Practical Life Extension Results

[flowewritharoma]

thanks for uploading this awesome video!

[MrIzzyDizzy]

i think this method was very wise - so young women you can follow this example for the sake of human progeny -and mate with older guys :P

[polymath7]

This could be interesting. I know Benford as one of the (at most) six or seven SF writers who are genuinely worth reading; I'm keenly curious to see what he has to say here...

[cpretartedmuch]

stupid video. why the hell does it last 52 minutes?

[neoaeonian]

@cpretartedmuch Re: stupid video. why the hell does it last 52 minutes?

52 minutes to talk about advances to add years to your life, stupid?

What, may I ask, represents a smart use of 52 minutes?

[cpretartedmuch]

@neoaeonian going against metal! i hate metal musik so fucking much

[justicetrooper]

Longer life spans means the potential for better scientists, that accumulate more information in their life span, and allow for much more thinking and analysis of that information.

Whether this is for the better, however, is an individual decision.

[Leobons]

1:22 ROFL

[higreentj]

To increase lifespan dramatically we need to intervene using stem cells, gene therapy, and move the remaining thirteen mitochondria genes in to the relative safety of the cell nucleus. Statins, rapamycin,sirtuins and igf-1 would not increase life expectancy significantly.

[3tangle3]

@higreentj we need a job shift from menial work to research thruogh use of robotics to speed up research itself

[MrIzzyDizzy]

@3tangle3  yes a resorce based economy would get us there - i found it intersting along those lines benford said he didnt need the money. ie hes doing it for himself and humanity

[semigotbanned]

you can't teach an old dog new tricks, I think it's true

[beautiful4est]

lol, do you think that you are that interesting?

[msnewyork336]

i dont respect this speaker,hes anti supplement and anti calorie restriction,who are you to critized kurzwell?

[halneufmille]

He's a scientist. Since we could never experiment on humans, we never had any proof that anything works on humans.

All Kurzweil do is educated guessing. But he has to, since the alternative is certain death before 100 y.o. There's no incoherence between Kurzweil and Benford.

[halneufmille]

Well, I should say he's a writer who has a scientific approach.

[Improbus42]

I don't care if its science or not. Does it get results? Now is the time to start living forever.

[justicetrooper]

How ironic would it be for someone to have lived to the age of fifty and gotten a life saving's worth of longevity treatments just to be hit by a bus?

[polymath7]

@justicetrooper

It wouldn't be ironic in the least; it would be unfortunate.

You really shouldn't derive your definition of irony from pop songs.

[justicetrooper]

@polymath7

Miriam Webster online dictionary

a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity

I think it would be ironic.

[jam454]

so now google wants to extend human life indefinately.. amazing

[eeyamane]

More time living, more time clicking adsense

[zalmoxe]

Some input on the age-associated creativity concern brought up at the end of the video.

Recent research has shown that the brain is an extremely malleable system, and that the addage 'use it or lose it', most often used in conjunction with muscular systems, also applies to the brain. We know, however, that many people do not voluntarily pursue lifelong learning and become complacent in structured, repetitious jobs which do not encourage and might even dull creativity. That could account for it.

[zalmoxe]

To expound a bit on my previous post (character limit!) and offer a wild conjecture; a society-wide propensity for conservatism might be 'cured' by lifestyle changes (i.e. exposing oneself to a constantly challenging and stimulating environment, which seems inevitable at the rate things are going anyhow).

But Mr. Benford is correct; this problem is secondary to the one he and others are trying to solve (and in fact, the raising of such a secondary issue is paradoxically conservative itself).

[john5246]

I wasn't clear what he meant by "conservatism" there's many applications to the word, sexually or in a broad sense trying to limit change. Most people find comfort with their routine lifestyles but Mr. Benford is right in pointing out that the most change has occurred as society has lived longer. Yes it is a secondary issue, yrs ago ppl were worried about how society would function if we didn't have to walk, that it would ruin everything, after all man was meant to walk! W/O cars we'd be nowhere

[john5246]

sorry character limit screwed up my thought:

yrs ago ppl were worried about how society would function if we didn't have to walk when the model T was rolling off the line, that it would ruin everything, after all man was meant to walk! W/O cars we'd be nowhere today, we worked it out and we'll figure the societal problems as they come

[sakathecheetah]

and for those that don't adapt.... let's just say natural selection will run its course. works the same if the idea fails -- evolution is funny that way.

[john5246]

but it only works over long periods of time and unfortunately we've become so self-aware as a species that we intervene (perhaps this intervention is part of evolution from a broad sense), not only that but we hold our selves to a moral standard and for fruit flies/mice/monkey's we don't seem to care how their treated.

[john5246]

Agreed 100%, but in my opinion the younger generation will have to continue learning and in fact most younger people will not be working in the same field their whole lives. Companies rise and fall and industries go from hot to cold. Thanks to the internet, digital books (thanks amazon kindle ;) and the enormous availability of free and constantly updated information (wikipedia) learning will be a life long goal AND necessity. Those who don't learn will be weeded out..."intellectual selection"

[eyhexs]

@john5246: so true

[imigrantpunk]

its a good way to pull out some candidate supplements, but it does not mean it will work in humans.. clinical trials needed!

[bluesrunthegame]

This isn't science; It's ad hoc experimentation and anecdotes.

[clumma]

He also says there's no way of individuals past breeding age to send information into the future. But that's not true in social animals -- see for instance the "gay uncle" hypothesis.

[habeeb1t]

also ignores technological paths such as cloning.

[whiteire]

yes, lol