Jewish and Sufi invented Worships .. Whats the difference?

[Macedon2010]

So,What is Problem There ... God is One ... Jews Worship God Too and Judaisam is Before Islam.So Connection and Simullarity is Evident ...

[Megahs2010]

There is nothing wrong, people can pray or worship the way they like. Jews are people of the book اهل الكتاب

Sufi are Muslims, so as Shi'a

[nindrianto]

Prophet Muhammad SAW also not teach about youtube and internet....:)

[TheNeokorben]

IT IS THE SAME ,SO WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL HERE,PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORSHIP OR WHAT ,I DON'T SEE YOUR POINT HERE,DID WE CAME FROM SAME ADAM AND EVE,OR OUR ADAM IS DIFFERENT THAN YOUR ADAM,DON'T WE EAT THE SAME FOOD AND LIVE ON THE SAME PLANET,CHILL OUT AND RELAX,OR LET ME THANK YOU BY POINTING THAT ALL RELIGIONS ARE OF SAME ORIGINS ACCORDING TO THIS CLIP,THANK YOU FOR THIS CLIP MAYBE WE COULD SOLVE THE MIDDLE EAST PROBLEM PEACEFULLY NOW ,IF EVERY BODY TOOK A DEEPER LOOK AT THIS VEDIO CLIP

[AaronSmileyface]

the sufis didnt take it from the jews.. if you study Maimonides a great Jewish thinker and his son actually borrowed alot of traditions of the sufis and applied it to Judaism- thus the judeo-sufi movement of -hasidism

[tootyshmooty]

go screw yourself wahabi muslim scum. you are just jealous cuz these jews know how to pray to god and experience his presence something you will never be able to achieve in your lifetime you effin ignorant vermin

[lukebccb]

No IT IS YOU.

wahabi SCUM will be the end of islam as wahabi SCUM is NOT islamic!



[AaronSmileyface]

@lukebccb and the way you are speaking is also not islamic brother

[TheNeokorben]

PART OF THE SUFI,IS THE SAME LIKE OLD JUDAISM,AND PART LIKE OLD CHRISTIANITY,WHAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE? SUFI ORDERS ARE VERY OLD FROM THE TIME OF ADAM,ALL PROPHETS WERE SUFI.

[MyKakajee]

see the vedio on u tube

currant wala molvi

[MyKakajee]

there is one vedio by the name curant wala molvi please see 

[MyKakajee]

this is not a thing to be criticize it is not valgur if one is in talking about jews that why they wave to and fro before the tempel wall one should keep in mind that same patren which is similar with this kind of recitation is being adoteped by the muslim during there recitation of quran.an if some one is n mudrisa( muslim seminary) you will not be amazed to see this for this there is very solid cultural reason behind in whole middle eastren cultures and also those cultures who has been under

[chohanking]

Motherfucker atariq3, the difference is in their belives, faith.

Small brain WAHABI / NAJDI.

Najdi the bund wajdi.

[sarni786]

@chohanking Who taught you that swear? Peer saab!

[chohanking]

@sarni786 Small brain WAHABI / NAJDI, there is big difference between them, there is nothing in your video to comment.

[sarni786]

@chohanking There maybe one similarity between jews and sufis, is that they both rock back and forth like apes! Sufi/barelwis have similarities with HINDUS! Barelwis call on the dead, so do hindus! Barelwis worship graves, hindus worship idols. Hindus say "ya vishnu, ya shiva, ya durga" barelwis say "Ya khawaja, Ya Ali, Ya data"!!! calling on others besides Allaah is Shirk! And i dont know what wahabi najdi is! FOOL!

[chohanking]

@sarni786 Wahabi / Najdi go and do JIHAD with OSAMA BIN LADEN & CIA. "this is shirk, that is shirk" you as a wahabi MUFTI starts you FATWA Factory because in WAHABISM you don't need to have certain education before you entitle to give FATWA.

Similarities between Wahabism & Jewism is that they both oppose the truth with their false allegation & criticism. What you said is similarities is actually show your knowledge about religion & you mental capability about comparing different things.

[sarni786]

@chohanking Osama bin laden is a Khariji, CIA are kuffar. Just because Salafis have more knowledge than you, you like to criticise them by saying 'they give fatwa to their accord'. This only shows that you elevate them on account of their knowledge and compare them to Muftis, but they are mere students of knowledge. Salafiyyah is the TRUTH, anything against it is Baatil. My perception of the similarities is valid because i was sufi! Its Judaism, not 'Jewism' stupid FOOL! You want to debate me?

[sarni786]

@chohanking Send me a PRIVATE email on here. Write type up your problems with Salafis, so that i can debate you!

[MDIS]

Salam aleikum / Shalom aleicha to everyone here.

In Islam , Prophet Muhammad before he passed on , forbids anyone , to worship him or his grave when he died except to offer prayers for the dead just as how one would pray for his or her parents and beloved to ease their sufferings in the grave.

My question here is that ; Why are some people Worshipping Muhammad through Dzikir and not ALLAH only? Like Christians kept on saying IN JESUS NAME , AMEN. That is idolatry and blasphemous against GOD.

[chohanking]

@MDIS Wa Aleikum

Allah S.W says to muslims to do Dzikir of Prophet Muhammad ( S.A.W.W ). In this Dzikir, muslims pray for Allah S.W to send his peace and blessing on the final Prophet Muhammad ( S.A.W.W ). Muslims only worship Allah S.W and they love and respect Prophet Muhammad ( S.A.W.W ) more than any thing else in the world.

[MDIS]

@chohanking

Many peace and blessings to you and all here,

Could you kindly provide me details , sources , information and Quranic verses to validate that statements of Allah says to muslims directly , to do Dzikir of Prophet Muhammad ( p.b.u.h ) etc. From what i feel is right and correct it would have to be that God already blessed his prophets and messengers thus it would negate us to be praying to a deity to further bless that individual. How much can one received to ensure Salvation?

[BOGZASV8MA]

Perhaps in the Ottoman empire, there were crypto jews who practiced islam superficially while they were really worshipping judaism in secret...

[cosmothechihuahuadog]

@BOGZASV8MA the ottoman empire always respected the jews and the jews adopted the sufi music because it was so beautiful that they wanted to praise adonai with it and is now called maftirim

[HateVanisher]

in Islam where do sufi fit in? i believe even the word sufi is not arabic..

from what i know,sufism is not the practice of Islam,but there are books written sufism is pratice by Al-Imam Ghazali?..anyone?

[riadhee]

u forget these were all SUFI MUSLIMS who spread ISLAM in the whole wolrd by their crystal clear CHARACTERS but not by suicidal attacks on innocent poeple , WHO U POEPLE U R ? WHAT IS UR ADDENDA? Allah says do his ZIKR while lying sitting or any way. ONLY SHETAN TRY'S TO STOP MUSLIMS FROM ZIKR, NOW U KNOW WHAT U R. ALLAHY SAYS HIM CRIMINAL WHO STOPS MUSLIMS FROM HIS ZIKR.

[acejamal1]

Islam is a continuation of the Faith that Adam taught his children and references are found throughout various scriptures i.e. songs of songs Solomon this is the religion of Shalom "peace" to use this video to try and disprove Sufi is ignorance of deen. We Muslims worship Allah standing sitting bowing before eating after eating it is All Zikr. Musnad Imam Ahmad V1p108 Bara bin Azib danced round the Prophet out of joy doing Zikr. don't be a blind follower research and ask if you are seeking truth

[bigtimes1]

The ways the Sufi are praying are not wrong. They are in fact a very obscure way of praying in Judaism and it's brother religion Islam.

Example. Salat is in fact a practice that comes from Judasim and is the original way of prayer in Judaism and is kept in it's full entirety and such by Arabian and North African Jews. Many have forgotten this form of prayer over time, but use the other forms of prayer in it's place. But the difference for us is that we can't do Salat on tile at all.

[bigtimes1]

To be honest, Jewish and Muslim traditions and prayer formalities are infact the same. There is no real difference besides the ethnic way of praying and such.

The Qur'an itself quotes the Tanakh (Tawrat) and Talmud left and right along with giving you guys the same laws and such to a certain extent, plus many of todays Islamic laws that are practiced come mainly from the Hadiths and the holy Qur'an itself. Yes a Jew said holy Qur'an. It is a book of god for none-Jews.

[Azarel011]

This video is true. But it is not only that they do not follow the original message and practicals of the Prophets, also those who reject any Prophet, will never be accepted with his religion and faith. No matter, if you reject Jesus(as), or Jesus(as) and Muhammad(sas). The final messenger is Muhamamd(sas). It is Gods will. So, no matter how much jews or christian worship to God or to idols, it will not be accepted on the day of Judgement.

[Askaridze]

Заблудшие, асагфируЛлах, аъузубиллях!

[stupci100]

THIS IS E DHIKR ALLAH-HAYY AND IF Y;U ARE MUSLIMS YOU MAST DOO IT IF YOU THINK TOO GO IN GJENET

YOU DONT NO ENYTHING MORE ONLI WHAT YOU LERN JJEZID LANETULAH

[stupci100]

DO YOU NO WHAT THE SUFI COLING ALLAH AND YOU MAST TELL E TROTH DON BY IVEL

[aman72153]

the muslims is not terrorist the wahabi is terrorists

[abz3751678]

this is interesting sufis are completely away from islam they follow some weird rituals of the pagan religons, grave woshipping,foot kissing.urine drinking,and cutting there self.They are mad people worse than ahmadis/qadyans

[evilprada101]

@Atariq 3: You say No Racist COmments and All.. But that is Not FAir wen you said a racist comment in start by saying Sufis and Jews are same.. The Greatest Pride a muslim takes is Being the Ummah OF Nabi SWS and You taking them out of the Leauge.. You wont understand anything what that is and why that is like that.. Coz you are so Judgemental.. A peice of Advice for you.. Dont think The religon is limited to what you practice and know.. it is very very vast.. you will come to know about it with

[Abdullahjee]

Freedom of religion.We all have our own way of preaching good or not only God has the sole power to judge us.Better be busy in prayer than criticizing others way of prayer.

[momentum77]

OMg! You're joking right?!? You're comparing Sufi zikr, where brothers come together to recite the name of God in unison and bless his name, with individual jews praying solo in silence while rocking back and forth??? A better similarity would be the way afghan taliban recite the quran while rocking back and forth.

if you indeed prefer a bland and stale life, stick to wahabism

[atariq3]

Please note that I don't mean any offence to any Jewish person by this video.

It is a comparision for the Sufis to see and realise their own deviance from the truth.

So if any Jewish person wants to comment, then please feel free to do so. You being from amongs the People of the Book (the Tawrah), I would love to hear what you think of this video and the similarity that the Shias and the Sufis have with your belief and ways of worship.

Please feel free to comment. Thankyou.

[bigtimes1]

@atariq3 Islam and Judaism are pretty much the samething except for a few things here and there. Such as Muhhamad being made a prophet to none-Jews (Jewish view on him) and not to Jews. Muhhamad himself was part Jewish, and had many Jewish family members, kept many of the laws and Judaism to his best ability, and had Jewish wives.

[riadhee]

@atariq3 who told u anybody is answerable to u . u think urself a god or u object on ibadat u poeple just paray only farz no prayer even on LAILATULQADAR , u poeple even dont know the meaning of ibadat. r u a prophet that ask 4 ur recommendations ALLAH 'S zikr could b done at some tahir place nd only tahir poeple do zikr of ALLAH , its only Shetan nd its followers who stops muslims from zikr.

[Impervious2Pain]

sufi allow shirk qabr worship taking peers as gods kalling dead for help and lots of other shirk bida kufr

shia and sufi are equal in ya ali help us and ya ghaus and other rubbish

sufi are hindus doing tuqya

[Impervious2Pain]

yahoodi=shia=sufi

all equal in kufr

[MrQho]

wELL THE JEWISH RELIGION CAME FROM THE PEOPLE THAT FOLLOWED THE PROPHET MOSES ALAYHISSALAM. THEY BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD WE BELIEVE IN. THE BOOK THEY READ CAME FROM ALLAH SO WHY ARE JUDGING WHAT THEY DO. SO IF THEIR ARE ANY SIMILARITIES, WHICH THIS ONE YOU HAVE CREATED YOURSELF, ITS NOT REALLY THAT SURPRISING. LEARN YOUR TRUE RELIGION BEFORE PREACHING, SEEK KNOWLEDGE FROM THE RIGHT PEOPLE NOT UR LOCAL IMAM WHO YOU WENT TO SCHOOL WITH.

[boysbydesign]

Brother Follow Good AND Discard bad

the people of sunnah are the ahle sunnah wal jammat and are or 80% or above of the muslim ummah.

just because the wobblerts are buying out channels doesnt mean they are majority as God almighty said when in confusion follow the Majority and that is ahle sunnah wal jammah

[moehammadmano]

@atariq3,selamaleikom aghi,i really dont think you can compare your brothers with Jews.

You know the Hadid saying sws"some people look like believers but in the heart they are unbelievers and there are people who look like non-believers but in the heart they are believers"(Sahih Boechaarie).

So what you see is maybe not wat it is.Let Allah be the judge,let us be just Abd'Allah.

[sukkot54]

ITS ABOUT AS SIMILAR AS WHITE MILK AND WHITE PAINT YOU MORON. IF ANYTHING SUFI IS RELATED TO HINDU RITES.

[batmanpj]

I AGREE WITH YOU atariq3.ISLAM IS ISLAM,WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING ANY OTHER RELIGIONS.EVEN WHEN CALL F PRAYER NEED TO INTRODUCE,OUR MUHAMMAD S.A.W.DID NOT WANT CALL FOR PRAYER (AZAN) SAME LIKE OTHER RELIGION.E.G:BELL.PLEASE...REA­D THE HISTORY,READ THE QURAN AND HADIS...YOU WILL NOT LOST....DONT FOLLOWS IF YOU DONT KNOW.....

[AL15L4M]

Alhamdulilah This Shows The Proximity Between Muslims And Jews, You Will Also Find The Salah Is Also Very Similar To Old Jewish Prayer

[wassap28]

How can you compare Muslims to the Jews, be careful brother!

[ejajufri]

Jewish have One God, and Islam too... Stupid video!

[exchangemarketor3]

pardon me if i am rude but i think this analogy is totally riduculous

[drestaboy]

we all have simmilar things because we all are the manifistations of the One. f

[19Lion8]

Some hindu/tao/buddhists bow in front of their idols, does that mean Muslims should stop bowing to Allah swt also??

[atariq3]

@19Lion8

They bow to something CREATED (that did Not Create)...

Whereas God Almighty Created Everything and deserves to be worshipped.

Idols do not deserve to be worshipped - they dont have the right.

[mony9070]

@atariq3

The concept of God for Hindus is that God is so limitless that there is nothing that God is not. God is everything, everything is God. God just IS. Idols are used as a representation of this limitless, formless God. The worship is to God. When you think of God, what do you picture? Isn't that "created?" By the way, what is Mecca...isn't that also a physical form?

[mony9070]

What is the definition of "muslim." I mean, Sufis believe in Mohammad, call God Allah, etc right? If they chose a different way of worship, without harming others, who is anyone to say that it is "wrong" or "false?" If you consider yourself Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Christian, athiest etc... then that's what you are, right? Seems there is too much emphasis on trying to discredit others' faiths. More outward looking than inward looking. Live and let live.

[kamranfani]

to be a beard is the nature of man. but the orders for muslims to be beard is not as same as jews or sikhs. problem is the way of ibadah. did sahaba did such ibadah? no.! but the jews did this ibadah.. but thier prophet did not also did this type of ibadah. they are Gumrah, as most of muslim ummah.

[zivonit]

no dear, we jews are successful (not nescesarily rich) because of gods love to us. our ancestors were real brilliant ppl and gave us a tressure the TORA book of wisdom. we learn it and keep its commandments for thousands of years. we are smart becuase of that. and we are good ppl with kind hearts despite everything that YOU think about us.

[omarking56]

You are Right dear, they are Bidati people.

[hchsbp1]

I think you are reaching here. Honestly, Jews practice stricter monotheism than Suffis, if you really want to stick to the facts.

Also, if you check how Jews pray, it's almost the same as how we pray; sujood and all. Don't forget, they are ahl al kitab and Islam has always been the religion of Allah SWT.

You should seriously consider removing this video as it is insulting to both Islam and Judaism.

[SeekingLight1]

It is the swaying of the soul in its longing for God. May God bless all the children of Abraham.

[zivonit]

What do I think ?

I think you are stupid for comparring a barbaric ceremony of prayer a type of extaza' to a swaying of Jewish prayers

the words we Jews say in our prayers is thanking God for the good things he gives us such as eyes to see good ears' breath, etc

the prayers mainly contains pleads for a better day/month/year. for good health and happiness

and lots of pleads for peace for us and Jerusalem our holy city.

TEN SHALOM=give us peace we ask

WE SAY MEANINGFUL PRAYERS

[MatthewMuhammad]

Well, Abraham Maimonides, son of Moses Maimonides, was the Chief Rabbi of Egypt (I believe). And he was influenced greatly by Sufism, and he formed his own Jewish Zikr groups, and his correspondences were read in most of the Jewish communities in the world. So, it's not surprising that Jews and Sufi zikr is similar.

[g1heart]

this is jewish islam this defenitely is a work of a jew who corrupted the islam as they did with cristians. Allah has protected the quran they planned but failed to change it. shame on these sufis who make money out of graves(dead). Did mohemmed (saws) or his companions did all this rubbish no never who the hell they are to innovate things in islam. when prophet himself told us in his last sermon that today i have completed islam.

[klokanizam]

A prayer against the wall and mentioning of God's name as to follow what's being said in hadeeth and Kor'an (call Allah by all His beautifull names). And the jews face the wall and read (wrong) torah. What's there alike? How about ruk'u in salat? Isn't that doing like jews? How about sajda, isn't that like from the jesus movie?

[Nederweed]

Come on brothers! Prophet Sulaiman and Prophet Isa and prophet daud were all Muslim Jews whom belived in Allah and the pervious massengers, they also believed in the angels and the day of judgment, lets look at our hearts please!

[tangaweya]

lol! so true!

Oh well...sufis brought on themselves, who told them to create such a Bidah, SUBHNALLAH!

[VisarMitro]

Muslim follows path of Muhammed saws not this kind of bidah that were never practice by Selef.

[5TheeSalon5]

atariq3 did you have a look into a yeshiva and a medrasah? in both you will see students sitting down and rocking back and forth...does this mean the Muslim students are emulating the yeshiva students?

[SalafiJustice]

akhi, the reason why they have so many similarities is because they both stem from the MYSTICS..sufis are mystics and the jews have a mystical branch too..the kabbaalah. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAAM, tassawuf itself has nothing to do with islaam, the zuhd is already taught in the sunnah..THE PROPER ZUHD..not the extreme zuhd that sufis innovate. may Allaah protect this ummah from sufis and shia and all deviants ameen

[southwalesdawah]

The Prophet Sallallaahu alayhi wa salaam said in an authentic hadeeth "whoever imitates a people, then he is from them".Therefore, if a Muslim does an action which is specific to a particular people (in this case nodding vigorously whilst making thikr which is specifically a jewish tradition) then it is possible that he has fallen into that which the above hadeeth states, and Allah knows best. Furthermore, there is no authentic proof to establishing that the Prophet did this or approved of it

[southwalesdawah]

(continued......) so at the very least, this is a bidah and as the prophet used to say before every sermon "every newly invented matter (in the religion) is a bidah (innovation), every bidah is misguidance and every misguidance is in the hell fire!" As for the hat argument, then wearing a garment on the head is from the sunnah so there is no harm in this (as long as it is done in accordance to the sunnah) wearing hats is not specific to jews, only the style in which they wear it.

[antebo]

ah what a great argument.. you'd better read something about them dude..

[1000MUSLIM]

is this islam NO.

IS THIS THE WAY TO FIND ALLAH=NO NO

IS THIS THE WAY MUHAMED (A.S) DO TO FIND ALLAH ==== NO NO NO NO NO NO

ESTAGFIRULLAH

REAL MUSLIMS DONT JUMP AROUND LIKE ANIMALS

SO PLEZZ

STOP STOP

[lansanak]

yes i dont like see that

islam never teach like that

lets back to Alqur'an and sunnah

[987hassan]

may Allah preserve our sunnah

[TanMalaka1945]

The difference is Sufi believe Muhammad SAW but Jewish doesnt believe it. The first rule is syahadat (2 statements)... The way of sufi walking, eating, crying and other thing are the same with Jewish, so no surprise .. dont take into account about the small stuf .. I love humanity and all of you ... PEACE and LOVE

[saifodinne]

The prophet(pbon) sad do not ACT in all form like Jews and Christians so why are these sufis praying like this when the prophet (pbon) nor did the Sahaba did Dikr like this . This is Bidaa inovation and all bad inovatios are in Hell fire . They may be muslim but they are on the wrong path of the real teaching of our prophet(pbon).

Plesae before you adopte any new thing comparet with the Quran and Sunna if is not there better stay away from it even its looks good to you maybe Shaitan behind it

[ephrayimlevi]

No its not the truth, nothing u just said is fact and ur 100% wrong. The torah demands many of the holidays, they arent man made, except chanukah and maybe purim, depending on the view. Second of all jewish does have formal ways of prayer, which is sppken of in the torah, and kabbalah isnt something people learn so easily, most of the kabblah people go learning, like that whore madonna is a fake kabbalah. and tora says nothing about satan being evil, after all angels are above man, and above sin

[atariq3]

I have removed comment by moe*979because he was being racist.

[Azarel011]

@ephrayimlevi

Kabbalah is an inventation of people. Its jewish mysticism, and it has nothing to do with the Monotheism of the Prophets of God.

Also the Talmud is invented by Rabbis, who invented a lie against God. It is shocking what is written in this scriptures. It is never from God, i have read comments by Rabbis who converted to Islam, and they also admitted that it is a terrible crime , and its non of inspirations to Moses(as).

Qur´an is the final revelation without changings.

[fakiriyim]

Part 1: you must read the Koran my friend, are in the Kuran AYET describe those who are Jews. then you need to read what a Muslim is!

I recommend also fear and respect from Allah to have. Do not forget the religion is not your property. But you're someone where it is allowed to make Sahade. It is not about you. The Ümmet to criticize. Even if they do sin, they are not Jews or Kafir. They are maximum, sinful Muslims

[6879727]

ya video jis bhee baywakoof Baddamag nay upload ki hai mai us say poochta hoon kay Allah kay Banday jis tarha Sufi zikar kar rahay hain (jis mai Sheik ul islam bhe shamil hain)namaz bhee to isi tarha pertayn hain pehlay seedha khara hootay hain pher Roqo mai jatay hain. to tum aisa karoo kay namaz bhee perna choordoo.

[moe1979]

Also, the jews don't have to to wear suits or hats or black hats. They got this idea out of no where. I guess it was one big sale at macys.

I am so glad, that I will not witness the destruction allah is going to give the kafirs jews and christians.

Al hamduallah that I pray 5 times a day. And may allah make every muslim shine in their hearts.

[ephrayimlevi]

and here u are right though, not all jews wear black hats, the idea didnt come out of no where though. Its an old tradtion of jews that lived in europe, epsecilaly russia to stand out from everyone else and not be like anyone else. its jewish law to not be like other men of the world and a way to still significantly stand seperatly is to wear the white and black and stick to the old traditions they kept in europe....maybe u should stop speaking out of ur ass dude.

[meosc]

Why cant we keep our DEEN simple like our prophet MOHAMMED(SAW)taught us stick to the FIVE PILLERS an stop all this mumbo jumbo sufi buisness

[calliter]

Lots of hatred, indifference and condemnation abound in the comments here.I still have to read one asking Allah to guide and forgive these people. May Allah forgive the sufis.

[SLF5000]

muchemo we brought back the true islam which was brought to us by prophet Muhammed pbuh. all u sufis have done is created a new religion by taking bits n pieces from other religions like hinduism christianity etc.

[juustiin]

There is only one G-d. HaShem elokeinu HaShem Echad.

La ilaha illallah! Ameen. Amen.

[zakuk77]

How dare these people invent new ways of worship when the Prophet (S) taught us the best of ways. Do these sufis think they are better than the Prophet (S) and his companions!?

[zubatzu]

indeed, another thing it is discrasefull how muslims walk like the kafir this is BIDAH from know own we must hop so not to immitate them.(you get my point)

[atariq3]

Question on falsehood of Sufism answered by Sumayyah1771.. proving my point in her last comment.

[sumayyah1771]

Sufism saw its advent in the 4th and 5th Centuries A.H. Well, due to the aforementioned, this is obviously impossible. What's true is that the first of the formal, codified Sufi orders appeared in the 4th century AH, but Sufism and Sufis saw their origins with the origin of Islam and was conveyed by the beloved Prophet, (s).

[Islam3771]

THE QUR'AN SPEAKS FOR ITSELF:

'And if you are in some doubt, concerning what We sent down upon Our special devotee, then bring one chapter like it, and call upon all your helpers beside Allah, if you are truthful.

Then if you cannot bring and We declare that you can never bring, hence dread the fire whose fuel is men and stones, is prepared for the disbelivers'

Surah Baqarah Ayah 23 + 24

[atariq3]

there is a difference between actions in the general daily life and actions of worship.

Worship is tauki-fiyyah (legislated).

There is a ruling for it all.

We cant add anything to worship and nor can be take anything away from worship.

We pray and worship Allah exactly how Allah has told us, and how His Messenger (salallahu alahi wasallam) told us.

We dont make it up as we go along.

And if someone else has made it up, we dont follow that person.

[atariq3]

OmarAbdullah

"Tasawuff" as you mentioned in your comment, is something not from islam.

And that which was not a part of islam at the time of the Messenger of Allah can not be a part of islam today. Simple, but its true.

It is not mentioned by Allah in the Quran.

Nor by the Messenger of Allah.

Nor practiced by him or any of the Sahaba.

Or by those who came after them (including the 4 famous imaans).

It has its origins in the 4th-5th century hijri when it was added to the religion.

[PhoenixArtsRon]

Thank you for your advice, good to learn about other cultures ;)

[ibraevbauyrzhan]

how can i download this video?

[atariq3]

Please go to the bottom of this page, and click on

"View all 25 Comments".

[abuqudamah2005]

weird

[SALAF18]

i dnt knw whether ur refering that to the salafis. but its interesting that u said that ur wiv abu hanifa? ahlul sunna is 1 sis! wat do u say to sum1 who doesnt follow ur madhab? will u also claim that that they are conceited claiments?  so here u make the madhab of abu hanifa as being the jamaat? if im correct wat do u say to those who are shafi'e?

[SALAF18]

i mean the fact u said that shows that u knw ver little about the salaf and wat they wer upon i could give u more info sis. since the thing is wen u said im a traditional sunni i bet that u havent sat and thought wat is the way whic the prophet came wiv and the companions past down. so sis this an humble invitation to tread in the path of the sunna inshaallah

[BoriChumba]

Bro I am Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat .. Imam Abu Hanifa school of thought .. I do follow the sunnah... I am surprised you should assume otherwise LOLZ

[SALAF18]

assalam waalaikum sis wat does 'traditional sunni' mean. i mean r u different from a modern or orthodox sunni? its jus a play of words. rather 1 shuld follow the quran and sunna on the understanding of the salaf, surely its a lack of knowledge on ur part that u dnt knw that such practices are contrary to the sunnah. rather the sunna shuld be sufficient for us and we shuldnt go and luk to the other religions and implement them as a form of legislated worship! so 1 shuld feel disgusted at this!

[ChechenMaga]

May Allaah guide us all to Ahl as-Sunnah wa 'l-Jamaa`ah, the Saved Group.

[PhoenixArtsRon]

So what do the Sufis believe? What part of the Qu'ran are they forsaking, if you can please help my understanding of this issue. Many thanks.

[msaqib1]

Yep, there are many issues with the Sufi sect.

Besides the fact that this deviant sect finrst started in the 11th Century, the members of this sect seem to invent their own worship as they go through life.

They have been refuted by Scholars of main-stream Islam from the time they emerged until this present day.

Sufis have their own "tariqa"s (or ways) they believe that they can get closer to God All-Mighty.

They just seem to imrpvise when it comes to this.

[msaqib1]

Although God mentions in the Quran that the religion is perfect and complete, they believe that their sufi leaders get some type of revelation that makes them have knowledge that others dont have.

What is surprising is that the whole point of God sending a Prophet and Messenger is that we should follow the guidance of that Messenger.

However, the Sufis dont exactly believe this with regards their actions. To the extent that they have absolutly NO guarantee that the worship that they..

[msaqib1]

.. invent\perform will ever be accepted by God All-Mighty.

They also have the evil concept of "Wahdatul-Wajud" (which means that God is everywhere within His creation). Obviously, not only is this a false belief and doesn't make sense, but also, it goes against the many, many, many clear verses of the Noble Quran where Allah has mentioned that He created the heavens and the earths in 6 days, then he arose above His Throne (which is above the 7 heavens).

Also..

[msaqib1]

.. the more extreme Sufis (although not all) go on to believe (eminating from this false belief) in the concept of "Hol-uul" (that God is within the creation and within mankind.

Therefore they try their best (aim in life) to become "one with God" (may Allah protect us from such foolish belief).

They devise the system that God is "more" in people than in (for example) objects such as stones\idols.

Then "more" within some people (like 'Saints') than in the average person.

[msaqib1]

These sufi shaikhs and Pirs are reveared as "holy" and "pios". They believe that they are so holy that they are guaranted Paradise by God, and therefore they dont need to worship God anymore (because they are at a level that is very high).

Obviously, now that they are going Paradise, they somehow can intercede and are able to take others to Paradise also.

Therefore their (un-educated) followers almost worship them so that they take them to Paradise with them.

Falsehood upon falsehood.

[msaqib1]

To find out more, i recommend you (and others) to read the Quran for yourself.

What it says in there is the word of God and the teachings and beliefs of the Muslims.

What now contradicts the Quran is falsehood.

For a copy of the translation of the meanings of the Quran in the English Language, please click on the below links..

(two different file formats have been provided for your benefit).

inf,brad,ac,uk/~msaqib2/The_No­ble_Quraan,chm

inf,brad,ac,uk/~msaqib2/The_No­ble_Quran,pdf

[PhoenixArtsRon]

The concept of someone burning in Hell for all eternity is kind of a sick notion.

Despite the Crimes of the Sinner, nobody deserves an eternity of Pain and Suffering.

I'm against the Death Penalty for the simple reason of the person who has to perform the killing, the mental scars it leaves.

Helping people into Paradise seems like a noble 'giving' cause to me.

[atariq3]

Yes,

Its not for any reason that someone will go to Hell. Although someone may choose to hate it, this doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't exist. I'm sure that you will agree that there is a difference here.

Even i hate to be punished in Hell, and i run from anything that leads to it (i keep away from evil acts).

I dont want to be an evil person and do evil things in this life. This is not right. Hell is only for the very bad people.

Ofcourse going to Paradise is what we aim for

[atariq3]

And thats not all.

We should not be selfish.

We should not just think about our own selves and no one else. This is not right.

Rather, we also want good for others. We command the good and forbid the evil. What better policy can you think of than this?

Its for this reason that ofcourse i also (and most people i know), we want good for other people. Peoople caring for other people. So we aim to go to Paradise and helping people into Paradise is a noble giving cause.

[PhoenixArtsRon]

We don't need God to know good from bad, it's a natural instinct to do whats right or do bad, no amount of religion can stop bad people doing bad things.

[majaiz]

but this is not all,

all of this weird belief then continues and leads many of the sufis to perform acts of Bidah. Some Bidah leading them to major shirk (and thus outside the fold of islam).

Even history dictates the many religions that have emerged out of Sufism.

Bahiullah (The Bahis) are one religion that is outside the fold of Islam.

Sikhism (with Nanak Noshai) is another off-shoot of Sufism and a new religion (totally outside the fold of Islam).

[majaiz]

Even Mirza Gullam Qadiani's religion is outside the fold of Islam.

The Qadianis (and their weird tassawuf and kashf) are outside the fold of Islam.

And there are many others.

This is from the reality of Sufism.

A deviant sect that started in the 11th Centuary. Its leaders being executed by the Muslims for being "heritics in the religion".

And then many religions comming from this bent belief. What a fitnah. Auzo'billah (may Allah protect the people from the fitnah of the Sufis).

[IbnSaeed]

Assalamualiakum

In the first Sufi dhikr video, Pakistans notorious Shiekh Ul Fitnah (Tahir ul qadri) is also present doing the dance. He is the leader of Jamat Muslimeen and they are Bralaveis, they worship the saints and especially Rasool Allaah.

[salaphi]

Is that the wailing wall?

Why on earth are the Sufis worshiping like the Jews?

From what i know, there is not much difference. Even the Jews call their God Ellah.

So can anyone let me know please?

I'm lost for words.

Inshallah after seeing this, i will keep away from Sufi ways of worship and only worship Allah how the the Prophet (salallahu alaihi wasallam) told us in the Saheeh hadeeth.

I recommend all Sufis do this and keep away from the evil of making their own worship up.

[sali311]

Well i'm for what you said.

Sufis need to re-think their belief and worship methods again.

I have no more to say.

[atariq3]

Please note that I don't mean any offence to any Jewish person by this video.

It is a comparision for the Sufis to see and realise their own deviance from the truth.

So if any Jewish person wants to comment, then please feel free to do so. You being from amongs the People of the Book (the Tawrah), I would love to hear what you think of this video and the similarity that the Shias and the Sufis have with your belief and ways of worship.

Please feel free to comment. Thankyou.

[atariq3]

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