again you are not comparing like events. You omit that the building was also struck by a commercial airline jet when you say "no steel structure has ever collapsed due to fire"
Here is another statement for you:
Every recent building that has been struck by a commercial airline jet has collapsed.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Right, two planes hit the WTC. However the WTC survived the impact and returned to a stable state.
But we are told the collapse was due to fire, not the planes, but it has already been shown that the fire was not intense enough to cause a collapse so fast (7hrs after).
Therefore you're statement of:
"Every recent building that has been struck by a commercial airline jet has collapsed "..
is a moot point. Especially when we consider one of the main features was to resist a jet impact.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
Hmmm..... the tower should have made it (but didn't). It does not matter what it is "designed" to do! I could design something to do whatever I want, that doesn't mean that it will work. Even if it was "designed" to "withstand" the jet ..........(that hadnt been invented yet) , still irrelavent! It failed!
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
"Even if it was "designed" to "withstand" the jet ..........(that hadnt been invented yet)"
That's not true, commercial airlines were common by the 1950s and the first jet airliner, the 707 was introduced in 1959. The WTC main tower was not finished until 1972.
"still irrelavent! It failed! "
For christ sake - the towers did their job - they withstood the impact of the planes. The fire is what is said to have collpased them. Look at the fires - they're not intense enought to melt steel.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
Ok, so it withstood the impact INITIALLY. What are you saying happened next?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
You've constantly said that you don't know what happened, yet at the same time act like you are some sort of authority on the matter. You know less about the subject than nearly anyone.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
You should get your facts correct before posting a stupid comment that jets were not invented before construction of the twin towers. Jet engine construction has been around since the late 40,s, commercial jet engine flight started in the early 50,s. You are over 20 years out, you sir are an idiot.
tranquility321 2 years ago
First off, I never said that jets hadn't been invented yet, that was your own retarded misinterpretation. Additionally, the building was not made to withstand a MODERN COMMERCIAL AIRLINE jet.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Misinterpretation?? You docile clown, you don't even know what you are writing do you. Read what you typed you imbecilic incoherent typing moron. Your sentence structure and typing skills could be easily misinterpreted for a monkey's trying to act intelligent and passing as legible. The difference between modern commercial jets to those of the 60,s and 70,s is mostly cosmetic. You are an idiot who has no clue what you are typing, just another retard with a chronic moronic opinion on u-tube vids.
tranquility321 2 years ago
Wrong yet again, which is no surprise. Tell me how YOU think the building collapsed. LOL
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Look buddie i have no desire or intentions to get into a debate about 7/11. Everyone has their own opinions and they are welcome to them. I am not American, so that topic would not be high on my agenda to get into a discussion on you-tube like it would be to maybe most American's. So on that note i bid you good day sir.
tranquility321 2 years ago
Thanks for the good day wish. It was actually in September though, just for the record.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Well pointed out, i'm sure 7/11's are a chain of convenience stores. I will not be discussing these either. Ciao.
tranquility321 2 years ago
@JohnnyMac496 why are you debating the wtc demolition on this video? the subject isnt even on the demolitions of the towers.
Mr420woo 1 year ago
You said "Even if it was "designed" to "withstand" the jet ..........(that hadnt been invented yet)"
From that I gathered you were referring to Jets, if not Jets, what were you referring to had not been invented yet?
And on what basis do you conclude I "know less about the subject than nearly anyone"?
All I've stated is that I don't know what caused the collapse, because from closer analysis of the towers and their collapse - it becomes clear that fire/impacts were not the cause.
VermilionUK 2 years ago
You know less about the subject than nearly anyone because you state that you don't know what happened. How has it become "clear" that fire/impacts were not the cause when you have no idea what the cause was?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Indeed, I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't - and from what I've read/seen/heard, it wasn't a fire.
Anyway, could you answer my question about your claim that Jets were not invented before the WTC - or clarify what you meant?
VermilionUK 2 years ago
The boeing 707 was invented at the time, it was similar to today's 767
Barnakos 1 year ago
Yup, I stated that earlier in response to JohnnyMac496
VermilionUK 1 year ago
@m9davies check out this site. wont let me post the link google "9-11 Evidence Locked Away in Hangar 17 at JFK Airport?"
aramhampson 1 year ago
@m9davies proves....not suggests.
TheDonster666 3 months ago
@m9davies I know there are still people in the world who refuse to acknowledge evolution. Doesn't change the facts one bit.
TheDonster666 3 months ago
like i said, i neither believe or disbelieve that 9/11 was a government conspiracy, all i am saying, and i'm sure that this is what everyone else is saying, is that MAYBE there was something strange about the attacks and there are many questions that were left unanswered.
m9davies 2 years ago
well, you have to look at it logically and realize that there is overwhelming evidence that a plane struck the pentagon.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Most of us don't use the word 'maybe'.there is more than enough evidence for a criminal case.
stratocaster539 2 years ago
If you don't have your own explanation of what happened, or ANY evidence, you'd better not be discrediting the way that people died.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
So it's not about me or YOU being able to give any account, we saw the same thing on live TV. You interpret the image on your retina differently, you make a 'different kind of sense' of what you've heard differently. You decide what you want to BELIEVE. Somehow...it all makes sense to you...and that's fine with me. What I cannot accept is you not being able to put logical arguments forward, instead of regurgitating nonsense that every crappy news report tells you. I've heard them before. Savvy?
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
Believe? So this is a matter of faith? You have turned this into your own religion to fill the void in your life. Since there is no evidence, or a possible way to prove how a building could be demolished with silent invisible explosives, you will be able to discount the way people died for the rest of your life. I hope you enjoy your selfish journey.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Yes. Do you not have faith in the people that backs up your theory of what happened? Or do you doubt them/their theories? Silent invisible explosives? You're just plain pathetic! I keep telling you stop playing cards with dead people...now that's really disrespectful! MANY more innocent people have died as a consequence of retaliation to this. What about them? People have died because a few good men BELIEVED it JUST to retaliate the way they did. Millions of lives destroyed...who's selfish?
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
what I have is not a theory. What I use is actual EVIDENCE, Bin Laden's own words, and eyewitness accounts of my own ( and MANY others).
If you are going to discredit the way that people DIED in those horrible attacks, you'd better have evidence or an explanation of your own to back it up. Otherwise, you are a scumbag with no respect for human life.
Maybe when you die, someone can say that you were killed by your own family with nothing to back it up.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
You don't have a theory? Okay.
"Bin Laden's own words eyewitness accounts of your own (and MANY others)" ? - wow.you just nailed it. I'm done.
Why do you insist on bringing up the fact people died? I asked you which is more horrible the millions of lives destroyed in Afghanistan, Iraq, or those who died on September 11?
It's idiotic minds like yours politicians really love. This war was made for goons like you.
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
I know actual EVIDENCE and CONFESSIONS are hard for you to accept.
Why do I insist on bringing up that people died? Have you forgotten what happened? Are you THAT caught up in your lame detective game that you think that the deaths should not be mentioned? You want your stupid game to continue with no guilt?
The people that died on September 11 were innocent civilians. People died in retaliation, and I'm sure there is an asshole like you that also discredits the way that THEY died.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
You're not bringing any logical points to debate. Just nonsensical remarks like: "they cannot fake WMD's, but are capable of all of these other flawless executed conspiracies?"
How puerile!!!!
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
That is completely logical. What is NOT logical is a conspiracy that has NO evidence to back it up. Why don't you offer your explanation of what happened? You'd better have some solid evidence if you are going to discredit the way that people died. I hope someone plays a lame detective game (with NO evidence) when one of your family members dies.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Please don't talk about logic when your explanation is as follows:
Osama Bin Laden confessed to something that he did not do so that he could be on the run the rest of his life. A plane near the pentagon seen by hundreds of eyewitnesses was beamed into outer space and replaced with a missile. 95% of the wreckage from the plane and the exact human remains of the flight victims were also planted. The government hit the WTC with a plane only to demolish it on camera with a super duper thermite.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
Au contraire I never gave an explanation to anything. I said I have questions. Unlike you who get all your answers from a National Geographic documentary or wherever. I never pretend to have answers, how quickly you run rampant which such assumption. It takes an idiot NOT to question a building like WTC 7 going down the way it did after only receiving relatively minor damages. How did NG clear that up? Have you read the 9/11 Commission Report?
MachoKokoa 2 years ago
if you have no answers of your own, what are you even trying to say? All you are saying is that you have questions, and probably know less about the subject than nearly everyone.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
I agree with the video... our goverment LIES.. I knew about the CIA's al - qeida... LOOK at the pictures you fools!!!!!! WE"VE BEEN PUNKED!!!! Stand up and fight for your rights before it's too late and YOU disappear too.... THE FILM IS RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
elizdellapiana 2 years ago
Since Bin Laden was wearing a gold ring, his admitting to being behind the attacks is invalid.
Forget that it was his exact voice and image.
You people are REALLY grasping now.
At 6:14 , whoever created the video actually missed that the entire point of what the fake professor said and added "al-queda = database"
I bet the next video will say that Osama Bin Laden never existed. Would you just look at the guy at 5:12? Is he homeless? This is where you get your information?
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
he never admitted it you fuckwit,, post a link to one video where he says "i'm heavy all behind that shit , yoooooo!!!" naw!!!!!!!! heavy nNAW !!!! you will not find one.. you will post some dipshit jock remark insulting me and my intelligence.
post the link
do it
i dare you
post iiiiiiiit!!!!!!!!
you can find him saying that 9/11 was a response to the situation in israel and palestine. millions of people have said the same thing, it soesn't mean they are behind the attacks.
noklarok 2 years ago
Your translation is very poor, did the homeless man at 5:12 translate Bin Laden for you?
Check your sources? Non-scientific morons grasping to wild fully unconfirmed conspiracy as if it is some sort of god?
The gold ring comment is the most irrelevant piece of garbage attempt at a conspiracy that I have ever heard.
BTW, the head wear of the bum at 5:12 is similar to that of a bum in New York , while it is clear that this video was actually shot in LA. I smell a conspiracy.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
step up wee man!! post a link i said ,POST A FUCKING LINK OR FUCK OFF, there is no footage of bin laden saying he did it,,
fair play the ring thing doesn't sway you.. what about the heavy fake bin laden that has appeared once who many have proved is not the real one, including oxford university who used facial mapping computers to prove scientifically that one bin laden was indeed a fake. Americans don't care what's fake because they are naturally fake.
noklarok 2 years ago
I am not going to waste time posting the video. Search youtube and if you do your own SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH and translate what he says. you will see that he clearly takes responsibility for the attacks. You are only listening to what some crackpot BUM says on youtube. Even when you watch it, I assume you will just twist his words so that you can hang on to the only thing you have - this conspiracy.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
no, you sad fuck , i have way more going on than this conspiracy,, you are talking complete shit and you know it, go fuck your self you jock-head son of a retard
noklarok 2 years ago
wow, your response is about as intelligent as your wild conspiracy claims. Jock? Hahaha....Is it jocks that use evidence as a base, or is it scientists? Please, move on to something else in life, you will NEVER prove ANY of this.
JohnnyMac496 2 years ago
if the american government can do this to its own people and get away with it,then what next? nuclear war perhaps? followed by more lies,cover ups etc...
0tt0kruegar 2 years ago 2
I knew this happened but wouldn't be shocked on the level of government knowlege and what role they possibly might play !
MegaKingMoney 2 years ago
babeebee -- Exactly , USA uses Hitlers propaganda , to wage WARS ,,,
aviomaster 2 years ago
I have the answer for wtc #7.....instead of weilding the beams...they used super glue!!!
beckpod1 2 years ago
The NEOCONS applied one simple principle in their propaganda blitz and it was borrowed from the Nazis.
"The Bigger the Lie, the More the People will Believe it" - Adolf Hitler
babeebee 2 years ago 9
Yes babeebee of course they did.After all,the US brought in to the United States after WW11 over 1500 Nazi war criminals.Nazi scientists,etc. One of which started up NASA and another,the CIA in an operation called"Operation Paperclip". Nazism did not die with Hitler,it simply changed locales.The Jews in America were a hair's breath away from the same fate as those in Germany during the war.Prescott Bush was in on a plot to assassinate Roosevelt and take over the WH.Google:Gen.Smedley Butler
FREEW0RLD2012 2 years ago
CCCP dies in 1989 ,,, USA does not have an enemy ,, WHAT to do , create an enemy , and start conquering the world ...
aviomaster 2 years ago 5
exactly. USA does not at all have a real enemy threat. the only true enemy america government has is its people thinking and questioning. america and the united nations is the base for brining about the new world order. hitler mentioned new world order and so does the american government. their trying to make this new world order something along the lines of what hitler envisioned.
rockandufc 2 years ago
Can someone explain WTC Building 7?
justlooknaround 2 years ago 4
SocalDNM something doesn't add up. I still believe our government & world leaders are all tied into something bigger then you & I. We're just puppets...lol!!!!!!!!
senario32 2 years ago
Holy cow, he is ranting on every page...
Its the information, not the delivery system that is being looked at here...
Al-Queda means: Data Base. thats awesome.....
CastingStonez 2 years ago
Tell me what the fuck an italian actor, ex girlfriend and a journalist know? This is funny we are listening to people that are talking out of their ass. They need to Show proof. I dont care what they say.
SocalDNM 2 years ago
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nickloks 2 years ago
those are not the only people that get interviewed throughout this interview you fucking idiot!! there are many more credible people being interviewed throughout you fucking moron
nickloks 2 years ago
What you dont understand is that these are all conpiracy nuts, so anything they say will support their theories. The only thing to put all these arguing back and forth to rest, is to show us the hijackers ALIVE. I dont think they are alive, but these assholes want you to believe they are and that no hijacking ever took place.
SocalDNM 2 years ago
im like u man but u gota think, how the F**K can the police find a "hijakers" wallet laying on the ground threw all that fire and debri and sht. thats a lie and if theyr lieing about that who knows what else. and as far being alive the fbi say Al nami is still alive but its suposidly due to the real terrist stealin his wallet..cumon now. so they stole all those wallets..
kbplaya33 2 years ago 4
What the hell is wrong with you -- all the hostility and swearing??
stevehauk 2 years ago
tell him how it is man
kbplaya33 2 years ago
man i thought like u until i actualy thought, "some of this shit the media and news say doesnt make sense.." i mean how the hell can a wallet survive all that and its coincidently hapend to be from a "hijaker" or why are all those so caled terrorist still alive and well
kbplaya33 2 years ago