I would not believe a single word that the BBC say, They are full of shit and always have been. Panorama is full of untrue info and they have had to pay a lot of money out in damages. they use licence fee payers money to pay for these fines.
Why do world renowned experts claim wifi is dangerous? Well firstly you haven't established that they are in fact world renowned experts, and secondly there are always the idiots and crackpots in all groups. Simply because someone with a degree disagrees with other people with a degree doesn't constitute evidence that the lone person is correct.
All those idiots who thumb up idiots like "realwirelessman" shouldn.t forget that there are people being paid for their lobby propaganda. And his name already says what his account was being put up for already .. lol
last year in my school they had installed a wifi router in every classroom, hallway, and even the bathrooms! before they had wifi routers spaced throughout the school so you could get signal anywhere in the school, but now every room! you cant escape from it! its another government program to dumb us all down and kill us all!
@TheMrBandGuy Don't want to be rude, but why don't you go to your own US fringe sites and post your comments there, this is a programme for the UK about possible dangers of wifi.
@mcwolfus yes, but this is a scientific debate, trying to sort out the fact and the possible dangers of low power RF. This is nothing to do with how many US citizens hate their governments based on strange paranoid fantasy puedoscience. Facts based on proven science, from proven sources still apply in Europe, (if you know where that is), and we want to keep it that way, unsensational as it may be.
Has any test been done between WIFI and ARTHRITIS?,im no expert ,while using my mobile device,a pain quickly develops in my shoulder ,i suggest wifi ,cell phone radiation,could perhaps be triggering this(,i have since inserted a rubber insert into my device case front and back early days yet though it does seem to aleviate this pain)or stop this pain developing,i wonder if others have similar occurances?
results are plausible. Wifi access point @20mw reference power at 1m, path loss exponent of 2 results in 3.33mw @ 3m (omnidirectional)
Phone mast at 20w reference at 1m Results in 2mw at 100m omnidirectional, path loss exponent of 2.
At the end of the day, this is a tiny amount of power compared to a phone operating at 1-2 watts next to your head. I don;t think there is any danger from masts or access points.
Prolonged use of your phone next to your head at max power could be a problem
@mcwolfus No, microwave radiation exposure is cumulatitive - it add up as time goes by. At some time you become allergic to it - the same way perfume allergy works.
@tigeren32 Allergic to microwave?! Not sure allergy fits the model but, it does appear to be cumlatitive, but then again, there is debate about it, and nobody can agree about the effects-how can they?
@theboss9999999 Thankfully, science isn't based on 'opinion' or 'feelings'. Science carefully measures things and draws it's conclusions based on FACT.
and why dont you take a bit of your own advice and STUDY the technology before ranting your uneducated bullshit you fuckin mongo! its more likeley that your too dense to even get your 2 brain cells around it which explains your idiotic comments!!!!
Raytheon, for example, did a lobby to approve microwave ovens, now there are people taking off the magnetron of microwave ovens (the part that generates the microwaves) do make maser guns.
Technology for military use should not go to civilians.
Those cell phone towers create electrosmog that harms people's brains and causes catarats.
People should fight against dangerous technologies
Again i have to pull you up. As a telecomms engineer, you mention the development of cataracts. To form cataracts a significantly high RF power level is required as catacracts are created via a thermal heating effect, this level of RF power is no where near the level of wifi and mobile technologies (in the order of 30-50000 times less).
MASER (Low higher, high coherance) technology is very different than putting a waveguide on the end of a magnetron.
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Have you been reading about Nikolas Tesla again? By the way when I was in the military they displayed to us a... I think it was a VHF mast and when you approached it with a strip light (the type that normally needs a starter to light it), the strip light actually lit up at around 4 meters from the mast... Food for thought eh
no, but I know of tesla's work, however more recently scientists truly have invented or shall we say proved wireless electricity by transferring it to a light bulb with a distance of some 4 meters I thinks.
i refuse anything wifi in my home. tried it once and it made me ill. massive headaches. dont like talking on my mobile it gives me earache and makes my ear really hot. i text insted
This is too obvious. ive conducted many tests on Electro Magnetic Radiation and no such danger exists for Wi-Fi. According to my research, the government has been pushing for internet regulations and they continually use kids and commercials to trick the public.
If you thought mainstream media (TV) is corrupt, wait til they get a hold of the internet.
PLEASE research' MIND CONTROL'-Towers transmit brain changeing frequencies to weaken our fight against the NEW WORLD ORDER The waves have forced me to be a recluce _I hear and feel the 'fake chaos'signals with Bad physical effects-Im LEAVING for the 3rd world so I can LIVE & I dont even use a mobile! Its DELIBERATE POPULATION REDUCTION, deliberate killing of bees so no pollination=no food. RESEARCH people,destroy the towers DO NOT USE WIRELESS,AND MOST OF ALL develop your spirits STRENGTH ...
Nice test - only one problem....they test a tower from about 1000 meters without any phones, just the tower. Then they walk into the class and measure a dozen machines and access point. How about testing near a microwave! I think they'll notice the leakage is about 10X the power of that classroom, and if they'd had a cell phone they'd see the same 10X of the Wi-Fi system. Do you think they know these things and just want to do a scare piece or do you think this engineer is an idiot. Maybe BOTH
Thats what trey where telling us or not? That all the exposure to all those machines together, show us a far higher level of radiation than the cellphonetower or did I get it wrong again?
the main difference is with a cell phone the transmitter and power source is about 1 inch or less from your brain... the farther you are from the tower, the more power your cell phone transmits. Very high power next to the brain. When you talk about RF in radio stations, usually the station is miles and miles away from you... thats VERY different. Your radio sits passively and listens, it does not even transmit a thing.
@realwirelessman Don't forget to mention that in the last 30+ years power output levels have DROPPED significantly, primarily because receiver technology has improved, and lower power equals longer battery life.
that is a lot of shit it don't harm you i have my mobile on 24/7 and i been near a mobile phone mast at college but we don't have wifi but we will soon
Great posting 5 ***** And I saved a full page add. earlier in the week from a national 'news'paper (only good for picking up my dog's sh*t}...FREE LAPTOP IF YOU SIGN UP TO A MOBILE PHONE SERVICE PTROVIDER!
It would appear to be a TROJAN HORSE to GET EVERYONE IN THEIR INVISIBLE WIRELESS WEB OF FREQUENCY POLLUTION. THESE INVISIBLE ENERGIES KILL AND MAME!
BUYER BEWARE AND GET THEM OUT OF SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN'S LITTLE BODIES!!!
I call utter bullshit. I can make my spectrum analyzer grow grass as well to make it look bad. Perhaps we should just eliminate all cell phones, PC's , internet, hell while we are at it...just get rid of AC power. Enjoy your candles.
Orgonite. A piece of plastic that does....nothing. People come on here shooting off at the hip about this worthless POS Orgonite yet NOBODY has data to backup this so called "negative to positive energy" bullshit.
Lol, whatever. Ok, so if you want to sell your theory to the world, then give us data that your little Orgonite works. Show us how these "mind control" devices work and what physical effect it has on the human body. Again, NOBODY has data to back up this "negative energy" thing. Not even you, yea your cool alright. Go wear your tin foil hat.
Sorry for calling you that i just enjoy a rumble. I have no evidence other than I have Mogellons. No Dr will believe me. I hear a loud electrical HUM every where 24/7 so do millions of others. Plenty of stats on that one. I know nothing about Orgonite except I doubt it's plastic. My own sensitivity to these issues is all I have to go on and I guess when Science won't help we have to try anything when we get this sick. Oh and check out Dr. Judy Wood and HAARP. Tesla was not wrong.
This happens with every new technology.
marcuelcajon 3 weeks ago
The news today shows that wifi damages and kills sperm. Microwave ovens operate at the same frequency as a wifi router, 2.4ghz
2011so5 2 months ago
I would not believe a single word that the BBC say, They are full of shit and always have been. Panorama is full of untrue info and they have had to pay a lot of money out in damages. they use licence fee payers money to pay for these fines.
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MMRLoonie7 4 months ago
Why do world renowned experts claim wifi is dangerous? Well firstly you haven't established that they are in fact world renowned experts, and secondly there are always the idiots and crackpots in all groups. Simply because someone with a degree disagrees with other people with a degree doesn't constitute evidence that the lone person is correct.
sdarvell 6 months ago
@sdarvell
they might be world renowned experts, not necessarily in a field that is actualy relevant to the topic at hand, but an expert at "something".
alphamone 6 months ago
All those idiots who thumb up idiots like "realwirelessman" shouldn.t forget that there are people being paid for their lobby propaganda. And his name already says what his account was being put up for already .. lol
thelordofassholes 8 months ago
last year in my school they had installed a wifi router in every classroom, hallway, and even the bathrooms! before they had wifi routers spaced throughout the school so you could get signal anywhere in the school, but now every room! you cant escape from it! its another government program to dumb us all down and kill us all!
TheMrBandGuy 8 months ago
@TheMrBandGuy Don't want to be rude, but why don't you go to your own US fringe sites and post your comments there, this is a programme for the UK about possible dangers of wifi.
mcwolfus 8 months ago
@mcwolfus because this is youtube, where there is a much larger audience, and since wifi is universal it does not only apply to the UK.
TheMrBandGuy 7 months ago
@mcwolfus yes, but this is a scientific debate, trying to sort out the fact and the possible dangers of low power RF. This is nothing to do with how many US citizens hate their governments based on strange paranoid fantasy puedoscience. Facts based on proven science, from proven sources still apply in Europe, (if you know where that is), and we want to keep it that way, unsensational as it may be.
mcwolfus 7 months ago 2
i blame john f kennedy for this, if he was alive today, boy!!!
acerza89 9 months ago
Has any test been done between WIFI and ARTHRITIS?,im no expert ,while using my mobile device,a pain quickly develops in my shoulder ,i suggest wifi ,cell phone radiation,could perhaps be triggering this(,i have since inserted a rubber insert into my device case front and back early days yet though it does seem to aleviate this pain)or stop this pain developing,i wonder if others have similar occurances?
justicekingkong 11 months ago
@justicekingkong sound like a placebo effect, try doing a double blind experiment.
mcwolfus 8 months ago
my school :) 2:14
fredpe1 1 year ago
death by technology.
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maduharshi 1 year ago
results are plausible. Wifi access point @20mw reference power at 1m, path loss exponent of 2 results in 3.33mw @ 3m (omnidirectional)
Phone mast at 20w reference at 1m Results in 2mw at 100m omnidirectional, path loss exponent of 2.
At the end of the day, this is a tiny amount of power compared to a phone operating at 1-2 watts next to your head. I don;t think there is any danger from masts or access points.
Prolonged use of your phone next to your head at max power could be a problem
lukebaldan 1 year ago
@lukebaldan Agreed, only time will tell. A small number of people may be affected, but then thats life.
mcwolfus 8 months ago
@mcwolfus No, microwave radiation exposure is cumulatitive - it add up as time goes by. At some time you become allergic to it - the same way perfume allergy works.
tigeren32 5 months ago
@tigeren32 Allergic to microwave?! Not sure allergy fits the model but, it does appear to be cumlatitive, but then again, there is debate about it, and nobody can agree about the effects-how can they?
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quenarosima 1 year ago
fuck politics
shairyar123 1 year ago
hey ! i fry my kids brain ! i dont give a shit !
ihateyoujerkoff 1 year ago
In 2027 cancer rates will skyrocket since WiFi was introduced in 1997.
indiasucksalways 1 year ago
all i have to say is lying propaganda spreading bastards!!!
deillos1lee 1 year ago
dude i should die just without wi-fi
djdecca 1 year ago
i just want to know why there was a cell phone antena panel inside the waiting room for kaiser permanente
mikeq3a 1 year ago
interesting BBC report
ACTORnSCREENWRITER 1 year ago
Become a hero today...tear down your local 'cancer stick'
digitalisthedevil666 1 year ago
I work underneath the biggest cell phone tower in Atlanta. Should I be worried?
DigitalDel1 1 year ago
@DigitalDel1 No. Not unless you're fond of wearing tin-foil hats, in which case, there's no help for you.
playaspec 1 year ago
@playaspec lol too funny
DigitalDel1 1 year ago
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DigitalDel1 1 year ago
long term demolition of people is what is wifi part of in my opinion
theboss9999999 2 years ago
The same cell phone towers can be used to emit pulsed microwaves and make
EBL (electronic Brain Link)
RNM (Remote Neural Monitoring)
Frey effect (electronic hypnosis)
Those things are harmful beyonf belief and people ahould try to understand this NOW.
It's a battle for your mind and the weapons are the ones that hurt your brains.
Wake up before it is too late
monicatov 1 year ago
@monicatov
please monicatov where did you find this information? I'm sure many of us would love to find out about these technologies.
lukebaldan 1 year ago
@theboss9999999 Thankfully, science isn't based on 'opinion' or 'feelings'. Science carefully measures things and draws it's conclusions based on FACT.
playaspec 1 year ago
@playaspec You tell him playaspec! just like climate gate! facts ;)
yourboycal 1 year ago
Get your aluminum boxer shorts here
shine350 2 years ago
cool
WALIA56 2 years ago
profits first questions later.corporate sociopaths rule this planet
GordonsAllSeeingEye 2 years ago
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GordonsAllSeeingEye 2 years ago
it's bizarre that they always introduce these technologies then turn around and say 'wait, this could hurt you'
message to engineers: DO THE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU RELEASE IT YOU SCUM
I mean who cares if a few people die, think of all the money we'll lose in the time it takes to research our product for safety.
If i get ill and find out it's down to wi-fi i will hunt down the guy who developed it and slit his fucking throat, i swear to you.
almondmnm 2 years ago
and why dont you take a bit of your own advice and STUDY the technology before ranting your uneducated bullshit you fuckin mongo! its more likeley that your too dense to even get your 2 brain cells around it which explains your idiotic comments!!!!
themadscotsman28 2 years ago
The wireless protocol uses a similar bandwidth space as TV and Radio does.
So shall we just ban them?
Petchhyy 2 years ago
@Petchhyy Yes.
All EMF is unnatural. get an EMF reader and see for yourself.
teargardens 1 year ago
I agree with you.
Raytheon, for example, did a lobby to approve microwave ovens, now there are people taking off the magnetron of microwave ovens (the part that generates the microwaves) do make maser guns.
Technology for military use should not go to civilians.
Those cell phone towers create electrosmog that harms people's brains and causes catarats.
People should fight against dangerous technologies
monicatov 1 year ago
@monicatov
Again i have to pull you up. As a telecomms engineer, you mention the development of cataracts. To form cataracts a significantly high RF power level is required as catacracts are created via a thermal heating effect, this level of RF power is no where near the level of wifi and mobile technologies (in the order of 30-50000 times less).
MASER (Low higher, high coherance) technology is very different than putting a waveguide on the end of a magnetron.
lukebaldan 1 year ago
eugenics
djnero78 2 years ago
@djnero78 Totally!
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arjunus 2 years ago
oh oh we're going to have to all start sleeping in lead walled rooms now
paratrooper6 2 years ago
I Use Wi-Fi. I'm Not Dead Yet So Who Cares. Anyways Everybody's Going To Die Somehow. Wi-Fi Is The Least Of My Concerns.
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MassMods 2 years ago
just as you thought everyone had given up 'cancer sticks' they start putting up giant ones outside your house!
ControlFreakElite 2 years ago
hah think this is bad, wait till wireless electricity comes out.
BHALT0S 2 years ago
Have you been reading about Nikolas Tesla again? By the way when I was in the military they displayed to us a... I think it was a VHF mast and when you approached it with a strip light (the type that normally needs a starter to light it), the strip light actually lit up at around 4 meters from the mast... Food for thought eh
stuanemma 2 years ago
no, but I know of tesla's work, however more recently scientists truly have invented or shall we say proved wireless electricity by transferring it to a light bulb with a distance of some 4 meters I thinks.
BHALT0S 2 years ago
It is Nikola not Nikolas !!!!!!!
djolle2006 2 years ago
i refuse anything wifi in my home. tried it once and it made me ill. massive headaches. dont like talking on my mobile it gives me earache and makes my ear really hot. i text insted
spunkkymunkky 2 years ago
well arent you sensitive
dharmesha13 2 years ago
discusting
policewatch4ppl 2 years ago
This is too obvious. ive conducted many tests on Electro Magnetic Radiation and no such danger exists for Wi-Fi. According to my research, the government has been pushing for internet regulations and they continually use kids and commercials to trick the public.
If you thought mainstream media (TV) is corrupt, wait til they get a hold of the internet.
trogusman 2 years ago
PLEASE research' MIND CONTROL'-Towers transmit brain changeing frequencies to weaken our fight against the NEW WORLD ORDER The waves have forced me to be a recluce _I hear and feel the 'fake chaos'signals with Bad physical effects-Im LEAVING for the 3rd world so I can LIVE & I dont even use a mobile! Its DELIBERATE POPULATION REDUCTION, deliberate killing of bees so no pollination=no food. RESEARCH people,destroy the towers DO NOT USE WIRELESS,AND MOST OF ALL develop your spirits STRENGTH ...
LuminousHeights 3 years ago
PLEASE see a doctor.
amaster6900 2 years ago
people accept being ill
ontopoverpathways 3 years ago
Nice test - only one problem....they test a tower from about 1000 meters without any phones, just the tower. Then they walk into the class and measure a dozen machines and access point. How about testing near a microwave! I think they'll notice the leakage is about 10X the power of that classroom, and if they'd had a cell phone they'd see the same 10X of the Wi-Fi system. Do you think they know these things and just want to do a scare piece or do you think this engineer is an idiot. Maybe BOTH
realwirelessman 3 years ago 6
@realwirelessman
Thats what trey where telling us or not? That all the exposure to all those machines together, show us a far higher level of radiation than the cellphonetower or did I get it wrong again?
whispel 7 months ago
Anyone consider the RF power level of radio they've been exposed to since they were born? The power level is WAY HIGHER.
So, when are we going to pull down all those radio station towers?
realwirelessman 3 years ago 6
the main difference is with a cell phone the transmitter and power source is about 1 inch or less from your brain... the farther you are from the tower, the more power your cell phone transmits. Very high power next to the brain. When you talk about RF in radio stations, usually the station is miles and miles away from you... thats VERY different. Your radio sits passively and listens, it does not even transmit a thing.
brainphreak 3 years ago
@realwirelessman Don't forget to mention that in the last 30+ years power output levels have DROPPED significantly, primarily because receiver technology has improved, and lower power equals longer battery life.
playaspec 1 year ago
@realwirelessman
LoL I guess we should start wearing tin foil hats :-P
ACTORnSCREENWRITER 1 year ago
that is a lot of shit it don't harm you i have my mobile on 24/7 and i been near a mobile phone mast at college but we don't have wifi but we will soon
jakekerr44 3 years ago
Hell if it is not one thing then it's another...
5thDensity 3 years ago
its a magical money making system, the schools get paid for hosting those towers!
TheChemTrailReport 3 years ago
What you cant see,can kill you!
Biological effects!
Too many squigley lines streaming through time,and they want to get rid of us so they give us these. Its electro pollution alright!
WeCanAllGetAllong 3 years ago
Great posting 5 ***** And I saved a full page add. earlier in the week from a national 'news'paper (only good for picking up my dog's sh*t}...FREE LAPTOP IF YOU SIGN UP TO A MOBILE PHONE SERVICE PTROVIDER!
It would appear to be a TROJAN HORSE to GET EVERYONE IN THEIR INVISIBLE WIRELESS WEB OF FREQUENCY POLLUTION. THESE INVISIBLE ENERGIES KILL AND MAME!
BUYER BEWARE AND GET THEM OUT OF SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN'S LITTLE BODIES!!!
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iwasthatdolphin 3 years ago
Sock it to them Dolphin. At last we can answer these bastards back.
tadsie1 3 years ago 2
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tadsie1 3 years ago
I call utter bullshit. I can make my spectrum analyzer grow grass as well to make it look bad. Perhaps we should just eliminate all cell phones, PC's , internet, hell while we are at it...just get rid of AC power. Enjoy your candles.
matt9c1 3 years ago
Can't fucking wait you moron!
tadsie1 3 years ago
Orgonite planet earth...transform the negative energy to positive energy...peace and love.
joescott27 3 years ago
Orgonite. A piece of plastic that does....nothing. People come on here shooting off at the hip about this worthless POS Orgonite yet NOBODY has data to backup this so called "negative to positive energy" bullshit.
matt9c1 3 years ago
Data. Science. Death rays. Illuminati. Cancer. INTUITION . You don't fool anyone but your own pathetic self.
tadsie1 3 years ago
Lol, whatever. Ok, so if you want to sell your theory to the world, then give us data that your little Orgonite works. Show us how these "mind control" devices work and what physical effect it has on the human body. Again, NOBODY has data to back up this "negative energy" thing. Not even you, yea your cool alright. Go wear your tin foil hat.
matt9c1 3 years ago
Sorry for calling you that i just enjoy a rumble. I have no evidence other than I have Mogellons. No Dr will believe me. I hear a loud electrical HUM every where 24/7 so do millions of others. Plenty of stats on that one. I know nothing about Orgonite except I doubt it's plastic. My own sensitivity to these issues is all I have to go on and I guess when Science won't help we have to try anything when we get this sick. Oh and check out Dr. Judy Wood and HAARP. Tesla was not wrong.
tadsie1 3 years ago
scary but unavoidable so enjoy wifi before it kills u
gunsnroses123456789 3 years ago
thanx for the video
ralfsolo 3 years ago