..people like these.. oh, I know how they'll take it, but I'll say it anyway- they need to just die, go away, and stay gone forever and never be repeated.
They put so much pressure, guilt, shame, anger, and bullying out and sit there and smile and feel proud of themselves for the way they bias, lie, and hypocrisize about things. If ONE pro-choice makes a mistake, then ALL of them the babies, are uneducated, ect-
..but I've yet to meet a single pro'life'- LITERALLY out of, what, HUNDREDS?- -c
-c that HASN'T lied to me, straight to my face- about either medical facts, their own religion, about law, about logic, about biology, or gotten mad and resorted to insults, accusations,a nd petty little jibes of 'deep down you know its wrong'.
NONE of them have an ounce of credibility, or independence- they just repeat the same mantras, get mad when called out for lying or playing word/context games, then turn around and repeat actions with different people- they can't evolve or be honest.
Pro-life mind your own business!! Pro-life makes me sick,always sticking their noses in where it doesn't belong.Worry about your own family and never mind what others are doing,its none of your business!
Newborn babies don't have thoughts, feelings, emotions, consciousness or the ability to be self-reliant. Are you saying that this makes them sub-human as well?
I believe that in a more evolved society the option of abortion would not be necessary due to improved socio-economic conditions that allow women and couples to be more conscious about their sexual practices to better plan their parenthood. I also believe that we as socialist/communist should have the sensitivity to not delve ourselves into frivolous arguments that question our own human dignity and integrity.
This is an issue for which I find the arguments to be very disturbing and off-putting, particularly those coming from the left. I consider myself pro-choice, but have found the left/liberal arguments to be very frivolous for my taste. I consider abortion to be morally wrong, but agree that given some socio-economic circumstances it is the most proper choice a woman can make, and I believe that the right to make that choice belongs to her.
"Defend Planned Parenthood". Take a look at what Planned Parenthood does to unborn babies who can't "defend" themselves: Center for Bio-Ethical Reform website.
many of the people at the rally there were there only to pray for the buliding,all the women who enter it and anyone considering abortion.
If it can be argued that a cluster of cells isnt a baby,when does it turn into a baby?
what about the third floor of the center that is for late term abortions? fetus' with hands and feet and faces? Are those also not yet children and still not human?
sure, in the sense that they are produced by humans and have the potential to become human beings, but that does not make them medically human beings. They don't have thoughts, feelings, emotions, consciousness, or the ability to self-sustain outside the woman's body.
@2000yrCatholic ha ha! You really need to look around you.CPS and Adoption Agencies are doing the same thing as your so called evil planned parenthood (you hate so much),making off other people's unwanted children at $40,000.00 (adoption fee)a head.You don't object to that, now do you?I see how you pro-lifers are supplying CPS and Adoption Agencies with more babies to sell to rich folks and making CPS and Adoption Agencies more richer then they already are. Should be ashamed of your self.
fetuses aren't babies. what about the women who die from lack of access to abortion? what about people like George Tiller who that pro-life movement has murdered? "pro-life" is a lie.
Sad how these people are so pro-life... but "somehow" an abortion doctor gets gunned down. Pro-life, my fat ass.
If they're going to convince anybody that abortion is bad, these crazy rallies/harrasments should be tuned down a little bit. If a patient is going to one of these clinics and sees the signs, do you honestly think she'll change her mind? Seriously.... This is pathetic.
The author of this video calls the anti-abortion group "anti-choice activists". Okay. Finish the euphenism, "I am pro-choice", that the "pro-choicers" use. That truthful completion would be "I am pro-choice to kill the unborn baby for socio-economic reasons." Examine the "choice to kill" euphenism, and the "anti-choice" label sounds like a compliment.
@kweer58 Sure, it sounds like a compliment if you set it up with that strawman argument, but it's just that, a strawman argument. A fetus isn't a baby, it doesn't have thoughts, feelings, or emotions, and your whole argument falls apart without that.
This is the question of whether women have the right to decide when or if they want to have children. If you guys were really against the "killing of 'babies'" then you would be supporting birth control. But the same groups oppose that.
This is what is called a circular argument, you should look them up. You say "you're killing a baby!" We point out that medically and scientifically it isn't actually a baby, and the overwhelming abortions take place at a period when it is less sophisticated than a fly, and then you turn around and say "BUT YOU'RE KILLING A BABY!"
How long do you want to go around in this circle, fool?
Words have meaning, and we are responsible for the words we use. When you say "I am pro-choice", finish your sentence honestly. The "choice" you advocate kills the unborn baby. So complete your sentence: "I am pro-choice to kill the unborn baby for socio-economic reasons." Remember always that the "choice" you are advocating is the "choice to kill".
circle circle circle argument! You're beginning to bore me. A fetus isn't a baby.
We support the right of women to control their own bodies and decide whether or not they want to bear children. Women are not incubators, and a cluster of cells isn't a baby.
watch 3:51 talking about democracy and I watched you interview the girl at the end this is what anti-life advacates preach yet it has no substance because it's merely bs and can be defended with Facts and reality. Instead of Arguing your opion share facts vut you wont you will just call me dirty names and say you people this and that but thats about it
..people like these.. oh, I know how they'll take it, but I'll say it anyway- they need to just die, go away, and stay gone forever and never be repeated.
They put so much pressure, guilt, shame, anger, and bullying out and sit there and smile and feel proud of themselves for the way they bias, lie, and hypocrisize about things. If ONE pro-choice makes a mistake, then ALL of them the babies, are uneducated, ect-
..but I've yet to meet a single pro'life'- LITERALLY out of, what, HUNDREDS?- -c
ryddelwearsahat 1 month ago
-c that HASN'T lied to me, straight to my face- about either medical facts, their own religion, about law, about logic, about biology, or gotten mad and resorted to insults, accusations,a nd petty little jibes of 'deep down you know its wrong'.
NONE of them have an ounce of credibility, or independence- they just repeat the same mantras, get mad when called out for lying or playing word/context games, then turn around and repeat actions with different people- they can't evolve or be honest.
ryddelwearsahat 1 month ago
Pro Choice!
ndrthrdr1 1 month ago
Pro-life mind your own business!! Pro-life makes me sick,always sticking their noses in where it doesn't belong.Worry about your own family and never mind what others are doing,its none of your business!
ashatbulaparanormal 1 year ago 2
Newborn babies don't have thoughts, feelings, emotions, consciousness or the ability to be self-reliant. Are you saying that this makes them sub-human as well?
DarthConnis9999 1 year ago
I believe that in a more evolved society the option of abortion would not be necessary due to improved socio-economic conditions that allow women and couples to be more conscious about their sexual practices to better plan their parenthood. I also believe that we as socialist/communist should have the sensitivity to not delve ourselves into frivolous arguments that question our own human dignity and integrity.
alanlujan91 1 year ago
@alanlujan91 Freedom is never present in a communist state, unless you're a commissar or a member of a "special" political group.
DarthConnis9999 1 year ago
This is an issue for which I find the arguments to be very disturbing and off-putting, particularly those coming from the left. I consider myself pro-choice, but have found the left/liberal arguments to be very frivolous for my taste. I consider abortion to be morally wrong, but agree that given some socio-economic circumstances it is the most proper choice a woman can make, and I believe that the right to make that choice belongs to her.
alanlujan91 1 year ago
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"Defend Planned Parenthood".
Now look at what Planned Parenthood does to unborn human infants who can't "defend" themselves: Center for Bio-Ethical Reform website.
mzpmrrs76 2 years ago
"Defend Planned Parenthood". Take a look at what Planned Parenthood does to unborn babies who can't "defend" themselves: Center for Bio-Ethical Reform website.
mzpmrrs76 2 years ago
I was there :)
ComparedFreak 2 years ago
many of the people at the rally there were there only to pray for the buliding,all the women who enter it and anyone considering abortion.
If it can be argued that a cluster of cells isnt a baby,when does it turn into a baby?
what about the third floor of the center that is for late term abortions? fetus' with hands and feet and faces? Are those also not yet children and still not human?
MandiGetsCrunkTM 2 years ago 2
Check this video:
"Legal Abortion: Essential for a Free Society"
ChannelATA 2 years ago
i was at that rally. there was between 10 and 12 thousand protesting aginst the center. that's all i have to say... Chose LIFE!!!
Butterfly19961 2 years ago
sure, in the sense that they are produced by humans and have the potential to become human beings, but that does not make them medically human beings. They don't have thoughts, feelings, emotions, consciousness, or the ability to self-sustain outside the woman's body.
ericribellarsi 2 years ago 2
DEFUND planned parenthood.
THIS IS AN EVIL PLACE THAT SACRIFICES
CHILDREN TO THE DEVIL FOR MONEY.
BLOOD MONEY!
REPENT FOR INNOCENT BLOOD IS
ON YOUR HANDS.
2000yrCatholic 2 years ago
hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
ericribellarsi 2 years ago
@2000yrCatholic ha ha! You really need to look around you.CPS and Adoption Agencies are doing the same thing as your so called evil planned parenthood (you hate so much),making off other people's unwanted children at $40,000.00 (adoption fee)a head.You don't object to that, now do you?I see how you pro-lifers are supplying CPS and Adoption Agencies with more babies to sell to rich folks and making CPS and Adoption Agencies more richer then they already are. Should be ashamed of your self.
ashatbulaparanormal 1 year ago
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mzpmrrs76 2 years ago
fetuses aren't babies. what about the women who die from lack of access to abortion? what about people like George Tiller who that pro-life movement has murdered? "pro-life" is a lie.
ericribellarsi 2 years ago
Are fetuses human though?
DarthHideous101 2 years ago
Sad how these people are so pro-life... but "somehow" an abortion doctor gets gunned down. Pro-life, my fat ass.
If they're going to convince anybody that abortion is bad, these crazy rallies/harrasments should be tuned down a little bit. If a patient is going to one of these clinics and sees the signs, do you honestly think she'll change her mind? Seriously.... This is pathetic.
vajboi97 2 years ago
Religious morons need to get some better tape... I can kind of hear their idiocy through it.
:(
za7ch 2 years ago
The author of this video calls the anti-abortion group "anti-choice activists". Okay. Finish the euphenism, "I am pro-choice", that the "pro-choicers" use. That truthful completion would be "I am pro-choice to kill the unborn baby for socio-economic reasons." Examine the "choice to kill" euphenism, and the "anti-choice" label sounds like a compliment.
kweer58 2 years ago
@kweer58 Sure, it sounds like a compliment if you set it up with that strawman argument, but it's just that, a strawman argument. A fetus isn't a baby, it doesn't have thoughts, feelings, or emotions, and your whole argument falls apart without that.
This is the question of whether women have the right to decide when or if they want to have children. If you guys were really against the "killing of 'babies'" then you would be supporting birth control. But the same groups oppose that.
ericribellarsi 2 years ago
You are "pro-choice" to crush (slice or otherwise dismember) an unanethesized unborn baby to death. That is the "choice" you are advocating.
kweer58 2 years ago
@kweer58
This is what is called a circular argument, you should look them up. You say "you're killing a baby!" We point out that medically and scientifically it isn't actually a baby, and the overwhelming abortions take place at a period when it is less sophisticated than a fly, and then you turn around and say "BUT YOU'RE KILLING A BABY!"
How long do you want to go around in this circle, fool?
ericribellarsi 2 years ago
Words have meaning, and we are responsible for the words we use. When you say "I am pro-choice", finish your sentence honestly. The "choice" you advocate kills the unborn baby. So complete your sentence: "I am pro-choice to kill the unborn baby for socio-economic reasons." Remember always that the "choice" you are advocating is the "choice to kill".
kweer58 2 years ago
circle circle circle argument! You're beginning to bore me. A fetus isn't a baby.
We support the right of women to control their own bodies and decide whether or not they want to bear children. Women are not incubators, and a cluster of cells isn't a baby.
ericribellarsi 2 years ago
You are pro-choice to kill.
kweer58 2 years ago
watch 3:51 talking about democracy and I watched you interview the girl at the end this is what anti-life advacates preach yet it has no substance because it's merely bs and can be defended with Facts and reality. Instead of Arguing your opion share facts vut you wont you will just call me dirty names and say you people this and that but thats about it
bryanguy1 2 years ago