Because like the only way to get rid of tyranid infestation on a planet is to:
a) systematically eradicate every trace (any "spores" left over will just result in new tyranids) requiring tons of man power and hours.
or
b) destroy the planet
The Imperium has men in plenty, so they usually decide to save the planet both for "moralistic" reasons (as skewed as the Imperium's morals are) and for logistical reasons. The Imperium needs planets!!!
Maybe, but the amount of nukes needed to purge tyranid spores would probably result in planet-wide death, anyway. They would be better off sending in Sisters of Battle as the clean-up crew.
A tactic in the past is to allow the planetary forces to fight and die to the last man which costs the Tyranids a great deal of losses in taking the planet. Then the planet is relentlessly bombed until no life remains which denies the Tyranids the ability to reclaim the Biomass lost in taking the planet. It's a questionable strategy that has proven very effective in slowing the Tyranids. The only problem is the world is lost and is an equally painful blow to the Imperium.
Virus bombs are still used although they have been mostly replaced by cyclonic torpedoes for exterminatus. I believe the most recent use was during the second Armageddon war against the orks. The problem with virus bombs is they kill organic life but don't destroy the remains which the Tyranids could still harvest. Cyclonic torpedoes on the other hand can destroy a planet completely with less than a hand full. The Blood Raven world Cyrene was destroyed by these torpedoes and other bombs.
@HowlFromBeyond, biomass... corpses left behind after the "firestorm", are the Tyranid also "necromorphs( see "deadspace"). DNA would be useless proteins that make up DNA would not survive the intense heat of a firestorm(as described in the Horus Heresy)...
Not all virus bombs contain the life eater virus used on Isstvan III. While that virus does produce ignitable gasses capable of starting a planet wide firestorm there are more effective weapons that produce a similar result without waiting for a pathogen to spread. One such example is the atmospheric incinerator torpedo which ignites oxygen which also results in a apocalyptic firestorm.
@HowlFromBeyond so were gunna assume all planets atmosheres contain oxygen(i'm sure there are trace amounts everywhere but not enough to sustain spontaneous combustion in a Carbon choked world, but then again theey are capable of terraforming in the future...)? The isstvan III bombs still sound like the most effective... curious as to how those incinerators work considering oxygen is not flammable... i don't mean to be an ass i'm just dedicated to science
I guess it works because they say it works and youre supposed to just hand wave the details because its in the future and maybe they figured out a way. I think we're also supposed to assume that any life sustaining world has oxygen in its atmosphere.
The life eater virus is still used against the Tyranids from what I understand and it is quite effective but I wouldn't be surprised if the Tyranids eventually engineer some form of immunity. However, there is no immunity to a destroyed planet.
@HowlFromBeyond i suppose that explanation works( it's the future) but present laws say, "nay!" but as you well know there are creatures that require no oxygen, Anaerobic bacteria are an example and in the deepest water covered chasms of our very own blue planet are creatures that survive on sulfur....but yes present chemical law is oxygen is not flammable, if you see chemical trucks hauling oxygen cylinders you'll notice they have a sticker that says "non flammable". but thx for humoring me :)
@GIR780997 no they start a chain reaction in the planets atmosphere that covers the planet in fire and burns up all the air on the planet. Or that's what I thought. anyway. Read about it in one of the warhammer 40K books. I believe it was the last book of the space wolves.
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I wouldn't say protoss are like the tau. I would say that they're more like the eldar in which they are masters of technolgy and space craft but a dying and finite people.
Seriously people... it wasn't Warhammer that Starcraft was taking things from... in fact, the two have nothing in common. Sure, Warhammer was out in the early 90s, with Starcraft coming out some time after, but Starcraft did not take anything from Warhammer 40K. Starcraft took it's thing from Aliens Vs Predator, actually.
Marine=Terran.
Predator=Protoss.
Alien=Zerg.
Lack of actual warp drive.
The creepy technological aliens have 'cone heads' and a hunter's personality.
one problem though... the hive mind is an idiot. all those milennia of experience and it cant come up with something better than wave tactics? the zerg, on the other hand, have proven their leaders to be capable commanders. Kerrigan VS. the UED, Dominion, and a protoss strike force all at the same time (and none of those was lead by an idiot either). result? curbstomp victory. also, scourges could blast apart hive ships in droves.
Within 24 hours the hive mind would have developed armor capable of withstanding the scourge attacks. The strength of the hive mind is not in its military tactics but in its ability to adapt on a moments notice. And for all those wave tactics you say are so foolish, it is only but a finger of the hive mind testing the waters those gargantuan fleets are only scouts testing the strength of resistance. besides once you conquer the milky way you get all the biomass back. Spamming troops is easiest
yeah ok.... tyranids come...suck the planet dry...and one space marine in a fast smalll cloacked ships rushes with the imperiums new super weapon in to the sun...a nova bomb...the bomb is inserted in the sun.... the sun goes boom... and the entire solar sistem is incinerated in a blink of an eye and with it...the entire tyranid hyve ships...one shot billions kiilled perfect weapon
well...if u the nids attacked that planet...then life would be no more...plus i guarantee the imperium would sacrifice a few....they would try to save them...but i guarantee that the sacrifice of the few overcomes the need of the manny.... and it is a good nids killer plus...u can attack enemy home worlds :D and there u save humans :)
Tyranids don't instantly kill everyone on the planet...... So the Space Marines / Imperial Guard fight to stop them. Plus Tyranids come from another Galaxy, if you wipe out one Hive Fleet then it will probs be like a pin prick in the whole vast army.
hey....don't forgeth u dont have to be an idiot and kill your planets...u can try to atract the nids at lets say some alien enemy planets...then u nova bomb the solar sistem :D and win win... i'm sure the imperium would come up with a perfect plan
Tyranids aren't idiots. And they don't leave planets half eaten, the only way you could get them away from a planet is if it has either no biomass left on it, or there is no planet.
no u didant understand me...i sayd....that the imperium could find a way to atract alll the hive fleet to some planets.... there they could esaly eb eliminated..... and they will find a way.... to atract the nids....
The point is you can't attract every hive fleet to a single system, frankly even one Hive Fleet can cover many systems. Anyway even if you were to destroy say 1 or 2 hive fleets, big whoop, god knows how many Galaxies the nids have already consumed, their hive fleets probably number in the 1000's.
Wrong, Starcraft is a direct ripoff of 40k, just like Warcraft is a direct ripoff of regular Warhammer, the main difference being that they ripped them off then disneyfied them, taking out all the mature badassness both of them had.
Blizzard was after Relic people, tyranids were not really that popular ever, unless you play the board game so rights to them would probably go to the Zerg (blizzard)
Eldar, Marines, Guard, Chaos, Tau, Necrons, S.O.B., are all to Relic though
just clearing up, btw that is all true i am not lying i looked it up on wiki and antoher site
ok is it just me? or is the cinematic's just to epic :D i mean look at it.. they should be thinking on making a movie about Dawn of War from the begining to the storys end as it is just now and if they make a movie hopp they make it in to a split movie (contain 3-4 diffrent ways to see 1 war). would not that be just awsome?
dunno why people gave you thumbs down because me and my friends have all said that since the first dawn of war intro with orks and space marines. took the words right from our mouths
Truth be told, the Zerg are a complete steal from the tyranids. Blizzard were going to make a 40K game, but GW didnt like the idea, so Blizzard just shrugged and came up with their own version.
yay the man himself is back the sm commanders r gay apart from angilos he must be some were near chapter master if hes telling the commander wat to do
For everyone who thinks that SM, or Nids originated from either Games Workshop or Blizzard needs to think again. You need to stop thinking 1980s, and start thinking 1960s.
Things like Star Ship Troopers the novel came out in 1959. A ttg called Space Marine was published in 1977.
Laserburn was made by Brian Ansell and Richard Halliwell in 1980. Ansell and Halliwell later worked for GW, introducing Power Armour. Rogue Trader used alot of canon and rules from Laserburn, tweaking it slightly.
Not true. Basically all of you have no idea what you're talking about.
The table top game called "Warhammer 40,00: Rogue Trader" originally was made known through Citadel Journal in 1986. Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader was officially released at GW's annual Games Day event in October 1987. Blizzard initially began development of StarCraft in 1995, although it wasn't released until March 31, 1998. Clearly, the arguement of which came first, 40k or StarCraft is settled.
Unfortunately, his famous voice is not. I remember playing DoW, and when he shouted "To the last man and the last round!" or "Space Marines, advance!" I really wanted to take my fork and join the fray.
If only people decided to collect other races in the 40k tt other than the Imperium of man and human races, then DOW wouldn't be so 'Human" and rather more Eldar and Tau and Necrons and you get the idea...
Well, people prefer to go with the races of mankind because they see them as heros, protecting man. Space marines specificly because they seem godly. But, seeing a more diverse culture of races that people would be playing would make the game more interesting.
I play Black Templars in 40k, however in FB I play Chaos, because I know all too well that the humans are not the righteous, good people they claim to be.
Starcraft didn't rip off Warhammer. The original Tyranids looked nothing like they do today.
It is true that Blizzard wanted to make a game with Games Workshop and that Games Workshop declined, but I don't know how true it is that Blizzard ripped them off.
I know it's hard to not be biased when dealing with games as awesome as the Warhammer universes, but if you're being biased then chances are you're no better than whomever you criticize.
Starcraft was originally a GW licensed game with BLizzard as the developer but GW backed out becasue back then Blizzard only had Warcraft to its name, they went ahead however and released SC after trying to make it unique but there were several lawsuits after its release
That's completely incorrect. Games Workshop never sued Blizzard for ANYTHING, Blizzard sued Microstar Software for making bad unauthorized addons. By Starcraft, Blizz had 19 releases, including Diablo, Warcraft 1 & 2 and The Lost Vikings. Starcraft was wholly created by Blizzard, yes it's certainly influenced by 40k (among numerous other sources, go read Starship Troopers!) but it was never going to be a 40k. There's a rumour *Warcraft* started that way, but I've found no evidence for it.
Maybe so, but the whole situation is different. The emperor is humanities only hope against chaos. In situations like these it is not difficult for a human to become a god and also the alien races threaten mankind's very existence. Comparing this to ethnical cleansings of the own race is inappropriate as for me.
Tau have no psykers so they are less vulnerable (but not totally) to Chaos. Since there are no psykers they don't have navigators so they can't traverse the Warp fully with their ships, so they sort of 'dip' towards it and out. Less risk but they can't go as far, which is why the Tau only have a small concentrated empire.
i think out of all games ive played space marines armour is awsome im a rookie at the bord game (just started) but i think humans are easier to get corrupted is beause humans brans are not strong enough to stand it and think... if some1 calls u a name u get angry or think of something evil to do so it kinda like that...i think :)
And I must say, it is EPIC. There isnt any base building like in a normal RTS. You have your commander, and your small squads of men, who stay with you throughout the game (or at least the squad leaders do). And as you play, they get experience which can be used on different upgrades. Also, utilizing cover has become very important to your strike forces survival.
and yes blizzard copied most things for warcraft and starcraft from both warhammer games
and beside warcraft was originally suppose to be a warhammer fantasy game but gw cancelled so blizzard slightly tweeked it and renamed it so yes they probaly copied 40k space marines and nids
I agree with Templarspartan, Space marines also look like a lot of other sci fi troops in games. It's not because something is similar that is copied. there is just not thousands of way to create a alien force that is numberous, primitive, fierce but can also go into space(how convenient!).
And Games Workshop borrowed ideas from Robert A. Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" (among others )published in 1959 and he took ideas and concepts from sci-fi writings from the 30's.
Pretty much everyone borrows ideas, Warhammer is certainly not an exception.
Not exactly. Nids are different and original in their concepts. Starcraft is just a complete piss-poor copycat of War40k. Get your facts straight noob.
You idiot get your facts right too!Starcraft is not a copycat.WH40k table top was released at 80s but the game for pc came at the same time as Starcraft.
Long ago, before the existent of DoW and StarCraft. Game Workshop and Blizzard work together on making a 40k game. But for some reason they broke off, and Blizzard brought along Game Workshop 40k game concept. Many people said that StarCraft took a big influence on those concept and put those in their new game call StarCraft.
Read ssImmortalss's post a few posts down. Clearly neither of them was completely original, and SC is an RTS, which has inherent differences from a TT game. Base management, for one, and the fact that you can always just pump out more units :P
You have to be able to Macro and Micro as you play, which is pretty intense and its the reason this game is STILL so popular.
And you're right too, SC is amazing, but it's 40k Blizzard style. And if what came first didn't matter, we wouldn't have laws against copyrighting and plagiarism.
Yeah, but the thing is, they aren't at all similar. The only similarity is that the Terrans look like the Space Marines, and the Zerg look like the Tyranids. The storylines are utterly and almost irreconciably different. And furthermore, Space Marines and Tyranids are (as was said below), inspired by Starship Troopers. So if the mere look of the titles has you up in arms about plagarism, then both SC and 40k should be paying royalties to Starship Troopers. Until then, just enjoy both games!
Terran Civilization..40k... 40k, you could say, is Starship troopers GW style and SC is Starship Troopers 40k and Blizzard style. You see, if someone created a new genre including lightsabers but had completely different storylines, they'd still get to the wall, right? They could change the name of the lightsaber and call it something entirely different, but everyone would still recognize the saber for what it is. You're right, we should enjoy both games, but realize that all isn't different.
lol, wh40k (the tabletop not dawn of war) is older than starship troopers and starcraft, and so is the idea of the tyranids. besides they are probably all inspired by the "alien"-saga.
Starship Troopers was written in 1959, 40k in 1987.
Also, interestingly, I just realised that GW Tyranids have also taken a little inspiration in return from Starcraft Zerg in the form of the Ravener. The Ravener (and Red Terror) were created for the Tyranid Third Edition codex, which was released in 2001 (3 years after Starcraft). What Zerg unit does it remind you of?
I'm not sure about the Starship Troopers movie but the novel of Starship Troopers was written in 1959, 40k in 1987. Wikipedia it if you don't believe me, oh unbeliever.
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Someshizzle 4 months ago
Maybe I'm wrong but can't a few hundred nukes decimate billions of tyranids?
Haldinyar 4 months ago
SPACE MARINE, INCOMING BUROCRATIC RESISTANCE!
FilosofiadiCazzeggio 11 months ago
i fucking love his voice and the way he talks
lyncho6969 1 year ago
i dont really like dawn of war 2. i mean it's ok. i give it a 6.75 i reckon
JayPin9 1 year ago
Dawn of war trynids are like halo flood........UNSTOPABLE!!!!
deathspartan209 1 year ago
only way they could make a good warhammer 40k movie if it was 100% compute animated :p
hiimgod801 1 year ago
@hiimgod801 one is coming out and it is cgi. Google ultramarines warhammer 40K movie. ;)
4N0081s 1 year ago
@4N0081s
i know that now :p
hiimgod801 1 year ago
Screw Zerg Rush, ORK RUUUUSH
DylionezDaviedez 1 year ago
LOL NO PRESSURE COMMANDER ;D
lolaroflmao 1 year ago
poisen????.....i fart on this mother*****ers and they all die XD
davian1000 2 years ago
you have to do this because ONLY THIS WILL SAVE U!!!
next sentance:
you have to do this because ONLY THIS WILL SAVE U!!!
next sentance:
you have to do this because ONLY THIS WILL SAVE U!!!
oh come on!
Shoreyoo 2 years ago 3
Well they can't just shoot a cyclonic torpedo, can they??? lol
th1nkman 2 years ago
lol, why don't they just nuke planets the tyranids will land on, they all die of radiation
why doesn't anyone use nukes anymore?
Shoreyoo 2 years ago
Because like the only way to get rid of tyranid infestation on a planet is to:
a) systematically eradicate every trace (any "spores" left over will just result in new tyranids) requiring tons of man power and hours.
or
b) destroy the planet
The Imperium has men in plenty, so they usually decide to save the planet both for "moralistic" reasons (as skewed as the Imperium's morals are) and for logistical reasons. The Imperium needs planets!!!
th1nkman 2 years ago
yeah whell nukes would poison the spores and you can come back to the planet later after a few decades, and the tyranids would be dead by then
Shoreyoo 2 years ago
Maybe, but the amount of nukes needed to purge tyranid spores would probably result in planet-wide death, anyway. They would be better off sending in Sisters of Battle as the clean-up crew.
th1nkman 2 years ago
Because we are 40k years into the future. We have battleships that can deliver holy flame from the Heavens :P
Migueria 2 years ago
yeah, but nukes would be holy fire mixed with unholy shit which slowly kills you and ruins life ;)
Shoreyoo 2 years ago
@Shoreyoo
A tactic in the past is to allow the planetary forces to fight and die to the last man which costs the Tyranids a great deal of losses in taking the planet. Then the planet is relentlessly bombed until no life remains which denies the Tyranids the ability to reclaim the Biomass lost in taking the planet. It's a questionable strategy that has proven very effective in slowing the Tyranids. The only problem is the world is lost and is an equally painful blow to the Imperium.
HowlFromBeyond 1 year ago
@HowlFromBeyond
what happened to the virus bombs from the Horus heresy era?
1R0QU012 1 year ago
Virus bombs are still used although they have been mostly replaced by cyclonic torpedoes for exterminatus. I believe the most recent use was during the second Armageddon war against the orks. The problem with virus bombs is they kill organic life but don't destroy the remains which the Tyranids could still harvest. Cyclonic torpedoes on the other hand can destroy a planet completely with less than a hand full. The Blood Raven world Cyrene was destroyed by these torpedoes and other bombs.
HowlFromBeyond 1 year ago
@virus bombs sound like a preferable alternative then, considering a world still has resources to he harvested
1R0QU012 1 year ago
@HowlFromBeyond, biomass... corpses left behind after the "firestorm", are the Tyranid also "necromorphs( see "deadspace"). DNA would be useless proteins that make up DNA would not survive the intense heat of a firestorm(as described in the Horus Heresy)...
1R0QU012 1 year ago
Not all virus bombs contain the life eater virus used on Isstvan III. While that virus does produce ignitable gasses capable of starting a planet wide firestorm there are more effective weapons that produce a similar result without waiting for a pathogen to spread. One such example is the atmospheric incinerator torpedo which ignites oxygen which also results in a apocalyptic firestorm.
HowlFromBeyond 1 year ago
@HowlFromBeyond so were gunna assume all planets atmosheres contain oxygen(i'm sure there are trace amounts everywhere but not enough to sustain spontaneous combustion in a Carbon choked world, but then again theey are capable of terraforming in the future...)? The isstvan III bombs still sound like the most effective... curious as to how those incinerators work considering oxygen is not flammable... i don't mean to be an ass i'm just dedicated to science
1R0QU012 1 year ago
I guess it works because they say it works and youre supposed to just hand wave the details because its in the future and maybe they figured out a way. I think we're also supposed to assume that any life sustaining world has oxygen in its atmosphere.
The life eater virus is still used against the Tyranids from what I understand and it is quite effective but I wouldn't be surprised if the Tyranids eventually engineer some form of immunity. However, there is no immunity to a destroyed planet.
HowlFromBeyond 1 year ago
@HowlFromBeyond i suppose that explanation works( it's the future) but present laws say, "nay!" but as you well know there are creatures that require no oxygen, Anaerobic bacteria are an example and in the deepest water covered chasms of our very own blue planet are creatures that survive on sulfur....but yes present chemical law is oxygen is not flammable, if you see chemical trucks hauling oxygen cylinders you'll notice they have a sticker that says "non flammable". but thx for humoring me :)
1R0QU012 1 year ago
cyclonic torpedoes???
they detonate the planets core don't they?
GIR780997 1 year ago
@GIR780997 no they start a chain reaction in the planets atmosphere that covers the planet in fire and burns up all the air on the planet. Or that's what I thought. anyway. Read about it in one of the warhammer 40K books. I believe it was the last book of the space wolves.
4N0081s 1 year ago
Scanners? Poison? Send in the Nightbringer and he'll get the job done in no time!
LordSerion 2 years ago
I to cała fabuła????Dżizas,alez porywająca,innowacyjna i wciągająca.
Chamber7777 2 years ago
i bought the game but it doesnt run in my lp. can anyone tell me what should i do??
magnum224trishot 2 years ago 2
Check the back of the box. Alot of games dont run on laptop chipsets.
daveescape 2 years ago
wat do you do if u were me???
magnum224trishot 2 years ago
@magnum224trishot
try an aftermarket graphics card for it. If that also fails, buy a desktop.
:(
Typically, there is little you can do.
daveescape 2 years ago
lol, i was thinkin bout it, but anywayzz, thanx fur tellin
8)
magnum224trishot 2 years ago
@magnum224trishot
buy a barbie and play outside
Joma221 2 years ago 5
give me the game let me play and get brainwashed thats how
timothysoh 2 years ago
@magnum224trishot
The specs of your laptop is in all probability not good enough to run the game. Should get a new laptop or computer.
blueskye93 2 years ago
lols, i want to but im scared that i wont have enough money to buy stuff after buying a laptop
magnum224trishot 2 years ago
The game (strategy) of the year!
JanBa010 2 years ago
it is a good game my friends has a demo of the choa's rising thing i'm not shore where he got it all i know that is it is coming out in march
narutosakura144 2 years ago
i've been playing this game since feb 09. This is my game of the year.
dashawnthl 2 years ago
where did you get the demo from?
TorchwoodOfficer565 2 years ago
steam my friend
Bibble8651 2 years ago
0:18 Rice crispies :D
Chaddledee 2 years ago 47
Nice i like that one
bananacheese2 2 years ago
@Chaddledee You mean Khorne Flakes :P
HarduntheRanger 1 year ago 9
Hey I heard this got a bad review can anyone say differently? cause if it is any good i might get it.
starshipSuperNova 2 years ago
i have the game and i think its very fun
alterdbyme 2 years ago
Scale of 1-10 what would you give it? Thnks
starshipSuperNova 2 years ago
8,5
alterdbyme 2 years ago
9 (great graphics, good music, singleplayer in 1 player mode and with 2 player co-op. Various multiplayer game types, and an expansion pack comming soon)
Nocturnox65 2 years ago
Awesome thanks
starshipSuperNova 2 years ago
its good
donaldcat 2 years ago
hey i heard DOW 2 got a bad rating ... can anyone say different before i bye it?
starshipSuperNova 2 years ago
He kept saying "only this" "only that"
jakeyjoo 2 years ago
AWESOME!!!
Gatzinkaiser 2 years ago
when does this come out
cherryg4lyf 2 years ago
uhhh, its already out
pricture 2 years ago
the golden throne of the emperium A.K.A a toilet with heated seats and basic cable! XD
fullsteelblazer 2 years ago 4
ok here's the tyranid/zerg thing: original tyranids based on Aliens, zerg then based on the 'nids, new 'nids based on zerg.
tornadomaximus 2 years ago 3
dam, must get this game
halo3killaxxx 2 years ago 2
I wouldn't say protoss are like the tau. I would say that they're more like the eldar in which they are masters of technolgy and space craft but a dying and finite people.
dt3055 2 years ago 2
i'd say Tau look like Protoss :P maybe a little revenge for Terran and Zerg looking like marines/tyrainds.
khornetto 2 years ago
The toss are modeled after the eldar.
astroaj99 2 years ago
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Seriously people... it wasn't Warhammer that Starcraft was taking things from... in fact, the two have nothing in common. Sure, Warhammer was out in the early 90s, with Starcraft coming out some time after, but Starcraft did not take anything from Warhammer 40K. Starcraft took it's thing from Aliens Vs Predator, actually.
Marine=Terran.
Predator=Protoss.
Alien=Zerg.
Lack of actual warp drive.
The creepy technological aliens have 'cone heads' and a hunter's personality.
Zerg can still eat u
4ndyM3 2 years ago
cant belive im arguing on youtube about zerg and tyranids but zerg would get demolished and you know it
kreator989 2 years ago
one problem though... the hive mind is an idiot. all those milennia of experience and it cant come up with something better than wave tactics? the zerg, on the other hand, have proven their leaders to be capable commanders. Kerrigan VS. the UED, Dominion, and a protoss strike force all at the same time (and none of those was lead by an idiot either). result? curbstomp victory. also, scourges could blast apart hive ships in droves.
deemawnlawrd 2 years ago
Within 24 hours the hive mind would have developed armor capable of withstanding the scourge attacks. The strength of the hive mind is not in its military tactics but in its ability to adapt on a moments notice. And for all those wave tactics you say are so foolish, it is only but a finger of the hive mind testing the waters those gargantuan fleets are only scouts testing the strength of resistance. besides once you conquer the milky way you get all the biomass back. Spamming troops is easiest
sacrenough 2 years ago 2
yeah ok.... tyranids come...suck the planet dry...and one space marine in a fast smalll cloacked ships rushes with the imperiums new super weapon in to the sun...a nova bomb...the bomb is inserted in the sun.... the sun goes boom... and the entire solar sistem is incinerated in a blink of an eye and with it...the entire tyranid hyve ships...one shot billions kiilled perfect weapon
man0204 2 years ago
The whole point in fighting the tyranids is to protect the planets and it's citizens. So why would they do such a suicidal thing as that?
Arkantos117 2 years ago
well...if u the nids attacked that planet...then life would be no more...plus i guarantee the imperium would sacrifice a few....they would try to save them...but i guarantee that the sacrifice of the few overcomes the need of the manny.... and it is a good nids killer plus...u can attack enemy home worlds :D and there u save humans :)
man0204 2 years ago
Tyranids don't instantly kill everyone on the planet...... So the Space Marines / Imperial Guard fight to stop them. Plus Tyranids come from another Galaxy, if you wipe out one Hive Fleet then it will probs be like a pin prick in the whole vast army.
Arkantos117 2 years ago
hey....don't forgeth u dont have to be an idiot and kill your planets...u can try to atract the nids at lets say some alien enemy planets...then u nova bomb the solar sistem :D and win win... i'm sure the imperium would come up with a perfect plan
man0204 2 years ago
Tyranids aren't idiots. And they don't leave planets half eaten, the only way you could get them away from a planet is if it has either no biomass left on it, or there is no planet.
Arkantos117 2 years ago
no u didant understand me...i sayd....that the imperium could find a way to atract alll the hive fleet to some planets.... there they could esaly eb eliminated..... and they will find a way.... to atract the nids....
man0204 2 years ago
The point is you can't attract every hive fleet to a single system, frankly even one Hive Fleet can cover many systems. Anyway even if you were to destroy say 1 or 2 hive fleets, big whoop, god knows how many Galaxies the nids have already consumed, their hive fleets probably number in the 1000's.
Arkantos117 2 years ago
don't say it cant be done...no one researched it....weel i think there is a way.... <.<
man0204 2 years ago
for the god emperor of course! :)
good point there...
Gatherkak 2 years ago
I Agree!
AolYega 2 years ago
Wrong, Starcraft is a direct ripoff of 40k, just like Warcraft is a direct ripoff of regular Warhammer, the main difference being that they ripped them off then disneyfied them, taking out all the mature badassness both of them had.
ultenth 2 years ago 5
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Blizzard was after Relic people, tyranids were not really that popular ever, unless you play the board game so rights to them would probably go to the Zerg (blizzard)
Eldar, Marines, Guard, Chaos, Tau, Necrons, S.O.B., are all to Relic though
just clearing up, btw that is all true i am not lying i looked it up on wiki and antoher site
dramageinatl 2 years ago
By Relic I think you mean Games worshop (the company that produce the table top version of 40K and owns its intellectual property)
Relic is simply linence to adapt 40k.
And just to be clear:
-Games workshop founded 1975 -Warhammer fanasty Ed1 released 1982 -Warhammer 40K Ed1 (rouge trader) released 1986
-Blizzard founded 1991 -Warcraft released 1994 -Starcraft released 1998
-Relic founded 1997 -Dawn of war 1 realeased 2004
OlaftheFlashy 2 years ago 4
the Nids were before the zerg so were the space marines before the terrens, but the protoss did come before the tau in that respect.
Fabiusbile12 2 years ago
i beat this game had my force commander lvl 20 with best terminator armor and hammer and shield and i wish it was longer
youfail2323 2 years ago
is this game out already?
kronicford 2 years ago
since about 4 months
Kornburger 2 years ago
ok is it just me? or is the cinematic's just to epic :D i mean look at it.. they should be thinking on making a movie about Dawn of War from the begining to the storys end as it is just now and if they make a movie hopp they make it in to a split movie (contain 3-4 diffrent ways to see 1 war). would not that be just awsome?
copershark 2 years ago 23
dunno why people gave you thumbs down because me and my friends have all said that since the first dawn of war intro with orks and space marines. took the words right from our mouths
blazednlovinit 2 years ago
a Warhammer Movie was done Years ago :P
colony343 2 years ago
@copershark they actually are, there is a official ultramarines website on the making of the movie
Amerimichou 1 year ago
@copershark They are making a movie. CGI one check out this site. ;)
google warhammer 40K ultramarines. Can't post links in comments.
Even a couple of big names in there.
4N0081s 1 year ago
My mistake, typo
AlexLai92 2 years ago
Tyranids are actually inspired by Geiger's Aliens and they inspired the Zarg.
AlexLai92 2 years ago
Zerg
nightshade616 2 years ago
tyranids came first starcraft is ripoff of warhammer 40k zerg= tyranids terrans= Space marines protos= tau
kelborn475 2 years ago 3
Starcraft came out before the Tau.
legolastom 2 years ago
No, protos = eldar
Gaizer666 2 years ago
Zerg
legolastom 2 years ago
tyranids were probably inspired from the original alien movie
unitelanka 2 years ago
Truth be told, the Zerg are a complete steal from the tyranids. Blizzard were going to make a 40K game, but GW didnt like the idea, so Blizzard just shrugged and came up with their own version.
Grombolin 2 years ago 13
i wonder if the imperium of man has myspace.
figure they could use the astrominicon or whatever it is, to get internet across the galaxy.
xmattyyx 2 years ago
I'm so tired of hearing this argument over 40k and starcraft they are both good games.
Impcommander 2 years ago
yay the man himself is back the sm commanders r gay apart from angilos he must be some were near chapter master if hes telling the commander wat to do
ColonelVenom88 2 years ago
For everyone who thinks that SM, or Nids originated from either Games Workshop or Blizzard needs to think again. You need to stop thinking 1980s, and start thinking 1960s.
Things like Star Ship Troopers the novel came out in 1959. A ttg called Space Marine was published in 1977.
Laserburn was made by Brian Ansell and Richard Halliwell in 1980. Ansell and Halliwell later worked for GW, introducing Power Armour. Rogue Trader used alot of canon and rules from Laserburn, tweaking it slightly.
ssImmortalss 2 years ago 3
Not true. Basically all of you have no idea what you're talking about.
The table top game called "Warhammer 40,00: Rogue Trader" originally was made known through Citadel Journal in 1986. Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader was officially released at GW's annual Games Day event in October 1987. Blizzard initially began development of StarCraft in 1995, although it wasn't released until March 31, 1998. Clearly, the arguement of which came first, 40k or StarCraft is settled.
ssImmortalss 2 years ago
omg! mr angelos is back yasssssssssss he is my hero haha
RandomViewer101 2 years ago
Unfortunately, his famous voice is not. I remember playing DoW, and when he shouted "To the last man and the last round!" or "Space Marines, advance!" I really wanted to take my fork and join the fray.
Anonymous934 2 years ago
ANGELOS IS IN DOW2! i HAVE to get this game! Angelos AND Thule, RIGHT NEAR CYRENE? Someone HAS to tell me how this works out!
foobula 2 years ago
If only people decided to collect other races in the 40k tt other than the Imperium of man and human races, then DOW wouldn't be so 'Human" and rather more Eldar and Tau and Necrons and you get the idea...
towelempire 2 years ago
Well, people prefer to go with the races of mankind because they see them as heros, protecting man. Space marines specificly because they seem godly. But, seeing a more diverse culture of races that people would be playing would make the game more interesting.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
I disagree... and donot ask y
intensenex 2 years ago
I play Black Templars in 40k, however in FB I play Chaos, because I know all too well that the humans are not the righteous, good people they claim to be.
Jelle1880 2 years ago 2
dude there are people who collect other races in the TT for example: people who collect human races also collect eldar or tau or necron
keyter10 2 years ago
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Ohhhhh oh, "bureaucratic resistance"; now hold on a sec, you got do politics in this game? Wonder if the Bugs have hearings and elections? LOL
HalfBreedMix 2 years ago
That's the point noob. Space Marines operate completely autonomous. And planetary governors are corrupt as shit.
JoartCC 2 years ago
Yeah yeah, I know, I was just joking, shhheesh.
BTW, I've been into WH40K since the first box-set came out; so please watch the "noob" talk.
HalfBreedMix 2 years ago
0:49 is IG？
q40604 2 years ago
What!? Gabriel Angelos at 1:35!? He doesn't sound the same but nevertheless a welcome return :)
Damocles178 2 years ago
Starcraft didn't rip off Warhammer. The original Tyranids looked nothing like they do today.
It is true that Blizzard wanted to make a game with Games Workshop and that Games Workshop declined, but I don't know how true it is that Blizzard ripped them off.
I know it's hard to not be biased when dealing with games as awesome as the Warhammer universes, but if you're being biased then chances are you're no better than whomever you criticize.
risbolla 2 years ago
Starcraft was originally a GW licensed game with BLizzard as the developer but GW backed out becasue back then Blizzard only had Warcraft to its name, they went ahead however and released SC after trying to make it unique but there were several lawsuits after its release
Aderath 2 years ago
That's completely incorrect. Games Workshop never sued Blizzard for ANYTHING, Blizzard sued Microstar Software for making bad unauthorized addons. By Starcraft, Blizz had 19 releases, including Diablo, Warcraft 1 & 2 and The Lost Vikings. Starcraft was wholly created by Blizzard, yes it's certainly influenced by 40k (among numerous other sources, go read Starship Troopers!) but it was never going to be a 40k. There's a rumour *Warcraft* started that way, but I've found no evidence for it.
noobule 2 years ago
the voice actor sounds like a kroot from Dawn of war 1
bloodknight1996 2 years ago
I love Warhammer and Warhammer 40k, but I haven't played the game yet. My friend played it and it seems good. :D
mycath0choco0craz 2 years ago
I'm getting this next week and i can't wait.
I'm happy to see captain Angelos again (who isn't?)
lorcan0c 2 years ago
doesnt seem like the same voice actor though :(
Kallosar 2 years ago
if you read the DOW books you learn gabriel is an unsanctioned psyker and a heretic who allows mutant initiates into the chapter. he should be purged
robotcornholio92 2 years ago
Oh great... But, I'm sure he has reasons. (I'm reading the 2nd book right now).
I mean, not everyone in the imperium is a brainwashed nazi.
Sad to say that when you think about it, and compare Hitlers Nazi Germany to the Imperium of 40K... Alot of their beliefs are the same.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
Not really.
mjolnir112 2 years ago
Maybe so, but the whole situation is different. The emperor is humanities only hope against chaos. In situations like these it is not difficult for a human to become a god and also the alien races threaten mankind's very existence. Comparing this to ethnical cleansings of the own race is inappropriate as for me.
Tormentor 2 years ago
yeah...after the heresy..it looked like the Imperium had a major changover in believes..
shuffledout 2 years ago
voices only change during puberty... how many times do space marines go through that........
monkeywithplutonium 2 years ago 2
Not true.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
His voice must be lost from all the battle cries he has shouted. XD
TechCrobeQX 2 years ago
You're right, this isn't the same voice actor for Gabriel from DOW1, why did they change him?
FFS, the guy voiced Optimus Prime!
badpeq 2 years ago
Maybe because this games story takes place many many years after the first of the Dawn of War series.
He's older, and his voice has changed over time. As would your own.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
what eveer happened to gabriel he was awesome
dramageinatl 2 years ago
that is seriously not the voice of gabriel angelos... wth happened.
monkeywithplutonium 2 years ago
Tau have no psykers so they are less vulnerable (but not totally) to Chaos. Since there are no psykers they don't have navigators so they can't traverse the Warp fully with their ships, so they sort of 'dip' towards it and out. Less risk but they can't go as far, which is why the Tau only have a small concentrated empire.
mjolnir112 2 years ago
As far as is known, the Tau like to keep out of Warp space, after it was designated "unsafe" by the Air Caste.
wreynolds95 2 years ago
Im getting this tomorrow...look forward to playing!
diablolrm90 2 years ago 4
good luck getting it to work, ive been trying for a day now and its not working =l
godoftwinkies 2 years ago
i think out of all games ive played space marines armour is awsome im a rookie at the bord game (just started) but i think humans are easier to get corrupted is beause humans brans are not strong enough to stand it and think... if some1 calls u a name u get angry or think of something evil to do so it kinda like that...i think :)
sims2besteva 2 years ago
THIS GAME ISNT OUT IN MALAYSIA YET!
im missing the fun!..
so how was it like? pure RTS?
runefan213 2 years ago
I've played it at the local gaming club.
And I must say, it is EPIC. There isnt any base building like in a normal RTS. You have your commander, and your small squads of men, who stay with you throughout the game (or at least the squad leaders do). And as you play, they get experience which can be used on different upgrades. Also, utilizing cover has become very important to your strike forces survival.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
and yes blizzard copied most things for warcraft and starcraft from both warhammer games
and beside warcraft was originally suppose to be a warhammer fantasy game but gw cancelled so blizzard slightly tweeked it and renamed it so yes they probaly copied 40k space marines and nids
LordCHull 2 years ago
I dont want to say that the makers of Starcraft copied from Warhammer.
But, in the end, Warhammer 40K DID come FIRST.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
dam noblemen of meridian their so stubborn and greedy they dont even reliase theres already millions of tyranids on their planet
LordCHull 2 years ago
nice they brought gabriel angelos bk :D
sitoa 2 years ago
Blizzard ripped the idea of the Zerg from Warhammer's "Tyranids"
shaji20 2 years ago 3
I think it's safe to say starcraft and dawn of war are 2 different games with two different stories
Templarspartan 2 years ago 2
I agree with Templarspartan, Space marines also look like a lot of other sci fi troops in games. It's not because something is similar that is copied. there is just not thousands of way to create a alien force that is numberous, primitive, fierce but can also go into space(how convenient!).
paulorochetto 2 years ago
woah he aliens looks like zergs from starcraft
kuvhlubkoj98 2 years ago
Yet Starcraft was created years after Warhammer.
BlackTemplarFilms 2 years ago
Other way around actually, Zerg looks like Tyranids. Warhammer 40k was out way before starcraft.
cncinwow 2 years ago
Next Expansion, Imperial Guards and Necrons! Oh yeah! Oh, and I suppose Chaos as well.
rotnem07825 2 years ago
well the 'nids do have a 'Brain Bug' the seldom seen norn Queens they reside on the hive ships the hive tyrants are only the generals
briam30 2 years ago
this game seems ODDLY enough like starcraft.
btw, the guy doing the your mom joke probably wasnt being too serious...
sabatocrab 2 years ago
Probably because Blizzard borrowed ideas from Games Workshop years ago. Warhammer 40k has been around for about 2 decades, well before Starcraft...
rizalcash 2 years ago 5
And Games Workshop borrowed ideas from Robert A. Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" (among others )published in 1959 and he took ideas and concepts from sci-fi writings from the 30's.
Pretty much everyone borrows ideas, Warhammer is certainly not an exception.
Jaxmegaherz 2 years ago
Not exactly. Nids are different and original in their concepts. Starcraft is just a complete piss-poor copycat of War40k. Get your facts straight noob.
JoartCC 2 years ago
Piss poor copycat? I'd like to say they did a pretty damn fine job copying 40k, thank you very much.
russianguyovich22 2 years ago
You idiot get your facts right too!Starcraft is not a copycat.WH40k table top was released at 80s but the game for pc came at the same time as Starcraft.
NobScamer 2 years ago
You don't even know the whole story behind it.
Long ago, before the existent of DoW and StarCraft. Game Workshop and Blizzard work together on making a 40k game. But for some reason they broke off, and Blizzard brought along Game Workshop 40k game concept. Many people said that StarCraft took a big influence on those concept and put those in their new game call StarCraft.
akira357 2 years ago
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Starcraft is a fucking amazing game, get real kid, like it matters which one came out first..
nontiogloc 2 years ago
SUre Star is a good game. But it's still a piss poor copycat of Warhammer. Now if you can't stomach that reality then stfu noob.
JoartCC 2 years ago 3
Read ssImmortalss's post a few posts down. Clearly neither of them was completely original, and SC is an RTS, which has inherent differences from a TT game. Base management, for one, and the fact that you can always just pump out more units :P
You have to be able to Macro and Micro as you play, which is pretty intense and its the reason this game is STILL so popular.
nontiogloc 2 years ago
And you're right too, SC is amazing, but it's 40k Blizzard style. And if what came first didn't matter, we wouldn't have laws against copyrighting and plagiarism.
DeltaSquad451 2 years ago
Yeah, but the thing is, they aren't at all similar. The only similarity is that the Terrans look like the Space Marines, and the Zerg look like the Tyranids. The storylines are utterly and almost irreconciably different. And furthermore, Space Marines and Tyranids are (as was said below), inspired by Starship Troopers. So if the mere look of the titles has you up in arms about plagarism, then both SC and 40k should be paying royalties to Starship Troopers. Until then, just enjoy both games!
Pewpewlas3rgun 2 years ago
^^^^^^^^^ What he said.
Zanzubar502 2 years ago
Terran Civilization..40k... 40k, you could say, is Starship troopers GW style and SC is Starship Troopers 40k and Blizzard style. You see, if someone created a new genre including lightsabers but had completely different storylines, they'd still get to the wall, right? They could change the name of the lightsaber and call it something entirely different, but everyone would still recognize the saber for what it is. You're right, we should enjoy both games, but realize that all isn't different.
DeltaSquad451 2 years ago
lol, wh40k (the tabletop not dawn of war) is older than starship troopers and starcraft, and so is the idea of the tyranids. besides they are probably all inspired by the "alien"-saga.
AntiNova6 2 years ago
Starship Troopers was written in 1959, 40k in 1987.
Also, interestingly, I just realised that GW Tyranids have also taken a little inspiration in return from Starcraft Zerg in the form of the Ravener. The Ravener (and Red Terror) were created for the Tyranid Third Edition codex, which was released in 2001 (3 years after Starcraft). What Zerg unit does it remind you of?
Pewpewlas3rgun 2 years ago
are you kidding warhammer was made way before starship troopers and starcraft
PutNameHere15 2 years ago 3
I'm not sure about the Starship Troopers movie but the novel of Starship Troopers was written in 1959, 40k in 1987. Wikipedia it if you don't believe me, oh unbeliever.
Pewpewlas3rgun 2 years ago